RE: [obc] Gatineau Park

2002-11-08 Thread Avery Burdett
I have just received an electronic copy of the report from the workshops 
of last June regarding the Gatineau Park Master Plan Review. 
Send me an e-mail if you'd like a copy. 
Avery

Derek J Medland wrote:
 Dear Fellow Cyclists
 I have included a thread of correspondance that I have recently had with 
 the NCC regarding the Gatineau Park, and the Master Plan for it's 
 development 
 
  

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RE: [obc] Gatineau Park

2002-11-08 Thread Avery Burdett
Oh well, the e-address still gets truncated when displayed by Topica. I 
assume the reply feature works.


Avery Burdett wrote:
 That's [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you read this on Topica's web page.
 
 Avery Burdett wrote:
  I have just received an electronic copy of the report from the workshops 
  
  
  of last June regarding the Gatineau Park Master Plan Review. 
  Send me an e-mail if you'd like a copy. 
  Avery
  
  Derek J Medland wrote:
   Dear Fellow Cyclists
   I have included a thread of correspondance that I have recently had with 
   
   
   the NCC regarding the Gatineau Park, and the Master Plan for it's 
   development 
   

  
  
  
 
 
 

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RE: [obc] gatineau park

2002-08-20 Thread Avery Burdett

Derek J Medland wrote:
 I heard that there is a possibility of the NCC closing closing the Park 
 down 
 to any form of racing, road or mtn or tri. I have also seen preliminary 
 plans that close many of the best trails to MTBs.
 
 Is the OBC Board of Directors going to have any representation against 
 the 
 National Capital Crusaders?

Of course but we can't act on rumours. So we'll wait to see the 
evidence. Currently, we use the roads as legal users. We get a permit 
for the Grand Prix so I don't see that changing. MTB trail use is 
another issue and I wouldn't be surprised to see changes, but other 
organizations will deal with that.

 

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RE: [obc] gatineau park

2002-08-20 Thread Avery Burdett

Paul Chedore wrote:
 I'm certain other organizations such as the NCMBA will follow this issue 
 and
 voice an opinion but I believe the OBC should also stand up and support
 their mountain biking membership if trail access is indeed threatened. 
 As
 the largest cycling club in the region it would be a shame to just stand 
 by
 and let smaller mountain bike specific clubs take on the NCC alone.  
 Does the OBC have a road specific mandate?

No but there are some complex issues related to trail use and we would 
need to have some expertise and research done to take a position. Alan 
Anderson has been our unofficial guide on MTB issues and we leave it to 
him and others to suggest what positions to take but so far we haven't 
taken any. That doesn't mean we won't but NCMBA is probably better 
qualified. As you probably know, it has been our practice not to 
automatically rubber stamp some other organization's advocacy. 


 
  -Original Message-
 From: Avery Burdett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 4:45 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  RE: [obc] gatineau park
 
 Derek J Medland wrote:
  I heard that there is a possibility of the NCC closing closing the Park 
  down 
  to any form of racing, road or mtn or tri. I have also seen preliminary 
  plans that close many of the best trails to MTBs.
  
  Is the OBC Board of Directors going to have any representation against 
  the 
  National Capital Crusaders?
 
 Of course but we can't act on rumours. So we'll wait to see the 
 evidence. Currently, we use the roads as legal users. We get a permit 
 for the Grand Prix so I don't see that changing. MTB trail use is 
 another issue and I wouldn't be surprised to see changes, but other 
 organizations will deal with that.
 
  
 
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RE: [obc] gatineau park

2002-08-20 Thread Derek J Medland

NCMBA certainly means well, but they have neither the commitment, membership 
base, prestige nor history that the OBC can take pride in to effect change 
at the levels of bureaucracy it takes to deal with Mr Beaudry and friends.

Though I have been doubted, I can verify trail access is indeed threatened, 
I have seen the two year proposals. More than two of the most popular 'bike 
only' trails are being turned into main and shared access trails. Shared 
access, as those of you that mountainbike as well as roadbike will agree, 
means 5+ feet wide, poor drainage patterns, and absolutely terrible 
construction materials, more suited for driveways than cycling paths.

Certainly if there was ever a time that the OBC needs to take a stand, it is 
to represent cyclists' best interests in the Gatineau Park. I will do what I 
can to share information on this topic as it comes available.  I will 
include any interested parties in an event, petition, and media coverage to 
bring this to light, into the public eye so we can have a singular unified 
voice from the cycling community as a whole.

Sincerely

Derek.

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From: Paul Chedore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [obc] gatineau park
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 17:05:51 -0400

I'm certain other organizations such as the NCMBA will follow this issue and
voice an opinion but I believe the OBC should also stand up and support
their mountain biking membership if trail access is indeed threatened. As
the largest cycling club in the region it would be a shame to just stand by
and let smaller mountain bike specific clubs take on the NCC alone. Does the
OBC have a road specific mandate?

Paul

  -Original Message-
From:   Avery Burdett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Tuesday, August 20, 2002 4:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: [obc] gatineau park

Derek J Medland wrote:
  I heard that there is a possibility of the NCC closing closing the Park
  down
  to any form of racing, road or mtn or tri. I have also seen preliminary
  plans that close many of the best trails to MTBs.
 
  Is the OBC Board of Directors going to have any representation against
  the
  National Capital Crusaders?

Of course but we can't act on rumours. So we'll wait to see the
evidence. Currently, we use the roads as legal users. We get a permit
for the Grand Prix so I don't see that changing. MTB trail use is
another issue and I wouldn't be surprised to see changes, but other
organizations will deal with that.



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