Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-03-21 Thread WilliamWatsonSr
:38 AM To: Glenn Wilson; Cc: Larry Federman; Will Raup; Stella Miller; NYSBIRDS-L; Voisine, Matthew NAN02 Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED) Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE I think this subject is getting out of control but my experience

RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-03-21 Thread Patrick Santinello
; Voisine, Matthew NAN02 Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED) Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE I think this subject is getting out of control but my experience is hunters know EXACTLY what the species is that they are hunting. The conversation is beginning

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2014-03-21 Thread Phil Uruburu
0.8718 voice >> 702.271.0496 mobile >> 212.264.0961 fax >> matthew.vois...@usace.army.mil >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Glenn Wilson [mailto:wil...@stny.rr.com] >> Sent: Friday, 21 March, 2014 11:32 >> To: >> C

Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED) - SORRY! (thread had been closed ...)

2014-03-21 Thread Alicia Plotkin
Plaza >> Room 2151 >> NY, NY 10278 >> 917.790.8718 voice >> 702.271.0496 mobile >> 212.264.0961 fax >> matthew.vois...@usace.army.mil >> >> >> -Original Message----- >> From: Glenn Wilson [mailto:wil...@stny.rr.com] >> Sent: Fr

Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-03-21 Thread Alicia Plotkin
12.264.0961 fax > matthew.vois...@usace.army.mil > > > -Original Message- > From: Glenn Wilson [mailto:wil...@stny.rr.com] > Sent: Friday, 21 March, 2014 11:32 > To: > Cc: Larry Federman; Voisine, Matthew NAN02; Will Raup; Stella Miller; > NYSBIRDS-L > Subject: Re: [EX

Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-03-21 Thread Hugh McGuinness
-Original Message- > From: Glenn Wilson [mailto:wil...@stny.rr.com] > Sent: Friday, 21 March, 2014 11:32 > To: > Cc: Larry Federman; Voisine, Matthew NAN02; Will Raup; Stella Miller; > NYSBIRDS-L > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED) >

RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-03-21 Thread Voisine, Matthew NAN02
: Friday, 21 March, 2014 11:32 To: Cc: Larry Federman; Voisine, Matthew NAN02; Will Raup; Stella Miller; NYSBIRDS-L Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED) I'm curious how many hunters actually know the difference between a crow (fish of American) and starling, red

Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-03-21 Thread Glenn Wilson
introduced to have American and Fish Crows classified as songbirds and to close the hunting season for them or some other alternate approach.. John Turner - Original Message - From: Larry Federman Date: Friday, March 21, 2014 9:49 am Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Pre

Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-03-21 Thread redknot
classified as songbirds and to close the hunting season for them or some other alternate approach..  John Turner  - Original Message - From: Larry Federman Date: Friday, March 21, 2014 9:49 am Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED) To: "Voisine, Ma

Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-03-21 Thread Larry Federman
; Stella Miller ; NYSBIRDS-L Cc: Voisine, Matthew NAN02 Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED) Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE I picked up on that also but wasn't going to say anything. However it is a huge "typo". However, if the hunt is

Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-03-21 Thread Larry Federman
; Stella Miller ; NYSBIRDS-L Cc: Voisine, Matthew NAN02 Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED) Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE I picked up on that also but wasn't going to say anything. However it is a huge typo. However, if the hunt is happening

Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-03-21 Thread redknot
classified as songbirds and to close the hunting season for them or some other alternate approach..  John Turner  - Original Message - From: Larry Federman Date: Friday, March 21, 2014 9:49 am Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED) To: Voisine, Matthew

Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-03-21 Thread Glenn Wilson
Catskills Audubon -Original Message- From: Voisine, Matthew NAN02 Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:18 PM To: Will Raup ; Stella Miller ; NYSBIRDS-L Cc: Voisine, Matthew NAN02 Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED) Classification: UNCLASSIFIED

RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-03-21 Thread Voisine, Matthew NAN02
: Friday, 21 March, 2014 11:32 To: redk...@optonline.net Cc: Larry Federman; Voisine, Matthew NAN02; Will Raup; Stella Miller; NYSBIRDS-L Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED) I'm curious how many hunters actually know the difference between a crow (fish of American

Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-03-21 Thread Hugh McGuinness
, 2014 11:32 To: redk...@optonline.net Cc: Larry Federman; Voisine, Matthew NAN02; Will Raup; Stella Miller; NYSBIRDS-L Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED) I'm curious how many hunters actually know the difference between a crow (fish of American) and starling

Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-03-21 Thread Alicia Plotkin
- From: Glenn Wilson [mailto:wil...@stny.rr.com] Sent: Friday, 21 March, 2014 11:32 To:redk...@optonline.net Cc: Larry Federman; Voisine, Matthew NAN02; Will Raup; Stella Miller; NYSBIRDS-L Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED) I'm curious how many hunters

Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED) - SORRY! (thread had been closed ...)

