[OAUTH-WG] Interim Meeting

2010-04-19 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, I put the info about the interim meeting on the WG Wiki page: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/oauth/trac/wiki/InterimMeeting I hope that the ongoing travel problems will be solved soon. We will have an OAuth WG session also at IETF#78. I will work with Eran on the remote participation.

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Interim Meeting

2010-04-19 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
I will work with Eran on this issue. Eliot Lear wrote: Hannes, Can we please ask impose on our hosts to provide a room that is suitable for conference calls? I would be happy to assist with WebEx arrangements. Eliot On 4/19/10 12:41 PM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: Hi all, I put the info

[OAUTH-WG] Reminder: OAuth Interim Meeting, 20th May

2010-05-17 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
This is a reminder of the OAuth interim meeting, which happens this Thursday, 20th May. The meeting venue is at Yahoo 701 First Ave Sunnyvale, CA 94089. Here is the info: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/oauth/trac/wiki/InterimMeeting Be advised to read the latest OAuth specification to benefit

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Updated Charter?

2010-07-02 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi Dorothy, interesting that you mention this. I had spoken with Blaine last week about the IETF meeting planning and we also had a chat about the need to have a new charter. We will need to get feedback from the working group members about the scope because the initially envisioned steps

[OAUTH-WG] OAuth Meeting Agenda

2010-07-21 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, please find the latest agenda at: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/78/agenda/oauth.txt Make sure that you read to provide input during the meeting: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-oauth-v2/ Ciao Hannes Blaine ___ OAuth mailing

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth session at IETF-79

2010-10-15 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi Torsten, there is no problem with skipping a meeting. This is done in other working groups as well. Ciao Hannes On Oct 15, 2010, at 2:22 PM, Eliot Lear wrote: On 10/15/10 1:13 PM, tors...@lodderstedt.net wrote: What is the alternative from your point of view? Continued use of

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth session at IETF-79

2010-10-24 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi David, I believe that there is lot of other work in the IETF with relevance to OAuth. For example, at this IETF meeting the topics of interest are: * Web related working groups in the APPS area. * Security area, including the recently created ABFAB working group (see

[OAUTH-WG] OAuth Security Session, Monday, November 8, 1300-1500

2010-10-27 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, We will start our conversations about Oauth security on Monday, November 8, 1300-1500. As a starting point I suggest to look at: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/oauth/trac/wiki/SecurityConsiderations http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/oauth/trac/wiki/SignaturesWhy

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Tutorial, Monday, November 8, 0900-1130

2010-10-27 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Melnikov alexey.melni...@isode.com wrote: Hannes Tschofenig wrote: Hi all, Based on the positive response at the last IETF meeting we decided to hold another Oauth tutorial, namely on Monday, November 8,0900-1130 I am sorry Hannes, but having this tutorial during the Apps Area open

Re: [OAUTH-WG] So back to use cases? (was RE: Call for Consensus on Document Split)

2010-10-28 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hey Tim, Earlier this year we had discussions around use cases but they did not lead to more insight. There is a document in the draft repository that talks about use cases, namely http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zeltsan-oauth-use-cases/ But it had never gotten a lot of attention on the

[OAUTH-WG] Yet another proposal: OAuth Tutorial, Wednesday, 19:30 - 21:00

2010-11-03 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
I am obviously not too lucky with this meeting. Now the social event was announced for Tuesday. So, yet another try: Wednesday, 19:30 (after the IETF Operations and Administration Plenary). Room will be announced. Ciao Hannes Begin forwarded message: From: Hannes Tschofenig

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Extensions

2010-11-04 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi Justin, I was planning to use the IETF meeting week (which is next week) to discuss the re-chartering of the working group with our ADs. I got some feedback from the group on what extensions are interesting for standardization. Ciao Hannes On Nov 4, 2010, at 2:15 AM, Richer, Justin P.

