[obrolan-bandar] Bagi2 info, ISP satelit, baru tahu nih saya!

2006-09-15 Terurut Topik EKA SUWANDANA



Setelah berkutat lama dgn sambungan internet pelan, dial up, RT/RW net, dsb. Lalu ada Speedy, tapi di Bandung Speedy cepetnya cuma 1 bulan pertama, sekarang jadi Slowly cuman 12-20 kbps download. Saya ditawari orang yg jadi agen Internet Satellite yg kantornya ada di Cyber building, Kuningan. 128 kbps real via parabola cuma 90 USD/bulan, trus yg 512kbps cuma 170 USD/bulan. Saya coba ditempat yg sudah pasang 128kbps, real cepet sekali. ternyata agennya banyak di cyber building. Kita bisa langganan 2 way (download-upload) ke satelit asing. Sebenernya nggak boleh sih tapi nggak ketahuan asalkan nggak utk dijual lagi. Saya rencana mau bagi 3 sama tetangga saja.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Bagi2 info, ISP satelit, baru tahu nih saya!

2006-09-15 Terurut Topik Jimmy Gunawan
wah Pak Eka, kita mau juga donk... kalo di surabaya kira2 bisa ngga?
bisa dishare alamat url nya ?

btw, mengenai UNSP, bisa kasih pencerahan?
apa alasan bapak mengatakan strong BUY ?
bukankah harga karet/latex udah turun drastis hampir separuhnya dibanding 
bbrp bulan lalu?

thanks!

JG


- Original Message - 
From: EKA SUWANDANA
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 1:15 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Bagi2 info, ISP satelit, baru tahu nih saya!


Setelah berkutat lama dgn sambungan internet pelan, dial up, RT/RW net, dsb. 
Lalu ada Speedy, tapi di Bandung Speedy cepetnya cuma 1 bulan pertama, 
sekarang jadi Slowly cuman 12-20 kbps download.

Saya ditawari orang yg jadi agen Internet Satellite yg kantornya ada di 
Cyber building, Kuningan. 128 kbps real via parabola cuma 90 USD/bulan, trus 
yg 512kbps cuma 170 USD/bulan. Saya coba ditempat yg sudah pasang 128kbps, 
real cepet sekali. ternyata agennya banyak di cyber building. Kita bisa 
langganan 2 way (download-upload) ke satelit asing. Sebenernya nggak boleh 
sih tapi nggak ketahuan asalkan nggak utk dijual lagi. Saya rencana mau bagi 
3 sama tetangga saja.




 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Menyikapi grafik

2006-09-15 Terurut Topik Frederick Schubert



Dear Pak Oen...,  It's a very difficult question... But reading chart could be wisely translated into how we deal with the inclination..(given the fact the i mentioned..)...some of the share prices movements on the Jakarta bourse don't really represent thefundamental strength ofthe companies due to the suspected fake volume... so, if we have achart suggesting thatA share price resistance is at (let's say) IDR500, then you have to give a - and + factor of 5%, so you will find a range of between IDR475 and IDR525 resistance. Some of the inclination should also consider the country risk of Indonesia which now stands at 30%... complicated rite..? the highest inclination is in the mining sector which could be as much as 11%, while the lowest one is in the banking which is 4%...  i myself have built my own software to detect any infunction ofvolume and share price..so whenever a share price has moved in a
 strange manner, my computer will be ringing... it alarms me...  bests,  oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert pemainbesar@... wrote: FYI, the target price for indofood based on investment flow analysis has been revised upward to IDR1,500-IDR1,600 each... hard to explain charting for Indonesian stocks as data for trading volume sometimes
 corrupt and resulted in huge inclination however good the way you read the chart is...you can never find both entrance and exit points accurately just sharing... and very disclaimer, thouMungkin ini yang kesekian kali P. Frederick mengungkapkan hal tersebut;  Kira2 maksudnya beliau begini…Bicara VOLUME bisa diadakan; beli jual SENDIRI ntar kalau sudah CUKUP tinggal mau turun/naik? Nge-BREAK katanye…  Bicara SUPPORT/RESISTANCE bisa dibuat; mau dimana?   Misalnya ANTM mau di 5700 utk resistance?
 Atau 5000 buat support?  Bisa DIBUATKAN…..malah kalau perlu bisa DIPESAN!?  Malah kalau lihat monitor; kelihatannya ASING agresif BELI; eh ternyata sebenarnya jualan, demikian sebaliknya.  Hari ini saham X ruame banget; eh besoknya PET diem…..ntah kena apa?  BD nggak masuk galeri nkali?  Hehehe….Pertanyaanya kalau P. Frederick MENYIKAPI GRAFIK gimana caranya?  Share buat kami2 ini pak… 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Bagi2 info, ISP satelit, baru tahu nih saya!

