Re: [nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP, Suffolk County
My apologies to Arie for responding publicly. My phone bundles people together in ways I don’t understand. I know we are on the same page as far as our concern for the birds and abiding by the ABA guidelines. And I agree that splitting off to another notification group is not a great solution. We probably differ most in our faith in our fellow man- I’ve been in situations now where I’ve had to shame people into not chasing a bird over and over, some will stop and some won’t. I hope Arie is right and we can help people understand where we’re coming from. Mike Cooper Ridge >> On Sep 27, 2018, at 2:25 PM, Mike wrote: >> >> I no longer post any birds at this and other locations where I see >> photographers. I keep a group list of contacts and limit my postings to >> them. I’m sure I’m unintentionally leaving people out, and I’ve been >> throwing the idea of a WhatsApp group around with a few other birders. >> There’s currently a 256 member limit on a group, but there are ways around >> that if we some day exceeded that. >> The photography stuff is out of control and I won’t contribute to a public >> group any sightings of birds that are in chaseable locations. >> >> Mike Cooper >> Ridge >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 27, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Patricia Lindsay >>> wrote: >>> >>> Yesterday I was alerted to six juvenile Pectoral Sandpipers and two >>> Dunlin among the birds visiting the Heckscher puddles. When I arrived, >>> several people with cameras were out of their cars attempting to get >>> photos or get closer looks. These folks were approaching cautiously and >>> slowly, and while the birds did not immediately flush, they were >>> obviously hyper-alert, interfering with their ability to feed, rest and >>> preen in peace. >>> >>> I was curious about the age of the Dunlins, as they were in a >>> transitional plumage I suspected to be molting juvs. So I returned to >>> the site this morning, where I was very upset to see, not for the first >>> time, photographers in two cars and a truck positioned RIGHT IN THE >>> PUDDLE, practically on top of and surrounding the birds. I decided this >>> would not be a pleasant study and left. >>> >>> I can no longer remain silent on this issue. Folks, where is your common >>> sense, courtesy, and decency? Give these birds a chance! Is your photo >>> more important than the well-being of these migrating birds? Give other >>> birds who may be avoiding this disruption a chance to land and feed or >>> rest as well. And give other birders a chance to see them! Another >>> birder, scoping the birds from great distance, through gaps among the >>> closely gathered vehicles, was completely blocked when the truck, >>> already on top of the birds, was re-positioned to be EVEN CLOSER to the >>> birds. >>> >>> PLEASE - Stay in your cars! Or scope from a distance. >>> PLEASE - Stay out of the main puddles. Especially do not drive up >>> near/onto the grassy berm in the center of the main puddle. >>> Please keep your distance --these long-distance migrants are dropping in >>> to rest and preen and feed, impossible with such pressure on them so >>> constantly. >>> And please have respect for others trying to see the birds. >>> >>> The Dunlin, by the way, are indeed molting juveniles, as confirmed this >>> morning by Shai. >>> >>> Patricia Lindsay >>> Bay Shore >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> NYSbirds-L List Info: >>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm >>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm >>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm >>> >>> ARCHIVES: >>> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html >>> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L >>> 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 >>> >>> Please submit your observations to eBird: >>> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >>> >>> -- >> >> >> -- >> >> NYSbirds-L List Info: >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm >> >> ARCHIVES: >> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html >> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L >> 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 >> >> Please submit your observations to eBird: >> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >> >> -- >> -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP, Suffolk County
