[nysbirds-l] Townsend's Solitaire (North Fork, LI)

2017-01-06 Thread Aaron Virgin
I had the great fortune to encounter a TOWNSEND'S SOLITAIRE while birding
this afternoon (1/6/17). At approximately 2:00 the bird flew in front of my
car and dove into a cedar tree along North Sea Road, Southold, NY. It was
observed gleaning snow and cedar berries on both sides of the road, but
mainly stuck around *1625 North Sea Road *(bright blue house). The
Solitaire was very inconspicuous feeding atop the cedars and perching on
nearby utility lines.  A quick call to Steve Biasetti and he was also able
to view the bird as well.

Precise location:  41.075570, -72.451931

Good winter birding!
Aaron Virgin

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[nysbirds-l] Townsend's Solitaire (North Fork, LI)

2017-01-06 Thread Aaron Virgin
I had the great fortune to encounter a TOWNSEND'S SOLITAIRE while birding
this afternoon (1/6/17). At approximately 2:00 the bird flew in front of my
car and dove into a cedar tree along North Sea Road, Southold, NY. It was
observed gleaning snow and cedar berries on both sides of the road, but
mainly stuck around *1625 North Sea Road *(bright blue house). The
Solitaire was very inconspicuous feeding atop the cedars and perching on
nearby utility lines.  A quick call to Steve Biasetti and he was also able
to view the bird as well.

Precise location:  41.075570, -72.451931

Good winter birding!
Aaron Virgin

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Any updates on EPCAL access?

2016-08-09 Thread Aaron Virgin
Michael, Luke and NYS Birders:

Thank you for bringing up EPCAL on the NYS List.  We at the Group share
your frustration and bewilderment with some of the inconsistent messaging
coming from members of Riverhead Town Council and the Riverhead Town Police
Department. For the past few months we have maintained a positive dialogue
with Sean Walter, Riverhead Town Supervisor, regarding total preservation
of the grasslands, runways and some neighboring areas at EPCAL. The main
issue here is (grasslands) management, which the Town has not taken the
initiative to do to date.  If you have visited lately you will notice the
pitch pine encroaching into the grassland habitat due to a lack of mowing
during the past decade.  To his credit, Supervisor Walter has publicly
declared for several years that he wanted a "group", such as an NGO, to
manage the grasslands portion, however to his discredit there has never
been a formal announcement, aka request for proposals, seeking such
assistance. He has also been against there NYS DEC having very much
involvement in management ... until very recently.

In May, leadership from Group for the East End and Eastern Long Island
Audubon Society (ELIAS) had a very productive meeting with senior DEC
Region 1 staff and NYS Senate and Assembly members and staff to develop a
longterm grasslands/wildlife management solution. We are using the
Shawangunk Grasslands NWR as a model since there are many similarities.
Funding is the key and we are working on a few sources to make this a
reality.  However, this will not solve the access problem immediately.

*At this point the best thing anyone on this list can do is contact the
Riverhead Town Council.*  Below are the emails for each, except Supervisor
Walter who has a slight aversion to email.  He may take your call if you
wish to speak with him and if you do please let him and each council member
know that EPCAL is a vital resource for wildlife year-round and an
important destination for birders, wildlife photographers, and nature
enthusiasts in general.  Remind them that we visit their delis, farm
stands, buy gas, etc.  From my experience, government officials take a
surge of phone calls and emails very seriously and often base their
decisions on feedback from not only their electorate but those making the
most noise.

Sean Walter - call: (631) 727-3200 x251 (email is not a viable option)
John Dunleavy - dunle...@townofriverheadny.gov
James Wooten - woo...@townofriverheadny.gov
Jodi Giglio - gig...@townofriverheadny.gov
Tim Hubbard - hubb...@townofriverheadny.gov

If you would like additional info or ways to get more involved in EPCAL,
kindly email me directly.  Thank you.