2006-09-15 Terurut Topik EKA SUWANDANA



URL nya www.speedcast.com telpon saja mereka, tanya nomer HP agennya. Email nggak dibalas!   UNSP strong buy karena dia mau tambah tanah, dan pendanaan obligasi. Jimmy Gunawan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  wah Pak Eka, kita mau juga donk... kalo di surabaya kira2 bisa ngga?bisa dishare alamat url nya ?btw, mengenai UNSP, bisa kasih pencerahan?apa alasan bapak mengatakan strong BUY ?bukankah harga karet/latex udah turun drastis hampir separuhnya
 dibanding bbrp bulan lalu?thanks!JG- Original Message - From: EKA SUWANDANATo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSent: Friday, September 15, 2006 1:15 PMSubject: [obrolan-bandar] Bagi2 info, ISP satelit, baru tahu nih saya!Setelah berkutat lama dgn sambungan internet pelan, dial up, RT/RW net, dsb. Lalu ada Speedy, tapi di Bandung Speedy cepetnya cuma 1 bulan pertama, sekarang jadi Slowly cuman 12-20 kbps download.Saya ditawari orang yg jadi agen Internet Satellite yg kantornya ada di Cyber building, Kuningan. 128 kbps real via parabola cuma 90 USD/bulan, trus yg 512kbps cuma 170 USD/bulan. Saya coba ditempat yg sudah pasang 128kbps, real cepet sekali. ternyata agennya banyak di cyber building. Kita bisa langganan 2 way (download-upload) ke satelit asing. Sebenernya nggak boleh sih tapi nggak ketahuan asalkan nggak utk
 dijual lagi. Saya rencana mau bagi 3 sama tetangga saja.
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Menyikapi grafik

2006-09-15 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q
I see Mr Frederick
So...your private programms that amazing for me
Thx


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear Pak Oen...,
   It's a very difficult question... But reading chart could be 
wisely translated into how we deal with the inclination..(given the 
fact the i mentioned..)...some of the share prices movements on the 
Jakarta bourse don't really represent the fundamental strength of  
the companies due to the suspected fake volume... so, if we have a 
chart suggesting that A share price resistance is at (let's say) 
IDR500, then you have to give a - and + factor of 5%, so you will 
find a range of between IDR475 and IDR525 resistance.  Some of the 
inclination should also consider the country risk of Indonesia which 
now stands at 30%... complicated rite..? the highest inclination is 
in the mining sector which could be as much as 11%, while the lowest 
one is in the banking which is 4%...
   i myself have built my own software to detect any infunction of 
volume and share price..so whenever a share price has moved in a 
strange manner, my computer will be ringing... it alarms me...
   bests,
 

   
 oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert 
pemainbesar@ wrote:
 
  FYI, the target price for indofood based on investment flow 
analysis has been revised upward to IDR1,500-IDR1,600 each...
  hard to explain charting for Indonesian stocks as data for 
trading volume sometimes corrupt and resulted in huge 
inclination however good the way you read the chart is...you can 
never find both entrance and exit points accurately
  just sharing... and very disclaimer, thou 
  
   Mungkin ini yang kesekian kali P. Frederick mengungkapkan hal 
tersebut;
   Kira2 maksudnya beliau begini…
   
   Bicara VOLUME bisa diadakan; beli jual SENDIRI ntar kalau sudah 
CUKUP tinggal mau turun/naik? Nge-BREAK katanye…
   Bicara SUPPORT/RESISTANCE bisa dibuat; mau dimana? 
   Misalnya ANTM mau di 5700 utk resistance? Atau 5000 buat support?
   Bisa DIBUATKAN…..malah kalau perlu bisa DIPESAN!?
   Malah kalau lihat monitor; kelihatannya ASING agresif BELI; eh 
ternyata sebenarnya jualan, demikian sebaliknya.
   Hari ini saham X ruame banget; eh besoknya PET diem…..ntah kena 
apa?
   BD nggak masuk galeri nkali?
   Hehehe….
   
   Pertanyaanya kalau P. Frederick MENYIKAPI GRAFIK gimana caranya?
   Share buat kami2 ini pak…
   Thx before your explanation…
   
   Cheers
   
 
  
 
   
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Bagi2 info, ISP satelit, baru tahu nih saya!