My apologies to Arie for responding publicly. My phone bundles people together in ways I don’t understand. I know we are on the same page as far as our concern for the birds and abiding by the ABA guidelines. And I agree that splitting off to another notification group is not a great solution. We probably differ most in our faith in our fellow man- I’ve been in situations now where I’ve had to shame people into not chasing a bird over and over, some will stop and some won’t. I hope Arie is right and we can help people understand where we’re coming from. Mike Cooper Ridge >> On Sep 27, 2018, at 2:25 PM, Mike wrote: >> >> I no longer post any birds at this and other locations where I see >> photographers. I keep a group list of contacts and limit my postings to >> them. I’m sure I’m unintentionally leaving people out, and I’ve been >> throwing the idea of a WhatsApp group around with a few other birders. >> There’s currently a 256 member limit on a group, but there are ways around >> that if we some day exceeded that. >> The photography stuff is out of control and I won’t contribute to a public >> group any sightings of birds that are in chaseable locations. >> >> Mike Cooper >> Ridge >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 27, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Patricia Lindsay >>> wrote: >>> >>> Yesterday I was alerted to six juvenile Pectoral Sandpipers and two >>> Dunlin among the birds visiting the Heckscher puddles. When I arrived, >>> several people with cameras were out of their cars attempting to get >>> photos or get closer looks. These folks were approaching cautiously and >>> slowly, and while the birds did not immediately flush, they were >>> obviously hyper-alert, interfering with their ability to feed, rest and >>> preen in peace. >>> >>> I was curious about the age of the Dunlins, as they were in a >>> transitional plumage I suspected to be molting juvs. So I returned to >>> the site this morning, where I was very upset to see, not for the first >>> time, photographers in two cars and a truck positioned RIGHT IN THE >>> PUDDLE, practically on top of and surrounding the birds. I decided this >>> would not be a pleasant study and left. >>> >>> I can no longer remain silent on this issue. Folks, where is your common >>> sense, courtesy, and decency? Give these birds a chance! Is your photo >>> more important than the well-being of these migrating birds? Give other >>> birds who may be avoiding this disruption a chance to land and feed or >>> rest as well. And give other birders a chance to see them! Another >>> birder, scoping the birds from great distance, through gaps among the >>> closely gathered vehicles, was completely blocked when the truck, >>> already on top of the birds, was re-positioned to be EVEN CLOSER to the >>> birds. >>> >>> PLEASE - Stay in your cars! Or scope from a distance. >>> PLEASE - Stay out of the main puddles. Especially do not drive up >>> near/onto the grassy berm in the center of the main puddle. >>> Please keep your distance --these long-distance migrants are dropping in >>> to rest and preen and feed, impossible with such pressure on them so >>> constantly. >>> And please have respect for others trying to see the birds. >>> >>> The Dunlin, by the way, are indeed molting juveniles, as confirmed this >>> morning by Shai. >>> >>> Patricia Lindsay >>> Bay Shore >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> NYSbirds-L List Info: >>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm >>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm >>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm >>> >>> ARCHIVES: >>> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html >>> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L >>> 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 >>> >>> Please submit your observations to eBird: >>> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >>> >>> -- >> >> >> -- >> >> NYSbirds-L List Info: >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm >> >> ARCHIVES: >> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html >> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L >> 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 >> >> Please submit your observations to eBird: >> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >> >> -- >> -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP, Suffolk County
If reporting them means the birds are under constant harassment then yes, they shouldn’t get reported. Guidelines like those promoted by the ABA should mean something. Or they can get reported to groups that can have some control over their memberships. This is in no way a criticism of the Listserve, just recognition of the fact that the Listserve can be viewed by anyone, whether they subscribe or not. Mike Cooper Ridge, NY Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 27, 2018, at 3:43 PM, ArieGilbert wrote: > > Great. More sightings that wont get reported. > > They're doing this in bkln and upstate. > > Yay. > > > > > Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device > > Original message > From: Mike > Date: 9/27/18 2:25 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: Patricia Lindsay > Cc: NYS Birds > Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP, Suffolk County > > I no longer post any birds at this and other locations where I see > photographers. I keep a group list of contacts and limit my postings to > them. I’m sure I’m unintentionally leaving people out, and I’ve been throwing > the idea of a WhatsApp group around with a few other birders. There’s > currently a 256 member limit on a group, but there are ways around that if we > some day exceeded that. > The photography stuff is out of control and I won’t contribute to a public > group any sightings of birds that are in chaseable locations. > > Mike Cooper > Ridge > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 27, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Patricia Lindsay > > wrote: > > > > Yesterday I was alerted to six juvenile Pectoral Sandpipers and two > > Dunlin among the birds visiting the Heckscher puddles. When I arrived, > > several people with cameras were out of their cars attempting to get > > photos or get closer looks. These folks were approaching cautiously and > > slowly, and while the birds did not immediately flush, they were > > obviously hyper-alert, interfering with their ability to feed, rest and > > preen in peace. > > > > I was curious about the age of the Dunlins, as they were in a > > transitional plumage I suspected to be molting juvs. So I returned to > > the site this morning, where I was very upset to see, not for the first > > time, photographers in two cars and a truck positioned RIGHT IN THE > > PUDDLE, practically on top of and surrounding the birds. I decided this > > would not be a pleasant study and left. > > > > I can no longer remain silent on this issue. Folks, where is your common > > sense, courtesy, and decency? Give these birds a chance! Is your photo > > more important than the well-being of these migrating birds? Give other > > birds who may be avoiding this disruption a chance to land and feed or > > rest as well. And give other birders a chance to see them! Another > > birder, scoping the birds from great distance, through gaps among the > > closely gathered vehicles, was completely blocked when the truck, > > already on top of the birds, was re-positioned to be EVEN CLOSER to the > > birds. > > > > PLEASE - Stay in your cars! Or scope from a distance. > > PLEASE - Stay out of the main puddles. Especially do not drive up > > near/onto the grassy berm in the center of the main puddle. > > Please keep your distance --these long-distance migrants are dropping in > > to rest and preen and feed, impossible with such pressure on them so > > constantly. > > And please have respect for others trying to see the birds. > > > > The Dunlin, by the way, are indeed molting juveniles, as confirmed this > > morning by Shai. > > > > Patricia Lindsay > > Bay Shore > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > NYSbirds-L List Info: > > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm > > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm > > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > > > ARCHIVES: > > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L > > 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 > > > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > > > -- > > > > > -- > > NYSbirds-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillis
Re: [nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP, Suffolk County
If reporting them means the birds are under constant harassment then yes, they shouldn’t get reported. Guidelines like those promoted by the ABA should mean something. Or they can get reported to groups that can have some control over their memberships. This is in no way a criticism of the Listserve, just recognition of the fact that the Listserve can be viewed by anyone, whether they subscribe or not. Mike Cooper Ridge, NY Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 27, 2018, at 3:43 PM, ArieGilbert wrote: > > Great. More sightings that wont get reported. > > They're doing this in bkln and upstate. > > Yay. > > > > > Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device > > Original message > From: Mike > Date: 9/27/18 2:25 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: Patricia Lindsay > Cc: NYS Birds > Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP, Suffolk County > > I no longer post any birds at this and other locations where I see > photographers. I keep a group list of contacts and limit my postings to > them. I’m sure I’m unintentionally leaving people out, and I’ve been throwing > the idea of a WhatsApp group around with a few other birders. There’s > currently a 256 member limit on a group, but there are ways around that if we > some day exceeded that. > The photography stuff is out of control and I won’t contribute to a public > group any sightings of birds that are in chaseable locations. > > Mike Cooper > Ridge > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 27, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Patricia Lindsay > > wrote: > > > > Yesterday I was alerted to six juvenile Pectoral Sandpipers and two > > Dunlin among the birds visiting the Heckscher puddles. When I arrived, > > several people with cameras were out of their cars attempting to get > > photos or get closer looks. These folks were approaching cautiously and > > slowly, and while the birds did not immediately flush, they were > > obviously hyper-alert, interfering with their ability to feed, rest and > > preen in peace. > > > > I was curious about the age of the Dunlins, as they were in a > > transitional plumage I suspected to be molting juvs. So I returned to > > the site this morning, where I was very upset to see, not for the first > > time, photographers in two cars and a truck positioned RIGHT IN THE > > PUDDLE, practically on top of and surrounding the birds. I