Re: [nysbirds-l] ADMIN: eList and DMARC Policies

2018-11-22 Thread Gus Keri 
Hi, Chris

I noticed that when I send an email to this list from home, it goes through. 
But when I send it from the field by cellular phone, sometimes it goes through 
and sometimes it doesn't. Does it have something to do with the location where 
I am sending it from? 

Gus

Sent using Zoho Mail


  On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 08:52:41 -0800 Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes 
 wrote  
 >Hi Jeanne, et. al., 
 >   It appears that you may not be receiving messages posted by you because of 
 > Yahoo’s DMARC policy. I’m not sure if you are familiar with DMARC policies 
 > implemented by email service providers since 2014 (which you can read more 
 > about here: https://help.yahoo.com/kb/SLN24050.html and here: 
 > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMARC), but these policy changes are an 
 > attempt to curb spam. One downside to DMARC policy implementation is that 
 > sometimes a legitimate email message will get flagged  as spam and won’t get 
 > delivered to a recipient. One of the DMARC policies used by DMARC-compliant 
 > email service providers, such as Yahoo, may result in a message getting 
 > flagged if, for example, it originated from a Yahoo email address, but did 
 > not appear  to originate from the Yahoo email server. 
 >   In the case of messages sent to the NYSbirds-L eList, all messages come in 
 > to Cornell’s Lyris Listmanager server from a sender’s email service provider 
 > (i.e., domain = @yahoo.com), which then gets redirected  out from Cornell’s 
 > Lyris Listmanager server (domain = @list.cornell.edu) to all subscribed 
 > email addresses (currently 1,255 subscribers). This process makes the 
 > original recipient email address server and the  “sender’s” email address 
 > server different. When the message is attempted to be delivered to a 
 > DMARC-compliant email service provider, especially if the recipient has the 
 > same email service provider as the original sender’s (i.e., Yahoo), then  
 > the message gets flagged, rejected, and fails delivery. 
 >   Here’s a good graphic that visually demonstrates this process: 
 > https://www.proofpoint.com/sites/default/files/pftp-dmarc-blog-healthcare-2.png
 >  
 >   One approach to work around this DMARC spam filtering is to arrange with 
 > your Internet Service Provider to whitelist any messages coming from the 
 > @list.cornell.edu domain. 
 >   Here are some useful links: 
 >   
 > https://www.thebalancecareers.com/how-do-i-whitelist-email-sender-or-a-domain-in-yahoo-mail-3515043
 >  
 >   http://onlinegroups.net/blog/2014/02/25/how-to-whitelist-an-email-address/ 
 >   https://itstillworks.com/add-domain-names-safe-lists-yahoo-20269.html 
 >   While I know how frustrating this may be, hopefully this is helpful in 
 > explaining the root cause and I apologize that some subscribers are having 
 > these or similar issues. 
 >   Sincerely, Chris Tessaglia-Hymes 
 >   NYSbirds-L eList Owner Ithaca, NY 
 >   
 > On Nov 22, 2018, at 8:54 AM, Jeanne  wrote: 
 >  I posted a lapland long spur yesterday along with snow buntings and horned 
 > larks. It was never posted!! But they posted my question immediatly? Lmao
 >  
 >  Sent from Yahoo Mail  on Android -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and 
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 >  --  Chris Tessaglia-Hymes  Listowner, NYSbirds-L  Ithaca, New York 
 > c...@cornell.edu NYSbirds-L – Archives
 >  NYSbirds-L – Welcome and Basics
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Re: [nysbirds-l] ADMIN: eList and DMARC Policies

2018-11-22 Thread Gus Keri 
Hi, Chris

I noticed that when I send an email to this list from home, it goes through. 
But when I send it from the field by cellular phone, sometimes it goes through 
and sometimes it doesn't. Does it have something to do with the location where 
I am sending it from? 

