[obrolan-bandar] warning UNSP, pak BuSur??

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik dazzledtrader
Pak BuSur, UNSP sekarang sudah 1200. Is this the perfect time to BUY? 
Thanks.

Warmest regards,
-Darmawan

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 TRUB beleh dikata konsisten rally setelah break diatas highestnya, 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB...TRUB..!!!.has broken its high

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Bayou HP
Hehehe...
Saya demen nih mr. Busur.. selalu ada alert nya ketika suatu saham mencapai 
highest disertai volume yg besar..

Thnk's Mr. Busur.. Always remember kita² semua...


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RE: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB...TRUB..!!!.has broken its high

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Snoopy
Pak Busur,

Di 770 nya siraman nech.hajar aja yah.he.he.he..

 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Sedia payung dan jaket sebelum hujan!

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Frederick Schubert
hahahaha nice.nice
  let's see whether the market tomorrow (Tuesday rite..?) will be just upsided 
down from what you are expecting.
  cheers

Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jaketnya om.. Payung om.. dari pada basah kuyup kena guyur om.. BMG 
atau Badan Meramal Guyuran dari Republik Mimpi mengindikasikan bahwa Yakarta 
besok akan diguyur hujan lebat. Untuk yang mau jalan besok hari diminta membawa 
perlengkapan tambahan seperti jaket dan payung atau uang ekstra untuk ojek 
payung jika harus bepergian atau kalau tidak mempunyai rencana mendesak 
disarankan untuk tunggu di rumah sampai guyuran hujan reda. Siap-siap tunggu 
panggilan tante Marginong untuk yang sudah pake servisnya.. CMIIW.. 
   
  Tukang Ojek Payung 
   
   
  

 

 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] TINS, How Low Can U Go

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik gitto kurniasanto
wh kalo CUMA denger kabar mah bisa balik ke 1500an^^...santai aja pak... 
udah sell dong saudara?? saya si udah rekomen sell sehari sebelom turun-baca 
posting saya ttg CNKO-...mungkin besok bisa mulai dikolek lagi TINS nya pak...

salam hangat,
gitto kurniasanto

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Kira-kira,
Koreksi TINS sampai serendah apa ya? Denger kabar kok mau sampai 6.000? 
Benarkah?

KIra2 bakal naik lagi nggak ya...








RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Possible FUTURE IHSG movement ?

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Sunowo Dwijanarko
BOZZ... martil -nye cakep banget hari ini... tapi buntut-nye agak kurang 
panjang dikit tuh.. bikin bingung mo masuk apa kagak... gue tunggu besok 
yah... c ya


From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Possible FUTURE IHSG movement ?
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 05:29:14 -

Closing sesi 1:

- Tidak terasa IHSG udah turun -38 point dari SIGNAL LAMPU
   TEPLOK di 1823...
- Saat ini lagi consolidasi di level Fibonacci Retracement
   38% wave D..

Kita saksikan lagi gerakan Price wave pada sesi 2...


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  13:57
 
  Lampu teplok udah dinyalakan (+18%), IHSG +6 di 1823...
 
  Mungkin sebentar lagi akan kita lihat:
  - Terminal Wave D pada Pattern Contracting Triangle pattern (CT)
atau/versus:
  - Beginning of Wave 3 kalo CT tidak terbentuk...
 


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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Sedia payung dan jaket sebelum hujan!

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik hilman anugraha
Observing your few last postings on this discussion group, i hardly noticed any 
use of your comments. They are either discrediting or only making fun of people 
with genuine idea or thought.  Sometimes even concern or fear. And most of the 
time you act like you control the price of things, like Mr Richie RIch.
   
  Sorry, oneliner.
   
   
  
Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hahahaha nice.nice
  let's see whether the market tomorrow (Tuesday rite..?) will be just upsided 
down from what you are expecting.
  cheers

Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jaketnya om.. Payung om.. dari pada basah kuyup kena guyur om.. BMG 
atau Badan Meramal Guyuran dari Republik Mimpi mengindikasikan bahwa Yakarta 
besok akan diguyur hujan lebat. Untuk yang mau jalan besok hari diminta membawa 
perlengkapan tambahan seperti jaket dan payung atau uang ekstra untuk ojek 
payung jika harus bepergian atau kalau tidak mempunyai rencana mendesak 
disarankan untuk tunggu di rumah sampai guyuran hujan reda. Siap-siap tunggu 
panggilan tante Marginong untuk yang sudah pake servisnya.. CMIIW.. 
   
  Tukang Ojek Payung 
   
   
  




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[obrolan-bandar] THANKS for ALL....Re: BANDARISME MECHANISM; BRPT just a sample. (1)

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q
Thanks Mbah (atas wejangannya)and ALL of youguysthx for 
ALL APPRECIATION.
Yang jelas ini semua bisa terjadi atas karunia Yang di Atas... 

Saya bukan ikan PAUS Mbah tapi ikan TERI.
Karena saking kecilnya membuat BOZZ tidak akan berselera memakan 
saya, soalnya di piringnya hanya ada SATU ekor. 
Pasti cuman dibuat SLILIT...

Bicara Bandar di semua sisi kehidupan pasti ada bandarnya….
Karena alam sdh membuat hukumnya demikian...
Di bursa ini BOZZ ngajak kita semua LEBIH PINTER.
Nggak pa2 kalau beliau SELALU lebih pinter dari yg PALING  pinter di 
antara kita.
Yang jelas ntar khan ada KEMAJUAN masalah pinternya…
Kalau Mbah pernah bilang ANTI POLIGAMI
Dari berbagai Bandar yg saya ketahui saya paling ANTI BANDAR SEMBAKO.
Soalnya kerjaannya ngerjain orang susah...

Yang pasti ini bukan ulasan saya yg TERAKHIR...
BOZZ nggak perlu khawatir...
Dari dulu sudah saya nyatakan bahwa saya CUMAN pengen membuat 
pertandingan di bursa ini LEBIH MENARIK.
Tak ada buka2an masalah rahasia 
perusahaan.NEVEReventhought I know!?
Just discuss your technique and strategy...
Stay calm BOZZ...

Guys...wish me LUCK!
Supaya KARIER saya tidak berhenti utk terus memprovokasi  anda 
semua...
Kalau sudah TUMPUL tinggal dibalik aja semua rekomendasinya…
Tapi kalau sudah bosen yah di delete saja setiap posting saya...OK!
Hehehe...


Best regards


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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tapi embah ingatkan: 
 - KETENARAN atau KEHEBATAN dibursa besifat SELF DESTRUCTION 
 
 Makin HEBAT analisa seseorang MAKIN TUMPUL hasilnya 
 
 Banyak analis JAGOAN memasuki SENJA KARIERnya jika tulisan
 nya mulai ditunggu-tunggu PEMBACAnya dikoran. Sejarah sudah 
 banyak mencatat phenomena INI...
 
 Note:
 - Phenomena ini mungkin terjadi karena terlalu banyak
   PIGGYBACK alias gerbong penumpang terlalu penuh dengan
   FANS yang ikut naik gerbong karena membaca rekomendasi
   si Jagoan.
 - Ketika BB melihat gerbong penuh, ia melihat gerbong tsb
   seperti gerbong berisi Pinokio dan anak anak kecil yang lagi 
   diajak ke WONDER LAND untuk disembelih...
 - Bursa berbeda dengan Politik, makin tenar seseorang makin
   mungkin PRINSIP CONTRARIAN berlaku padanya. Makin hebat
   dia makin MUNGKIN dia diTELAN ikan HIU berikut FANSnya 
   ikut tertelan... 
 