Best regards,
Aaron


*Aaron Virgin*
Vice President | Group for the East End
Office: 631-765-6450 x218
Mobile: 631-377-1303
Email: acvir...@eastendenvironment.org <jhartna...@eastendenvironment.org> |
Web: www.GroupfortheEastEnd.org <http://www.groupfortheeastend.org/>

*Protecting the nature of the place **you love*


On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 12:24 PM, <leorm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Michael,
>
> Thanks for raising the issue again. I had hoped to make progress, but
> sadly Sean Walters won re-election and continues his absurd (and silly)
> stance.
>
> The good news is, from what I understand, Supervisor Walters and
> Councilwoman Giglio are getting along well lately and Councilwoman Giglio
> can be an asset to our "plight". I have spoken to her many times about
> EPCAL and bird watching, she understands that people really enjoy it and
> she drives through there very often.
>
> The last communications I had were essentially "going in the runway is
> trespassing, we have no official policy, it's the only way to prevent drag
> racing etc etc".
>
> Obviously, that is all BS. There are many ideas I raised that received no
> response. They apparently issued a one day access to ELIAS for their CBC
> and would "consider" granting special access on an extremely limited basis.
>
> At this point, I think the best course of action is to get one (or
> several) organizations to go in on a joint letter, electronically signed by
> everyone from this list who is willing, and submit it to the Board at a
> public hearing. We should ask for access, for clarification on the rules,
> for the reasons these rules exist, etc.
>
> I know Group for the East End is supportive of public access, as is ELIAS
> and I bet many more organizations.
>
> It's easy for the Supervisor to ignore a handful of people here and there.
> But a concerted effort would be difficult to brush aside - especially if
> combined with Newsday / News 12 articles and stories. They hate any bad
> press about their beloved EPCAL.
>
>
>
> On Aug 9, 2016, at 12:08 PM, Michael Schrimpf <michael.schri...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Has anyone heard anything 

Re: [nysbirds-l] Any updates on EPCAL access?

2016-08-09 Thread Aaron Virgin
Michael, Luke and NYS Birders:

Thank you for bringing up EPCAL on the NYS List.  We at the Group share
your frustration and bewilderment with some of the inconsistent messaging
coming from members of Riverhead Town Council and the Riverhead Town Police
Department. For the past few months we have maintained a positive dialogue
with Sean Walter, Riverhead Town Supervisor, regarding total preservation
of the grasslands, runways and some neighboring areas at EPCAL. The main
issue here is (grasslands) management, which the Town has not taken the
initiative to do to date.  If you have visited lately you will notice the
pitch pine encroaching into the grassland habitat due to a lack of mowing
during the past decade.  To his credit, Supervisor Walter has publicly
declared for several years that he wanted a "group", such as an NGO, to
manage the grasslands portion, however to his discredit there has never
been a formal announcement, aka request for proposals, seeking such
assistance. He has also been against there NYS DEC having very much
involvement in management ... until very recently.

In May, leadership from Group for the East End and Eastern Long Island
Audubon Society (ELIAS) had a very productive meeting with senior DEC
Region 1 staff and NYS Senate and Assembly members and staff to develop a
longterm grasslands/wildlife management solution. We are using the
Shawangunk Grasslands NWR as a model since there are many similarities.
Funding is the key and we are working on a few sources to make this a
reality.  However, this will not solve the access problem immediately.

*At this point the best thing anyone on this list can do is contact the
Riverhead Town Council.*  Below are the emails for each, except Supervisor
Walter who has a slight aversion to email.  He may take your call if you
wish to speak with him and if you do please let him and each council member
know that EPCAL is a vital resource for wildlife year-round and an
important destination for birders, wildlife photographers, and nature
enthusiasts in general.  Remind them that we visit their delis, farm
stands, buy gas, etc.  From my experience, government officials take a
surge of phone calls and emails very seriously and often base their
decisions on feedback from not only their electorate but those making the
most noise.

Sean Walter - call: (631) 727-3200 x251 (email is not a viable option)
John Dunleavy - dunle...@townofriverheadny.gov
James Wooten - woo...@townofriverheadny.gov
Jodi Giglio - gig...@townofriverheadny.gov
Tim Hubbard - hubb...@townofriverheadny.gov

If you would like additional info or ways to get more involved in EPCAL,
kindly email me directly.  Thank you.