[OAUTH-WG] ** OAuth Tutorial OAuth Security Session **

2010-11-06 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, please consider attending the following two meetings! ** OAuth Security Session ** • Date: Monday, 13:00-15:00 • Location: IAB breakout room (Jade 2) • Contact: Hannes Tschofenig hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net The security consideration section of OAuth 2.0 (draft

[OAUTH-WG] Meeting Room for Security Session: Jade 2

2010-11-07 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
We will meet there in 13:00 (till 15:00). ___ OAuth mailing list OAuth@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Meeting Room for Security Session: Jade 2

2010-11-07 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
The security session is today, and the tutorial is on Wednesday. Details: http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/79bofs On Nov 8, 2010, at 1:21 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 11/8/10 7:57 AM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: We will meet there in 13:00 (till 15:00). Which day

[OAUTH-WG] 2nd OAuth Security Session, Thursday (18:10)

2010-11-08 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, at yesterday's security session we discussed ways on what to provide in the security consideration for the OAuth specifications. The plan was to have another session on Thursday, November 11th, starting at 18:10 at the IAB breakout room (Jade 2). We plan to go out for dinner

[OAUTH-WG] Security Writeups -- Re: [kitten] [secdir] ** OAuth Tutorial OAuth Security Session **

2010-11-09 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
, was your thought that you would produce a separate security analysis document? -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Torsten Lodderstedt Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 3:04 PM To: Hannes Tschofenig Cc: ab...@ietf.org; r...@ietf.org

[OAUTH-WG] We are in the Jade 2 room right now.

2010-11-11 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
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[OAUTH-WG] IETF#80: March 27-April 1, 2011

2011-01-09 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, we have just submitted a request for a meeting slot at the IETF#80 meeting. So, we will have an OAuth face-to-face meeting at the upcoming IETF in Prague. Please let us know whether you would like to give a presentation at the working group session. At previous IETF meetings some

Re: [OAUTH-WG] JSON Web Token (JWT) draft -01

2011-01-10 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
I was wondering whether there is some running code available as well? On Jan 5, 2011, at 4:31 AM, Mike Jones wrote: Draft -01 of the JSON Web Token (JWT) specification is now available. This version incorporates the consensus decisions reached at the Internet Identity Workshop. The

[OAUTH-WG] BOF about JSON Cryptographic Syntax and Processing

2011-01-10 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, Mike had posted a mail about version -01 of the JSON Web Token document: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/oauth/current/msg04912.html The usage of JSON and security applied to it became crucial to the work in OAuth. As we start our re-chartering it would be logical to add it to

[OAUTH-WG] Re-Chartering: What Items to work on?

2011-01-10 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, In preparing the charter text we need your feedback. First, the new charter needs to include the two new items we had already accepted, namely * SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Grant Type Profile for OAuth 2.0 http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-oauth-saml2-bearer/ * The OAuth 2.0

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials

2011-01-18 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi Eran, Hi all, I would like to start a working group last call on the base specification soon and the writeup in Section 3.2 about the Client Assertion Credentials is, unfortunately, not ready yet. Particularly the missing security discussion scares me. Hence, I would encourage someone

[OAUTH-WG] OAuth version -12 specification

2011-02-03 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hey all, the work on version -12 of the OAuth specification has generated a lot of discussion. -12 certainly contains a number of changes; some editorial but also normative changes. I went through the mailing list to see what the level of support we have for various design decisions. I

[OAUTH-WG] Hum about 'Removal: OAuth2 HTTP Authentication Scheme'

2011-02-03 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, Eran suggested to remove the 'OAuth2' HTTP Authentication Scheme functionality from the specification in his mail from last month: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/oauth/current/msg05026.html The discussion got off topic pretty quickly with the discussion about OAuth usage for

[OAUTH-WG] Hum about 'Removal: Client Assertion Credentials'

2011-02-03 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, Eran suggested to remove the Client Assertion functionality from the draft-ietf-oauth-v2 specification in his mail from last month: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/oauth/current/msg05027.html This lead to a heated discussion. Going through the discussions I got the following