 Tapi embah doakan agar pak Ontoeng selain hebat, juga jadi
 ikan PAUS supaya ikan HIU menyegani dan TETAP berteman dengan
 pak Oentoeng... hehehe
 
 
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 consultant@ wrote:
 
  Cukup Dua kata untuk menjelaskan the phenomenal Oentoeng,
  yaitu ANAK AJAIB...
  
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Santo Vibby vibby@ 
  wrote:
  
   Hehehehe... Mr. Oentoeng is a very nice person..
   
   sewaktu dapet kesempatan ngobrol panjang di Surabaya dulu, 
saya 
  sangat salut dengan beliau dan merasa mendapatkan kehormatan 
serta 
  seorang teman berharga. 
   
   
   Bravo Mr. Oent.. dalam social livingnya P'Oentoeng emang type 
yg 
  sangat gampang berteman sana sini, tidak heran untuk 
 resources 'Laci 
  si Bos' beliaulah jagoannya :D
   
   
 - Original Message - 
 From: oentoeng_q 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 6:12 PM
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BANDARISME MECHANISM; BRPT just a 
  sample. (1)
   
   
 Untuk kesekian kalinya BRPT telah mencapai 850 dan saat ini 
sdh 
 bertengger di atasnya. Semoga perjalanan tsb bisa menjadi 
 pembelajaran kita semua...
   
 Beberapa saat lalu tgl 24/1/07 Edy DJ. menulis sbb;
   
 BRPT: 780-900. A turn around story... It business has 
improved 
 after debt restructuring and financial engineering. It looks 
  like 
 that it is now the cheapest forestry company compared to its 
  Asian 
 peers. BUY on weakness as it may return to IDR2,000 level in 
12 
 months.
 Walaupun target di atas diperbaharui lagi harganya di 
kemudian 
 hari...
   
 Lesson 1;
 Kelihatan mulai banyak orang tahu apa yg sedang terjadi di 
BRPT.
 Maksud saya; Big Players (Bandar) mestinya mempunyai AKSES 
jauh 
 lebih AKURAT dan MENDAHULUI dibandingkan yg LAIN..
 Karena itu mereka berani membandari.
 Logikanya kalau tdk punya ALASAN yg KUAT (dasar FA kata 
orang) 
 sangat beresiko beli saham dlm jumlah BESAR, apalagi pake 
NIAT 
 membandari...
   
 Lesson 2;
 Bicara dasar riset kebanyakan bandar2 sudah punya analis 
atau 
 riset sendiri
 Sbg contoh; BRPT sdh naik dari 500 sd 850 masih byk trader 
  bilang 
 ini saham GORENGAN, utk menutupi ketidaktahuan mereka thd 
  saham yg 
 dibicarakan.
 Ntar kalau harga sdh di atas 1000 baru RISET asing maupun 
lokal 
  akan 
 BERMUNCULAN!?
 Artinya ada proses WAKTU dan PEMBUKTIAN HARGA yg lumayan 
JAUH 
  baru 
 para analis berani melakukan ANALISA.
   
 Waktu BRPT masih dibwh 500, saat para gajah bergerilya di 
  BRPT...byk 
 yg bilang kalau:
  

[obrolan-bandar] data metastock saham / ihsg ?

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Hotma Sirait
mohon bantuan informasi-nya di website mana bisa mendapatkan data saham / ihsg 
hari ini (senin, 26 februari 2007) yang sudah di-convert menjadi data metastock 
siap pakai ?

thanks,

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Sedia payung dan jaket sebelum hujan!

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik James Arifin

He control lots of portfolio so desperately displeased if lots of trader
shorting the stock and could cause temporary profit recording ... heheheh

On 2/26/07, hilman anugraha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   Observing your few last postings on this discussion group, i hardly
noticed any use of your comments. They are either discrediting or only
making fun of people with genuine idea or thought.  Sometimes even concern
or fear. And most of the time you act like you control the price of things,
like Mr Richie RIch.

Sorry, oneliner.



*Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

 hahahaha nice.nice
let's see whether the market tomorrow (Tuesday rite..?) will be just
upsided down from what you are expecting.
cheers

*Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

 Jaketnya om.. Payung om.. dari pada basah kuyup kena guyur om.. BMG atau
Badan Meramal Guyuran dari Republik Mimpi mengindikasikan bahwa Yakarta
besok akan diguyur hujan lebat. Untuk yang mau jalan besok hari diminta
membawa perlengkapan tambahan seperti jaket dan payung atau uang ekstra
untuk ojek payung jika harus bepergian atau kalau tidak mempunyai rencana
mendesak disarankan untuk tunggu di rumah sampai guyuran hujan reda.
Siap-siap tunggu panggilan tante Marginong untuk yang sudah pake servisnya..
CMIIW..

Tukang Ojek Payung




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Re: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB...TRUB..!!!.has broken its high

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Masrivana Yusran
Salute P' Busur..anyway...TRUB masuk di 780/790 msh ok ga ? target amp brp ?  
mksi bgt Pak :=D
  - Original Message - 
  From: budi suryono 
  To: milis aati ; Teddy Atmadja ; obrolan bandar ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; iwan 
ismail ; alvi janti ; junior ; winy Tijono 
  Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 2:52 PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB...TRUB..!!!.has broken its high


  TRUB beleh dikata konsisten rally setelah break diatas highestnya, now break 
its all time high,buy TRUB now!!!



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] data metastock saham / ihsg ?

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik sains kompleksitas

Pak Hotma S

download aja di
http://www.hok1-investama.com/index.php?option=com_docmantask=cat_viewgid=20Itemid=33

cara convert download aja di
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/hok1-investama/files/

tapi harus gabung dulu, free kok pak

terimakasih

Alex



On 2/26/07, Hotma Sirait [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  mohon bantuan informasi-nya di website mana bisa mendapatkan data saham
/ ihsg hari ini (senin, 26 februari 2007) yang sudah di-convert menjadi data
metastock siap pakai ?

thanks,

hotma sirait

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] warning UNSP, pak BuSur??

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik budi suryono
ya bisa pak,hanya masalah opportunity dan reward ,saaf ini saya lagi 
konsentrasi di trub,unsp bisa saya follow up nanti setelah urusan dgn trub 
selesai.Dlm trading stock tdk ada istilah terlambat atau beli ketinggian 
  salam

dazzledtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Pak BuSur, UNSP sekarang sudah 1200. Is this the perfect time to BUY? 
Thanks.

Warmest regards,
-Darmawan

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] TINS cuma turun Rp.700,- ( PTBA batu loncatan)

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Rei
Wah, pak jack masih penasaran ama tins yah? Hehe... Saya juga pengen lihat 
sampai mana tins akan turun atau mungkin naik kembali. Tap saya rasa, mulai 
ditinggalkan pak sampai kapan2 bandar balik lagi...Saya mungkin salah lho.

Jack Cowok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Sebenarnya TINS hari ini cuma 
turun Rp.700.
  Yang Rp.500 hanya kehebatan si Perencana membuat pembukaan yg bagus.
   
  Yang buang tidak lari jauh koq. Sudah pindah ke PTBA.
   
  Bagi yang punya PTBA hati-hati saja. Main pendek.
   
  Saham ini naik karena kena kutu loncat.
   