Best regards,
Aaron


*Aaron Virgin*
Vice President | Group for the East End
Office: 631-765-6450 x218
Mobile: 631-377-1303
Email: acvir...@eastendenvironment.org  |
Web: www.GroupfortheEastEnd.org <http://www.groupfortheeastend.org/>

*Protecting the nature of the place **you love*


On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 12:24 PM,  wrote:

> Michael,
>
> Thanks for raising the issue again. I had hoped to make progress, but
> sadly Sean Walters won re-election and continues his absurd (and silly)
> stance.
>
> The good news is, from what I understand, Supervisor Walters and
> Councilwoman Giglio are getting along well lately and Councilwoman Giglio
> can be an asset to our "plight". I have spoken to her many times about
> EPCAL and bird watching, she understands that people really enjoy it and
> she drives through there very often.
>
> The last communications I had were essentially "going in the runway is
> trespassing, we have no official policy, it's the only way to prevent drag
> racing etc etc".
>
> Obviously, that is all BS. There are many ideas I raised that received no
> response. They apparently issued a one day access to ELIAS for their CBC
> and would "consider" granting special access on an extremely limited basis.
>
> At this point, I think the best course of action is to get one (or
> several) organizations to go in on a joint letter, electronically signed by
> everyone from this list who is willing, and submit it to the Board at a
> public hearing. We should ask for access, for clarification on the rules,
> for the reasons these rules exist, etc.
>
> I know Group for the East End is supportive of public access, as is ELIAS
> and I bet many more organizations.
>
> It's easy for the Supervisor to ignore a handful of people here and there.
> But a concerted effort would be difficult to brush aside - especially if
> combined with Newsday / News 12 articles and stories. They hate any bad
> press about their beloved EPCAL.
>
>
>
> On Aug 9, 2016, at 12:08 PM, Michael Schrimpf 
> wrote:
>
> Has anyone heard anything recently from the Town of Riverhead about access
> to the abandoned runway at EPCAL?
>
> I 

Re: [nysbirds-l] Red-necked Phalarope - Dune Rd., Hampton Bays (Suffolk)

2013-04-22 Thread Aaron Virgin
Dave Means and I just had the Red-necked Phalarope bayside, opposite Road L as 
previously described in previous posts. Striking little bird. Good luck if you 
go.

Aaron Virgin
Westhampton, NY

On Apr 21, 2013, at 2:42 PM, Angus Wilson  wrote:

> Correction: some confusion about roads off Dune Rd. Phalarope is working 
> along shoreline on bayside opposite the real Road L (sign, which is on 
> oceanside of Dune Rd). This is west of the first road that looks out onto the 
> island with the large BC Night-Heron nesting colony.
> 
> Angus Wilson & Mike Cooper
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Red-necked Phalarope - Dune Rd., Hampton Bays (Suffolk)

2013-04-22 Thread Aaron Virgin
Dave Means and I just had the Red-necked Phalarope bayside, opposite Road L as 
previously described in previous posts. Striking little bird. Good luck if you 
go.

Aaron Virgin
Westhampton, NY

On Apr 21, 2013, at 2:42 PM, Angus Wilson oceanwander...@gmail.com wrote:

 Correction: some confusion about roads off Dune Rd. Phalarope is working 
 along shoreline on bayside opposite the real Road L (sign, which is on 
 oceanside of Dune Rd). This is west of the first road that looks out onto the 
 island with the large BC Night-Heron nesting colony.
 
 Angus Wilson  Mike Cooper
 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] RFI: Riverhead Unusual Sandpiper

2012-09-06 Thread Aaron Virgin
A few others have shown interest about this sighting offline, so here are
some more details. *First, by no means am I calling this a Spoon-billed
Sandpiper*. When initially compared to other sandpipers in the vicinity
(notably a single White-rumped and two Baird's), the size (smaller than
both sandpipers, smaller than the Semi-palmated Plovers it was grouped
with), plumage (resembling a juvenile sandpiper based on scaly upperparts),
facial markings (an eye/ear patch more distinct than Baird's and
White-rumped), and leg color (dark), as well as the unusually shaped bill,
all pointed towards a sandpiper *resembling* a Spoon-billed. However, I
(and others) noticed the bill did not appear as "spatulate" when viewed
head on, rather it appeared rounded from the sides. In addition, the bill
seemed to broaden closer to the head than what is shown in books and online
for a Spoon-billed Sandpiper. The feeding habit was typical of
"grass-pipers" and yes, the habitat threw me and others if considering
Spoon-billed, but this side of the world seems like an odd fit in general.
Another possibility is so type of hybrid, e.g. Baird's and Semipalmated
SPs, but again the color and shape of the bill do not fit, and it is pure
speculation. A few birders took some pics and may post links to the list
later and hopefully a healthy discussion will follow.

