RE: [obc] TT results on OBC links
Many are called but few are chosen ! Of the fact that Celia is doing a super job, there can be no doubt, however, in order to get results at all you need people to actually run the program. We have been very fortunate so far in having Jim Glover and his associates giving their time, but the high turn out of riders is not reflected in the numbers willing to volunteer. It would be just great if we had more than one candidate for Time Trial Co-Ordinator if that position were put up for election. -Original Message- From: Michael Coldwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 2:42 PM To: OBC Subject: [obc] TT results on OBC links Earlier this season I had pointed out, to the OBC Board, the lack of TT results on the OBC website. I was told, at that time, that it was being developed and we should all be more patient. Since Celia had (and has!) continued to independently produce excellent quality result pages and since it appeared that development of the official TT pages had hardly started, I suggested that, at least until the work was complete, a link be made from the OBC web to Celia's result pages. My suggestion was ignored, and at one point there were no updates to the official TT result pages for more than a month of our competetive season. We have now had almost a whole season of TT's, and most members of the club have mostly viewed the results from Celia's link that she sends out each week. The reality is that Celia is supporting the club member requirements, and is certainly recognized within the membership for her superb work and dedication, though it seems unappreciated by the OBC board. If the OBC board is unwilling to appreciate the TT results we did have (which I feel were second to none of any bicycle club sites), then I would recommend that the TT keeper position be an elected position. You know where my vote will go. Advantages of Celia's site: colour coded for easy viewing and picking out relative placements; links from each line detail to access other grouping information (by category, name, or speed); timeliness of data onto the site; weather details; proper seed sheets; BAR calculations; ABC results; complete and accurate results (i.e. all categories (I notice the PeeWee is missing from August 8 official results - too bad, as I think it's great to encourage the young cyclists); complete volunteer lists (once again, we can't survive without volunteers, and they should always be recognized)); there may be more issues, but I sure haven't done an in depth search). I am a user of this information, appreciate having it, and knowing that we have had the quality support from Celia, certainly would not expect that we need to take a step backwards as technological capabilities generally takes steps forward. Michael __ Post your ad for free now! http://personals.yahoo.ca - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [obc] TT results on OBC links
I agree completely. Her TT stats are a marvel and should be properly linked. I also have noticed that when Celia was in charge of the OBC web's classy ads, material was put up in a timely manner. Now it can be weeks before anything new shows up. I don't understand why the OBC took something away from a competent volunteer only to make it worse. Sheila Michael Coldwell wrote: Earlier this season I had pointed out, to the OBC Board, the lack of TT results on the OBC website. I was told, at that time, that it was being developed and we should all be more patient. Since Celia had (and has!) continued to independently produce excellent quality result pages and since it appeared that development of the official TT pages had hardly started, I suggested that, at least until the work was complete, a link be made from the OBC web to Celia's result pages. My suggestion was ignored, and at one point there were no updates to the official TT result pages for more than a month of our competetive season. We have now had almost a whole season of TT's, and most members of the club have mostly viewed the results from Celia's link that she sends out each week. The reality is that Celia is supporting the club member requirements, and is certainly recognized within the membership for her superb work and dedication, though it seems unappreciated by the OBC board. If the OBC board is unwilling to appreciate the TT results we did have (which I feel were second to none of any bicycle club sites), then I would recommend that the TT keeper position be an elected position. You know where my vote will go. Advantages of Celia's site: colour coded for easy viewing and picking out relative placements; links from each line detail to access other grouping information (by category, name, or speed); timeliness of data onto the site; weather details; proper seed sheets; BAR calculations; ABC results; complete and accurate results (i.e. all categories (I notice the PeeWee is missing from August 8 official results - too bad, as I think it's great to encourage the young cyclists); complete volunteer lists (once again, we can't survive without volunteers, and they should always be recognized)); there may be more issues, but I sure haven't done an in depth search). I am a user of this information, appreciate having it, and knowing that we have had the quality support from Celia, certainly would not expect that we need to take a step backwards as technological capabilities generally takes steps forward. Michael __ Post your ad for free now! http://personals.yahoo.ca - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [obc] TT results on OBC links
Michael, I agree with your recommendation of a Time Trial Keeper (TTK) position. My vote would also go for Celia. Celia's continuous hard work and dedication has been exemplary. She has been patient, dependable, and good natured. Results are posted the same evening. She not only compiles the results, but also summarizes each event in her e-mail. She personalizes the results by highlighting fastest times and PBs, adds humour and explanations; e.g., her running 2k across the finish with her bike (broken chain), Sally's TT in flip flops. I have no idea what goes on behind the scenes; however, if I were on the executive, I would treat her with kid gloves, for fear of losing such a treasured gem. Thanks Celia for all your hard work, Mary Ajersch Volunteer SS CKO - Original Message - From: Michael Coldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: OBC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 2:42 PM Subject: [obc] TT results on OBC links - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [obc] TT results on OBC links
Yes, Mary, What does go on behind the scenes ? Does anyone know about a NEW Handicap TT point system ? I hear of radical changes in the calculations. Why is it kept a secret ? I think I'm entitled to know, it says in the latest Spokesperson: Who can unseat Mary Ajersch and Hermann Kerckhoff ? We are both training hard for this event. Hermann Kerckhoff - For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
