Re: [OAUTH-WG] signatures, v2

2010-07-23 Thread Dirk Balfanz
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 1:26 AM, Nat Sakimura sakim...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dirk, Inline: On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Dirk Balfanz balf...@google.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Torsten Lodderstedt tors...@lodderstedt.net wrote: Hi Dirk, I have some questions

Re: [OAUTH-WG] signatures, v2

2010-07-22 Thread Greg Brail
I apologize since I have a feeling that this decision was made long ago but I'd like to understand... OAuth 1.0 had a secret associated with every token and used an HMAC to generate the signature. So, there is no way for an intermediary to see the token secret, regardless of whether SSL is

Re: [OAUTH-WG] signatures, v2

2010-07-22 Thread Greg Brail
' *Subject:* RE: [OAUTH-WG] signatures, v2 I apologize since I have a feeling that this decision was made long ago but I'd like to understand... OAuth 1.0 had a secret associated with every token and used an HMAC to generate the signature. So, there is no way for an intermediary to see the token

Re: [OAUTH-WG] signatures, v2

2010-07-22 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Torsten Lodderstedt tors...@lodderstedt.net mailto:tors...@lodderstedt.net wrote: Hi Dirk, I have some questions concerning your proposal: - As far as I understand, the difference to magic signatures lays in the usage of a JSON token carrying

Re: [OAUTH-WG] signatures, v2

2010-07-21 Thread Nat Sakimura
Hi Dirk, Inline: On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Dirk Balfanz balf...@google.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Torsten Lodderstedt tors...@lodderstedt.net wrote: Hi Dirk, I have some questions concerning your proposal: - As far as I understand, the difference to magic

Re: [OAUTH-WG] signatures, v2

2010-07-21 Thread Nat Sakimura
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Nat Sakimura sakim...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dirk, Inline: On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Dirk Balfanz balf...@google.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Torsten Lodderstedt tors...@lodderstedt.net wrote: Hi Dirk, I have some questions

Re: [OAUTH-WG] signatures, v2

2010-07-21 Thread Ben Laurie
On 16 July 2010 01:43, Dirk Balfanz balf...@google.com wrote: Hi guys, after reading through the feedback, we did a pass over the OAuth signature proposals. As a reminder, there are three documents: - a document (called JSON Tokens) that just explains how to sign something and verify the

Re: [OAUTH-WG] signatures, v2

2010-07-21 Thread Nat Sakimura
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Ben Laurie b...@google.com wrote: On 16 July 2010 01:43, Dirk Balfanz balf...@google.com wrote: Hi guys, after reading through the feedback, we did a pass over the OAuth signature proposals. As a reminder, there are three documents: - a document (called JSON

Re: [OAUTH-WG] signatures, v2

2010-07-18 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
Hi Dirk, I have some questions concerning your proposal: - As far as I understand, the difference to magic signatures lays in the usage of a JSON token carrying issuer, not_before, not_after and audience. While such properties are important for security tokens (assertions), I cannot see an

Re: [OAUTH-WG] signatures, v2

2010-07-15 Thread Dick Hardt
On 2010-07-15, at 6:45 PM, Naitik Shah wrote: On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Dirk Balfanz balf...@google.com wrote: One question: What's the deal with having the signature go first? If you can explain to me why that is a good idea, I'm happy to oblige. When we were talking about