Re: [nysbirds-l] Monarchs
On the North Fork of Long Island we have had abundant Seaside Goldenrod, but a real scarcity of Monarchs feeding and resting on them. Last year the Monarchs arrived while the Goldenrod was not quite blooming; this year the Goldenrod is waiting but devoid of Monarchs.We miss them fluttering off Long Island Sound and streaming along the beaches . We actually had a Monarch caterpillar on a milkweed in our yard a couple of weeks ago, but he was gone the next day. At present we are in southern Vermont and Monarchs have also been absent here. Could the spring storms have wiped out a whole northbound population? Hope next year will be better. On Oct 10, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Ann Mitchell wrote: We also have lots of golden rod and have seen Monarchs. 3 years ago in Cape May, 3rd week in September, we saw thousands of them- over the water, binocular view, and on the golden rod or other flowers. We went there for bird migrants, but. Pete Dunne even mentioned them in a report. It was spectacular! Hope there are still enough trees in Mexico for them to winter over. Maybe it is just an off year.?? Ann Mitchell Sent from my IPhone On Oct 10, 2013, at 7:40 AM, steve rosenthal wrote: at jones beach and point lookout here in NY my impression was that there were still ample goldenrods back along the roadways and (at Pt Lookout) along the shore of Jones Inlet All with nary a monarch on them on my last few visits. I think 4 or 5 monarchs was the most I saw on any single visit of an hour to two hours length. This has been typical for observers posting all summer long to the NABA (North American Butterfly Assocaition) websites' "Postings" from anywhere in the eastern half of the US. On 10/10/13, Peter Priolo wrote: Excellent question I've noticed a decline as well. I am no expert but have tagged monarchs as a citizen scientist for the past 3 years on the south shore of Long Island as part of the U of Kansas monarch watch project. Two years ago there were enough monarchs flying east to west along the dunes that praying mantis would ambush them on the seaside goldenrod. This year I the amount and rate of monarchs flying east to west on the coastal dunes decreased dramatically. I think this is linked with the observation that there appears to be less goldenrod stands; and, I think there are less goldenrod because of physical change of the dunes from hurricane Sandy. Some great stands got buried along beachfront that I have found monarchs at in past years. I wonder if there are less goldenrod available along the entire coast in the plants range. I wonder if this will set them back as the yellow blooms are an energy source timed with their migration. That is my speculation. I don't know if the monarch population actually did decrease markedly this year, I just saw less where I used to see more. Peter Priolo Ctr Moriches -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/ NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/ NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/ NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Monarchs
We also have lots of golden rod and have seen Monarchs. 3 years ago in Cape May, 3rd week in September, we saw thousands of them- over the water, binocular view, and on the golden rod or other flowers. We went there for bird migrants, but. Pete Dunne even mentioned them in a report. It was spectacular! Hope there are still enough trees in Mexico for them to winter over. Maybe it is just an off year.?? Ann Mitchell Sent from my IPhone > On Oct 10, 2013, at 7:40 AM, steve rosenthal wrote: > > at jones beach and point lookout here in NY my impression was that > there were still ample goldenrods back along the roadways and (at Pt > Lookout) along the shore of Jones Inlet All with nary a monarch on > them on my last few visits. I think 4 or 5 monarchs was the most I saw > on any single visit of an hour to two hours length. This has been > typical for observers posting all summer long to the NABA (North > American Butterfly Assocaition) websites' "Postings" from anywhere > in the eastern half of the US. > >> On 10/10/13, Peter Priolo wrote: >> Excellent question I've noticed a decline as well. I am no expert but have >> tagged monarchs as a citizen scientist for the past 3 years on the south >> shore of Long Island as part of the U of Kansas monarch watch project. Two >> years ago there were enough monarchs flying east to west along the dunes >> that praying mantis would ambush them on the seaside goldenrod. >> This year I the amount and rate of monarchs flying east to west on the >> coastal dunes decreased dramatically. >> I think this is linked with the observation that there appears to be less >> goldenrod stands; and, I think there are less goldenrod because of physical >> change of the dunes from hurricane Sandy. Some great stands got buried along >> beachfront that I have found monarchs at in past years. >> I wonder if there are less goldenrod available along the entire coast in the >> plants range. I wonder if this will set them back as the yellow blooms are >> an energy source timed with their migration. >> That is my speculation. I don't know if the monarch population actually did >> decrease markedly this year, I just saw less where I used to see more. >> >> Peter Priolo >> Ctr Moriches >> -- >> >> NYSbirds-L List Info: >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES >> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm >> >> ARCHIVES: >> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html >> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L >> 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html >> >> Please submit your observations to eBird: >> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >> >> -- > > -- > > NYSbirds-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L > 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Monarchs
at jones beach and point lookout here in NY my impression was that there were still ample goldenrods back along the roadways and (at Pt Lookout) along the shore of Jones Inlet All with nary a monarch on them on my last few visits. I think 4 or 5 monarchs was the most I saw on any single visit of an hour to two hours length. This has been typical for observers posting all summer long to the NABA (North American Butterfly Assocaition) websites' "Postings" from anywhere in the eastern half of the US. On 10/10/13, Peter Priolo wrote: > Excellent question I've noticed a decline as well. I am no expert but have > tagged monarchs as a citizen scientist for the past 3 years on the south > shore of Long Island as part of the U of Kansas monarch watch project. Two > years ago there were enough monarchs flying east to west along the dunes > that praying mantis would ambush them on the seaside goldenrod. > This year I the amount and rate of monarchs flying east to west on the > coastal dunes decreased dramatically. > I think this is linked with the observation that there appears to be less > goldenrod stands; and, I think there are less goldenrod because of physical > change of the dunes from hurricane Sandy. Some great stands got buried along > beachfront that I have found monarchs at in past years. > I wonder if there are less goldenrod available along the entire coast in the > plants range. I wonder if this will set them back as the yellow blooms are > an energy source timed with their migration. > That is my speculation. I don't know if the monarch population actually did > decrease markedly this year, I just saw less where I used to see more. > > Peter Priolo > Ctr Moriches > -- > > NYSbirds-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L > 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > > -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Monarchs
at jones beach and point lookout here in NY my impression was that there were still ample goldenrods back along the roadways and (at Pt Lookout) along the shore of Jones Inlet All with nary a monarch on them on my last few visits. I think 4 or 5 monarchs was the most I saw on any single visit of an hour to two hours length. This has been typical for observers posting all summer long to the NABA (North American Butterfly Assocaition) websites' Postings from anywhere in the eastern half of the US. On 10/10/13, Peter Priolo peterpri...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent question I've noticed a decline as well. I am no expert but have tagged monarchs as a citizen scientist for the past 3 years on the south shore of Long Island as part of the U of Kansas monarch watch project. Two years ago there were enough monarchs flying east to west along the dunes that praying mantis would ambush them on the seaside goldenrod. This year I the amount and rate of monarchs flying east to west on the coastal dunes decreased dramatically. I think this is linked with the observation that there appears to be less goldenrod stands; and, I think there are less goldenrod because of physical change of the dunes from hurricane Sandy. Some great stands got buried along beachfront that I have found monarchs at in past years. I wonder if there are less goldenrod available along the entire coast in the plants range. I wonder if this will set them back as the yellow blooms are an energy source timed with their migration. That is my speculation. I don't know if the monarch population actually did decrease markedly this year, I just saw less where I used to see more. Peter Priolo Ctr Moriches -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Monarchs