Best regards,

Aaron Virgin
Westhampton, NY


On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Peter Scully
wrote:

> Can anyone provide a little more information on this bird?  Description of
> the "odd bill shape"?   Grass-piper habitat seems an odd fit for
> Spoon-billed, no?
> Thanks!
>
> Peter
>
>
> --- On *Thu, 9/6/12, Aaron Virgin * wrote:
>
>
> From: Aaron Virgin 
> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] 16 Buff-breasted Sandpipers, 2 Baird's ++,
> Riverhead, Sound Ave.
> To: "Derek Rogers" 
> Cc: "NY Bird List" 
> Date: Thursday, September 6, 2012, 2:31 PM
>
> A highly unusual juvenile sandpiper species is currently being viewed at
> this location by MOB. The closest fit is SPOONBILLED SANDPIPER based on the
> odd bill shape, however the color of the bill is not entirely black. The
> chances of it being this species is beyond incredibly rare, but a
> definitive ID is still open for debate. Some pics are being taken but more
> are welcome to help nail this one down. First observed at 11:40 and still
> being seen by about 15 birders at the same location Derek referenced
> earlier. Good luck if you go.
>
> Aaron Virgin
>
> On Sep 6, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Derek Rogers 
> http://us.mc1601.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drogers0...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> > As of 9:40 AM:
> >
> > From Sound Avenue, just west of CR-105 looking south I noticed a large
> group of shorebirds in the sod field.
> >
> > 1 Buffy led to the next where I tallied at least 16. There were also 2
> definitive BAIRD'S SANDPIPERS and a handful of Pectorals. Other common
> peeps were in the mix as well.
> >
> > It would be great if birders can follow up here as I had very limited
> time to further detail the area. There were plenty more birds sparsely
> located throughout this field in the distance.
> >
> > Best,
> > Derek Rogers
> > Sayville
> > Http://dereksnest.blogspot.com <http://dereksnest.blogspot.com/>
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [nysbirds-l] 16 Buff-breasted Sandpipers, 2 Baird's ++, Riverhead, Sound Ave.

2012-09-06 Thread Aaron Virgin
A highly unusual juvenile sandpiper species is currently being viewed at this 
location by MOB. The closest fit is SPOONBILLED SANDPIPER based on the odd bill 
shape, however the color of the bill is not entirely black. The chances of it 
being this species is beyond incredibly rare, but a definitive ID is still open 
for debate. Some pics are being taken but more are welcome to help nail this 
one down. First observed at 11:40 and still being seen by about 15 birders at 
the same location Derek referenced earlier. Good luck if you go.

Aaron Virgin

On Sep 6, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Derek Rogers  wrote:

> As of 9:40 AM:
> 
> From Sound Avenue, just west of CR-105 looking south I noticed a large group 
> of shorebirds in the sod field.
> 
> 1 Buffy led to the next where I tallied at least 16. There were also 2 
> definitive BAIRD'S SANDPIPERS and a handful of Pectorals. Other common peeps 
> were in the mix as well.
> 
> It would be great if birders can follow up here as I had very limited time to 
> further detail the area. There were plenty more birds sparsely located 
> throughout this field in the distance.
> 
> Best,
> Derek Rogers
> Sayville
> Http://dereksnest.blogspot.com
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] 16 Buff-breasted Sandpipers, 2 Baird's ++, Riverhead, Sound Ave.

2012-09-06 Thread Aaron Virgin
A highly unusual juvenile sandpiper species is currently being viewed at this 
location by MOB. The closest fit is SPOONBILLED SANDPIPER based on the odd bill 
shape, however the color of the bill is not entirely black. The chances of it 
being this species is beyond incredibly rare, but a definitive ID is still open 
for debate. Some pics are being taken but more are welcome to help nail this 
one down. First observed at 11:40 and still being seen by about 15 birders at 
the same location Derek referenced earlier. Good luck if you go.