[OAUTH-WG] Hum about 'Removal: HTTP Basic Authentication for Client Credentials'

2011-02-03 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, Eran suggested to remove the HTTP Basic Authentication functionality from the specification in his mail from last month: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/oauth/current/msg05028.html Essentially, there are two ways to accomplish the same functionality, namely (1) Request

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Hum about 'Removal: OAuth2 HTTP Authentication Scheme'

2011-02-03 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
implemented this feature, it's late in the cycle to remove, so I raise the objection. -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hannes Tschofenig Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:11 AM To: oauth@ietf.org Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Hum about

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Hum about 'Removal: HTTP Basic Authentication for Client Credentials'

2011-02-03 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
On 2/3/2011 5:00 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: Yes. I think automatic registration and other mechanisms for discovery and obtaining credentials are going to be extremely useful. We're just not there yet. This issue does not only need to be related to automatic registration. With respect to

[OAUTH-WG] New Working Group Items?

2011-02-03 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, while we are hopefully coming to an end with the main specification (and the two other WG items) I need to put text for re-chartering together. The entire process typically takes a little while because * I need your feedback (hence this mail) of what you guys want to work on * I have

Re: [OAUTH-WG] who is working on security considerations?

2011-02-08 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Certainly right, Eran. Torsten, submit the draft ASAP. On 2/7/11 8:40 PM, Hammer-Lahav Hammer-Lahav e...@hueniverse.com wrote: It would probably be helpful to do this work in public. If not via I-Ds (even if very rough) than via github etc. EHL -Original Message- From:

Re: [OAUTH-WG] meeting in Prague?

2011-02-11 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi Peter, I have requested a slot already very early. My request is pending scheduling. Ciao Hannes On 2/11/11 1:14 AM, Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im wrote: It seems that this group probably could have a productive meeting in Prague. This is just a reminder that the deadline for

[OAUTH-WG] Client Assertion Credentials (again)

2011-02-18 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, I asked for feedback regarding the removal of the client assertion credentials earlier this month, see http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/oauth/current/msg05261.html Unfortunately, the feedback did not lead to any new insight other than there are three groups of people: 1) Those

[OAUTH-WG] JWT Implementation Question

2011-02-24 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hey Axel, Hi Jeff, looking at your post regarding the JWT implementation I was wondering about one aspect: You are providing an implementation in Java, Python, PHP, and Ruby. Why didn't you implement a sub-set of the CMS implementation for signing instead? Maybe you could have used existing

[OAUTH-WG] Fwd: OAUTH - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 80

2011-02-24 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
...@ietf.org Subject: OAUTH - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 80 Dear Hannes Tschofenig, The sessions that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the information of sessions that you have requested. OAUTH Session 1 (2.5 hours

[OAUTH-WG] WGLC on draft-ietf-oauth-v2-13.txt

2011-03-01 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
This is a Last Call for comments on http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-oauth-v2-13.txt Please have your comments in no later than March 16. Do remember to send a note in if you have read the document and have no other comments other than its ready to go - we need those as much as we need I

[OAUTH-WG] WGLC on draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-03.txt

2011-03-02 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
This is a Last Call for comments on http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-03.txt Please have your comments in no later than March 25 (extended deadline because of the ongoing OAuth base specification WGLC). Do remember to send a note in if you have read the document and have no

[OAUTH-WG] HUM - was Re: Vote: Location of OAuth Errors Registry, deadline Friday, March 18

2011-03-14 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi Mike, Hi all, As some of you had notice we do not vote. Soliciting the feedback from the working group on this issue is, however, a good idea. Ciao Hannes On Mar 12, 2011, at 1:04 AM, Mike Jones wrote: As you know, the OAuth 2.0 Bearer Token draft -03 established the OAuth Errors