2006-09-15 Terurut Topik Andri wijaya



kalau di jakarta telp brapa, saya masuk ke website no telp Hongkong ntar telp ke sana gua kagak ngerti ngomong apa. thanx  regardsEKA SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:URL nya www.speedcast.com telpon saja mereka, tanya nomer HP agennya. Email nggak dibalas!   UNSP strong buy karena dia mau tambah tanah, dan pendanaan obligasi. Jimmy Gunawan [EMAIL PROTECTED]com wrote:  wah Pak Eka, kita mau juga donk... kalo di surabaya kira2 bisa ngga?bisa dishare alamat url nya ?btw, mengenai UNSP, bisa kasih pencerahan?apa alasan bapak mengatakan strong BUY ?bukankah harga karet/latex udah turun drastis hampir separuhnya dibanding bbrp bulan lalu?thanks!JG- Original Message - From: EKA SUWANDANATo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSent: Friday, September 15, 2006 1:15 PMSubject: [obrolan-bandar] Bagi2 info, ISP satelit, baru tahu nih saya!Setelah berkutat lama dgn sambungan internet pelan, dial up, RT/RW net, dsb. Lalu ada Speedy, tapi di Bandung Speedy cepetnya cuma 1 bulan pertama, sekarang jadi Slowly cuman 12-20 kbps download.Saya ditawari orang yg jadi agen Internet Satellite yg kantornya ada di
 Cyber building, Kuningan. 128 kbps real via parabola cuma 90 USD/bulan, trus yg 512kbps cuma 170 USD/bulan. Saya coba ditempat yg sudah pasang 128kbps, real cepet sekali. ternyata agennya banyak di cyber building. Kita bisa langganan 2 way (download-upload) ke satelit asing. Sebenernya nggak boleh sih tapi nggak ketahuan asalkan nggak utk dijual lagi. Saya rencana mau bagi 3 sama tetangga saja.   
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Bagi2 info, ISP satelit,

2006-09-15 Terurut Topik T Halim



Wah kalu email ga dijawab, hati hati biasanya Customer Servicenya payah tuh.. Pengalaman dng macam macam ISP di Indonesia emang nyedihin banget dan muahall..Oh ya, kalau pake parabola atau antene berarti ini wireless. Kalau wireless sering ntar musim ujan (petir) banyak gangguan krn via terrestrial gini.. coba di check dan minta keterangan dari ISP Speedcast nya.. Mudah mudahan emang bagus servicenya.th 
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[obrolan-bandar] Tutorial RAPIDSHARE : Bagaimana Men-download dari Rapidshare (DiSertai GAMBAR)

2006-09-15 Terurut Topik masih_belajar saham



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SPO BLTA mundur lagi ?

2006-09-15 Terurut Topik jeffry . lesmana



Bro, BLTA hari ini ada TS sebanyak +/- 1,35 juta lot oleh II. Ada yang punya info? Soalnya saya denger juga Listing di Singapore diundur menjadi tahun depan. Mohon infonya. Terima Kasih
On 9/15/06, M Herman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:













  



Dari 500 milyar obligasi conversi terbit tahun lalu,
yang belum di konversi tinggal 50 milyar...

BLTA emang jago financial engineeringnya, debt to
equity udah cuma sekitar 1x (kalau pake international
financial reporting standar (IFRS)). 

--- redyherinantoalb [EMAIL PROTECTED]

wrote:

 Ya mungkin sampai hari H akan digenjot pembeliannya,
 dapatnya berapa 
 kekurangannya pinjam Founder Share, so siap2 aja...
 :D
 
 Redy
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, spr_serpong
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  YES ! You're right, but  buyback yg tahun lalu
 sudah 
 dicadangkan 
  untuk Convertible Bonds bahkan sebagian besar sdh
 di konversi jadi 
  saham
  
  
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
 redyherinantoalb 
  redyherinantoalb@ wrote:
  
   Jangan lupa, sebelum program buyback yang
 sekarang, dulu juga 
 ada 
   program buyback di harga bawah, waktu masih
 seribuan, itu 
 treasury 
   stock yang mau dijual ada juga founder
 shares yang di 
   tawarkan... 
   
   Redy
   
   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
 spr_serpong 
   spr_serpong@ wrote:
   
If dikatakan : the company has only completed
 c.100m shares or 
   c.25% 
of allowed numbers of shares to be bought back
 – thus another 
  300m 
shares still outstanding.

jadi kalo 300m shares itu di buyback dlm waktu
 30 hari kerja 
  atau 
sampai akhir oktober artinya tiap hari harus
 buyback 10m 
 shares 
   atau 
20.000 lot, mungkinkah dilakukan ?

so. isu nya ada benernya juga nih...


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
 hermanlatief 
hermanlatief@ wrote:

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
 mbahqu mbahqu@ 
  wrote:
 
  Isu yg beredar, SPO BLTA mundur dari
 rencana Oktober 2006.
  Apa ada yg punya info yg melengkapi ?
 
 kayaknya nggak , ini saya lampirkan report
 punya DBS 
 
 #56256;#56510; Story: Proposed offering in
 SGX has been 
   amended, 
canceling
 the issuance 5% new shares, such that the
 offering would only
 comprise of treasury shares of up to 410m
 shares, and 
 possibly 
  in
 conjunction with placement of founder
 shares.
 #56256;#56510; Point: This should have no
 impact at all, 
 as 
   the 
objective of
 secondary listing is to unlock its book
 value rather than to 
   raise
 more capital.
 #56256;#56510; Relevance: We maintain our
 Strong Buy 
 rating 
  on 
BLTA with
 target price of IDR3,000, with further
 catalyst – beside the 
imminent
 secondary listing - of robust q-o-q
 improvement in the 3Q 
   financial
 performance, as strong recovery in oil
 tanker rates has been
 evidenced from its lows in the 2Q, and
 renewed contract 
 prices 
   for
 chemical tankers effective in this quarter.
 We share the 
   company's
 view of bullish chemical rates in 07 given
 expected shift of
 significant cargo volumes to higher grade
 IMO II chemical 
   vessels on
 the back of new regulations.
 