Aaron Virgin

On Sep 6, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Derek Rogers drogers0...@gmail.com wrote:

 As of 9:40 AM:
 
 From Sound Avenue, just west of CR-105 looking south I noticed a large group 
 of shorebirds in the sod field.
 
 1 Buffy led to the next where I tallied at least 16. There were also 2 
 definitive BAIRD'S SANDPIPERS and a handful of Pectorals. Other common peeps 
 were in the mix as well.
 
 It would be great if birders can follow up here as I had very limited time to 
 further detail the area. There were plenty more birds sparsely located 
 throughout this field in the distance.
 
 Best,
 Derek Rogers
 Sayville
 Http://dereksnest.blogspot.com
 
 
 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] RFI: Riverhead Unusual Sandpiper

2012-09-06 Thread Aaron Virgin
A few others have shown interest about this sighting offline, so here are
some more details. *First, by no means am I calling this a Spoon-billed
Sandpiper*. When initially compared to other sandpipers in the vicinity
(notably a single White-rumped and two Baird's), the size (smaller than
both sandpipers, smaller than the Semi-palmated Plovers it was grouped
with), plumage (resembling a juvenile sandpiper based on scaly upperparts),
facial markings (an eye/ear patch more distinct than Baird's and
White-rumped), and leg color (dark), as well as the unusually shaped bill,
all pointed towards a sandpiper *resembling* a Spoon-billed. However, I
(and others) noticed the bill did not appear as spatulate when viewed
head on, rather it appeared rounded from the sides. In addition, the bill
seemed to broaden closer to the head than what is shown in books and online
for a Spoon-billed Sandpiper. The feeding habit was typical of
grass-pipers and yes, the habitat threw me and others if considering
Spoon-billed, but this side of the world seems like an odd fit in general.
Another possibility is so type of hybrid, e.g. Baird's and Semipalmated
SPs, but again the color and shape of the bill do not fit, and it is pure
speculation. A few birders took some pics and may post links to the list
later and hopefully a healthy discussion will follow.

Best regards,

Aaron Virgin
Westhampton, NY


On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Peter Scully
peterandrewscull...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Can anyone provide a little more information on this bird?  Description of
 the odd bill shape?   Grass-piper habitat seems an odd fit for
 Spoon-billed, no?
 Thanks!

 Peter


 --- On *Thu, 9/6/12, Aaron Virgin eastendbir...@gmail.com* wrote:


 From: Aaron Virgin eastendbir...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] 16 Buff-breasted Sandpipers, 2 Baird's ++,
 Riverhead, Sound Ave.
 To: Derek Rogers drogers0...@gmail.com
 Cc: NY Bird List nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
 Date: Thursday, September 6, 2012, 2:31 PM

 A highly unusual juvenile sandpiper species is currently being viewed at
 this location by MOB. The closest fit is SPOONBILLED SANDPIPER based on the
 odd bill shape, however the color of the bill is not entirely black. The
 chances of it being this species is beyond incredibly rare, but a
 definitive ID is still open for debate. Some pics are being taken but more
 are welcome to help nail this one down. First observed at 11:40 and still
 being seen by about 15 birders at the same location Derek referenced
 earlier. Good luck if you go.

 Aaron Virgin

 On Sep 6, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Derek Rogers 
 drogers0...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc1601.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drogers0...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  As of 9:40 AM:
 
  From Sound Avenue, just west of CR-105 looking south I noticed a large
 group of shorebirds in the sod field.
 
  1 Buffy led to the next where I tallied at least 16. There were also 2
 definitive BAIRD'S SANDPIPERS and a handful of Pectorals. Other common
 peeps were in the mix as well.
 
  It would be great if birders can follow up here as I had very limited
 time to further detail the area. There were plenty more birds sparsely
 located throughout this field in the distance.
 
  Best,
  Derek Rogers
  Sayville
  Http://dereksnest.blogspot.com http://dereksnest.blogspot.com/
 
 
 
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