   
   

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[obrolan-bandar] APBN 2008, PTBA

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik EKA SUWANDANA
Kabarnya dana rel double track Trans Sumatera yg melewati /cakup tambang PTBA 
akan diajukan utk APBN 2008 Mudah2an kejadian.
   
  So ada 2 kejadian utk 'masuk' kembali ke PTBA:
   
  1. Trans Sumatera Rail--double track , dananya disetujui DPR utk 2008
  2.  Tetep yg paling besar-tunggu apakah Pemerintah mau bangun 
'INTERKONEKSI LISTRIK' SUMATERA-JAWA.
   
   
  Kalo itu sudah ada news nya beli PTBA.


Re: [obrolan-bandar] Nickel and Lead Rise to Records on the London Metal Exchange

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Teddy Halim

26 Feb 09:30[image: Premium Service
only]javascript:OpenPopup(HelpItem.aspx?Code=AVreps,BaseMetals,scrollbars=yes,width=400,height=450,)
*Technical Analysis - Tin - expect further
consolidationjavascript:OpenPopup(HelpItem.aspx?Code=AVreps,BaseMetals,scrollbars=yes,width=400,height=450,)
*BaseMetals.com William Adams - The daily chart shows had started to look
overbought, but much as expected prices started to consolidate on Friday.
This consolidation may run a little longer especially now the T.I. have
turned 
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On 2/26/07, Joe Grunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601012sid=atChbaWMLV70refer=commodities26
Feb 12:32
*Nickel and Lead Rise to Records on the London Metal 
Exchangehttp://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601012sid=atChbaWMLV70refer=commodities
*Bloomberg - Nickel climbed to a record for a second day and lead posted a
new high for a seventh consecutive session on the London Metal Exchange.
Nickel for delivery in three months on the LME advanced $400, or 1 percent,
to $41,200 a metric ton 
ashttp://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601012sid=atChbaWMLV70refer=commodities

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] switching pgas ke antm, bijak kah ?

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik EKA SUWANDANA
ANTM FENI III sudah Monetized, sudah jalan tinggal lihat report Q1, Q2, Q3, 
2007 dst.
  SSWJ PGAS belum tuh? Harga nickel sudah melambung tembus all time high 
40800$/MT, harga gas di peg nggak ikut harga pasar.
   
  Jangka panjang harga PGAS nggak akan nyusul ANTM apalagi nanti sesudah tahun 
2009 (Tayan Project).
  

Eddie Sindunata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Saya setuju.
  PGASnya nggak usah di cut loss, dlm jangka panjang akan naik.
   
  Salam,
  Eddie
- Original Message - 
  From: Andhy Sulistiawan 
  To: saham@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 3:44 AM
  Subject: Re: [saham] switching pgas ke antm, bijak kah ?
  

  DUA-DUANYA BAGUS, TIDAK USAH DISWITCH
  NAMBAH AJA...

gunawan junaidi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Dear Senior,
Saya punya PGAS nyangkut di atas, per jumat PGAS hrg nya lebih tinggi
dari ANTM, apakah bijak untuk switching pgas ke antm hr senin ?

thx
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[obrolan-bandar] TINS cuma turun Rp.700,- ( PTBA batu loncatan)

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Jack Cowok
Sebenarnya TINS hari ini cuma turun Rp.700.
  Yang Rp.500 hanya kehebatan si Perencana membuat pembukaan yg bagus.
   
  Yang buang tidak lari jauh koq. Sudah pindah ke PTBA.
   
  Bagi yang punya PTBA hati-hati saja. Main pendek.
   
  Saham ini naik karena kena kutu loncat.
   
   
   

 
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[obrolan-bandar] Untuk PAK ABAH Listen! Buy ANTM INCO, Mentality plays

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik EKA SUWANDANA
Itu asumsi PER 10-11x dapet dikisaran diatas 2,6T.
  Asumsi Nickel 28000$/MT, ferronickel 23000MT.
  Nggak optimis2 amat kan.
   
  Nggak , saya nggak emosi. Kita invest di saham berarti sudah siap menhadapi 
kapitalisme.
  So mental kita harus kuat dan bisa analisa. Sangat wajar orang pertama invest 
di saham takut, lihat harga koreksi dikit gemetar!
  Tapi kalo ngerti bisnisnya ngerti fundamental, It just like you have faith. 
  Saya ada semacam investor club dgn teman2, yg isinya pegawai2 ANTM, PTBA, 
TLKM, Hutchinson, ada pegawai swasta asing lainnya. Dari mereka dapat data 
diolah dihitung, dan lucunya karena beginner lihat BEIRUT di bom ISRAEL Juni 
lalu, semua panik, sebagian besar hilang barang (banyaknya ANTM)karena saat itu 
ANTM ikut koreksi gila2an. Padahal ketika sentuh 3800an saya tahu At LEAST, 
ANTM akhir 2006 harus balik ke 8000. Lucunya teman2 ANTM ini ikutan panik jual 
saham employer nya sendiri.
   
  So Saat itu saya sudah kehilangan akal meyakinkan mereka...munculah kata2 
meludah itu.
  Tapi setelah November sebelum lebaran mereka sadar beli lagi di 6000an 
...bahwa Fundamental itu bisa disejajarkan seperti ilmu pasti...know they 
realise. Mulai saat ini kawan2 dekat saya benar2 Tahan Mental(terbukti ketika 
INCO diguyur sampai 25400 malah nambah)sedikit2 saya bimbing walau agak 
susah apalagi latar belakang mereka kebanyakan teknik (Biasanya orang punya 
title IR, ST, agak meremehkan  ilmu2 ekonomi, akunting, apalagi sosial, Believe 
me guy   all knwledge count) !
   
  Lihat ANTM grwoth nya masih panjang, satu2nya FEAR FACTOR hanya harga 
nickel/logam! Selama harga nickel nggak jatuh, masih bisa hold utk 7 tahun ke 
depan.
  Ada proyek Alumina Tayan 2009, Alumina Bintan, Feni IV 2010, Weda Bay 2012, 
Ferronickel Smelter dgn BHP 2012.
  Akan semakin kompleks hitung ANTM sesudah 2009, kenapa nggak beli sekarang 
ketika hitungan masih murah dan undervalued. Bisa dilepas dulu/SHORT nanti 
akhir tahun 2008-2009, ketika saya yakin nickel di puncaknya.
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  

kang kenghong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
LONDON (Dow Jones)--Renewed bullishness on commodities from funds in 
particular is pulling spot gold higher Friday as inflationary fears return to 
the fore. 
  As of 1540 GMT, spot gold was trading at $688.65 a troy ounce, up 2% on the 
day and 5% on the week. 
  
NEWS ALERT - Nickel rockets to new all-time high on LME, up five percent
   
   LME NICKEL HITS NEW ALL-TIME HIGH OF $40,750/T, UP 4.7 PCT 
   
  Buy ANTM  INCO
   
   
  GBU
   
  
Irwan Ariston Napitupulu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Waduh, Pak Eka sampai emosi begitu:)
Yang sabar, Pak.

Pak Eka, boleh saya diinformasikan hitungan
target 14000 sebelum Desember 2007 itu memakai
future PE berapa? Atau berapa perkiraan total
laba untuk tahun 2007 ini dengan asumsi di
harga berapa masing2 metalnya.
Kalau Pak Eka juga memperhitungkan growth nya,
mungkin bisa di share sekalian perkiraan Pak
Eka untuk 5 tahun ke depan berapa rata2 growthnya
ANTM.