 What are the changes? The company has
 amended its proposed
 offering in the SGX, eliminating the
 issuance of 5% new 
 shares
 without pre-emptive rights, thus the initial
 offering would 
  only
 come from the treasury stocks arising from
 current buyback
 program of up to 410m shares (10% of total
 outstanding) and
 possibly in conjunction with placement of
 founder shares of
 another 410m shares. This is good news in
 our view, as 
  previously
 the company has been at odds with the stock
 exchange 
 authority,
 as traditionally the 5% new shares issuance
 is allocated for 
 a
 private placement with a 12-month lock up
 period, instead of 
 a
 public offering.
 Why the secondary listing? Worthy of note is
 that the 
  objective 
   of
 the secondary listing is to 1) unlock
 company's book value, 
 as
 assets would be marked to market (FY06 P/BV
 should drop to
 estimated 1.4x from current 2.7x), thus
 allowing BLTA to 
  further
 leverage for its expansion, and 2) obtain
 more favorable
 valuations by expanding its audience base,
 rather than an 
   exercise
 to re-capitalize. BLTA's cash position is
 strong as the 
 company
 should receive around USD135m in cash
 arising from the sale-
 andleaseback
 of three chemical tankers, booking
 extraordinary gain
 of USD54m, thus lending a hand to its
 expansion plan 
  particularly
 as BLTA has entered the new FPSO business
 segment.
 Nevertheless, there is potential gain to be
 made from the 
   offering
 of the treasury stocks, assuming average
 buyback price of
 IDR2,300/share, there is c.IDR41bn potential
 gain or 3% of 
 06 
  net

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Bagi2 info, ISP satelit, baru tahu nih saya!

2006-09-15 Terurut Topik Santo Vibby
Iya pak Eka... bole minta url nya ? biaya pemasangannya ?
128 Kbps nya 1:1 ?

thx

- Original Message - 
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To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Bagi2 info, ISP satelit, baru tahu nih saya!


 wah Pak Eka, kita mau juga donk... kalo di surabaya kira2 bisa ngga?
 bisa dishare alamat url nya ?

 btw, mengenai UNSP, bisa kasih pencerahan?
 apa alasan bapak mengatakan strong BUY ?
 bukankah harga karet/latex udah turun drastis hampir separuhnya dibanding
 bbrp bulan lalu?

 thanks!

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 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 1:15 PM
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Bagi2 info, ISP satelit, baru tahu nih saya!


 Setelah berkutat lama dgn sambungan internet pelan, dial up, RT/RW net, 
 dsb.
 Lalu ada Speedy, tapi di Bandung Speedy cepetnya cuma 1 bulan pertama,
 sekarang jadi Slowly cuman 12-20 kbps download.

 Saya ditawari orang yg jadi agen Internet Satellite yg kantornya ada di
 Cyber building, Kuningan. 128 kbps real via parabola cuma 90 USD/bulan, 
 trus
 yg 512kbps cuma 170 USD/bulan. Saya coba ditempat yg sudah pasang 128kbps,
 real cepet sekali. ternyata agennya banyak di cyber building. Kita bisa
 langganan 2 way (download-upload) ke satelit asing. Sebenernya nggak boleh
 sih tapi nggak ketahuan asalkan nggak utk dijual lagi. Saya rencana mau 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SPO BLTA mundur lagi ?

2006-09-15 Terurut Topik M Herman
Kayaknya itu malah mengindikasikan listingnya jadi ,
karena emang targetnya skt 1.5t- 1.7 t. Yang di
crosing kan punya company sendiri (broker resmi
perusahaan adalah danatama makmur). Kalau saya pribadi
punya perkiraan listing akan jadi. 

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bro, BLTA hari ini ada TS sebanyak +/- 1,35 juta lot
 oleh II. Ada yang punya
 info? Soalnya saya denger juga Listing di Singapore
 diundur menjadi tahun
 depan. Mohon infonya. Terima Kasih
 
 On 9/15/06, M Herman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Dari 500 milyar obligasi conversi terbit tahun
 lalu,
  yang belum di konversi tinggal 50 milyar...
 
  BLTA emang jago financial engineeringnya, debt to
  equity udah cuma sekitar 1x (kalau pake
 international
  financial reporting standar (IFRS)).
 
  --- redyherinantoalb

[EMAIL PROTECTED]redyherinantoalb%40yahoo.com
  
 
  wrote:
 
   Ya mungkin sampai hari H akan digenjot
 pembeliannya,
   dapatnya berapa
   kekurangannya pinjam Founder Share, so siap2
 aja...
   :D
  
   Redy
  
   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
  spr_serpong
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
YES ! You're right, but  buyback yg tahun
 lalu
   sudah
   dicadangkan
untuk Convertible Bonds bahkan sebagian besar
 sdh
   di konversi jadi
saham
   
   
--- In

obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
  ,
   redyherinantoalb
redyherinantoalb@ wrote:

 Jangan lupa, sebelum program buyback yang
   sekarang, dulu juga
   ada
 program buyback di harga bawah, waktu masih
   seribuan, itu
   treasury
 stock yang mau dijual ada juga founder
   shares yang di
 tawarkan...