decided this > > would not be a pleasant study and left. > > > > I can no longer remain silent on this issue. Folks, where is your common > > sense, courtesy, and decency? Give these birds a chance! Is your photo > > more important than the well-being of these migrating birds? Give other > > birds who may be avoiding this disruption a chance to land and feed or > > rest as well. And give other birders a chance to see them! Another > > birder, scoping the birds from great distance, through gaps among the > > closely gathered vehicles, was completely blocked when the truck, > > already on top of the birds, was re-positioned to be EVEN CLOSER to the > > birds. > > > > PLEASE - Stay in your cars! Or scope from a distance. > > PLEASE - Stay out of the main puddles. Especially do not drive up > > near/onto the grassy berm in the center of the main puddle. > > Please keep your distance --these long-distance migrants are dropping in > > to rest and preen and feed, impossible with such pressure on them so > > constantly. > > And please have respect for others trying to see the birds. > > > > The Dunlin, by the way, are indeed molting juveniles, as confirmed this > > morning by Shai. > > > > Patricia Lindsay > > Bay Shore > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > NYSbirds-L List Info: > > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm > > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm > > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > > > ARCHIVES: > > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L > > 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 > > > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > > > -- > > > > > -- > > NYSbirds-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillis
Re: [nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP, Suffolk County
I no longer post any birds at this and other locations where I see photographers. I keep a group list of contacts and limit my postings to them. I’m sure I’m unintentionally leaving people out, and I’ve been throwing the idea of a WhatsApp group around with a few other birders. There’s currently a 256 member limit on a group, but there are ways around that if we some day exceeded that. The photography stuff is out of control and I won’t contribute to a public group any sightings of birds that are in chaseable locations. Mike Cooper Ridge Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 27, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Patricia Lindsay wrote: > > Yesterday I was alerted to six juvenile Pectoral Sandpipers and two > Dunlin among the birds visiting the Heckscher puddles. When I arrived, > several people with cameras were out of their cars attempting to get > photos or get closer looks. These folks were approaching cautiously and > slowly, and while the birds did not immediately flush, they were > obviously hyper-alert, interfering with their ability to feed, rest and > preen in peace. > > I was curious about the age of the Dunlins, as they were in a > transitional plumage I suspected to be molting juvs. So I returned to > the site this morning, where I was very upset to see, not for the first > time, photographers in two cars and a truck positioned RIGHT IN THE > PUDDLE, practically on top of and surrounding the birds. I decided this > would not be a pleasant study and left. > > I can no longer remain silent on this issue. Folks, where is your common > sense, courtesy, and decency? Give these birds a chance! Is your photo > more important than the well-being of these migrating birds? Give other > birds who may be avoiding this disruption a chance to land and feed or > rest as well. And give other birders a chance to see them! Another > birder, scoping the birds from great distance, through gaps among the > closely gathered vehicles, was completely blocked when the truck, > already on top of the birds, was re-positioned to be EVEN CLOSER to the > birds. > > PLEASE - Stay in your cars! Or scope from a distance. > PLEASE - Stay out of the main puddles. Especially do not drive up > near/onto the grassy berm in the center of the main puddle. > Please keep your distance --these long-distance migrants are dropping in > to rest and preen and feed, impossible with such pressure on them so > constantly. > And please have respect for others trying to see the birds. > > The Dunlin, by the way, are indeed molting juveniles, as confirmed this > morning by Shai. > > Patricia Lindsay > Bay Shore > > > > > > > > -- > > NYSbirds-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L > 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP, Suffolk County