Kalau hanya pakai perkiraan laba 2006 dari Pak Eka
yang 1.5T, jelas harga ANTM sekarang sudah cukup
mahal dengan PE 11,5x. Tapi tentunya kita investasi
di saham bukan lihat past tapi lihat future nya.
Saya yakin Pak Eka punya perhitungan sendiri.

Terima kasih sebelumnya, Pak. 

jabat erat,
Irwan Ariston Napitupulu

--- In saham@yahoogroups.com, EKA SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Taruhan Labanya bakal 1,5 Triliun lebih sedikit!
 Berani nggak kalo perlu kita ke notaris Tgl 28!
 Taruhan juga ANTM bakal 14000 sebelum desember 2007.
 Ke notaris!
 
 Saya sih bukan analis pake Disclaimer tai kucing!!!
 Udah dari jaman 1000 saya bilang bakal 3000, jaman
 3000 saya bilang bakal 8000. Tanya orang2 dimilis
 Saham dan OB sini. Dulu saya di milis saham ketika
 ANTM masih 1300 saya bilang bakal 3000, di MAKI2! 
 

  
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[obrolan-bandar] Nickel and Lead Rise to Records on the London Metal Exchange

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Joe Grunk
26 Feb 12:32
Nickel and Lead Rise to Records on the London Metal ExchangeBloomberg - Nickel 
climbed to a record for a second day and lead posted a new high for a seventh 
consecutive session on the London Metal Exchange. Nickel for delivery in three 
months on the LME advanced $400, or 1 percent, to $41,200 a metric ton as

 
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[obrolan-bandar] RE: [saham] Prediksi_Teknikal_TINS

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Aria Bela Nusa
TINS is still being down recently - why :

  a.. It's mega-over bought + gapping-down
  b.. Trade number is all weak
  c.. Target is already accomplished (remember the chart - parabolic curve)
+ no catalyst needed
  d.. It has top value with 326 M - but the fact is going-down
After the fall - it's not automatically up, up  away then - but there is
also other probability to side-aways (flat) eventually...

regards,

Aria



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  From: saham@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
James Arifin
  Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 6:21 PM
  To: saham@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [saham] Prediksi_Teknikal_TINS


  Naik 1650 dalam sehari bukan hal yang mustahil buat TINS, saya mau ikutan
ah ... di mana level entry nya yah



  On 2/26/07, Jacobus Arinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Salam Investasi,

Menarik mengikuti perkembangan spekulasi pada saham TINS. Berikut
lampiran sekedar pertimbangan Teknikal yang saya buat dengan metode TD
Setup, TD Countdown dan TD Sequential yang saya pelajari dari Bloomberg.

Kalo menurut Analisa Teknikal TDSetup dan TD Countdown dari Bloomberg,
TINS masih berpeluang naik lagi sampai index yang berwarna hijau mencapai
13. Jumat lalu TINS sempat terkoreksi sampai 10600. Senin ini terkoreksi
sampai 9650.

Kalo besok TINS bisa terapresiasi di atas 11300, TINS akan lanjut
dengan target2 atas. Tetapi kalo besok TINS terkoreksi lagi di bawah 1,
sebaiknya hari rabu 28 Februari 2007, apabila ada kenaikan sesaat, kawan2
rehat dulu pegang TINS dan TakeProfit dulu mumpung masih bisa. 

Salam
Arinto Admojo




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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Sedia payung dan jaket sebelum hujan!

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Frederick Schubert
it's just a commentdont bother
  i do really espect any commentif i say nice it means, it does, nice
  it's a free room...rite..? everyone can make a comment
  cheers 

James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  He control lots of portfolio so desperately displeased if lots of 
trader shorting the stock and could cause temporary profit recording ... heheheh

  On 2/26/07, hilman anugraha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   
Observing your few last postings on this discussion group, i hardly noticed any 
use of your comments. They are either discrediting or only making fun of people 
with genuine idea or thought.  Sometimes even concern or fear. And most of the 
time you act like you control the price of things, like Mr Richie RIch. 
   
  Sorry, oneliner.
   
   
  
Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hahahaha nice.nice
  let's see whether the market tomorrow (Tuesday rite..?) will be just upsided 
down from what you are expecting.
  cheers

Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jaketnya om.. Payung om.. dari pada basah kuyup kena guyur om.. BMG 
atau Badan Meramal Guyuran dari Republik Mimpi mengindikasikan bahwa Yakarta 
besok akan diguyur hujan lebat. Untuk yang mau jalan besok hari diminta membawa 
perlengkapan tambahan seperti jaket dan payung atau uang ekstra untuk ojek 
payung jika harus bepergian atau kalau tidak mempunyai rencana mendesak 
disarankan untuk tunggu di rumah sampai guyuran hujan reda. Siap-siap tunggu 
panggilan tante Marginong untuk yang sudah pake servisnya.. CMIIW.. 
   
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Sedia payung dan jaket sebelum hujan!

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Frederick Schubert
it's just a commentdont bother
  i do really espect any commentif i say nice it means, it does, nice
  it's a free room...rite..? everyone can make a comment
  it could be right that the main index today (Tuesday) may be going 
downbut, any fall could provide room for collection...let's see whether 
Wednesday could worsen or be even better...
  cheers 

James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  He control lots of portfolio so desperately displeased if lots of 
trader shorting the stock and could cause temporary profit recording ... heheheh

  On 2/26/07, hilman anugraha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   
Observing your few last postings on this discussion group, i hardly noticed any 
use of your comments. They are either discrediting or only making fun of people 
with genuine idea or thought.  Sometimes even concern or fear. And most of the 
time you act like you control the price of things, like Mr Richie RIch. 
   
  Sorry, oneliner.
   
   
  
Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hahahaha nice.nice
  let's see whether the market tomorrow (Tuesday rite..?) will be just upsided 
down from what you are expecting.
  cheers

Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jaketnya om.. Payung om.. dari pada basah kuyup kena guyur om.. BMG 
atau Badan Meramal Guyuran dari Republik Mimpi mengindikasikan bahwa Yakarta 
besok akan diguyur hujan lebat. Untuk yang mau jalan besok hari diminta membawa 
perlengkapan tambahan seperti jaket dan payung atau uang ekstra untuk ojek 
payung jika harus bepergian atau kalau tidak mempunyai rencana mendesak 
disarankan untuk tunggu di rumah sampai guyuran hujan reda. Siap-siap tunggu 
panggilan tante Marginong untuk yang sudah pake servisnya.. CMIIW.. 
   
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Sedia payung dan jaket sebelum hujan!

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik James Arifin

Bung FS,

Yang perlu anda ingat tidak semua pemain memiliki kapital besar untuk bisa
masuk setiap saat, oleh karenanya penting bagi trader untuk keluar di dekat
top sehingga punya modal untuk masuk lagi ketika terjadi koreksi. Kalau
didiemin terus kapan untungnya dan nggak punya duit lagi buat BOW. Saya
yakin akan terjadi rebound tapi tanpa modal untuk buy di bawah, sama saja
bohong. Beda dengan pemain besar yang duitnya banyak seri sehingga walaupun
sudah buy masih punya capital untuk buy lagi, atau malah mereka sebenarnya
sudah SOS dan siap2 BOW. Trader khan coba ikutan gelombang naik turun saja
pak.

