Re: [ebirdsnyc] RE: [nysbirds-l] 19 Oct: Central Pk Sora continues -How to help the Sora

[Kellye Rosenheim]

I'm sorry that I'm just now seeing this.  If no one has been able to trap
the bird, I'm happy to forward this message to the NYC Injured Bird
Transporters to see what might be done.  This is a group of people who
stands by to help birds get from wherever they're injured to a rehabber.

Thanks,

Kellye Rosenheim



On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 11:49 PM, Ardith Bondi  wrote:

> After I saw this post, I asked Rita McMahon of the Wild Bird Fund for her
> authoritative opinion on the Sora. This was her reply:
>
> Hello Ardith,
>
> I don't think the Sora has the body mass to make it through the winter.
> If he was on the coast of Virginia or Maryland maybe. When the lock freezes
> the birders could deliver him mealworms but I don't think he will be able
> to keep warm enough.  We over-wintered one Virginia rail who ate
> wonderfully well and left in the spring. So we could certainly take the
> Sora and check him out. But it doesn't mean he will eat on his own.  And if
> we force feed them they suffer from stress. Often we get transport south
> for the rails. If he is caught before the holidays there is great
> opportunity for transit south.  We have one rail we hope will be driven
> south for her release in North Carolina, along with a few woodcocks who we
> send on so they don't have to navigate the canyons of NYC.
>
> Rita
>
> So, the challenge will be to find a proper way to capture it so as not to
> stress or injure it, which, as Rich said, will not be easy. Then, it can be
> taken to the Wild Bird Fund.
>
> Ardith Bondi
>
>
>
> On 10/25/15 6:38 PM, Richard Guthrie richardpguth...@gmail.com
> [ebirdsnyc] wrote:
>
>> Catching an injured bird like this Sora would be is a very difficult and
>> stressful operation.  And, it may result in more harm than good.
>> Although injured, this bird may not be able to fly but still appears to
>> be capable of evasion. Sending people in with nets and traps will likely
>> send this bird deeper into the marshy patch where rails are very good at
>> eluding detection or especially capture.
>>
>> That said, perhaps salting an approachable spot with cracked corn and
>> then setting a remotely (rc or cord) releasable trap would capture this
>> bird for treatment by a licensed rehabilitator.  Of course, being CP,
>> one would have to consider that this could create an attractive nuisance
>> for CP style vermin.
>>
>> Whatever the decision, I wish you all good luck. It isn't going to be
>> easy.
>>
>> Richard Guthrie
>> New Baltimore
>> The Greene County
>> NY
>> http://blog.timrsunion.com/birding
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 19, 2015, at 1:36 PM, SUSAN HERBST susie...@optonline.net
>>  [ebirdsnyc]
>> > > wrote:
>>
>> If it's injured, should some one contact a rehabber?
>>> Sue
>>>
>>> Susan Herbst
>>> graphic design/illustration/photography
>>> 516-633-7730
>>> susie...@optonline.net 
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Karen Fung wrote:
>>>
>>> > I was just informed that the Sora is still present in the Loch,
>>> > visible when viewed from the rocky overlook between the two rustic
>>> > bridges. The bird is south of the waterfall and westernmost bridge. As
>>> > others have noted on previous days, its left wing appears to be
>>> > injured.
>>> >
>>> > Karen Fung
>>> > NYC
>>> > http://BIRDSiVIEWS.com 
>>> >
>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> > NYSbirds-L List Info:
>>> > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME
>>> 
>>> > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES
>>> 
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm
>>> >> >
>>> >
>>> > ARCHIVES:
>>> > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
>>> > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
>>> > 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html
>>> >
>>> > Please submit your observations to eBird:
>>> > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> __._,_.___
>> 
>> Posted by: Richard Guthrie 
>> 
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Re: [ebirdsnyc] RE: [nysbirds-l] 19 Oct: Central Pk Sora continues -How to help the Sora

[Kellye Rosenheim]

I'm sorry that I'm just now seeing this.  If no one has been able to trap
the bird, I'm happy to forward this message to the NYC Injured Bird
Transporters to see what might be done.  This is a group of people who
stands by to help birds get from wherever they're injured to a rehabber.

