Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-mills-kitten-sasl-oauth-01.txt

2011-02-16 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Yes, I think the kitten list is the right place: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/kitten But it would be good for OAuth folks to review the spec and post their comments on the kitten list (or directly to the authors). /psa On 2/16/11 5:28 PM, William Mills wrote: > I'm happy (ecstatic, hop

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-mills-kitten-sasl-oauth-01.txt

2011-02-16 Thread William Mills
I'm happy (ecstatic, hopeful, yearning) to take comments, although I guess the etiquette is that it should happen on the Kitten WG mailing list? -bill > -Original Message- > From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Peter Saint-Andre > Sent: Wednesday

[OAUTH-WG] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-mills-kitten-sasl-oauth-01.txt

2011-02-16 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Just saw this come across the wire... Original Message Subject: I-D Action:draft-mills-kitten-sasl-oauth-01.txt Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:45:01 -0800 From: internet-dra...@ietf.org Reply-To: internet-dra...@ietf.org To: i-d-annou...@ietf.org A New Internet-Draft is available fro

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -12 feedback deadline

2011-02-16 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Feel free to propose alternative preamble for the implicit and authorization code sections, describing the characteristics of what they are good for. It should fit in a single paragraph. Such a proposal would fit right in with last call feedback to -13. EHL > -Original Message- > From:

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -12 feedback deadline

2011-02-16 Thread Marius Scurtescu
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: > The reason why we don't return a refresh token in the implicit grant is > exactly because there is no client authentication... Not sure that's the main reason. AFAIK it is because the response is sent through the user-agent and it coul

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -12 feedback deadline

2011-02-16 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
The reason why we don't return a refresh token in the implicit grant is exactly because there is no client authentication... These are all well-balanced flows with specific security properties. If you need something else, even if it is just a tweak, it must be considered a different flow. That d

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -12 feedback deadline

2011-02-16 Thread Justin Richer
The implicit grant still requires a redirect of some kind, so many native apps can just as easily use the web server flow as the implicit flow. I personally don't see how the implicit flow is better suited than the web flow in this case. However, neither of these are ideally suited for native a

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -12 feedback deadline

2011-02-16 Thread Brian Campbell
Exactly Marius, and in most cases the app will want to procure a refresh token as a result of the dance so it won't have to put the user though the authorization process again and again. Unless I'm mistaken, the implicit grant provides no means of obtaining a refresh token (http://tools.ietf.org/h

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -12 feedback deadline

2011-02-16 Thread Marius Scurtescu
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:06 AM, William Mills wrote: > Token endpoint with username/password credential doesn't solve this?  Depends > on the auth scheme of course, but Bearer should provide a solution? Not at all, in most case native apps must use the browser based 3-legged dance. Marius ___

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -12 feedback deadline

2011-02-16 Thread William Mills
Token endpoint with username/password credential doesn't solve this? Depends on the auth scheme of course, but Bearer should provide a solution? > -Original Message- > From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Marius Scurtescu > Sent: Wednesday, February

[OAUTH-WG] -13 4.3.2: internationalization consideration for username and password

2011-02-16 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Unless someone provides a proposed text to address internationalization consideration for username and password, I am going to remove this note unaddressed. EHL ___ OAuth mailing list OAuth@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth

[OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-13.txt

2011-02-16 Thread Internet-Drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Open Authentication Protocol Working Group of the IETF. Title : The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Protocol Author(s) : E. Hammer-Lahav, et al. Filena

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -12 feedback deadline

2011-02-16 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Yes. > -Original Message- > From: Marius Scurtescu [mailto:mscurte...@google.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 10:58 AM > To: Eran Hammer-Lahav > Cc: OAuth WG > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -12 feedback deadline > > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Eran Hammer-Lahav > wrote: >

[OAUTH-WG] Working group last call request for: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-13

2011-02-16 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Draft -13 includes all feedback received (unless was noted otherwise on the list) to date. It does not include any implementation changes since -12. Given the stable state of this draft and the lack of any blocking issues raised for the included text, I would like to officially request the chair

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -12 feedback deadline

2011-02-16 Thread Marius Scurtescu
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Marius Scurtescu [mailto:mscurte...@google.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 9:05 AM > >> Yes, I understand. But Native Apps have no appropriate flow now, and they >> started the whole pr

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -12 feedback deadline

2011-02-16 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
> -Original Message- > From: Marius Scurtescu [mailto:mscurte...@google.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 9:05 AM > Yes, I understand. But Native Apps have no appropriate flow now, and they > started the whole protocol. I am not sure "they started the whole protocol" (it was mor

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Missing Client Credentials on Token Endpoint - Which Error Response?

2011-02-16 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
(a) is more appropriate. See -13 for revised language. EHL > -Original Message- > From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Stuebner, Christian (extern) > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 8:01 AM > To: 'oauth@ietf.org' > Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Missing Clie

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -12 feedback deadline

2011-02-16 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
> -Original Message- > From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Richer, Justin P. > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:05 PM > 1.2 > > "Tokens may be pure capabilities." To a non-security-engineer such as > myself, this bit reads very oddly on its own

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -12 feedback deadline

2011-02-16 Thread Marius Scurtescu
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Marius Scurtescu [mailto:mscurte...@google.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 12:09 PM >> To: Eran Hammer-Lahav >> Cc: OAuth WG >> Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -12 feedback deadline >> >> -

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -12 feedback deadline

2011-02-16 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
> -Original Message- > From: Skylar Woodward [mailto:sky...@kiva.org] > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 2:37 AM > -- 3.1.1, 4.1.2, and Out-of-Band flows > > It is an important consideration for us that clients that cannot capture a > redirect from the user-agent be able to use authenti

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -12 feedback deadline

2011-02-16 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
> -Original Message- > From: Marius Scurtescu [mailto:mscurte...@google.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 12:09 PM > To: Eran Hammer-Lahav > Cc: OAuth WG > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -12 feedback deadline > > - 4.1. Authorization Code. It is stated that authorization code is su

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -12 feedback deadline

2011-02-16 Thread Phil Hunt
Re: 4.3. This could be something to put in security considerations. Since there will be reasonable cases where for example a password hash is retained. And as indicated by Eran, this is a best practice rather then an inter-op issue. Phil phil.h...@oracle.com On 2011-02-16, at 8:34 AM, Eran

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Draft -12 feedback deadline

2011-02-16 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
> -Original Message- > From: Marius Scurtescu [mailto:mscurte...@google.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 12:09 PM > - 4.3. Resource Owner Password Credentials. The 3rd paragraph states that > the client MUST discard the credentials once it obtains an access token. I > think it SH

[OAUTH-WG] Missing Client Credentials on Token Endpoint - Which Error Response?

2011-02-16 Thread Stuebner, Christian (extern)
Hi all, I noticed a minor change in wording for the error response codes at the token endpoint (see citation below). But I'm still not sure how an authorization server is expected to behave in cases where he supports client password authentication via request parameters and HTTP Basic authentic