Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-30 Thread Thomas Broyer
-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item Decoding a token with a specific format wouldn't tell you whether the token is still live: it could have been revoked before its expiration. Le 30 juil. 2014 02:16, Mike Jones michael.jo

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-30 Thread Sergey Beryozkin
Hunt; Thomas Broyer *Cc:* oauth@ietf.org *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item We also have a use case where the AS is provided by a partner and the RS is provided by AOL. Being able to have a standardized way

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-30 Thread Sergey Beryozkin
mailto:t.bro...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, July 29, 2014 5:43 PM *To:* Mike Jones *Cc:* oauth@ietf.org mailto:oauth@ietf.org; George Fletcher; Phil Hunt *Subject:* RE: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-30 Thread John Bradley
Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item We also have a use case where the AS is provided by a partner and the RS is provided by AOL. Being able to have a standardized way of validating and getting data about the token from the AS would make our implementation much simpler as we

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-30 Thread Sergey Beryozkin
] *On Behalf Of *George Fletcher *Sent:* Tuesday, July 29, 2014 3:25 PM *To:* Phil Hunt; Thomas Broyer *Cc:* oauth@ietf.org *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item We also have a use case where the AS is provided

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-30 Thread John Bradley
[mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *George Fletcher *Sent:* Tuesday, July 29, 2014 3:25 PM *To:* Phil Hunt; Thomas Broyer *Cc:* oauth@ietf.org *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item We also have a use

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-30 Thread Sergey Beryozkin
@ietf.org *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item We also have a use case where the AS is provided by a partner and the RS is provided by AOL. Being able to have a standardized way of validating and getting data about

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-30 Thread George Fletcher
Actually, I view this in a much simpler way. In today's environment there is a tight coupling between AS and RS. Each deployment has to develop it's own mechanism for dealing with understanding tokens (even if the AS and RS are in the same domain). The introspection spec solve probably 80+

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-30 Thread George Fletcher
Broyer *Cc:* oauth@ietf.org *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item We also have a use case where the AS is provided by a partner and the RS is provided by AOL. Being able to have a standardized way of validating

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-30 Thread George Fletcher
Of *George Fletcher *Sent:* Tuesday, July 29, 2014 3:25 PM *To:* Phil Hunt; Thomas Broyer *Cc:* oauth@ietf.org *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item We also have a use case where the AS is provided by a partner

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-30 Thread John Bradley
: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item We also have a use case where the AS is provided by a partner and the RS is provided by AOL. Being able to have a standardized way of validating and getting data about the token from the AS would

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-30 Thread Anthony Nadalin
...@gmail.com Cc: oauth@ietf.orgmailto:oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item No worries. Some of the people in the F2F piling on with discussion derailed Hannes original question. during the IETF #90 OAuth WG

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-30 Thread John Bradley
: John Bradley Sent: ‎7/‎30/‎2014 7:20 AM To: Sergey Beryozkin Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item No worries. Some of the people in the F2F piling on with discussion derailed Hannes

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-30 Thread Brian Campbell
Beryozkin Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item No worries. Some of the people in the F2F piling on with discussion derailed Hannes original question. during the IETF #90 OAuth WG meeting

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-29 Thread George Fletcher
We also have a use case where the AS is provided by a partner and the RS is provided by AOL. Being able to have a standardized way of validating and getting data about the token from the AS would make our implementation much simpler as we can use the same mechanism for all Authorization

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-29 Thread Mike Jones
. -- Mike From: OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of George Fletcher Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 3:25 PM To: Phil Hunt; Thomas Broyer Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-29 Thread Thomas Broyer
] *On Behalf Of *George Fletcher *Sent:* Tuesday, July 29, 2014 3:25 PM *To:* Phil Hunt; Thomas Broyer *Cc:* oauth@ietf.org *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item We also have a use case where the AS is provided