Gus

Sent using Zoho Mail


  On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 08:52:41 -0800 Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes 
 wrote  
 >Hi Jeanne, et. al., 
 >   It appears that you may not be receiving messages posted by you because of 
 > Yahoo’s DMARC policy. I’m not sure if you are familiar with DMARC policies 
 > implemented by email service providers since 2014 (which you can read more 
 > about here: https://help.yahoo.com/kb/SLN24050.html and here: 
 > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMARC), but these policy changes are an 
 > attempt to curb spam. One downside to DMARC policy implementation is that 
 > sometimes a legitimate email message will get flagged  as spam and won’t get 
 > delivered to a recipient. One of the DMARC policies used by DMARC-compliant 
 > email service providers, such as Yahoo, may result in a message getting 
 > flagged if, for example, it originated from a Yahoo email address, but did 
 > not appear  to originate from the Yahoo email server. 
 >   In the case of messages sent to the NYSbirds-L eList, all messages come in 
 > to Cornell’s Lyris Listmanager server from a sender’s email service provider 
 > (i.e., domain = @yahoo.com), which then gets redirected  out from Cornell’s 
 > Lyris Listmanager server (domain = @list.cornell.edu) to all subscribed 
 > email addresses (currently 1,255 subscribers). This process makes the 
 > original recipient email address server and the  “sender’s” email address 
 > server different. When the message is attempted to be delivered to a 
 > DMARC-compliant email service provider, especially if the recipient has the 
 > same email service provider as the original sender’s (i.e., Yahoo), then  
 > the message gets flagged, rejected, and fails delivery. 
 >   Here’s a good graphic that visually demonstrates this process: 
 > https://www.proofpoint.com/sites/default/files/pftp-dmarc-blog-healthcare-2.png
 >  
 >   One approach to work around this DMARC spam filtering is to arrange with 
 > your Internet Service Provider to whitelist any messages coming from the 
 > @list.cornell.edu domain. 
 >   Here are some useful links: 
 >   
 > https://www.thebalancecareers.com/how-do-i-whitelist-email-sender-or-a-domain-in-yahoo-mail-3515043
 >  
 >   http://onlinegroups.net/blog/2014/02/25/how-to-whitelist-an-email-address/ 
 >   https://itstillworks.com/add-domain-names-safe-lists-yahoo-20269.html 
 >   While I know how frustrating this may be, hopefully this is helpful in 
 > explaining the root cause and I apologize that some subscribers are having 
 > these or similar issues. 
 >   Sincerely, Chris Tessaglia-Hymes 
 >   NYSbirds-L eList Owner Ithaca, NY 
 >   
 > On Nov 22, 2018, at 8:54 AM, Jeanne  wrote: 
 >  I posted a lapland long spur yesterday along with snow buntings and horned 
 > larks. It was never posted!! But they posted my question immediatly? Lmao
 >  
 >  Sent from Yahoo Mail  on Android -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and 
 > Basics  Rules and Information  Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: 
 > The Mail Archive Surfbirds ABA Please submit your observations to eBird! --  
 >  
 >  --  Chris Tessaglia-Hymes  Listowner, NYSbirds-L  Ithaca, New York 
 > c...@cornell.edu NYSbirds-L – Archives
 >  NYSbirds-L – Welcome and Basics
 >  NYSbirds-L – Rules and Information
 >   NYSbirds-L – Subscribe, Configuration and  Leave
 >--   NYSbirds-L List Info:   Welcome and BasicsRules 
 > and InformationSubscribe, Configuration and Leave   Archives:
 >The Mail Archive   Surfbirds   ABA   Please submit your 
 > observations to eBird!   --   


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[nysbirds-l] ADMIN: eList and DMARC Policies

2018-11-22 Thread Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes 
Hi Jeanne, et. al.,

It appears that you may not be receiving messages posted by you because of 
Yahoo’s DMARC policy. I’m not sure if you are familiar with DMARC policies 
implemented by email service providers since 2014 (which you can read more 
about here: https://help.yahoo.com/kb/SLN24050.html and here: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMARC), but these policy changes are an attempt 
to curb spam. One downside to DMARC policy implementation is that sometimes a 
legitimate email message will get flagged as spam and won’t get delivered to a 
recipient. One of the DMARC policies used by DMARC-compliant email service 
providers, such as Yahoo, may result in a message getting flagged if, for 
example, it originated from a Yahoo email address, but did not appear to 
originate from the Yahoo email server.

In the case of messages sent to the NYSbirds-L eList, all messages come in to 
Cornell’s Lyris Listmanager server from a sender’s email service provider 
(i.e., domain = @yahoo.com), which then gets redirected out 
from Cornell’s Lyris Listmanager server (domain = 
@list.cornell.edu) to all subscribed email addresses 
(currently 1,255 subscribers). This process makes the original recipient email 
address server and the “sender’s” email address server different. When the 
message is attempted to be delivered to a DMARC-compliant email service 
provider, especially if the recipient has the same email service provider as 
the original sender’s (i.e., Yahoo), then the message gets flagged, rejected, 
and fails delivery.