On the North Fork of Long Island we have had abundant Seaside Goldenrod, but a real scarcity of Monarchs feeding and resting on them. Last year the Monarchs arrived while the Goldenrod was not quite blooming; this year the Goldenrod is waiting but devoid of Monarchs.We miss them fluttering off Long Island Sound and streaming along the beaches . We actually had a Monarch caterpillar on a milkweed in our yard a couple of weeks ago, but he was gone the next day. At present we are in southern Vermont and Monarchs have also been absent here. Could the spring storms have wiped out a whole northbound population? Hope next year will be better. On Oct 10, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Ann Mitchell wrote: We also have lots of golden rod and have seen Monarchs. 3 years ago in Cape May, 3rd week in September, we saw thousands of them- over the water, binocular view, and on the golden rod or other flowers. We went there for bird migrants, but. Pete Dunne even mentioned them in a report. It was spectacular! Hope there are still enough trees in Mexico for them to winter over. Maybe it is just an off year.?? Ann Mitchell Sent from my IPhone On Oct 10, 2013, at 7:40 AM, steve rosenthal smr...@gmail.com wrote: at jones beach and point lookout here in NY my impression was that there were still ample goldenrods back along the roadways and (at Pt Lookout) along the shore of Jones Inlet All with nary a monarch on them on my last few visits. I think 4 or 5 monarchs was the most I saw on any single visit of an hour to two hours length. This has been typical for observers posting all summer long to the NABA (North American Butterfly Assocaition) websites' Postings from anywhere in the eastern half of the US. On 10/10/13, Peter Priolo peterpri...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent question I've noticed a decline as well. I am no expert but have tagged monarchs as a citizen scientist for the past 3 years on the south shore of Long Island as part of the U of Kansas monarch watch project. Two years ago there were enough monarchs flying east to west along the dunes that praying mantis would ambush them on the seaside goldenrod. This year I the amount and rate of monarchs flying east to west on the coastal dunes decreased dramatically. I think this is linked with the observation that there appears to be less goldenrod stands; and, I think there are less goldenrod because of physical change of the dunes from hurricane Sandy. Some great stands got buried along beachfront that I have found monarchs at in past years. I wonder if there are less goldenrod available along the entire coast in the plants range. I wonder if this will set them back as the yellow blooms are an energy source timed with their migration. That is my speculation. I don't know if the monarch population actually did decrease markedly this year, I just saw less where I used to see more. Peter Priolo Ctr Moriches -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/ NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/ NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/ NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Monarchs
Excellent question I've noticed a decline as well. I am no expert but have tagged monarchs as a citizen scientist for the past 3 years on the south shore of Long Island as part of the U of Kansas monarch watch project. Two years ago there were enough monarchs flying east to west along the dunes that praying mantis would ambush them on the seaside goldenrod. This year I the amount and rate of monarchs flying east to west on the coastal dunes decreased dramatically. I think this is linked with the observation that there appears to be less goldenrod stands; and, I think there are less goldenrod because of physical change of the dunes from hurricane Sandy. Some great stands got buried along beachfront that I have found monarchs at in past years. I wonder if there are less goldenrod available along the entire coast in the plants range. I wonder if this will set them back as the yellow blooms are an energy source timed with their migration. That is my speculation. I don't know if the monarch population actually did decrease markedly this year, I just saw less where I used to see more. Peter Priolo Ctr Moriches -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Monarchs
Excellent question I've noticed a decline as well. I am no expert but have tagged monarchs as a citizen scientist for the past 3 years on the south shore of Long Island as part of the U of Kansas monarch watch project. Two years ago there were enough monarchs flying east to west along the dunes that praying mantis would ambush them on the seaside goldenrod. This year I the amount and rate of monarchs flying east to west on the coastal dunes decreased dramatically. I think this is linked with the observation that there appears to be less goldenrod stands; and, I think there are less goldenrod because of physical change of the dunes from hurricane Sandy. Some great stands got buried along beachfront that I have found monarchs at in past years. I wonder if there are less goldenrod available along the entire coast in the plants range. I wonder if this will set them back as the yellow blooms are an energy source timed with their migration. That is my speculation. I don't know if the monarch population actually did decrease markedly this year, I just saw less where I used to see more. Peter Priolo Ctr Moriches -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