I no longer post any birds at this and other locations where I see photographers. I keep a group list of contacts and limit my postings to them. I’m sure I’m unintentionally leaving people out, and I’ve been throwing the idea of a WhatsApp group around with a few other birders. There’s currently a 256 member limit on a group, but there are ways around that if we some day exceeded that. The photography stuff is out of control and I won’t contribute to a public group any sightings of birds that are in chaseable locations. Mike Cooper Ridge Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 27, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Patricia Lindsay wrote: > > Yesterday I was alerted to six juvenile Pectoral Sandpipers and two > Dunlin among the birds visiting the Heckscher puddles. When I arrived, > several people with cameras were out of their cars attempting to get > photos or get closer looks. These folks were approaching cautiously and > slowly, and while the birds did not immediately flush, they were > obviously hyper-alert, interfering with their ability to feed, rest and > preen in peace. > > I was curious about the age of the Dunlins, as they were in a > transitional plumage I suspected to be molting juvs. So I returned to > the site this morning, where I was very upset to see, not for the first > time, photographers in two cars and a truck positioned RIGHT IN THE > PUDDLE, practically on top of and surrounding the birds. I decided this > would not be a pleasant study and left. > > I can no longer remain silent on this issue. Folks, where is your common > sense, courtesy, and decency? Give these birds a chance! Is your photo > more important than the well-being of these migrating birds? Give other > birds who may be avoiding this disruption a chance to land and feed or > rest as well. And give other birders a chance to see them! Another > birder, scoping the birds from great distance, through gaps among the > closely gathered vehicles, was completely blocked when the truck, > already on top of the birds, was re-positioned to be EVEN CLOSER to the > birds. > > PLEASE - Stay in your cars! Or scope from a distance. > PLEASE - Stay out of the main puddles. Especially do not drive up > near/onto the grassy berm in the center of the main puddle. > Please keep your distance --these long-distance migrants are dropping in > to rest and preen and feed, impossible with such pressure on them so > constantly. > And please have respect for others trying to see the birds. > > The Dunlin, by the way, are indeed molting juveniles, as confirmed this > morning by Shai. > > Patricia Lindsay > Bay Shore > > > > > > > > -- > > NYSbirds-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L > 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP, Suffolk County
Yesterday I was alerted to six juvenile Pectoral Sandpipers and two Dunlin among the birds visiting the Heckscher puddles. When I arrived, several people with cameras were out of their cars attempting to get photos or get closer looks. These folks were approaching cautiously and slowly, and while the birds did not immediately flush, they were obviously hyper-alert, interfering with their ability to feed, rest and preen in peace. I was curious about the age of the Dunlins, as they were in a transitional plumage I suspected to be molting juvs. So I returned to the site this morning, where I was very upset to see, not for the first time, photographers in two cars and a truck positioned RIGHT IN THE PUDDLE, practically on top of and surrounding the birds. I decided this would not be a pleasant study and left. I can no longer remain silent on this issue. Folks, where is your common sense, courtesy, and decency? Give these birds a chance! Is your photo more important than the well-being of these migrating birds? Give other birds who may be avoiding this disruption a chance to land and feed or rest as well. And give other birders a chance to see them! Another birder, scoping the birds from great distance, through gaps among the closely gathered vehicles, was completely blocked when the truck, already on top of the birds, was re-positioned to be EVEN CLOSER to the birds. PLEASE - Stay in your cars! Or scope from a distance. PLEASE - Stay out of the main puddles. Especially do not drive up near/onto the grassy berm in the center of the main puddle. Please keep your distance --these long-distance migrants are dropping in to rest and preen and feed, impossible with such pressure on them so constantly. And please have respect for others trying to see the birds. The Dunlin, by the way, are indeed molting juveniles, as confirmed this morning by Shai. Patricia Lindsay Bay Shore -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP, Suffolk County
Yesterday I was alerted to six juvenile Pectoral Sandpipers and two Dunlin among the birds visiting the Heckscher puddles. When I arrived, several people with cameras were out of their cars attempting to get photos or get closer looks. These folks were approaching cautiously and slowly, and while the birds did not immediately flush, they were obviously hyper-alert, interfering with their ability to feed, rest and preen in peace. I was curious about the age of the Dunlins, as they were in a transitional plumage I suspected to be molting juvs. So I returned to the site this morning, where I was very upset to see, not for the first time, photographers in two cars and a truck positioned RIGHT IN THE PUDDLE, practically on top of and surrounding the birds. I decided this would not be a pleasant study and left. I can no longer remain silent on this issue. Folks, where is your common sense, courtesy, and decency? Give these birds a chance! Is your photo more important than the well-being