Mungkin ini bisa menjadi pertimbangan anda ketika komentar karena trader
sangat concern dengan naik turunnya harga karena keterbatasan modal.

On 2/27/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   it's just a commentdont bother
i do really espect any commentif i say nice it means, it does,
nice
it's a free room...rite..? everyone can make a comment
it could be right that the main index today (Tuesday) may be going
downbut, any fall could provide room for collection...let's see whether
Wednesday could worsen or be even better...
cheers

*James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

 He control lots of portfolio so desperately displeased if lots of trader
shorting the stock and could cause temporary profit recording ... heheheh

On 2/26/07, hilman anugraha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Observing your few last postings on this discussion group, i hardly
 noticed any use of your comments. They are either discrediting or only
 making fun of people with genuine idea or thought.  Sometimes even concern
 or fear. And most of the time you act like you control the price of things,
 like Mr Richie RIch.

 Sorry, oneliner.



 *Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

  hahahaha nice.nice
 let's see whether the market tomorrow (Tuesday rite..?) will be just
 upsided down from what you are expecting.
 cheers

 *Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

  Jaketnya om.. Payung om.. dari pada basah kuyup kena guyur om.. BMG
 atau Badan Meramal Guyuran dari Republik Mimpi mengindikasikan bahwa Yakarta
 besok akan diguyur hujan lebat. Untuk yang mau jalan besok hari diminta
 membawa perlengkapan tambahan seperti jaket dan payung atau uang ekstra
 untuk ojek payung jika harus bepergian atau kalau tidak mempunyai rencana
 mendesak disarankan untuk tunggu di rumah sampai guyuran hujan reda.
 Siap-siap tunggu panggilan tante Marginong untuk yang sudah pake servisnya..
 CMIIW..

 Tukang Ojek Payung




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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Sedia payung dan jaket sebelum hujan!

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Bettina Tan

Nice obs, I expect people still can cheong la if collect it at 1750 or 1710,
many FS will be issued this coming weeks. But I wonder whether there is stil
enough power to go through 1830? Expect fresh funds from prince of arabian,
Casper the ghost or other big funds? What sector will be benefited? and who
are the trendmaker? What about inflation? BI rate? Export growth? DJ?
Regional? So many questions should be answer right now, then after that I
could only make decision.

On 2/27/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   it's just a commentdont bother
i do really espect any commentif i say nice it means, it does,
nice
it's a free room...rite..? everyone can make a comment
it could be right that the main index today (Tuesday) may be going
downbut, any fall could provide room for collection...let's see whether
Wednesday could worsen or be even better...
cheers

*James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

 He control lots of portfolio so desperately displeased if lots of trader
shorting the stock and could cause temporary profit recording ... heheheh

On 2/26/07, hilman anugraha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Observing your few last postings on this discussion group, i hardly
 noticed any use of your comments. They are either discrediting or only
 making fun of people with genuine idea or thought.  Sometimes even concern
 or fear. And most of the time you act like you control the price of things,
 like Mr Richie RIch.

 Sorry, oneliner.



 *Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

  hahahaha nice.nice
 let's see whether the market tomorrow (Tuesday rite..?) will be just
 upsided down from what you are expecting.
 cheers

 *Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

  Jaketnya om.. Payung om.. dari pada basah kuyup kena guyur om.. BMG
 atau Badan Meramal Guyuran dari Republik Mimpi mengindikasikan bahwa Yakarta
 besok akan diguyur hujan lebat. Untuk yang mau jalan besok hari diminta
 membawa perlengkapan tambahan seperti jaket dan payung atau uang ekstra
 untuk ojek payung jika harus bepergian atau kalau tidak mempunyai rencana
 mendesak disarankan untuk tunggu di rumah sampai guyuran hujan reda.
 Siap-siap tunggu panggilan tante Marginong untuk yang sudah pake servisnya..
 CMIIW..

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Sedia payung dan jaket sebelum hujan!

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Frederick Schubert
thanks pak arifin

James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Bung FS,
   
  Yang perlu anda ingat tidak semua pemain memiliki kapital besar untuk bisa 
masuk setiap saat, oleh karenanya penting bagi trader untuk keluar di dekat top 
sehingga punya modal untuk masuk lagi ketika terjadi koreksi. Kalau didiemin 
terus kapan untungnya dan nggak punya duit lagi buat BOW. Saya yakin akan 
terjadi rebound tapi tanpa modal untuk buy di bawah, sama saja bohong. Beda 
dengan pemain besar yang duitnya banyak seri sehingga walaupun sudah buy masih 
punya capital untuk buy lagi, atau malah mereka sebenarnya sudah SOS dan siap2 
BOW. Trader khan coba ikutan gelombang naik turun saja pak. 
   
  Mungkin ini bisa menjadi pertimbangan anda ketika komentar karena trader 
sangat concern dengan naik turunnya harga karena keterbatasan modal.
 
  On 2/27/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   it's 
just a commentdont bother
  i do really espect any commentif i say nice it means, it does, nice
  it's a free room...rite..? everyone can make a comment
  it could be right that the main index today (Tuesday) may be going 
downbut, any fall could provide room for collection...let's see whether 
Wednesday could worsen or be even better...
  cheers 

James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  He control lots of portfolio so desperately displeased if lots of trader 
shorting the stock and could cause temporary profit recording ... heheheh

  On 2/26/07, hilman anugraha [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:   
Observing your few last postings on this discussion group, i hardly noticed any 
use of your comments. They are either discrediting or only making fun of people 
with genuine idea or thought.  Sometimes even concern or fear. And most of the 
time you act like you control the price of things, like Mr Richie RIch. 
   
  Sorry, oneliner.
   
   
  
Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hahahaha nice.nice
  let's see whether the market tomorrow (Tuesday rite..?) will be just upsided 
down from what you are expecting.
  cheers

Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jaketnya om.. Payung om.. dari pada basah kuyup kena guyur om.. BMG 
atau Badan Meramal Guyuran dari Republik Mimpi mengindikasikan bahwa Yakarta 
besok akan diguyur hujan lebat. Untuk yang mau jalan besok hari diminta membawa 
perlengkapan tambahan seperti jaket dan payung atau uang ekstra untuk ojek 
payung jika harus bepergian atau kalau tidak mempunyai rencana mendesak 
disarankan untuk tunggu di rumah sampai guyuran hujan reda. Siap-siap tunggu 
panggilan tante Marginong untuk yang sudah pake servisnya.. CMIIW.. 
   
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB...TRUB..!!!.has broken its high

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik budi suryono
 main diatas ceceng kalau gak ada aral melintang,rgds

Masrivana Yusran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Salute P' 
Busur..anyway...TRUB masuk di 780/790 msh ok ga ? target amp brp ?  mksi bgt 
Pak :=D
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  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB...TRUB..!!!.has broken its high
  

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Sedia payung dan jaket sebelum hujan!

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Frederick Schubert
 
  ughbit reluctant to express opinion here  as I am just nobody... people 
in this room are all smart and good analysts
   
  I do believe that ON-MONTH inflation in February could go up as much as 1.6% 
vs 1.04% in January, while ON-YEAR could be at 6.7% in February vs 6.26% in 
January. This may force the central bank to pause the interest rate cycle at 
9.25%. BUT, if the central bank officials smartly observe that the Fed may cut 
interest rate as late as June, they have to prepare to narrow the gap by 
cutting interest rate to 9% in March...
   