Here’s a good graphic that visually demonstrates this process: 
https://www.proofpoint.com/sites/default/files/pftp-dmarc-blog-healthcare-2.png

One approach to work around this DMARC spam filtering is to arrange with your 
Internet Service Provider to whitelist any messages coming from the 
@list.cornell.edu domain.

Here are some useful links:

https://www.thebalancecareers.com/how-do-i-whitelist-email-sender-or-a-domain-in-yahoo-mail-3515043

http://onlinegroups.net/blog/2014/02/25/how-to-whitelist-an-email-address/

https://itstillworks.com/add-domain-names-safe-lists-yahoo-20269.html

While I know how frustrating this may be, hopefully this is helpful in 
explaining the root cause and I apologize that some subscribers are having 
these or similar issues.

Sincerely,
Chris Tessaglia-Hymes

NYSbirds-L eList Owner
Ithaca, NY


On Nov 22, 2018, at 8:54 AM, Jeanne 
mailto:dylansmom...@yahoo.com>> wrote:

I posted a lapland long spur yesterday along with snow buntings and horned 
larks. It was never posted!! But they posted my question immediatly? Lmao

Sent from Yahoo Mail on 
Android
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Welcome and Basics
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Leave
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Ithaca, New York
c...@cornell.edu
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Basics
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[nysbirds-l] ADMIN: eList and DMARC Policies

2018-11-22 Thread Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes 
Hi Jeanne, et. al.,

It appears that you may not be receiving messages posted by you because of 
Yahoo’s DMARC policy. I’m not sure if you are familiar with DMARC policies 
implemented by email service providers since 2014 (which you can read more 
about here: https://help.yahoo.com/kb/SLN24050.html and here: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMARC), but these policy changes are an attempt 
to curb spam. One downside to DMARC policy implementation is that sometimes a 
legitimate email message will get flagged as spam and won’t get delivered to a 
recipient. One of the DMARC policies used by DMARC-compliant email service 
providers, such as Yahoo, may result in a message getting flagged if, for 
example, it originated from a Yahoo email address, but did not appear to 
originate from the Yahoo email server.

In the case of messages sent to the NYSbirds-L eList, all messages come in to 
Cornell’s Lyris Listmanager server from a sender’s email service provider 
(i.e., domain = @yahoo.com), which then gets redirected out 
from Cornell’s Lyris Listmanager server (domain = 
@list.cornell.edu) to all subscribed email addresses 
(currently 1,255 subscribers). This process makes the original recipient email 
address server and the “sender’s” email address server different. When the 
message is attempted to be delivered to a DMARC-compliant email service 
provider, especially if the recipient has the same email service provider as 
the original sender’s (i.e., Yahoo), then the message gets flagged, rejected, 
and fails delivery.

Here’s a good graphic that visually demonstrates this process: 
https://www.proofpoint.com/sites/default/files/pftp-dmarc-blog-healthcare-2.png

One approach to work around this DMARC spam filtering is to arrange with your 
Internet Service Provider to whitelist any messages coming from the 
@list.cornell.edu domain.

Here are some useful links:

https://www.thebalancecareers.com/how-do-i-whitelist-email-sender-or-a-domain-in-yahoo-mail-3515043

http://onlinegroups.net/blog/2014/02/25/how-to-whitelist-an-email-address/

https://itstillworks.com/add-domain-names-safe-lists-yahoo-20269.html

While I know how frustrating this may be, hopefully this is helpful in 
explaining the root cause and I apologize that some subscribers are having 
these or similar issues.

Sincerely,
Chris Tessaglia-Hymes

NYSbirds-L eList Owner
Ithaca, NY


On Nov 22, 2018, at 8:54 AM, Jeanne 
mailto:dylansmom...@yahoo.com>> wrote:

I posted a lapland long spur yesterday along with snow buntings and horned 
larks. It was never posted!! But they posted my question immediatly? Lmao

Sent from Yahoo Mail on 
Android
--
NYSbirds-L List Info:
Welcome and Basics
Rules and Information
Subscribe, Configuration and 
Leave
Archives:
The Mail 
Archive
Surfbirds
ABA
Please submit your observations to eBird!
--

--
Chris Tessaglia-Hymes
Listowner, NYSbirds-L
Ithaca, New York
c...@cornell.edu
NYSbirds-L – 
Archives
NYSbirds-L – Welcome and 
Basics
NYSbirds-L – Rules and 
Information
NYSbirds-L – Subscribe, Configuration and 
Leave


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ARCHIVES:
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2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
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