Thanks,

Kellye Rosenheim



On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 11:49 PM, Ardith Bondi  wrote:

> After I saw this post, I asked Rita McMahon of the Wild Bird Fund for her
> authoritative opinion on the Sora. This was her reply:
>
> Hello Ardith,
>
> I don't think the Sora has the body mass to make it through the winter.
> If he was on the coast of Virginia or Maryland maybe. When the lock freezes
> the birders could deliver him mealworms but I don't think he will be able
> to keep warm enough.  We over-wintered one Virginia rail who ate
> wonderfully well and left in the spring. So we could certainly take the
> Sora and check him out. But it doesn't mean he will eat on his own.  And if
> we force feed them they suffer from stress. Often we get transport south
> for the rails. If he is caught before the holidays there is great
> opportunity for transit south.  We have one rail we hope will be driven
> south for her release in North Carolina, along with a few woodcocks who we
> send on so they don't have to navigate the canyons of NYC.
>
> Rita
>
> So, the challenge will be to find a proper way to capture it so as not to
> stress or injure it, which, as Rich said, will not be easy. Then, it can be
> taken to the Wild Bird Fund.
>
> Ardith Bondi
>
>
>
> On 10/25/15 6:38 PM, Richard Guthrie richardpguth...@gmail.com
> [ebirdsnyc] wrote:
>
>> Catching an injured bird like this Sora would be is a very difficult and
>> stressful operation.  And, it may result in more harm than good.
>> Although injured, this bird may not be able to fly but still appears to
>> be capable of evasion. Sending people in with nets and traps will likely
>> send this bird deeper into the marshy patch where rails are very good at
>> eluding detection or especially capture.
>>
>> That said, perhaps salting an approachable spot with cracked corn and
>> then setting a remotely (rc or cord) releasable trap would capture this
>> bird for treatment by a licensed rehabilitator.  Of course, being CP,
>> one would have to consider that this could create an attractive nuisance
>> for CP style vermin.
>>
>> Whatever the decision, I wish you all good luck. It isn't going to be
>> easy.
>>
>> Richard Guthrie
>> New Baltimore
>> The Greene County
>> NY
>> http://blog.timrsunion.com/birding
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 19, 2015, at 1:36 PM, SUSAN HERBST susie...@optonline.net
>>  [ebirdsnyc]
>> > > wrote:
>>
>> If it's injured, should some one contact a rehabber?
>>> Sue
>>>
>>> Susan Herbst
>>> graphic design/illustration/photography
>>> 516-633-7730
>>> susie...@optonline.net 
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Karen Fung wrote:
>>>
>>> > I was just informed that the Sora is still present in the Loch,
>>> > visible when viewed from the rocky overlook between the two rustic
>>> > bridges. The bird is south of the waterfall and westernmost bridge. As
>>> > others have noted on previous days, its left wing appears to be
>>> > injured.
>>> >
>>> > Karen Fung
>>> > NYC
>>> > http://BIRDSiVIEWS.com 
>>> >
>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> > NYSbirds-L List Info:
>>> > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME
>>> 
>>> > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES
>>> 
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm
>>> >> >
>>> >
>>> > ARCHIVES:
>>> > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
>>> > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
>>> > 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html
>>> >
>>> > Please submit your observations to eBird:
>>> > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> __._,_.___
>> 
>> Posted by: Richard Guthrie 
>> 
>> Reply via web post
>> <
>> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ebirdsnyc/conversations/messages/15446;_ylc=X3oDMTJya3Z0aDJvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMzM2MzUwBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc4NwRtc2dJZAMxNTQ0NgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE0NDU4MTI3MTU-?act=reply=15446
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Re: [ebirdsnyc] RE: [nysbirds-l] 19 Oct: Central Pk Sora continues -How to help the Sora

[Ardith Bondi]

After I saw this post, I asked Rita McMahon of the Wild Bird Fund for 
her authoritative opinion on the Sora. This was her reply:


Hello Ardith,

I don't think the Sora has the body mass to make it through the winter. 
 If he was on the coast of Virginia or Maryland maybe. When the lock 
freezes the birders could deliver him mealworms but I don't think he 
will be able to keep warm enough.  We over-wintered one Virginia rail 
who ate wonderfully well and left in the spring. So we could certainly 
take the Sora and check him out. But it doesn't mean he will eat on his 
own.  And if we force feed them they suffer from stress. Often we get 
transport south for the rails. If he is caught before the holidays there 
is great opportunity for transit south.  We have one rail we hope will 
be driven south for her release in North Carolina, along with a few 
woodcocks who we send on so they don't have to navigate the canyons of NYC.


Rita

So, the challenge will be to find a proper way to capture it so as not 
to stress or injure it, which, as Rich said, will not be easy. Then, it 
can be taken to the Wild Bird Fund.


