[oauth] Re: Need for timestamp and nonce over HTTPS

2009-10-05 Thread Allen Tom
beckett wrote: But if you just use PLAINTEXT you as Yahoo! Contacts have absolutely no idea if its REALLY PLAXO at the other end. It is trivial for any site to get user to give up data. In which case you might as well not use OAUTH and just make your data publicly available period. So I

[oauth] Re: Need for timestamp and nonce over HTTPS

2009-10-05 Thread beckett
Again, as I acknowledged in response to Richard's point, I was wrong in assuming that HMAC offers any more protection then PLAINTEXT for the sort of attacks I had in mind. You are quite right, it does not. My apologies. Hopefully by broader point did not get lost. Also, I wonder if in the

[oauth] Re: Need for timestamp and nonce over HTTPS

2009-10-05 Thread beckett
Again, as I acknowledged in response to Richard's point, I was wrong in assuming that HMAC offers any more protection then PLAINTEXT for the sort of attacks I had in mind. You are quite right, it does not. My apologies. Hopefully by broader point did not get lost. Also, I wonder if in the

[oauth] Re: Need for timestamp and nonce over HTTPS

2009-10-05 Thread Allen Tom
Yes, I agree, the wording could be rephrased to indicate that the Consumer's credentials (the consumer secret) as well as the user credentials Access Token (and access token secret) are not protected when using PLAINTEXT without HTTPS. Allen beckett wrote: Also, I wonder if in the

[oauth] Re: Need for timestamp and nonce over HTTPS

2009-10-05 Thread prashant kulkarni
Thanks a lot folks for all your inputs. It sounds like as long as I use SSL the right way, there is no apparent danger of using PLAINTEXT even though I discard the check for timestamp and nonce. I am trying to make it easy on our consumers to use our APIs using OAuth. It sounds like using HTTPS

[oauth] YAuth is not OAuth

2009-10-05 Thread Pelle Braendgaard
Hi Guys, I am not trying to troll with this post, but I do feel that this is very important if we don't want OAuth to fragment. I have intentionally been avoiding work with Yahoo's OAuth implementation until a client of mine asked me to do so. Doing that I've been working on Yahoo support in the

[oauth] Re: YAuth is not OAuth

2009-10-05 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
I rarely speak on behalf of Yahoo! but I find this post misleading and unnecessarily negative. I was not working for Yahoo! at the time most of this took place. Yahoo! approached the community soon after the OAuth specification was completed to find ways to accommodate their unique