 Redy

 --- In

obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
  ,
   spr_serpong
 spr_serpong@ wrote:
 
  If dikatakan : the company has only
 completed
   c.100m shares or
 c.25%
  of allowed numbers of shares to be bought
 back
   – thus another
300m
  shares still outstanding.
 
  jadi kalo 300m shares itu di buyback dlm
 waktu
   30 hari kerja
atau
  sampai akhir oktober artinya tiap hari
 harus
   buyback 10m
   shares
 atau
  20.000 lot, mungkinkah dilakukan ?
 
  so. isu nya ada benernya juga nih...
 
 
  --- In

obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
  ,
   hermanlatief
  hermanlatief@ wrote:
  
   --- In

obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
  ,
   mbahqu mbahqu@
wrote:
   
Isu yg beredar, SPO BLTA mundur dari
   rencana Oktober 2006.
Apa ada yg punya info yg melengkapi ?
   
   kayaknya nggak , ini saya lampirkan
 report
   punya DBS
  
   #56256;#56510; Story: Proposed
 offering in
   SGX has been
 amended,
  canceling
   the issuance 5% new shares, such that
 the
   offering would only
   comprise of treasury shares of up to
 410m
   shares, and
   possibly
in
   conjunction with placement of founder
   shares.
   #56256;#56510; Point: This should have
 no
   impact at all,
   as
 the
  objective of
   secondary listing is to unlock its book
   value rather than to
 raise
   more capital.
   #56256;#56510; Relevance: We maintain
 our
   Strong Buy
   rating
on
  BLTA with
   target price of IDR3,000, with further
   catalyst – beside the
  imminent
   secondary listing - of robust q-o-q
   improvement in the 3Q
 financial
   performance, as strong recovery in oil
   tanker rates has been
   evidenced from its lows in the 2Q, and
   renewed contract
   prices
 for
   chemical tankers effective in this
 quarter.
   We share the
 company's
   view of bullish chemical rates in 07
 given
   expected shift of
   significant cargo volumes to higher
 grade
   IMO II chemical
 vessels on
   the back of new regulations.
  
   What are the changes? The company has
   amended its proposed
   offering in the SGX, eliminating the
   issuance of 5% new
   shares
   without pre-emptive rights, thus the
 initial
   offering would
only
   come from the treasury stocks arising
 from
   current buyback
   program of up to 410m shares (10% of
 total
   outstanding) and
   possibly in conjunction with placement
 of
   founder shares of
   another 410m shares. This is good news
 in
   our view, as
previously
   the company has been at odds with the
 stock
   exchange
   authority,
   as traditionally the 5% new shares
 issuance
   is allocated for
 
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2006-09-15 Terurut Topik profit taker
why fillisya didn't send her metastock data anymore ?
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Cara cepat hitungan harga wajar ANTM !!!!

2006-09-15 Terurut Topik Aria Bela Nusa










 Istilah gampangnya - masih ada room
(ruang) utk naek2 ke atas + bumper-nya ternyata masih
sangat kuat utk menahan



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-Original Message-
From:
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of EKA SUWANDANA
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 12:45 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re:
Cara cepat hitungan harga wajar ANTM 





Harga nickel spot memang koreksi, tapi harga yg
forward 3 bulan nggak turun banyak. Harga forward 3 bulan bertahan diatas 12
USD/lb.











Inget prinsip dagang futures commodities, sekarang utk
nickel perbedaan harga spot yg lebih tinggi dari harga forward/futures,
menandakan growth demand yg tinggi. Berarti situasi supply demand, supply
kekurangan, abnormal, bahasa tradernya: BACKWARDATION
! Ini juga berlaku utk Crude Oil, Cooper, dsb. Menandakan the bull is not over
yet. 











Normalnya kalo pasar seimbang/well balanced , harga
forward 3 bulan seharusnya lebih mahal dari harga spot. Karena harga forward
sudah termasuk , stock maintenance, dan juga sewa gudang, bahasa tradernya,
CONTANGO. Nah kalo kejadian, the bull is over (pasar bisa sideways atau bearish
lama)











Seharusnya ANTM bullish. Mungkin BEJ lagi nggak begitu
dilirik fund asing, liat aja PER TLKM murah sekali. Atau gara2 koreksi
cooper, gold, fund asing lebih seneng trading BHP, Inco (N), FCX, atau RTP (rio
tinto), dimana PER mereka juga sudah murah , dibawah 15x..











ANTM diharga 5300 itu real PER 2006 = 8,2x. 

Karno Edy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:











OK harga nickel turun.





Tapi waktu kenaikan nickel
dulu-dulu, apakah sesuai dgn kenaikan harga ANTM ?





