Re: [OAUTH-WG] Looking for a compromise on signatures and other open issues

2010-09-28 Thread Manger, James H
Sounds great Eran, 1. Add a parameter to the token response to include an extensible token scheme. Yes. I suggest a parameter named scheme. The value can be an HTTP authentication scheme name (eg scheme:BASIC) for which the response is providing credentials. Not all possibilities are

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Basic signature support in the core specification

2010-09-28 Thread Justin Richer
Yes, I'm willing to write guides for the profiles that I use, once things settle down and we know what the protocol actually is. :) I'd argue that Facebook's developer docs are a start for bearer tokens using the UX extension and web server/user agent profiles already. I think that the most

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Looking for a compromise on signatures and other open issues

2010-09-28 Thread Justin Richer
+1 on the split. I think it's an elegant approach, and it won't be any harder to follow than a monolithic spec with multiple optional sections. Especially if we put together the right guidance as a gateway to the spec. OAuth 1.0 (and -a) really talk about three different things: how to get a

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Signatures...what are we trying to solve?

2010-09-28 Thread George Fletcher
I think of the signature issues as falling into two classes... I think they map to your classification as well... * *Signing tokens* is important for interoperability especially looking forward to a time when tokens issued by multiple Authorization Servers are accepted at a given

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Looking for a compromise on signatures and other open issues

2010-09-28 Thread George Fletcher
+1 I think this is a great path forward On 9/28/10 2:25 AM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: (Please take a break from the other threads and read this with an open mind. I have tried to make this both informative and balanced.) --- IETF Process For those unfamiliar with the IETF process, we

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Looking for a compromise on signatures and other open issues

2010-09-28 Thread Luke Shepard
Eran- Thanks for writing a great explanation of where we are so far. I agree that it makes sense to logically separate getting a token from using a token, and we should structure it so that there can be extension specs about how to use a token. It also seems clear that we should do some more

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Signatures...what are we trying to solve?

2010-09-28 Thread Zeltsan, Zachary (Zachary)
These use cases are not in the draft https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zeltsan-use-cases-oauth. Could you write them up? Thanks, Zachary From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of George Fletcher Sent: Tuesday, September 28,

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Looking for a compromise on signatures and other open issues

2010-09-28 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: Luke Shepard [mailto:lshep...@facebook.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 9:16 AM As far as the charter: this workgroup has had a focus on building an interoperable, easy-to-use, developer-friendly standard that is actually used. With the goal of

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Signatures...what are we trying to solve?

2010-09-28 Thread William Mills
* Is there an example of an OAuth 2.0 server that can't use bearer tokens for protected resource requests and thus requires signatures? The use case I see for signatures that isn't solved (as well) by tokens is 3 way integrations where it is useful to manage a secret as a way to manage the

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Looking for a compromise on signatures and other open issues

2010-09-28 Thread Brian Campbell
+1 seems like a pragmatic compromise On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Marius Scurtescu mscurte...@google.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:05 AM, George Fletcher gffle...@aol.com wrote: +1 I think this is a great path forward +1 Marius ___

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Looking for a compromise on signatures and other open issues

2010-09-28 Thread John Panzer
+1. -- John Panzer / Google jpan...@google.com / abstractioneer.org http://www.abstractioneer.org/ / @jpanzer On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav e...@hueniverse.comwrote: (Please take a break from the other threads and read this with an open mind. I have tried to make this

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Looking for a compromise on signatures and other open issues

2010-09-28 Thread Keenan, Bill
+1 Eran, thanks for framing this up... On Sep 28, 2010, at 12:14 PM, Brian Campbell wrote: +1 seems like a pragmatic compromise On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Marius Scurtescu mscurte...@google.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:05 AM, George Fletcher gffle...@aol.com wrote: +1 I

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Looking for a compromise on signatures and other open issues

2010-09-28 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 9/28/10 12:25 AM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: (Please take a break from the other threads and read this with an open mind. I have tried to make this both informative and balanced.) --- IETF Process For those unfamiliar with the IETF process, we operate using rough consensus. This means

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Looking for a compromise on signatures and other open issues

2010-09-28 Thread Lu, Hui-Lan (Huilan)
+1 The proposal makes sense. I particularly like the side effect that the use of access tokens is no longer bound to HTTP. Hui-Lan Lu From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eran Hammer-Lahav Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Looking for a compromise on signatures and other open issues

2010-09-28 Thread Lu, Hui-Lan (Huilan)
+1 The proposal makes sense. I particularly like the good side effect that the use of access tokens is no longer bound to HTTP. Hui-Lan Lu From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eran Hammer-Lahav Sent: Tuesday, September 28,

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Looking for a compromise on signatures and other open issues

2010-09-28 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: Dick Hardt [mailto:dick.ha...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 5:09 PM I am mildly concerned that breaking the spec into multiple parts makes it harder for the spec reader to understand what is going on. Where does a complete example of getting