of these migrating birds? Give other birds who may be avoiding this disruption a chance to land and feed or rest as well. And give other birders a chance to see them! Another birder, scoping the birds from great distance, through gaps among the closely gathered vehicles, was completely blocked when the truck, already on top of the birds, was re-positioned to be EVEN CLOSER to the birds. PLEASE - Stay in your cars! Or scope from a distance. PLEASE - Stay out of the main puddles. Especially do not drive up near/onto the grassy berm in the center of the main puddle. Please keep your distance --these long-distance migrants are dropping in to rest and preen and feed, impossible with such pressure on them so constantly. And please have respect for others trying to see the birds. The Dunlin, by the way, are indeed molting juveniles, as confirmed this morning by Shai. Patricia Lindsay Bay Shore -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP
Joe Giunta & I (Sy Schiff) reacted to a call and returned to Heckscher after yesterday’s visit arriving about !:30. The HUDSONIAN GODWIT was in the puddle with a LONG-BILLED DOWITCHER and DUNLIN in a neat grouping. And they immediately flew off. The Godwit circled and landed close to where we were parked. And then it flew off towards Field #6. Almost all the remaining shorebirds flew off with it. Staying, were a few Greater Yellowlegs, Dunlin and a pair of SEMIPALMATED SANDPIPERS. The latter were carefully checked for Western Sandpiper, more common at this late date. At Field #6, there were both GREATER and LESSER YELLOWLEGS, and KILLDEER. Ducks included MALLARD, BLACK, female PINTAIL, GREEN AND BLUE-WINGED TEAL. We returned to Field #7 on the way home and the Godwit had again returned. Patience required. Sy Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP
Joe Giunta & I (Sy Schiff) reacted to a call and returned to Heckscher after yesterday’s visit arriving about !:30. The HUDSONIAN GODWIT was in the puddle with a LONG-BILLED DOWITCHER and DUNLIN in a neat grouping. And they immediately flew off. The Godwit circled and landed close to where we were parked. And then it flew off towards Field #6. Almost all the remaining shorebirds flew off with it. Staying, were a few Greater Yellowlegs, Dunlin and a pair of SEMIPALMATED SANDPIPERS. The latter were carefully checked for Western Sandpiper, more common at this late date. At Field #6, there were both GREATER and LESSER YELLOWLEGS, and KILLDEER. Ducks included MALLARD, BLACK, female PINTAIL, GREEN AND BLUE-WINGED TEAL. We returned to Field #7 on the way home and the Godwit had again returned. Patience required. Sy Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP - Suffolk LB Dowitcher
In the puddles of field 7 one Long Billed Dowitcher is observed along with at least one American Golden Plover and other shorebirds (BB Plover, Dunlin, G Yellowlegs) Sent from my iPhone -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP - Suffolk LB Dowitcher
In the puddles of field 7 one Long Billed Dowitcher is observed along with at least one American Golden Plover and other shorebirds (BB Plover, Dunlin, G Yellowlegs) Sent from my iPhone -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP (Suffolk): American Golden Plover, Long-billed Dowitcher
I went to Heckscher SP (Suffolk) from 11:30 AM to about 1PM today. It rained steadily but it was 64 degrees. There was a nice variety of shorebirds providing very close views. The highlights were 3 American Golden Plovers and a very nondescript Long-billed Dowitcher that I initially could not pin down to species. Later, Ken Thompson and Mike Cooper showed up and also couldn’t provide a positive ID on a very wet bird. Finally, the bird picked up and Mike was able to hear and make an audible identification. Thanks Mike!! Also present were roughly 40+ Dunlin, 1 Semipalmated Plover, and many Killdeer, Greater Yellowlegs, and Black-bellied Plovers. A female Pintail was also in the main pool. I posted a few lousy photos to the eBird checklist of the Golden Plover and Dunlin. I tried to post a decent video of the dowitcher, too, but eBird would not accept MP4 format. I tried converting to MP3 but it only took the audio portion. If anyone knows how to convert MP4/upload to ebird, let me know and I’ll post it. Cheers, Glenn Quinn Hauppauge, NY -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP (Suffolk): American Golden Plover, Long-billed Dowitcher
I went to Heckscher SP (Suffolk) from 11:30 AM to about 1PM today. It rained steadily but it was 64 degrees. There was a nice variety of shorebirds providing very close views. The highlights were 3 American Golden Plovers and a very nondescript Long-billed Dowitcher that I initially could not pin down to species. Later, Ken Thompson and Mike Cooper showed up and also couldn’t provide a positive ID on a very wet bird. Finally, the bird picked up and Mike was able to hear and make an audible identification. Thanks Mike!! Also present were roughly 40+ Dunlin, 1 Semipalmated Plover, and many Killdeer, Greater Yellowlegs, and Black-bellied Plovers. A female Pintail was also in the main pool. I posted a few lousy photos to the eBird checklist of the Golden Plover and Dunlin. I tried to post a decent video of the dowitcher, too, but eBird would not accept MP4 format. I tried converting to MP3 but it only took the audio portion. If anyone knows how to convert MP4/upload to ebird, let me know and I’ll post it. Cheers, Glenn Quinn Hauppauge, NY -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP shorebirds