[OAUTH-WG] Prague IETF Meeting: Soliciting OAuth WG Presentations

2011-03-14 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, the IETF meeting in Prague is just around the corner and we need to put the agenda for the face-to-face meeting together. If you plan to give a presentation please drop us a mail ASAP. Ciao Hannes Blaine ___ OAuth mailing list

[OAUTH-WG] Reminder: Prague IETF Meeting: Soliciting OAuth WG Presentations

2011-03-15 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
A reminder to send me your presentation request. On Mar 14, 2011, at 9:13 AM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: Hi all, the IETF meeting in Prague is just around the corner and we need to put the agenda for the face-to-face meeting together. If you plan to give a presentation please drop us

[OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal

2011-03-17 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Open Authentication Protocol WG ==- FRIDAY, April 1, 2011 Vienna/Madrid Room Chairs: Hannes Tschofenig/Blaine Cook Agenda -- 1) Agenda Bashing (Chairs) 2) Discussion of Working Group Last Call Comments (Chairs/Mike Jones) http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft

[OAUTH-WG] Updated Agenda

2011-03-18 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Here is the updated agenda. Ciao Hannes PS: I don't see a problem with Mike presenting his discovery draft (draft-jones-simple-web-discovery-00.txt). - Open Authentication Protocol WG ==- FRIDAY, April 1, 2011 Vienna/Madrid Room Chairs: Hannes Tschofenig

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal

2011-03-18 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
.txt and also the http://self-issued.info/docs/draft-jones-oauth-jwt-bearer-00.txt -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hannes Tschofenig Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 11:29 AM To: oauth@ietf.org Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Agenda

[OAUTH-WG] WGLC on draft-ietf-oauth-saml2-bearer-03.txt

2011-03-19 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, the WGLC for the OAuth base specification has been completed and the authors think that this document is ready for a WGLC as well. Hence, let us start the last call for comments on http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-oauth-saml2-bearer-03.txt Please have your comments in no later than

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authors, Contributors, Acknowledgement

2011-03-27 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
On the security aspect: I will write a short text for the OAuth draft because the longer writeup by Torsten/Mar/Phil is targeting a different scope. So, you cannot just copy it. On Mar 27, 2011, at 12:36 AM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: The security consideration section pending, this is the

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authors, Contributors, Acknowledgement

2011-03-27 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
That's what I thought was the plan. (Assuming the working group agrees to work on a separate document. I would support it.) On Mar 27, 2011, at 10:03 AM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: So the new plan is for you to provide the text for the security section and just publish their work as a

Re: [OAUTH-WG] What's up with the secuity considerations? (was RE: Preview of -14)

2011-03-28 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi Igor, the writeup that Barry provided is not meant to be part of the OAuth core draft. Instead, it explores the bigger OAuth security story. We certainly do not have an endless amount of time at the face-to-face meeting. So, Barry's presentation will be put at the end of the agenda and,

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Security Considerations Section Proposal

2011-03-31 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, I am very happy that you got a proposal put together to quickly. Thanks for the good writeup! A few comments below. --- 2. Security Considerations Note: This section focuses on the security principles implementors of the protocol MUST consider. These

[OAUTH-WG] Presentation slides, please!

2011-03-31 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
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[OAUTH-WG] Agenda Update

2011-03-31 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
After a chat with Blaine we have an updated agenda proposal: First, we need to cover our working group items: –draft-ietf-oauth-v2 •Security Consideration Section (Torsten) •Error Code registry (Mike) •Client Assertion Credentials (Mike) •Anything else? –draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer •Open issues?

