Re: [OAUTH-WG] [UNVERIFIED SENDER] Call for Adoption - OAuth Proof of Possession Tokens with HTTP Message Signature

2021-10-27 Thread Dick Hardt
08 PM > To: Richard Backman, Annabelle > Cc: David Waite; oauth > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] [UNVERIFIED SENDER] Call for Adoption - OAuth > Proof of Possession Tokens with HTTP Message Signature > > I have a use case for a self contained request that can be independently > ver

Re: [OAUTH-WG] [UNVERIFIED SENDER] Call for Adoption - OAuth Proof of Possession Tokens with HTTP Message Signature

2021-10-23 Thread Justin Richer
: Friday, October 22, 2021 6:08 PM To: Richard Backman, Annabelle Cc: David Waite; oauth Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] [UNVERIFIED SENDER] Call for Adoption - OAuth Proof of Possession Tokens with HTTP Message Signature I have a use case for a self contained request that can be independently verified

Re: [OAUTH-WG] [UNVERIFIED SENDER] Call for Adoption - OAuth Proof of Possession Tokens with HTTP Message Signature

2021-10-22 Thread Dick Hardt
I have a use case for a self contained request that can be independently verified by multiple parties. IE, not just have PoP at HTTP endpoint, but by components doing processing further down the line. It also provides non-repudiation. For example, a JWT that is sent as an HTTP payload includes

Re: [OAUTH-WG] [UNVERIFIED SENDER] Call for Adoption - OAuth Proof of Possession Tokens with HTTP Message Signature

2021-10-14 Thread Justin Richer
> On Oct 14, 2021, at 8:47 AM, Warren Parad > wrote: > > I feel like there are a bunch of pieces of the implementation fundamentally > missing here, so we are back to, as it is right now, the draft isn't > sufficient. Of course the draft isn’t sufficient for publication — that’s what the

Re: [OAUTH-WG] [UNVERIFIED SENDER] Call for Adoption - OAuth Proof of Possession Tokens with HTTP Message Signature

2021-10-14 Thread Warren Parad
I feel like there are a bunch of pieces of the implementation fundamentally missing here, so we are back to, as it is right now, the draft isn't sufficient. What prevents the signature from being used without this RFC? How do you do expect the symmetric key exchange to be oauth compliant? How does

Re: [OAUTH-WG] [UNVERIFIED SENDER] Call for Adoption - OAuth Proof of Possession Tokens with HTTP Message Signature

2021-10-13 Thread Richard Backman, Annabelle
Agreed with keeping DPoP simple, which was why I was asking if the proposal could indicate it was targeting some of these other use cases. It's clear from the feedback that the current draft does not clearly express these use cases. There is overlap with DPoP – on a technical level, Message

Re: [OAUTH-WG] [UNVERIFIED SENDER] Call for Adoption - OAuth Proof of Possession Tokens with HTTP Message Signature

2021-10-13 Thread Warren Parad
If keeping DPoP simple means we have to have come up with 10 different variants to handle all the different cases that it doesn't support, then it isn't keeping it simple, it is just pushing the problem forward to the implementers to figure out which set of RFCs to implement. I would agree with

Re: [OAUTH-WG] [UNVERIFIED SENDER] Call for Adoption - OAuth Proof of Possession Tokens with HTTP Message Signature

2021-10-13 Thread David Waite
> On Oct 13, 2021, at 12:26 PM, Richard Backman, Annabelle > wrote: > > Those issues that could be addressed without completely redesigning DPoP have > been discussed within the Working Group multiple times. (See quotes and > meeting notes references in my previous message) The authors