Saham ANTM cuma naik seupil kalo
dibandingkan dengan kenaikan harga nickel, maksud saya harga sekarang
buffer-nya masih banyak (walau sudah turun, harga skrg masih tergolong tinggi).





Kuartal ketiga yang tinggal setengah
bulan lagi, ane yakin akan menghasilkan peningkatan kinerja yang signifikan.





Entah kalau kuartal ke empat harga
nickel turun tajam, tapi at least lapkeu Q3 yg akan keluar di penghujung 2006
yakin bagus !





Kuartal ke empat, ane pikir harga
rata2 nikel seburuk-buruknya tidak akan lebih rendah dari kuartal 1 2006.











Lapkeu FY ended2006 ane
prediksi meningkat tajam.











Lapkeu2007 kemungkinan turun
seiring penurunan harga komoditi.











Cheers,





Karno













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From: up_trends 





To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com






Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 10:25 AM





Subject:
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Cara cepat hitungan harga wajar ANTM 













harga nickel turun lagi. hati hati,as i said, let ANTM
make 6 days 
support, then collect. thx

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
Frederick Schubert 
pemainbesar@... wrote:

 it's hard to explainbut ANTM will never break above 5,700 
stubborn-resistance
 
 
 Elly Tjung [EMAIL PROTECTED]. wrote:
 hi semuanya , terus terang saya oon ttg saham, tolong 
saya diberi pelajaran . 
 
 EKA SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED].. wrote: Dulu saya pernah kursus 
fundamental saham di Megadana Milenium, disitu diajarkan macem2 cara 
hitung saham, mulai yg termudah, tercepat, sampai yg tersulit.
 
 Saya lihat target pak Irwan Ariston utk ANTM hasilnya deket2 dgn 
cara cepat yg dulu pernah diajarkan Mr. X di Megadana. 
 
 Gini caranya:
 
 Jumlah Aktiva Lancar dikurangi Jml.kewajiban lancar, kurangi dgn 
biaya dimuka. Dapet hasilnya bagi dgn jumlah saham. Sebut hasilnya N.
 
 Trus hitung earning power, dgn cara adjust laba bersih , karena 
ANTM rugi kurs besar, jumlahkan laba bersih dgn rugi kurs, dan 
tambahkan lain2 bersih (nggak banyak bisa nggak usah di tambahkan).
 
 Hasilnya bagi dgn jml saham. Annualised (utk h1 2006 kalikan 2)! 
Asumsikan PER 10x. Jadi kalikan 10. 
 
 Dapat hasilnya jumlahkan dgn N diatas tadi.
 
 
 Nih kalo penasaran saya attach.
 
 By the way cara ini menghasilkan harga wajar dibawah harga DCF, 
biasanya hasilnya kemurahan. Tapi sering saya pakai kalo saya cuma 
dapet ringkasan laporan keuangan yg ada dikoran, tanpa cash flow 
report. Saya sarankan kalo dapet laporan keuangan yg lengkap use 
something else.
 
 Saya dapat di kisaran 7000. Itu utk 1h06, dimana Feni III cuma 
beroperasi penuh 2 bulan. Kalo full year bisa lebih karena awal 
November Feni III udah jalan lagi, plus harga nickel masih tinggi 
sudah 12,9 USD/lb utk kontrak 3 bulan.
 
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SPO BLTA mundur lagi ?

2006-09-15 Terurut Topik Aria Bela Nusa










Memang betul
termasuk growth (co + stock)
 di antaranya:




BLTA


PGAS


ADHI (termasuk
property sector + kalo
berhasil sih Corporate Action/event-nya)



Aria





-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of M Herman
Sent: Friday, September
 15, 2006 11:25 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SPO BLTA mundur lagi ?



Dari 500 milyar obligasi conversi terbit tahun lalu,

yang belum di konversi tinggal 50 milyar...



BLTA emang jago financial engineeringnya, debt to

equity udah cuma sekitar 1x (kalau pake international

financial reporting standar (IFRS)). 





--- redyherinantoalb [EMAIL PROTECTED]

wrote:



 Ya mungkin sampai hari H akan digenjot pembeliannya,

 dapatnya berapa 

 kekurangannya pinjam Founder Share, so siap2 aja...

 :D

 

 Redy

 

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, spr_serpong

 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 

  YES ! You're right, but  buyback yg tahun lalu

 sudah 

 dicadangkan 

  untuk Convertible Bonds bahkan sebagian besar sdh

 di konversi jadi 

  saham

  

  

  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,

 redyherinantoalb 

  redyherinantoalb@ wrote:

  

   Jangan lupa, sebelum program buyback yang

 sekarang, dulu juga 

 ada 

   program buyback di harga bawah, waktu masih

 seribuan, itu 

 treasury 

   stock yang mau dijual ada juga founder

 shares yang di 

   tawarkan... 