A nice collection of shorebirds between 10AM and noon at the Field 7 parking lot this morning, Heckscher SP. Very close views of all. Besides the regulars, there were a single White-rumped Sandpiper, 2 Pectoral Sandpipers, 2 Red Knot, and 1 lonely Short-billed Dowitcher (heard calling before it left). Many Semipalmated Plovers, Killdeer, Semipalmated Sandpipers, Least Sandpipers, several Greater and Lesser Yellowlegs and Sanderling. About 8 or 10 Black-bellied Plover, including one very clean individual, an apparent juvenile that kept to itself, with definite golden hues on the head and upper back (but black axillars and white tail/rump in flight). Also, a very ragged Horned Lark in the parking lot. An Osprey dropped into the parking lot puddle amidst all the shorebirds and proceeded to bath for some time. Most of the shorebirds seemed indifferent to it but some seemed to be looking at it like we would look at a waiter with his thumb in our soup. Glenn Quinn Hauppauge, NY -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP shorebirds
A nice collection of shorebirds between 10AM and noon at the Field 7 parking lot this morning, Heckscher SP. Very close views of all. Besides the regulars, there were a single White-rumped Sandpiper, 2 Pectoral Sandpipers, 2 Red Knot, and 1 lonely Short-billed Dowitcher (heard calling before it left). Many Semipalmated Plovers, Killdeer, Semipalmated Sandpipers, Least Sandpipers, several Greater and Lesser Yellowlegs and Sanderling. About 8 or 10 Black-bellied Plover, including one very clean individual, an apparent juvenile that kept to itself, with definite golden hues on the head and upper back (but black axillars and white tail/rump in flight). Also, a very ragged Horned Lark in the parking lot. An Osprey dropped into the parking lot puddle amidst all the shorebirds and proceeded to bath for some time. Most of the shorebirds seemed indifferent to it but some seemed to be looking at it like we would look at a waiter with his thumb in our soup. Glenn Quinn Hauppauge, NY -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP, Suffolk LBB Gulls
Wow, I had one around two o'clock On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 5:01 PM Mikewrote: > Currently 5 Lesser Black-backed Gulls in the flooded parking field at > Heckscher. 4 adults, 1 1st year > > Mike Cooper > Rodge, LI, NY > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > > NYSbirds-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L > 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > > -- Ken Thompson Sayville NY -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP, Suffolk LBB Gulls
Wow, I had one around two o'clock On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 5:01 PM Mike wrote: > Currently 5 Lesser Black-backed Gulls in the flooded parking field at > Heckscher. 4 adults, 1 1st year > > Mike Cooper > Rodge, LI, NY > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > > NYSbirds-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L > 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > > -- Ken Thompson Sayville NY -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP, Suffolk LBB Gulls
Currently 5 Lesser Black-backed Gulls in the flooded parking field at Heckscher. 4 adults, 1 1st year Mike Cooper Rodge, LI, NY Sent from my iPhone -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP, Suffolk LBB Gulls
Currently 5 Lesser Black-backed Gulls in the flooded parking field at Heckscher. 4 adults, 1 1st year Mike Cooper Rodge, LI, NY Sent from my iPhone -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP Am. Golden-Plover, Setauket Black-headed Gull - Suffolk Co.
The previously reported Am. Golden-Plover was feeding in the median near Field 8 at Heckscher SP around 8:30 AM (now within count week for the Captree CBC). The previously reported Black-headed Gull was milling around in the Setauket Mill Pond at 1:35 PM (but not at 1:30!) this afternoon. Patricia Lindsay Bay Shore, NY -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP Am. Golden-Plover, Setauket Black-headed Gull - Suffolk Co.
The previously reported Am. Golden-Plover was feeding in the median near Field 8 at Heckscher SP around 8:30 AM (now within count week for the Captree CBC). The previously reported Black-headed Gull was milling around in the Setauket Mill Pond at 1:35 PM (but not at 1:30!) this afternoon. Patricia Lindsay Bay Shore, NY -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP. Field 7
Pectoral sandpiper (6), white rump sand. (2) among shorebirds at field seven noon today. Mike & Lynne Scheibel Brookhaven -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP. Field 7
Pectoral sandpiper (6), white rump sand. (2) among shorebirds at field seven noon today. Mike Lynne Scheibel Brookhaven -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --