Re: [OAUTH-WG] ** OAuth Tutorial OAuth Security Session **

2010-11-09 Thread torsten
We think the security considerations should be based on a threat model of OAuth. But a complete threat model would blow up the spec. We therefore aim to produce a separate security document (informational I-D/RFC) covering threat model as well as security design and considerations. The

Re: [OAUTH-WG] [secdir] ** OAuth Tutorial OAuth Security Session **

2010-11-09 Thread Richard L. Barnes
I would say that the security considerations should be based on a model of OAuth. Start with a model of the protocol and the guarantees you want, then explain how to use security mechanisms to achieve those guarantees. I promised Hannes today to do a review of the current document (which I

[OAUTH-WG] JSON Token naming spec results at IIW on Wednesday

2010-11-09 Thread Mike Jones
We held a session on naming for JSON Web Tokens (JWTs) at IIW (Wednesday during Session 5 in space E), building upon the results from the JSON Tokenshttp://self-issued.info/?p=361 and No Base Stringhttp://iiw.idcommons.net/No_Base_String sessions on Tuesday and the JSON Token

[OAUTH-WG] [Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-richer-oauth-xml-00]

2010-11-09 Thread Justin Richer
XML encoding of JSON output values, for when you want to use OAuth with an XML API. It is my intent that this (and the instance draft) become working group items. -- Justin Forwarded Message From: IETF I-D Submission Tool idsubmiss...@ietf.org To: Richer, Justin P.

[OAUTH-WG] [Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-richer-oauth-instance-00]

2010-11-09 Thread Justin Richer
Client instance information - an update on Google's xoauth_display_name idea. -- Justin Forwarded Message From: IETF I-D Submission Tool idsubmiss...@ietf.org To: Richer, Justin P. jric...@mitre.org Subject: New Version Notification for draft-richer-oauth-instance-00 Date:

[OAUTH-WG] Security Writeups -- Re: [kitten] [secdir] ** OAuth Tutorial OAuth Security Session **

2010-11-09 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi Mark, Richard, and Torsten, there is certainly a very good piece of work available to us for getting the security consideration text pulled together. We still have to find out how to best tackle the work. We obviously cannot put an extended version of the current document into the security

[OAUTH-WG] JSON public key spec results at IIW on Thursday

2010-11-09 Thread Mike Jones
The final session at IIW related to JSON Web Tokens (JWTs) explored whether and how to represent public key information as JWTs or other JSON structures as an alternative to X.509 certificates. Thanks to Breno de Medeiros for taking noteshttp://iiw.idcommons.net/JSON_Spec_Work_continued, which

[OAUTH-WG] JSON Token spec work at IIW

2010-11-09 Thread Mike Jones
I've now finished my series of posts on the JSON token spec work that occurred at IIW. For reference, they are: - JSON Token Spec Results at IIW on Tuesday: http://self-issued.info/?p=361 - JSON Token Encryption Spec Results at IIW on Wednesday: http://self-issued.info/?p=378 - JSON

Re: [OAUTH-WG] [secdir] ** OAuth Tutorial OAuth Security Session **

2010-11-09 Thread Anthony Nadalin
Issue here is that guarantees (and what you want as a guarantee may not be what somebody else wants) can vary depending on scenario and deployment. -Original Message- From: Richard L. Barnes [mailto:rbar...@bbn.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 12:54 AM To: tors...@lodderstedt.net

Re: [OAUTH-WG] [secdir] ** OAuth Tutorial OAuth Security Session **

2010-11-09 Thread Richard L. Barnes
Of course not every scenario calls for all of the security knobs to be turned to 11. Think of things instead in terms of syllogisms: IF you want X guarantee, THEN you MUST do A, B, C. Then you can also read the same things backwards in a given deployment scenario: Given that I can't do B, I

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Security Writeups -- Re: [kitten] [secdir] ** OAuth Tutorial OAuth Security Session **

2010-11-09 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
Am 09.11.2010 16:51, schrieb Hannes Tschofenig: Hi Mark, Richard, and Torsten, there is certainly a very good piece of work available to us for getting the security consideration text pulled together. We still have to find out how to best tackle the work. We obviously cannot put an extended

Re: [OAUTH-WG] [secdir] ** OAuth Tutorial OAuth Security Session **

2010-11-09 Thread Igor Faynberg
(With apologies for bringing up a tangential matter...) Talking about the OAuth model, I still see here Client instead of Consumer. I thought there was an agreement on the terminology change. I have no specific preference for either term, but I think it is essential that our terminology be