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-29 Thread Mike Jones
for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item Decoding a token with a specific format wouldn't tell you whether the token is still live: it could have been revoked before its expiration. Le 30 juil. 2014 02:16, Mike Jones michael.jo...@microsoft.commailto:michael.jo

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-29 Thread Phil Hunt
Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item We also have a use case where the AS is provided by a partner and the RS is provided by AOL. Being able to have a standardized way of validating and getting data about the token from the AS would make our implementation much simpler as we

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-29 Thread Thomas Broyer
Broyer [mailto:t.bro...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, July 29, 2014 5:43 PM *To:* Mike Jones *Cc:* oauth@ietf.org; George Fletcher; Phil Hunt *Subject:* RE: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item Decoding a token with a specific

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-29 Thread Phil Hunt
] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item Decoding a token with a specific format wouldn't tell you whether the token is still live: it could have been revoked before its expiration. Le 30 juil. 2014 02:16, Mike Jones michael.jo

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-29 Thread Justin Richer
] *Sent:* Tuesday, July 29, 2014 5:43 PM *To:* Mike Jones *Cc:* oauth@ietf.org mailto:oauth@ietf.org; George Fletcher; Phil Hunt *Subject:* RE: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item Decoding a token with a specific

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-29 Thread Anthony Nadalin
to work on bearer tokens. From: OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Justin Richer Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 6:08 PM To: Phil Hunt; Thomas Broyer Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-29 Thread Phil Hunt
for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item Decoding a token with a specific format wouldn't tell you whether the token is still live: it could have been revoked before its expiration. Le 30 juil. 2014 02:16, Mike Jones michael.jo...@microsoft.com a écrit

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-29 Thread Eve Maler
@ietf.org; George Fletcher; Phil Hunt Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item Decoding a token with a specific format wouldn't tell you whether the token is still live: it could have been revoked before its expiration

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-29 Thread Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy)
Jones; Thomas Broyer Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item Not true if I revoke the token after it's been issued but before it expires. On 7/29/2014 8:49 PM, Mike Jones wrote: Yes, but that’s

[OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-28 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, during the IETF #90 OAuth WG meeting, there was strong consensus in adopting the OAuth Token Introspection (draft-richer-oauth-introspection-06.txt) specification as an OAuth WG work item. We would now like to verify the outcome of this call for adoption on the OAuth WG mailing list.

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-28 Thread Bill Mills
+1 adoption On Monday, July 28, 2014 11:41 AM, Hannes Tschofenig hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net wrote: Hi all, during the IETF #90 OAuth WG meeting, there was strong consensus in adopting the OAuth Token Introspection (draft-richer-oauth-introspection-06.txt) specification as an OAuth WG work

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-28 Thread Thomas Broyer
Yes. This spec is of special interest to the platform we're building for http://www.oasis-eu.org/ On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Hannes Tschofenig hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net wrote: Hi all, during the IETF #90 OAuth WG meeting, there was strong consensus in adopting the OAuth Token

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-28 Thread Phil Hunt
Could we have some discussion on the interop cases? Is it driven by scenarios where AS and resource are separate domains? Or may this be only of interest to specific protocols like UMA? From a technique principle, the draft is important and sound. I am just not there yet on the reasons for an

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-28 Thread Justin Richer
It's analogous to JWT in many ways: when you've got the AS and the RS separated somehow (different box, different domain, even different software vendor) and you need to communicate a set of information about the approval delegation from the AS (who has the context to know about it) through to

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-28 Thread Phil Hunt
That doesn’t explain the need for inter-operability. What you’ve described is what will be common practice. It’s a great open source technique, but that’s not a standard. JWT is much different. JWT is a foundational specification that describes the construction and parsing of JSON based

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Confirmation: Call for Adoption of OAuth Token Introspection as an OAuth Working Group Item

2014-07-28 Thread Justin Richer
I think this perspective has a lot to do with your idea of OAuth's deployment model. You're right in that many people bundle the RS and the AS very tightly, but that's not always case, nor is it desirable. We're increasingly seeing cases where a group (often an enterprise) has their own AS on