Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-30 Thread Thomas Broyer
One issue with Mike's proposal is that all RSs receiving the token would know all the scopes the token is valid for. Imagine an app requesting access to scopes allowing it to see your bank balance and retrieve your wish lists from another RS. It'll get it in the form of a Bearer token with those

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-30 Thread Sergey Beryozkin
+1. I've understood from what Justin said the idea is to introduce a standard way for RS to communicate to AS about the tokens issued by the AS. I think it is a good idea, I'd only not focus on the RS-to-3rd party AS communications because it complicates it a bit. Clearly it would be of

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-30 Thread Sergey Beryozkin
On 30/07/14 04:45, Eve Maler wrote: I would say that if an RS and AS are relatively tightly coupled and have established their trust off stage, then the RS will know where to go and how to interpret the results. +1. It is an obvious answer, there has to be a trust established between RS and AS.

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Symmetric Proof of Posession for Code Extension as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-30 Thread Naveen Agarwal
Yes, I support WG taking this on. On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Paul Madsen paul.mad...@gmail.com wrote: I support the WG taking this on On 7/28/14, 1:33 PM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: Hi all, during the IETF #90 OAuth WG meeting, there was strong consensus in adopting the OAuth

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-30 Thread John Bradley
This request for only those not at the F2F to add to the hum has gone a bit off the rails. For those not in the room there was discussion that the draft needed a method to deal with: - Multiple AS - Supporting the PoP specs - stopping clients or other interceptors of the token from

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-30 Thread Sergey Beryozkin
On 30/07/14 14:42, John Bradley wrote: This request for only those not at the F2F to add to the hum has gone a bit off the rails. Meaning you see too much feedback, is it bad, even if some of it may be off topic ? For those not in the room there was discussion that the draft needed a method

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-30 Thread John Bradley
No, that those of us who we're fallowing the instructions not to comment if our hum was recorded in the room, should not hold back given the nature of the thread has changed. It was also an indication to the char that the original intent of the thread to judge consensus is impacted by some

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-30 Thread Sergey Beryozkin
Hi John On 30/07/14 14:59, John Bradley wrote: No, that those of us who we're fallowing the instructions not to comment if our hum was recorded in the room, should not hold back given the nature of the thread has changed. It was also an indication to the char that the original intent of the

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Standardized error responses from protected resource endpoints

2014-07-30 Thread Brian Campbell
Take a look at RFC 6750 The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Framework: Bearer Token Usage - particularly section 3: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6750#section-3 which describes using the WWW-Authenticate response header field in response to a request with an invalid/insufficient/missing/etc token. On

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-30 Thread George Fletcher
Actually, I view this in a much simpler way. In today's environment there is a tight coupling between AS and RS. Each deployment has to develop it's own mechanism for dealing with understanding tokens (even if the AS and RS are in the same domain). The introspection spec solve probably 80+

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-30 Thread George Fletcher
Actually there is both:) There is a JWS that contains an opaque token from the partner AS. We introspect the opaque token with the partner at every JWS validation to ensure the authorization is still valid. This is a risk decisions agreed to by both parties. Obviously there are other ways to

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-30 Thread George Fletcher
+100 :) On 7/29/14, 8:52 PM, Justin Richer wrote: Reading through this thread, it appears very clear to me that the use cases are very well established by a number of existing implementers who want to work together to build a common standard. I see no reason to delay the work artificially by

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Standardized error responses from protected resource endpoints

2014-07-30 Thread Takahiko Kawasaki
Thank you very much. It is the specification for token_type=bearer but really useful. I'm ashamed of having forgotten the content of RFC 6750 although I had read it once before. Best Regards, Takahiko Kawasaki 2014-07-30 21:23 GMT+09:00 Brian Campbell bcampb...@pingidentity.com: Take a look at

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Symmetric Proof of Posession for Code Extension as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-30 Thread George Fletcher
Yes, I support add this as a WG work item. On 7/28/14, 1:33 PM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: Hi all, during the IETF #90 OAuth WG meeting, there was strong consensus in adopting the OAuth Symmetric Proof of Posession for Code Extension (draft-sakimura-oauth-tcse-03.txt) specification as an OAuth

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-30 Thread John Bradley
No worries. Some of the people in the F2F piling on with discussion derailed Hannes original question. during the IETF #90 OAuth WG meeting, there was strong consensus in adopting the OAuth Token Introspection (draft-richer-oauth-introspection-06.txt) specification as

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-30 Thread Anthony Nadalin
John this is for the people that did not hum at the face to face and not just for the people not at the face to face. Sent from my Windows Phone From: John Bradleymailto:ve7...@ve7jtb.com Sent: ‎7/‎30/‎2014 7:20 AM To: Sergey

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-30 Thread John Bradley
Interesting point. I defer to your greater hum experience:) On Jul 30, 2014, at 10:32 AM, Anthony Nadalin tony...@microsoft.com wrote: John this is for the people that did not hum at the face to face and not just for the people not at the face to face. Sent from my Windows Phone From:

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Symmetric Proof of Posession for Code Extension as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-30 Thread Phil Hunt
+1 Phil @independentid www.independentid.com phil.h...@oracle.com On Jul 30, 2014, at 7:15 AM, George Fletcher gffle...@aol.com wrote: Yes, I support add this as a WG work item. On 7/28/14, 1:33 PM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: Hi all, during the IETF #90 OAuth WG meeting, there was

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-30 Thread Brian Campbell
Will the minutes of the meeting be made available? Those might provide a little more context to those of us who were unable to attend. On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 10:14 AM, John Bradley ve7...@ve7jtb.com wrote: Interesting point. I defer to your greater hum experience:) On Jul 30, 2014, at 10:32