2014-03-21 Thread Alicia Plotkin
To:redk...@optonline.net Cc: Larry Federman; Voisine, Matthew NAN02; Will Raup; Stella Miller; NYSBIRDS-L Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED) I'm curious how many hunters actually know the difference between a crow (fish of American) and starling, red

Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-03-21 Thread Phil Uruburu
; Voisine, Matthew NAN02; Will Raup; Stella Miller; NYSBIRDS-L Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED) I'm curious how many hunters actually know the difference between a crow (fish of American) and starling, red-winged BB, Rusty BB, and Grackles. I'd

RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-03-21 Thread Patrick Santinello
Miller; NYSBIRDS-L; Voisine, Matthew NAN02 Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED) Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE I think this subject is getting out of control but my experience is hunters know EXACTLY what the species is that they are hunting

Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-03-21 Thread WilliamWatsonSr
:38 AM To: Glenn Wilson; redk...@optonline.net Cc: Larry Federman; Will Raup; Stella Miller; NYSBIRDS-L; Voisine, Matthew NAN02 Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED) Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE I think this subject is getting out of control

Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release

2014-03-20 Thread Stella Miller
__ From: Larry Federman To: Rick & Linda Kedenburg ; Stella Miller Cc: Colleen / spider99 ; NYSBIRDS-L Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release Since my car was being serviced at the body shop listed in the flyer “for more info”, I ne

Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release

2014-03-20 Thread Larry Federman
, and yet within one day, and working together, we all were able to stop this vicious shoot. From: Rick & Linda Kedenburg Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 4:11 PM To: Stella Miller Cc: Colleen / spider99 ; NYSBIRDS-L Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release I think we are all on the same

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2014-03-20 Thread Rick & Linda Kedenburg
t is up > to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not > between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an > impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy > From: Colleen / spider99 > To: Stella Miller > Cc: NYSBIRDS-L > Sent: T

Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release

2014-03-20 Thread Stella Miller
rom: spide...@stny.rr.com To: stella.mille...@yahoo.com CC: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 15:36:22 -0400 Please don't lump all of us who live "upstate" together.  There are a number of us here in the Southern Tier and

RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release

2014-03-20 Thread Will Raup
@cornell.edu Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 15:36:22 -0400 Please don't lump all of us who live "upstate" together. There are a number of us here in the Southern Tier and Finger Lakes regions that are appalled with crow hunts. It is killing fo

Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release

2014-03-20 Thread Stella Miller
for Man." Thomas Lovejoy From: Colleen / spider99 To: Stella Miller Cc: NYSBIRDS-L Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release Please don't lump all of us who live "upstate" together.  There are a number of us here in th

Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release

2014-03-20 Thread Colleen / spider99
rkin Cc: NYSBIRDS-L Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release Hi, I had to run out today right after the press release was sent to me. I did not get a chance to read it until now and see the error. Will is absolutely correct, fol

Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release

2014-03-20 Thread Stella Miller
From: Christina Wilkinson To: nysbirds-l Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release The press release is being corrected. And it's not really that big of a deal because press releases are just used by the press for quotes.  It's usually not d

Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release

2014-03-20 Thread Stella Miller
From: Will Raup To: Linda Orkin Cc: Stella Miller ; NYSBIRDS-L Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:57 PM Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release Because the people who live where this hunt is taking place, will ignore it.   They don't care what a Senator from Q

Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release

2014-03-20 Thread Christina Wilkinson
- From: "Will Raup" To: "Linda Orkin" Cc: "Stella Miller" , "NYSBIRDS-L" Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:57:42 PM Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release Because the people who live where this hunt is taking place, will ignore it. They don't car

RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release

2014-03-20 Thread Will Raup
u, 20 Mar 2014 07:11:02 -0700 From: stella.mille...@yahoo.com Subject: [nysbirds-l] Press release To: NYSBirds-L@cornell.edu Attached is the press release regarding the legislation. Thanks, Stella "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whoopin

Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release

2014-03-20 Thread Linda Orkin
rk City. > > The statement may seem minor, but many will stop reading after that > particular sentence. And you can bet the opposition will use that to their > advantage. > > Will Raup > Albany, NY > > -- > Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 07:11:02 -070

RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-03-20 Thread Voisine, Matthew NAN02
ursday, 20 March, 2014 14:11 To: Stella Miller; NYSBIRDS-L Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release Sadly the fact the Senator used the term "New York City DEC", means it will be ignored. It should be edited immediately to say New York State DEC, otherwise this will be

RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release

2014-03-20 Thread Will Raup
at is going on north of New York City. The statement may seem minor, but many will stop reading after that particular sentence. And you can bet the opposition will use that to their advantage. Will RaupAlbany, NY Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 07:11:02 -0700 From: stella.mille...@yahoo.com Subject: [nysbi

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2014-03-20 Thread Stella Miller
hoice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy From: Rick & Linda Kedenburg To: Stella Miller Cc: NYS Birds Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release

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2014-03-20 Thread Rick & Linda Kedenburg
Thank you Stella. If we as a birding community want to see this through I urge members of this list-serve to attach the press release to an email and send it along with your thoughts to your own state legislators. I just did. Thank you for you consideration. Respectfully yours, Rick On Mar

[nysbirds-l] Press release

2014-03-20 Thread Stella Miller
Attached is the press release regarding the legislation.  Thanks,  Stella   "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places

[nysbirds-l] Press release

2014-03-20 Thread Stella Miller
Attached is the press release regarding the legislation.  Thanks,  Stella   Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or

Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release

2014-03-20 Thread Rick Linda Kedenburg
Thank you Stella. If we as a birding community want to see this through I urge members of this list-serve to attach the press release to an email and send it along with your thoughts to your own state legislators. I just did. Thank you for you consideration. Respectfully yours, Rick On Mar

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2014-03-20 Thread Stella Miller
, 2014 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release Thank you Stella. If we as a birding community want to see this through I urge members of this list-serve to attach the press release to an email and send it along with your thoughts to your own state legislators. I just did. Thank you

RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-03-20 Thread Voisine, Matthew NAN02
March, 2014 14:11 To: Stella Miller; NYSBIRDS-L Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release Sadly the fact the Senator used the term New York City DEC, means it will be ignored. It should be edited immediately to say New York State DEC, otherwise this will be dismissed by upstate residents

RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release

2014-03-20 Thread Will Raup
, 20 Mar 2014 07:11:02 -0700 From: stella.mille...@yahoo.com Subject: [nysbirds-l] Press release To: NYSBirds-L@cornell.edu Attached is the press release regarding the legislation. Thanks, Stella Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes

Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release

2014-03-20 Thread Stella Miller
: Will Raup hoaryredp...@hotmail.com To: Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com Cc: Stella Miller stella.mille...@yahoo.com; NYSBIRDS-L nysbirds-l@cornell.edu Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:57 PM Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release Because the people who live where this hunt is taking place

Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release

2014-03-20 Thread Stella Miller
: Christina Wilkinson nutrich...@rcn.com To: nysbirds-l nysbirds-l@cornell.edu Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release The press release is being corrected. And it's not really that big of a deal because press releases are just used by the press for quotes

Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release

2014-03-20 Thread Stella Miller
From: Colleen / spider99 spide...@stny.rr.com To: Stella Miller stella.mille...@yahoo.com Cc: NYSBIRDS-L nysbirds-l@cornell.edu Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release Please don't lump all of us who live upstate together.  There are a number of us

RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release

2014-03-20 Thread Will Raup
@cornell.edu Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 15:36:22 -0400 Please don't lump all of us who live upstate together. There are a number of us here in the Southern Tier and Finger Lakes regions that are appalled with crow hunts. It is killing for the sake

Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release

2014-03-20 Thread Stella Miller
nysbirds-l@cornell.edu Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:51 PM Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release That's not the case at all.  Maybe I'm not being clear. However the People who ARE participating in this event, already distrust and dislike NYS Government as it is.  Again, it's all about

Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release

2014-03-20 Thread Rick Linda Kedenburg
or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy From: Colleen / spider99 spide...@stny.rr.com To: Stella Miller stella.mille...@yahoo.com Cc: NYSBIRDS-L nysbirds-l@cornell.edu Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release Please don't lump all of us who live upstate

Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release

2014-03-20 Thread Stella Miller
: Larry Federman birderla...@verizon.net To: Rick Linda Kedenburg kedenb...@optonline.net; Stella Miller stella.mille...@yahoo.com Cc: Colleen / spider99 spide...@stny.rr.com; NYSBIRDS-L nysbirds-l@cornell.edu Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release Since my