  Anyway, the inflation rate, i think, would be factored in...and may be you 
are correct that 1750 (of index) is a good level for buying. In a worse 
scenario, the main index may go down as low as 1730, IF INFLATION IN FEBRUARY 
IS MORE THAN 2%.
   
  Anyway, still, a fund flow is another strategic investment information...EPFR 
estimates that if the Fed cuts rate, the first have to meet for the spill over 
of the U.S. fund is the emerging markets
   
  A bit too technical, but it's just a share...
   
  top picks remain mining, telecommunication (BTEL may be shooting star), and 
plantation sectors...
   
  dicslaimer is heavily on...
   
   
   
   
  

Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Nice obs, I expect people still can cheong la if collect it at 1750 
or 1710, many FS will be issued this coming weeks. But I wonder whether there 
is stil enough power to go through 1830? Expect fresh funds from prince of 
arabian, Casper the ghost or other big funds? What sector will be benefited? 
and who are the trendmaker? What about inflation? BI rate? Export growth? DJ? 
Regional? So many questions should be answer right now, then after that I could 
only make decision. 

  On 2/27/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   it's 
just a commentdont bother
  i do really espect any commentif i say nice it means, it does, nice
  it's a free room...rite..? everyone can make a comment
  it could be right that the main index today (Tuesday) may be going 
downbut, any fall could provide room for collection...let's see whether 
Wednesday could worsen or be even better...
  cheers 

James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  He control lots of portfolio so desperately displeased if lots of trader 
shorting the stock and could cause temporary profit recording ... heheheh

  On 2/26/07, hilman anugraha [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:   
Observing your few last postings on this discussion group, i hardly noticed any 
use of your comments. They are either discrediting or only making fun of people 
with genuine idea or thought.  Sometimes even concern or fear. And most of the 
time you act like you control the price of things, like Mr Richie RIch. 
   
  Sorry, oneliner.
   
   
  
Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hahahaha nice.nice
  let's see whether the market tomorrow (Tuesday rite..?) will be just upsided 
down from what you are expecting.
  cheers

Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jaketnya om.. Payung om.. dari pada basah kuyup kena guyur om.. BMG 
atau Badan Meramal Guyuran dari Republik Mimpi mengindikasikan bahwa Yakarta 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] APBN 2008, PTBA

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Bonardo Paruntungan
wahhebat..
masa sih sumatera double track... kan relnya sepi pak.. lah wong sehari paling 
2 KA penumpang arah palembang - lampung.. dan sebaliknya
sedangkan babaranjang paling 1 kali  kertapati - lampung,
belum lagi orang KA sendiri ngak concern bisnis KA sumatera..
artinya secara bisnis rugi sekali pakai double track... paling 10 tahun lagi...

tapi toh kalu kejadian.. yah baiklah...


EKA SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
Kabarnya dana rel double track Trans Sumatera yg melewati /cakup tambang PTBA 
akan diajukan utk APBN 2008 Mudah2an kejadian.
   
  So ada 2 kejadian utk 'masuk' kembali ke PTBA:
   
  1. Trans Sumatera Rail--double track , dananya disetujui DPR utk 2008
  2.  Tetep yg paling besar-tunggu apakah Pemerintah mau bangun 
'INTERKONEKSI LISTRIK' SUMATERA-JAWA.
   
   
  Kalo itu sudah ada news nya beli PTBA.

 
   

 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] switching pgas ke antm, bijak kah ?

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Bonardo Paruntungan
dari segi manajemen pun masih lebih baik ANTM, hingar bingar politik di ANTM 
lebih kecil ketimbang PGAS


EKA SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
ANTM FENI III sudah Monetized, sudah jalan tinggal lihat report Q1, Q2, Q3, 
2007 dst.
  SSWJ PGAS belum tuh? Harga nickel sudah melambung tembus all time high 
40800$/MT, harga gas di peg nggak ikut harga pasar.
   
  Jangka panjang harga PGAS nggak akan nyusul ANTM apalagi nanti sesudah tahun 
2009 (Tayan Project).
  

Eddie Sindunata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Saya setuju.
  PGASnya nggak usah di cut loss, dlm jangka panjang akan naik.
   
  Salam,
  Eddie
- Original Message - 
  From: Andhy Sulistiawan 
  To: saham@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 3:44 AM
  Subject: Re: [saham] switching pgas ke antm, bijak kah ?
  

  DUA-DUANYA BAGUS, TIDAK USAH DISWITCH
  NAMBAH AJA...

gunawan junaidi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Dear Senior,
Saya punya PGAS nyangkut di atas, per jumat PGAS hrg nya lebih tinggi
dari ANTM, apakah bijak untuk switching pgas ke antm hr senin ?

thx
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] warning UNSP, pak BuSur??

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Bonardo Paruntungan
maag pak busur...
artinya pak busur sudah pasang offer di TRUB beberapa hari belakangan

hanya tebakan

budi suryono [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
ya bisa pak,hanya masalah opportunity dan reward ,saaf ini saya lagi 
konsentrasi di trub,unsp bisa saya follow up nanti setelah urusan dgn trub 
selesai.Dlm trading stock tdk ada istilah terlambat atau beli ketinggian 
  salam

dazzledtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Pak BuSur, UNSP sekarang sudah 1200. Is this the perfect time to BUY? 
Thanks.

Warmest regards,
-Darmawan

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] APBN 2008, PTBA

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Mr. T
Hehehehe, buy now when it's still rumors sell on news...

- Original Message 
From: Bonardo Paruntungan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 8:56:54 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] APBN 2008,  PTBA









  



wahhebat. .
masa sih sumatera double track... kan relnya sepi pak.. lah wong sehari paling 
2 KA penumpang arah palembang - lampung.. dan sebaliknya
sedangkan babaranjang paling 1 kali  kertapati - lampung,
belum lagi orang KA sendiri ngak concern bisnis KA sumatera..
artinya secara bisnis rugi sekali pakai double track... paling 10 tahun lagi...

tapi toh kalu kejadian.. yah baiklah...


EKA SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:
 
Kabarnya dana rel double track Trans Sumatera yg melewati /cakup
 tambang PTBA akan diajukan utk APBN 2008 Mudah2an kejadian.
   
  So ada 2 kejadian utk 'masuk' kembali ke PTBA:
   
  1. Trans Sumatera Rail--double track , dananya disetujui DPR utk 2008
  2.  Tetep yg paling besar-tunggu apakah Pemerintah mau bangun 
'INTERKONEKSI LISTRIK' SUMATERA-JAWA.
   
   
  Kalo itu sudah ada news nya beli PTBA.

 
 
   
 


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[obrolan-bandar] suspend CNKO ?

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Hotma Sirait
bapak2/ ibu2 petinggi BEJ yang pantau milis ini suspend CNKO-nya sudah kelamaan 
tuh.any comment from the milis audience menurut peraturannya berapa lama 
sih suatu saham bisa di-suspend dan apa kriteria suatu saham di-suspend (agak2 
grey area nih) ? karena kalau tidak ada batasannya dan kenapanya yang jelas, 
pemain kecil seperti saya ini jadi bingung nih.

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] switching pgas ke antm, bijak kah ?

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Andreas Butar Butar
Sebenarnya klo Pgas di hold aja, sebab SSWJ-nya akan selesai akhir Maret dan 
klo ada masalah yang menghambat bagaimana pun akan dipaksa oleh pemerintah 
karena efeknya akan menyebar ke BUMN yang lain. Saya perkirakan kejadiaannya 
bisa kayak Antm yang waktu itu. 
   