[OAUTH-WG] OAuth Interim Meeting

2011-04-22 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, we are planning to hold a 1-day interim meeting for the OAuth working group. Date: 23rd May, 2011 (9am - 6pm) Location: Mountain View, CA, US Host: Tbd. Agenda: Discussion of remaining open issues with the OAuth 2.0 specification, and other working group items. Ciao Hannes Blaine

[OAUTH-WG] Paper for the W3C Identity in the Browser Workshop about OAuth

2011-04-27 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi guys, Barry, Blaine and I compiled a short position paper for the upcoming W3C identity in the browser workshop. Here is the call for participation: http://www.tschofenig.priv.at/svn/w3c-browser-identity/ Here is the position paper:

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Paper for the W3C Identity in the Browser Workshop about OAuth

2011-04-27 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
'? authentication? On 4/27/11 11:06 AM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: Hi guys, Barry, Blaine and I compiled a short position paper for the upcoming W3C identity in the browser workshop. Here is the call for participation: http://www.tschofenig.priv.at/svn/w3c-browser-identity/ Here is the position

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Paper for the W3C Identity in the Browser Workshop about OAuth

2011-04-27 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: In some sense you are right. The problem is just that this is the name of the group :-) http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/oauth/charter/ Maybe we should adjust the name with the rechartering process. On Apr 27, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Paul Madsen wrote: 'Open Web

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Paper for the W3C Identity in the Browser Workshop about OAuth

2011-04-27 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
I did find it amusing that the paper defines bearer token as a 'cryptographic approach'. I guess no crypto is in its way an approach :-). Well. It uses TLS as the underlying primitive. As such, it is a cryptographic mechanism. I know that we have different views about the pros cons of the

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Revised Charter

2011-05-09 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
On Apr 28, 2011, at 4:01 AM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: Nov 2011Prepare re-chartering I would like this removed. I would like to see this WG closed when this list is complete and if there is further work with enough interest, a new working group can be created. Hi Eran, we already

[OAUTH-WG] Revised OAuth Charter Text

2011-05-09 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
I did a few minor updates; I believe Barry had missed a few comments in the version he sent out earlier today. Web Authorization Protocol Working Group Description of Working Group The Web Authorization (OAuth) protocol allows a user to grant a third-party Web site or application

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Revised Charter

2011-05-09 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
On May 9, 2011, at 10:04 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: I want to see this working group reach its end when this charter is fulfilled. At that point, a new working group can be requested to work on other items. The new working group can continue using this list which I assume will remain

[OAUTH-WG] Fwd: OAuth Security Consideration Text

2011-05-11 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Breno did a review of the security draft. Thanks a lot! Begin forwarded message: From: Breno de Medeiros br...@google.com Date: May 7, 2011 4:25:53 AM GMT+03:00 To: Hannes Tschofenig hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net Subject: Re: OAuth Security Consideration Text Hi Hannes, I have gone through

[OAUTH-WG] OAuth Interim Meeting: Register by Today

2011-05-19 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hey all, a number of you had signed up already for the interim meeting either at the OAuth Wiki or at the Eventbrite page: http://oauth-interim.eventbrite.com/ http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/oauth/trac/wiki/InterimMeetingAttendance If you have not added your name to either one of these two

[OAUTH-WG] OAuth Interim Meeting: Polished Meeting Notes

2011-06-03 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Meeting Minutes, OAuth Interim Meeting, 23rd May 2011 = Scribe: Bill Mills (post-processing by Hannes Tschofenig) Participants: ** in person ** - Hannes Tschofenig - Jonas Hogberg - Bill Mills - Marius Scurtescu - Andrew Wansley - Breno

[OAUTH-WG] OAuth WG session for Quebec City requested

2011-06-06 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Just to let you know. I have requested a meeting slow for the upcoming IETF meeting. More details about the meeting can be found here: http://www.ietf.org/meeting/81/index.html If you have already some ideas what you would like to present, or try to accomplish during the meeting please let us

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Second Last Call: draft-hammer-hostmeta-16.txt (Web Host Metadata) to Proposed Standard -- feedback

2011-07-03 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
I also never really understood why XRD was re-used. Btw, XRD is not used by any of the current OAuth WG documents, see http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/oauth/ On Jun 22, 2011, at 8:08 AM, Mark Nottingham wrote: * XRD -- XRD is an OASIS spec that's used by OpenID and OAuth. Maybe I'm just

