Re: [OAUTH-WG] Defining a maximum token length?

2010-03-09 Thread Dick Hardt
On 2010-03-09, at 6:24 PM, Ethan Jewett wrote: I think it would make sense to advise client library and application programmers to provide for the possibility of and storage of large tokens. We should probably reference examples of tokens seen in the wild and mention the technical

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Defining a maximum token length?

2010-03-09 Thread Dick Hardt
a good thing to include. Ethan On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Dick Hardt dick.ha...@gmail.com wrote: On 2010-03-09, at 4:23 PM, Marius Scurtescu wrote: On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 3:50 PM, David Recordon record...@gmail.com wrote: Ideally we'd limit the length of access and refresh

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Defining a maximum token length?

2010-03-09 Thread Dick Hardt
On 2010-03-09, at 7:50 PM, David Recordon wrote: On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Dick Hardt dick.ha...@gmail.com wrote: I understand the desire to set a max length that can easily fit into a DB. There are lots of other items I think the developer is storing that can be long as well, like

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Signatures, Why?

2010-03-08 Thread Dick Hardt
On 2010-03-08, at 1:09 PM, John Kemp wrote: On Mar 8, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Dick Hardt wrote: 2) Client signed tokens are no more secure in MITM attacks than bearer tokens for on-the-fly attacks. If the attacker can disrupt the channel, the attacker can take the signed token and use

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Recent UMA work that may inform this group's deliberations

2010-03-08 Thread Dick Hardt
On 2010-03-05, at 6:57 AM, Eve Maler wrote: More below... On 4 Mar 2010, at 5:43 PM, Dick Hardt wrote: Thanks Eve, comments inserted ... On 2010-03-04, at 12:51 PM, Eve Maler wrote: As requested on today's call, here's a description of the places where UMA seems to need more than

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Signatures, Why?

2010-03-04 Thread Dick Hardt
On 2010-03-04, at 12:27 PM, Igor Faynberg wrote: Blaine Cook wrote: - Why are signatures needed? 1) For authentication 2) For ensuring integrity 3) For non-repudiation Those are the general capabilities of signatures. Why does the Client need to sign the request / token? is the

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Recent UMA work that may inform this group's deliberations

2010-03-04 Thread Dick Hardt
Hi Eve Looking at the WRAP oriented comments in the spec, here are some comments / questions: Note WRAP doesn't seem to say HTTPS is required for the user authorization URL; is this a bug in the WRAP spec? If not, is it a good idea for us to profile it in this way? Finally, is this the right

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Recent UMA work that may inform this group's deliberations

2010-03-04 Thread Dick Hardt
Thanks Eve, comments inserted ... On 2010-03-04, at 12:51 PM, Eve Maler wrote: As requested on today's call, here's a description of the places where UMA seems to need more than what the WRAP paradigm offers (both profiling and extending), based on the proposal at:

Re: [OAUTH-WG] proposed agenda for second interim meeting

2010-02-03 Thread Dick Hardt
On 2010-02-03, at 11:21 AM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eran Hammer-Lahav Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 11:19 AM To: Dick Hardt Cc: OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] proposed agenda

Re: [OAUTH-WG] proposed agenda for second interim meeting

2010-02-03 Thread Dick Hardt
On 2010-02-03, at 12:01 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: hat type='chair'/ On 2/3/10 12:46 PM, Dick Hardt wrote: Wanting to discuss technical details when there does not seem to be consensus on the problem we are solving was my Titanic reference. Remember, these interim meetings

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