  EKA SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ANTM FENI III sudah Monetized, sudah jalan tinggal lihat report Q1, 
Q2, Q3, 2007 dst.
  SSWJ PGAS belum tuh? Harga nickel sudah melambung tembus all time high 
40800$/MT, harga gas di peg nggak ikut harga pasar.
   
  Jangka panjang harga PGAS nggak akan nyusul ANTM apalagi nanti sesudah tahun 
2009 (Tayan Project).
  

Eddie Sindunata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Saya setuju.
  PGASnya nggak usah di cut loss, dlm jangka panjang akan naik.
   
  Salam,
  Eddie
- Original Message - 
  From: Andhy Sulistiawan 
  To: saham@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 3:44 AM
  Subject: Re: [saham] switching pgas ke antm, bijak kah ?
  

  DUA-DUANYA BAGUS, TIDAK USAH DISWITCH
  NAMBAH AJA...

gunawan junaidi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Dear Senior,
Saya punya PGAS nyangkut di atas, per jumat PGAS hrg nya lebih tinggi
dari ANTM, apakah bijak untuk switching pgas ke antm hr senin ?

thx
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Sedia payung dan jaket sebelum hujan!

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Johand Dimalouw
Forum ini khan ubtuk sharing opinion jadi justru perbedaan opini itu yg menarik 
untuk dipahami. Kalo nggak ngerti tanya KENAPA? Kalau tidak masuk akal EGPin 
aja deh dari pada .. 
JD


- Original Message 
From: Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 8:30:52 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Sedia payung dan jaket sebelum hujan!

thanks pak arifin

James Arifin james.arifin@ gmail.com wrote: 
Bung FS,
 
Yang perlu anda ingat tidak semua pemain memiliki kapital besar untuk bisa 
masuk setiap saat, oleh karenanya penting bagi trader untuk keluar di dekat top 
sehingga punya modal untuk masuk lagi ketika terjadi koreksi. Kalau didiemin 
terus kapan untungnya dan nggak punya duit lagi buat BOW. Saya yakin akan 
terjadi rebound tapi tanpa modal untuk buy di bawah, sama saja bohong. Beda 
dengan pemain besar yang duitnya banyak seri sehingga walaupun sudah buy masih 
punya capital untuk buy lagi, atau malah mereka sebenarnya sudah SOS dan siap2 
BOW. Trader khan coba ikutan gelombang naik turun saja pak. 
 
Mungkin ini bisa menjadi pertimbangan anda ketika komentar karena trader sangat 
concern dengan naik turunnya harga karena keterbatasan modal.
 
On 2/27/07, Frederick Schubert pemainbesar@ yahoo.com wrote: 
it's just a commentdont bother
i do really espect any commentif i say nice it means, it does, nice
it's a free room...rite. .? everyone can make a comment
it could be right that the main index today (Tuesday) may be going downbut, 
any fall could provide room for collection.. .let's see whether Wednesday could 
worsen or be even better...
cheers 

James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
He control lots of portfolio so desperately displeased if lots of trader 
shorting the stock and could cause temporary profit recording ... heheheh


On 2/26/07, hilman anugraha [EMAIL PROTECTED] com  wrote: 
Observing your few last postings on this discussion group, i hardly noticed any 
use of your comments. They are either discrediting or only making fun of people 
with genuine idea or thought.  Sometimes even concern or fear. And most of the 
time you act like you control the price of things, like Mr Richie RIch. 
 
Sorry, oneliner.
 
 

Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hahahaha nice.nice. ...
let's see whether the market tomorrow (Tuesday rite..?) will be just upsided 
down from what you are expecting... ..
cheers

Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jaketnya om.. Payung om.. dari pada basah kuyup kena guyur om.. BMG atau Badan 
Meramal Guyuran dari Republik Mimpi mengindikasikan bahwa Yakarta besok akan 
diguyur hujan lebat. Untuk yang mau jalan besok hari diminta membawa 
perlengkapan tambahan seperti jaket dan payung atau uang ekstra untuk ojek 
payung jika harus bepergian atau kalau tidak mempunyai rencana mendesak 
disarankan untuk tunggu di rumah sampai guyuran hujan reda. Siap-siap tunggu 
panggilan tante Marginong untuk yang sudah pake servisnya.. CMIIW.. 
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] warning UNSP, pak BuSur??

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik budi suryono
absolutely wrong...dlm jual (lepas untung ato rugi) sya jarang pasang offer, 
langsung yours bidnya,rgds

Bonardo Paruntungan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  maag pak busur...
artinya pak busur sudah pasang offer di TRUB beberapa hari belakangan

hanya tebakan

budi suryono [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
  ya bisa pak,hanya masalah opportunity dan reward ,saaf ini saya lagi 
konsentrasi di trub,unsp bisa saya follow up nanti setelah urusan dgn trub 
selesai.Dlm trading stock tdk ada istilah terlambat atau beli ketinggian 
  salam

dazzledtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Pak BuSur, UNSP sekarang sudah 1200. Is this the perfect time to BUY? 
Thanks.

Warmest regards,
-Darmawan

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RE: [obrolan-bandar] suspend CNKO ?

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Abraham Sihombing
Panik benerrr kelihatannya, nehh...
 
Barangnya banyak yang nyangkut yah, Lae?
 
Kalo udah bisa keluar dengan selamat...jangan coba2 masuk lagi yah, Lae?
 
Buahayaaa...buangee...tuhh...kalu banyak nyang nyangkut jadi puyeng, 
kan...puyeng kepala...puyeng juga kantong.
 
:-)
 
 

-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hotma 
Sirait
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 9:44 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] suspend CNKO ?



bapak2/ ibu2 petinggi BEJ yang pantau milis ini suspend CNKO-nya sudah kelamaan 
tuh.any comment from the milis audience menurut peraturannya berapa lama 
sih suatu saham bisa di-suspend dan apa kriteria suatu saham di-suspend (agak2 
grey area nih) ? karena kalau tidak ada batasannya dan kenapanya yang jelas, 
pemain kecil seperti saya ini jadi bingung nih.

regards,

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] suspend CNKO ?

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Hotma Sirait
panik sih enggak bang, aku cuma beli sedikit kok waktu close terakhir di 70 
(buat modal nge-short sell besok-nya cuma 90 lot saja) buat fun2 aja. aku sih 
pinginnya keluar-masuk di CNKO sampai turun ke harga 25 (mau test impulsif 
trader nih) bang tapi karena di BEJ tidak ada fasilitas short sell ya terpaksa 
beli dulu-lah baru kalau turun dikit 3-4 point jual, baru beli lagi di -10 
point dari harga beli. begitu trus diulang-ulang sampai harga CNKO-nya turun 
sampai 25 perak baru stop. gitu maksudnya bang. yang saya mainin di CNKO cuma 
5% dari modal jadi loss 100% juga tidak apa-apa. but as i say 'don't follow me 
because i'm lost too'. thanks to benny cokro with (CNKO, BTEK, dan saham apa 
lagi ya punya-nya benny cokro ?). thanks a lot boss benny. only you can make it 
happens.

thanks for your attention,

hotma sirait




- Original Message 
From: Abraham Sihombing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 8:05:07 PM
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] suspend CNKO ?


Panik benerrr kelihatannya, nehh...
 
Barangnya banyak yang nyangkut yah, Lae?
 
Kalo udah bisa keluar dengan selamat...jangan coba2 masuk lagi yah, Lae?
 