   

   Redy

   

   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,

 spr_serpong 

   spr_serpong@ wrote:

   

If dikatakan : the company has only completed

 c.100m shares or 

   c.25% 

of allowed numbers of shares to be bought back

  thus another 

  300m 

shares still outstanding.



jadi kalo 300m shares itu di buyback dlm waktu

 30 hari kerja 

  atau 

sampai akhir oktober artinya tiap hari harus

 buyback 10m 

 shares 

   atau 

20.000 lot, mungkinkah dilakukan ?



so. isu nya ada benernya juga nih...





--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,

 hermanlatief 

hermanlatief@ wrote:



 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,

 mbahqu mbahqu@ 

  wrote:

 

  Isu yg beredar, SPO BLTA mundur dari

 rencana Oktober 2006.

  Apa ada yg punya info yg melengkapi ?

 

 kayaknya nggak , ini saya lampirkan report

 punya DBS 

 

 #56256;#56510; Story: Proposed
offering in

 SGX has been 

   amended, 

canceling

 the issuance 5% new shares, such that the

 offering would only

 comprise of treasury shares of up to 410m

 shares, and 

 possibly 

  in

 conjunction with placement of founder

 shares.

 #56256;#56510; Point: This should
have no

 impact at all, 

 as 

   the 

objective of

 secondary listing is to unlock its book

 value rather than to 

   raise

 more capital.

 #56256;#56510; Relevance: We
maintain our

 Strong Buy 

 rating 

  on 

BLTA with

 target price of IDR3,000, with further

 catalyst  beside the 

imminent

 secondary listing - of robust q-o-q

 improvement in the 3Q 

   financial

 performance, as strong recovery in oil

 tanker rates has been

 evidenced from its lows in the 2Q, and

 renewed contract 

 prices 

   for

 chemical tankers effective in this quarter.

 We share the 

   company's

 view of bullish chemical rates in 07 given

 expected shift of

 significant cargo volumes to higher grade

 IMO II chemical 

   vessels on

 the back of new regulations.

 

 What are the changes? The company has

 amended its proposed

 offering in the SGX, eliminating the

 issuance of 5% new 

 shares

 without pre-emptive rights, thus the initial

 offering would 

  only

 come from the treasury stocks arising from

 current buyback

 program of up to 410m shares (10% of total

 outstanding) and

 possibly in conjunction with placement of

 founder shares of

 another 410m shares. This is good news in

 our view, as 

  previously

 the company has been at odds with the stock

 exchange 

 authority,

 as traditionally the 5% new shares issuance

 is allocated for 

 a

 private placement with a 12-month lock up

 period, instead of 

 a

 public offering.

 Why the secondary listing? Worthy of note is

 that the 

  objective 

   of

 the secondary listing is to 1) unlock

 company's book value, 

 as

 assets would be marked to market (FY06 P/BV

 should drop to

 estimated 1.4x from current 2.7x), thus

 allowing BLTA to 

  further

 leverage for its expansion, and 2) obtain

 more favorable

 valuations by expanding its audience base,

 rather than an 

   exercise

 to re-capitalize. BLTA's cash position is

 strong as the 

 company

 should receive around USD135m in cash

 arising from the sale-

 andleaseback

 of three chemical tankers, booking

 extraordinary gain

 of 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Cara cepat hitungan harga wajar ANTM !!!!

2006-09-15 Terurut Topik Karno Edy





Kemarin jumping lagi, turun 6% ke 
12.5-an
Angka aman pertama di 10.



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Aria 
  Bela Nusa 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Cc: saham@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 8:34 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Cara 
  cepat hitungan harga wajar ANTM 
  
  
  
  
   
  Istilah gampangnya 
  - masih ada room (ruang) 
  utk naek2 ke atas + bumper-nya 
  ternyata masih sangat kuat utk menahan…
  
   
  Aria
  
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  [mailto:obrolan-[EMAIL PROTECTED]ps.com] On Behalf Of EKA SUWANDANASent: Friday, 
  September 15, 2006 12:45 
  PMTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Cara 
  cepat hitungan harga wajar ANTM 

  
  
  Harga nickel spot memang koreksi, tapi harga yg 
  forward 3 bulan nggak turun banyak. Harga forward 3 bulan bertahan diatas 12 
  USD/lb.
  
  
  
  Inget prinsip dagang futures commodities, sekarang utk 
  nickel perbedaan harga spot yg lebih tinggi dari harga forward/futures, 
  menandakan growth demand yg tinggi. Berarti situasi supply demand, supply 
  kekurangan, abnormal, bahasa tradernya: BACKWARDATION ! Ini juga berlaku utk 
  Crude Oil, Cooper, dsb. Menandakan the bull is not over yet. 
  
  
  
  
  Normalnya kalo pasar seimbang/well balanced , harga 
  forward 3 bulan seharusnya lebih mahal dari harga spot. Karena harga forward 
  sudah termasuk , stock maintenance, dan juga sewa gudang, bahasa tradernya, 
  CONTANGO. Nah kalo kejadian, the bull is over (pasar bisa sideways atau 
  bearish lama)
  
  
  
  Seharusnya ANTM bullish. Mungkin BEJ lagi nggak begitu 
  dilirik fund asing, liat aja PER TLKM murah sekali. Atau gara2 koreksi 
  cooper, gold, fund asing lebih seneng trading BHP, Inco (N), FCX, atau RTP 
  (rio tinto), dimana PER mereka juga sudah murah , dibawah 
  15x..
  