[OAUTH-WG] Call For Agenda Items for IETF#81

2011-07-04 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, it is time to think about the agenda for the IETF#81 meeting in Quebec City. Since we are planning to complete the current working group documents our focus will be on the working group items. Please sent me a mail off-list whether you are able to present your document. Here is a

Re: [OAUTH-WG] URI for OAuth SAML assertion grant type

2011-07-09 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi Eran, http://oauth.net/grant_type/saml/2.0/bearer is definitely not a good idea since a lookup would not return anything useful (most likely it will just fail). Whenever there is something that can be looked up, it will be looked up . I would create an IETF URN Sub-namespace, as

Re: [OAUTH-WG] URI for OAuth SAML assertion grant type

2011-07-09 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
On Jul 9, 2011, at 7:40 PM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: Other grant types would then go in urn:ietf:params:oauth:grant-type:saml2-holder-of-the-key This sentence from my earlier mail could be misunderstood. To pick Mike's example for the JWT assertion profile we would then register something

[OAUTH-WG] Fwd: SSL/TLS Performance Data

2011-07-28 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
We had a discussion at the OAuth working group meeting about the worries people have with using TLS. Here is a relevant mail from a discussion around TCP crypt. Begin forwarded message: From: Eric Rescorla e...@rtfm.com Date: July 28, 2011 10:53:00 AM EDT To: tsv-a...@ietf.org Subject:

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OMA Liaison Has Arrived! [ was Re: Deutsche Telekom launched OAuth 2.0 support]

2011-07-29 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
That's correct. Murray is the liaison and he will provide the response of the liaison to the OMA. I am the liaison shepherd from the Internet Architecture Board. On Jul 29, 2011, at 2:41 AM, SM wrote: Hi Igor, At 10:39 PM 7/20/2011, Igor Faynberg wrote: the communication can emanate

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Security area review

2011-08-29 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi Eran, I gave presentations to the security area directorate, and have asked for review comments. Some of the folks (such as Tom Yu, and Shawn Emery) showed up in the meetings and the side meetings and provided comments. As Barry said, there will be more review comments flying in after the

[OAUTH-WG] draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-09: Open Issues Proposed Resolutions

2011-10-14 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, I had a discussion with Mike and Julian to hear what to discuss the open issues with the OAuth Bearer Token draft. Below is a short writeup of my impressions. 1. Error Description The error description field provides information to the software developer and is not meant to be shown

Re: [OAUTH-WG] draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-09: Open Issues Proposed Resolutions

2011-10-14 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi Bob, the question is only how to provide extensibility then. You are then essentially forced to know, because of pre-arrangements, what the content of the blob is going to be. Is that also fine for you? On Oct 14, 2011, at 7:04 PM, Bob Van Zant wrote: I'm in favor of removing the auth

Re: [OAUTH-WG] draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-09: Open Issues Proposed Resolutions

2011-10-14 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi Mike, On Oct 14, 2011, at 6:42 PM, Mike Jones wrote: 2. Scope – I was planning to allow a broader set of ASCII characters than the “token” set, as these characters are inadequate for the use of URIs/URLs as scope elements. In particular, scope elements need to permit the full sets

Re: [OAUTH-WG] draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-09: Open Issues Proposed Resolutions

2011-10-14 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
that scope values should be URIs. My intent is to not preclude them from being so. -- Mike -Original Message- From: Hannes Tschofenig [mailto:hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 11:27 AM To: Mike Jones Cc: Hannes Tschofenig

Re: [OAUTH-WG] draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-09: Open Issues Proposed Resolutions

2011-10-17 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
- From: Julian Reschke [mailto:julian.resc...@gmx.de] Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 11:00 AM To: Mike Jones Cc: Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo); Hannes Tschofenig; OAuth WG; Eran Hammer-Lahav Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-09: Open Issues Proposed Resolutions On 2011