Ardith Bondi



On 10/25/15 6:38 PM, Richard Guthrie richardpguth...@gmail.com 
[ebirdsnyc] wrote:

Catching an injured bird like this Sora would be is a very difficult and
stressful operation.  And, it may result in more harm than good.
Although injured, this bird may not be able to fly but still appears to
be capable of evasion. Sending people in with nets and traps will likely
send this bird deeper into the marshy patch where rails are very good at
eluding detection or especially capture.

That said, perhaps salting an approachable spot with cracked corn and
then setting a remotely (rc or cord) releasable trap would capture this
bird for treatment by a licensed rehabilitator.  Of course, being CP,
one would have to consider that this could create an attractive nuisance
for CP style vermin.

Whatever the decision, I wish you all good luck. It isn't going to be easy.

Richard Guthrie
New Baltimore
The Greene County
NY
http://blog.timrsunion.com/birding



Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 19, 2015, at 1:36 PM, SUSAN HERBST susie...@optonline.net
 [ebirdsnyc]
mailto:ebirdsnyc-nore...@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:


If it's injured, should some one contact a rehabber?
Sue

Susan Herbst
graphic design/illustration/photography
516-633-7730
susie...@optonline.net 

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Karen Fung wrote:

> I was just informed that the Sora is still present in the Loch,
> visible when viewed from the rocky overlook between the two rustic
> bridges. The bird is south of the waterfall and westernmost bridge. As
> others have noted on previous days, its left wing appears to be
> injured.
>
> Karen Fung
> NYC
> http://BIRDSiVIEWS.com 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> --
>
> NYSbirds-L List Info:
> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME

> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES

>
>
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm 

>
> ARCHIVES:
> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
> 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html
>
> Please submit your observations to eBird:
> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/
>
> --
>
>


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Re: [ebirdsnyc] RE: [nysbirds-l] 19 Oct: Central Pk Sora continues -How to help the Sora

[Ardith Bondi]

After I saw this post, I asked Rita McMahon of the Wild Bird Fund for 
her authoritative opinion on the Sora. This was her reply:


Hello Ardith,

I don't think the Sora has the body mass to make it through the winter. 
 If he was on the coast of Virginia or Maryland maybe. When the lock 
freezes the birders could deliver him mealworms but I don't think he 
will be able to keep warm enough.  We over-wintered one Virginia rail 
who ate wonderfully well and left in the spring. So we could certainly 
take the Sora and check him out. But it doesn't mean he will eat on his 
own.  And if we force feed them they suffer from stress. Often we get 
transport south for the rails. If he is caught before the holidays there 
is great opportunity for transit south.  We have one rail we hope will 
be driven south for her release in North Carolina, along with a few 
woodcocks who we send on so they don't have to navigate the canyons of NYC.


Rita

So, the challenge will be to find a proper way to capture it so as not 
to stress or injure it, which, as Rich said, will not be easy. Then, it 
can be taken to the Wild Bird Fund.


Ardith Bondi



On 10/25/15 6:38 PM, Richard Guthrie richardpguth...@gmail.com 
[ebirdsnyc] wrote:

Catching an injured bird like this Sora would be is a very difficult and
stressful operation.  And, it may result in more harm than good.
Although injured, this bird may not be able to fly but still appears to
be capable of evasion. Sending people in with nets and traps will likely
send this bird deeper into the marshy patch where rails are very good at
eluding detection or especially capture.

That said, perhaps salting an approachable spot with cracked corn and
then setting a remotely (rc or cord) releasable trap would capture this
bird for treatment by a licensed rehabilitator.  Of course, being CP,
one would have to consider that this could create an attractive nuisance
for CP style vermin.

Whatever the decision, I wish you all good luck. It isn't going to be easy.

Richard Guthrie
New Baltimore
The Greene County
NY
http://blog.timrsunion.com/birding



Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 19, 2015, at 1:36 PM, SUSAN HERBST susie...@optonline.net
 [ebirdsnyc]
> wrote:


If it's injured, should some one contact a rehabber?
Sue

Susan Herbst
graphic design/illustration/photography
516-633-7730
susie...@optonline.net 

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Karen Fung wrote:

> I was just informed that the Sora is still present in the Loch,
> visible when viewed from the rocky overlook between the two rustic
> bridges. The bird is south of the waterfall and westernmost bridge. As
> others have noted on previous days, its left wing appears to be
> injured.
>
> Karen Fung
> NYC
> http://BIRDSiVIEWS.com 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> --
>
> NYSbirds-L List Info:
> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME

> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES

>
>
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm 

>
> ARCHIVES:
> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
> 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html
>
> Please submit your observations to eBird:
> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/
>
> --
>
>


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