  
  
  ANTM diharga 5300 itu real PER 2006 = 8,2x. 
  Karno 
  Edy [EMAIL PROTECTED]com 
  wrote:
  



OK harga nickel 
turun.

Tapi waktu kenaikan nickel 
dulu-dulu, apakah sesuai dgn kenaikan harga ANTM 
?

Saham ANTM cuma naik seupil kalo 
dibandingkan dengan kenaikan harga nickel, maksud saya harga sekarang 
buffer-nya masih banyak (walau sudah turun, harga skrg masih tergolong 
tinggi).

Kuartal ketiga yang tinggal 
setengah bulan lagi, ane yakin akan menghasilkan peningkatan kinerja yang 
signifikan.

Entah kalau kuartal ke empat 
harga nickel turun tajam, tapi at least lapkeu Q3 yg akan keluar di 
penghujung 2006 yakin bagus !

Kuartal ke empat, ane pikir 
harga rata2 nikel seburuk-buruknya tidak akan lebih rendah dari kuartal 1 
2006.



Lapkeu FY ended2006 ane 
prediksi meningkat tajam.



Lapkeu2007 kemungkinan 
turun seiring penurunan harga komoditi.



Cheers,

Karno



  
  - Original Message - 
  
  
  From: up_trends 
  
  
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  
  Sent: 
  Friday, September 15, 
  2006 10:25 
  AM
  
  Subject: 
  [obrolan-bandar] Re: Cara cepat hitungan harga wajar ANTM 
  
  
  
  
  
  harga nickel turun lagi. hati hati,as i said, let 
  ANTM make 6 days support, then collect. thx--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, 
  Frederick Schubert pemainbesar@... wrote: 
  it's hard to explainbut ANTM will never break above 5,700 
  stubborn-resistance   Elly Tjung 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]. wrote: hi semuanya , terus terang saya 
  oon ttg saham, tolong saya diberi pelajaran .   EKA 
  SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED].. wrote: Dulu saya pernah kursus 
  fundamental saham di Megadana Milenium, disitu diajarkan macem2 cara 
  hitung saham, mulai yg termudah, tercepat, sampai yg tersulit. 
   Saya lihat target pak Irwan Ariston utk ANTM hasilnya deket2 dgn 
  cara cepat yg dulu pernah diajarkan Mr. X di Megadana.  
   Gini caranya:  Jumlah Aktiva Lancar dikurangi 
  Jml.kewajiban lancar, kurangi dgn biaya dimuka. Dapet hasilnya bagi 
  dgn jumlah saham. Sebut hasilnya N.  Trus hitung earning 
  power, dgn cara adjust laba bersih , karena ANTM rugi kurs besar, 
  jumlahkan laba bersih dgn rugi kurs, dan tambahkan lain2 bersih (nggak 
  banyak bisa nggak usah di tambahkan).  Hasilnya bagi dgn 
  jml saham. Annualised (utk h1 2006 kalikan 2)! Asumsikan PER 10x. Jadi 
  kalikan 10.   Dapat hasilnya jumlahkan dgn N diatas 
  tadi.   Nih kalo penasaran saya attach. 
   By the way cara ini menghasilkan harga wajar dibawah harga DCF, 
  biasanya hasilnya kemurahan. Tapi sering saya pakai kalo saya cuma 
  dapet ringkasan laporan keuangan yg ada dikoran, tanpa cash flow 
  report. Saya sarankan kalo dapet laporan keuangan yg lengkap 

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Tutorial RAPIDSHARE : Bagaimana Men-download dari Rapidshare (DiSertai GAMBA

2006-09-15 Terurut Topik mircmonkee
Have the corrupted files been fixed yet?
Please respond here. 
Thanks

--
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===

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to Building
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==

Thanks again,
MircMonkee






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   15. William F Eng - The Day Trader's Manual
   14. George Angell - Sniper Trading
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Bagi2 info, ISP satelit, baru tahu nih saya!

2006-09-15 Terurut Topik Yunan Yusmanto



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[obrolan-bandar] Re: A treasure of Stock Trading Books

2006-09-15 Terurut Topik mircmonkee
Wondo, Bro, what happened to file numbers: 3,5,8,10,12,17,42,43?

This rapidshare is not too RAPID, esp the FREE downloads. Makes me
wait inbetween each download if I download using broadband. If I use
dial up, well do u know how long it takes to download 21 or even 12
megs on dailup, yes a lifetime.
Is there any other way we can download these large files besides
rapidshare?

How about the following?
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http://www.pando.com/beta/

Thanx again for the great ebooks
Keep the good work up. I for one am greatful.
Now if only I knew how to read. Joking, joking
MircMonkee












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 Dear all;
   mungkin ada manfaatnya buat kita semua.

   peace
   wondo :_)


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