[OAUTH-WG] Editorial comments for draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-09

2011-10-18 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi Mike, based on our discussion I suggest to make the following minor editorial changes to the specification. Let me provide specific text proposals. I recommend to extend the abstract a little bit. The current text does not tell the reader a lot and the RFC editor will require more text

[OAUTH-WG] Rechartering

2011-10-19 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, in preparation of the upcoming IETF meeting Barry and I would like to start a re-chartering discussion. We both are currently attending the Internet Identity Workshop and so we had the chance to solicit input from the participants. This should serve as a discussion starter.

[OAUTH-WG] draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-10

2011-10-20 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Section 2 of draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-10 describes three methods of sending bearer access tokens in resource requests to resource servers, namely 1) Authorization Request Headers (described in Section 2.1) 2) Form-Encoded Body Parameter (described in Section 2.2) 3) URI Query Parameter

[OAUTH-WG] Nits in draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-10

2011-10-20 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Julian checked the ABNF in draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-10 using http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/httpbis/trac/browser/abnfparser/bap and noticed that we should replace with DQUOTE. ___ OAuth mailing list OAuth@ietf.org

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Rechartering

2011-10-20 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Certainly not everyone needs to pay attention to everything. We are, however, trying to determine whether there is a critical mass of interested persons for a given item in terms of reviews, document authors, implementers, and deployers. I do not see a problem at all with working on JWT

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Rechartering

2011-10-20 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mike Jones Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 12:12 PM To: Hannes Tschofenig; OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Rechartering Thanks, Hannes. Here's my prioritized list of new work: 1. JSON Web Token (JWT) 2. Simple Web Discovery (SWD

Re: [OAUTH-WG] draft-ietf-oauth-assertions-00

2011-10-20 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
-- Mike From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hannes Tschofenig Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 12:40 PM To: OAuth WG Subject: [OAUTH-WG] draft-ietf-oauth-assertions-00 Hi all

[OAUTH-WG] Document Shepherd Write-Up for draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer

2011-10-21 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
this version is ready for forwarding to the IESG for publication? The document shepherd is Hannes Tschofenig. I have personally reviewed the document and I think it is ready for going forward. (1.b) Has the document had adequate review both from key WG members and from key non

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.0 Bearer Token Specification Draft -12

2011-10-27 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
to the IESG. It contains the following changes: • Made non-normative editorial changes that Hannes Tschofenig requested be applied prior to forwarding the specification to the IESG. • Added rationale for the choice of the b64token syntax. • Added rationale stating

[OAUTH-WG] Publication requested for draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-12

2011-10-28 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
for this document? Has the Document Shepherd personally reviewed this version of the document and, in particular, does he or she believe this version is ready for forwarding to the IESG for publication? The document shepherd is Hannes Tschofenig. I have personally

[OAUTH-WG] draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-14

2011-11-05 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, after a discussion with Stephen we decided that it would be useful to have draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-14 submitted during the blackout period so that we have the most recent feedback incorporated already before the IETF meeting starts. Stephen will talk to the secretary to enable the

[OAUTH-WG] Mandatory to Implement Interoperability

2011-12-08 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, I read through this rather long mail thread again and see whether we are reaching any conclusion on this discussion. In turns out that there are actually two types of discussions that relate to each other, namely the TLS version support and the token type. Let me go back in time a

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Mandatory to Implement Interoperability

2011-12-08 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: 3) We want the ability for algorithm negotiation/discovery, at least up to a certain degree. For example, it would would nice if a client talks to a server and they both implement TLS 1.2 then they actually use it. The requirement for crypto-agility fits in here

[OAUTH-WG] Fwd: Smart Object Security Workshop Announcement

2012-01-19 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, I know that a few of you have integrated OAuth into small devices, like picture frames. It would be great if you could share your experience about the utilized security mechanisms with us. Ciao Hannes Begin forwarded message: From: Hannes Tschofenig hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Status of OAUTH re-charter discussion

2012-03-07 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
I was planning to kick of a discussion next week with a strawman proposal for a new charter text. Ciao Hannes On Mar 7, 2012, at 8:36 PM, Thomas Hardjono wrote: What is the status of the OAUTH WG re-charter efforts? The last thread was back in October. Will the re-charter be on the

[OAUTH-WG] Agenda Proposal

2012-03-14 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Feedback appreciated! Web Authorization Protocol WG = THURSDAY, March 29, 2012 1300-1500 Afternoon Session I Room: 252A Chairs: Hannes Tschofenig Derek Atkins 1. Agenda Bashing, WG Status (+ Welcome Derek and Thank You Barry) 2. OAuth Threats Document (Torsten

[OAUTH-WG] OAuth WG Re-Chartering

2012-03-14 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
So, here is a proposal: --- Web Authorization Protocol (oauth) Description of Working Group The Web Authorization (OAuth) protocol allows a user to grant a third-party Web site or application access to the user's protected resources, without necessarily revealing their long-term

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Using Oauth2 token to SOAP web services

2012-03-19 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi Grant, IMHO the main reason why the OAuth specification does not standardize OAuth usage specially for SOAP is because most people by now realized that SOAP, as another layer of encapsulation, does not add a lot of value. Ciao Hannes On Mar 19, 2012, at 6:15 AM, Grant Yang wrote: Thank

[OAUTH-WG] FW: OMA IETF MIF API Workshop - Room info

2012-03-27 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
FYI: I mentioned to some of you that there is another OAuth related event during this week. -- Forwarded Message From: Hui Deng denghu...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 19:28:50 +0200 To: MIF Mailing List m...@ietf.org, Internet Area int-a...@ietf.org, IETF Discussion i...@ietf.org Cc:

[OAUTH-WG] Meeting Minutes - IETF#83

2012-04-04 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hey guys, Derek took notes during the meeting and I polished them a bit. Have a look at them and let us know if there is something missing: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/83/minutes/minutes-83-oauth.txt Ciao Hannes Derek ___ OAuth mailing list

[OAUTH-WG] Updated Charter to the IESG (this weekend)

2012-04-12 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hey guys based on the discussion before, during, and after the Paris IETF meeting I am going to send the following updated charter / milestones to the IESG. Please have a quick look (till the end of the week) to double-check the content (particularly the suggested milestone dates): --

[OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simple Web Discovery (SWD)

2012-04-12 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, those who had attended the last IETF meeting may have noticed the ongoing activity in the 'Applications Area Working Group' regarding Web Finger. We had our discussion regarding Simple Web Discovery (SWD) as part of the re-chartering process. Here are the two specifications:

[OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration

2012-04-13 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, at the IETF#83 OAuth working group meeting we had some confusion about the Dynamic Client Registration and the Simple Web Discovery item. I just listened to the audio recording again. With the ongoing mailing list discussion regarding WebFinger vs. Simple Web Discovery I hope that

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration

2012-04-15 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
and this WG has enough other work to focus on while that happens elsewhere. I expect this to come back in the next round with much more deployment experience and discovery clarity. EH -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hannes

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration

2012-04-15 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
. The hard part is still around the security stuff which they have not dealt with yet, and that's going to be a blocker until it's solved. Authority to update elemnts or namespaces is going to be needed, and that's a hard problem. -bill From: Eve Maler e...@xmlgrrl.com To: Hannes Tschofenig

[OAUTH-WG] IIW and OAuth

2012-04-16 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi guys, I was wondering how many of you will be at the upcoming IIW in Mountain View (or for some other event). IIW will run from Tuesday (May 1st) to Thursday (May 3rd). I thought it might be good to useful to get together on the Friday after the IIW event for a OAuth breakfast chat. I am

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