Buahayaaa...buangee...tuhh...kalu banyak nyang nyangkut jadi puyeng, 
kan...puyeng kepala...puyeng juga kantong.
 
:-)
 
 
-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hotma 
Sirait
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 9:44 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] suspend CNKO ?


bapak2/ ibu2 petinggi BEJ yang pantau milis ini suspend CNKO-nya sudah kelamaan 
tuh.any comment from the milis audience menurut peraturannya berapa lama 
sih suatu saham bisa di-suspend dan apa kriteria suatu saham di-suspend (agak2 
grey area nih) ? karena kalau tidak ada batasannya dan kenapanya yang jelas, 
pemain kecil seperti saya ini jadi bingung nih.

regards,

hotma sirait

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] suspend CNKO ?

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Mr. T
Hajar pasar nego aja. ada yang bid tuh di 60an

- Original Message 
From: Abraham Sihombing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 11:05:07 AM
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] suspend CNKO ?









  







Panik 
benerrr kelihatannya, nehh...

 

Barangnya banyak yang nyangkut yah, Lae?

 

Kalo 
udah bisa keluar dengan selamat...jangan coba2 masuk lagi yah, 
Lae?

 

Buahayaaa... buangee. ..tuhh... kalu banyak nyang nyangkut jadi puyeng, 
kan...puyeng kepala...puyeng juga kantong.

 

:-)

 

 


  -Original Message-
From: 
  obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com]On 
  Behalf Of Hotma Sirait
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 9:44 
  AM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: 
  [obrolan-bandar] suspend CNKO ?



  
  bapak2/ ibu2 petinggi BEJ yang pantau milis ini suspend CNKO-nya sudah 
  kelamaan tuh.any comment from the milis audience menurut peraturannya 
  berapa lama sih suatu saham bisa di-suspend dan apa kriteria suatu saham 
  di-suspend (agak2 grey area nih) ? karena kalau tidak ada batasannya dan 
  kenapanya yang jelas, pemain kecil seperti saya ini jadi bingung 
  nih.

regards,

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] index

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Ari
11.25
1789 nich moga2 naek teyuss

-Original Message-
From: budi suryono[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 2/27/07 8:43:46 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB...TRUB..!!!.has broken its high

 main diatas ceceng kalau gak ada aral melintang,rgds

Masrivana Yusran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Salute P' 
Busur..anyway...TRUB masuk di 780/790 msh ok ga ? target amp brp ?  mksi bgt 
Pak :=D
- Original Message - 
  From: budi suryono 
  To: milis aati ; Teddy Atmadja ; obrolan bandar ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 
iwan ismail ; alvi janti ; junior ; winy Tijono 
  Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 2:52 PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB...TRUB..!!!.has broken its high
  

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RE: [obrolan-bandar] suspend CNKO ?

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Abraham Sihombing
Kalo mau ikutan sama Boss Benny Tjokro, Lae maenin aja tuhh SUBA dan 
MYRX...berani gak?...tinggal adu kuat aja...siapa yang lebih kuat?...Lae ata 
Bos Benny...selamat bertempur dehh, Lae.
 
GBU 
:-)
 

-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hotma 
Sirait
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 11:28 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] suspend CNKO ?





panik sih enggak bang, aku cuma beli sedikit kok waktu close terakhir di 70 
(buat modal nge-short sell besok-nya cuma 90 lot saja) buat fun2 aja. aku sih 
pinginnya keluar-masuk di CNKO sampai turun ke harga 25 (mau test impulsif 
trader nih) bang tapi karena di BEJ tidak ada fasilitas short sell ya terpaksa 
beli dulu-lah baru kalau turun dikit 3-4 point jual, baru beli lagi di -10 
point dari harga beli. begitu trus diulang-ulang sampai harga CNKO-nya turun 
sampai 25 perak baru stop. gitu maksudnya bang. yang saya mainin di CNKO cuma 
5% dari modal jadi loss 100% juga tidak apa-apa. but as i say 'don't follow me 
because i'm lost too'. thanks to benny cokro with (CNKO, BTEK, dan saham apa 
lagi ya punya-nya benny cokro ?). thanks a lot boss benny. only you can make it 
happens.
 
thanks for your attention,
 
hotma sirait

 

 
- Original Message 
From: Abraham Sihombing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 8:05:07 PM
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] suspend CNKO ?


Panik benerrr kelihatannya, nehh...
 
Barangnya banyak yang nyangkut yah, Lae?
 
Kalo udah bisa keluar dengan selamat...jangan coba2 masuk lagi yah, Lae?
 
Buahayaaa...buangee...tuhh...kalu banyak nyang nyangkut jadi puyeng, 
kan...puyeng kepala...puyeng juga kantong.
 
:-)
 
 

-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hotma 
Sirait
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 9:44 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] suspend CNKO ?



bapak2/ ibu2 petinggi BEJ yang pantau milis ini suspend CNKO-nya sudah kelamaan 
tuh.any comment from the milis audience menurut peraturannya berapa lama 
sih suatu saham bisa di-suspend dan apa kriteria suatu saham di-suspend (agak2 
grey area nih) ? karena kalau tidak ada batasannya dan kenapanya yang jelas, 
pemain kecil seperti saya ini jadi bingung nih.

regards,

hotma sirait

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[obrolan-bandar] warning masa

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik milyanto
Dear friend, ada yang denger kalau masa akan diangkat
ke level 300?? Thanks..


 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] suspend CNKO ?

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Jack Cowok
Begitulah Bursa kita.
  Gak ada hujan gak ada angin tapi disuspend.
   
  Koq setelah bandar jualan habis. Baru di suspend.
  Apakah ada permainan antara bandar dan orang dalam ?
   
  Kenapa di suspend begitu lama?
   
  Alasannya apa ?
   
  

Hotma Sirait [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  bapak2/ ibu2 petinggi BEJ yang pantau milis ini suspend CNKO-nya 
sudah kelamaan tuh.any comment from the milis audience menurut peraturannya 
berapa lama sih suatu saham bisa di-suspend dan apa kriteria suatu saham 
di-suspend (agak2 grey area nih) ? karena kalau tidak ada batasannya dan 
kenapanya yang jelas, pemain kecil seperti saya ini jadi bingung nih.

regards,

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Sedia payung dan jaket sebelum hujan!

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Bettina Tan

Thank you Pak,

That's a very kind of you. I learn a lot from your posting Pak. Come on Pak,
from your posting I expect that you are not nobody, but I also agree with
you that people in this discussion group are all smart and good analyst,
too.


On 2/27/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



ughbit reluctant to express opinion here  as I am just nobody...
people in this room are all smart and good analysts

I do believe that ON-MONTH inflation in February could go up as much as
1.6% vs 1.04% in January, while ON-YEAR could be at 6.7% in February vs
6.26% in January. This may force the central bank to pause the interest
rate cycle at 9.25%. BUT, if the central bank officials smartly observe
that the Fed may cut interest rate as late as June, they have to prepare to
narrow the gap by cutting interest rate to 9% in March...

Anyway, the inflation rate, i think, would be factored in...and may be you
are correct that 1750 (of index) is a good level for buying. In a worse
scenario, the main index may go down as low as 1730, IF INFLATION IN
FEBRUARY IS MORE THAN 2%.

Anyway, still, a fund flow is another strategic investment
information...EPFR estimates that if the Fed cuts rate, the first have to
meet for the spill over of the U.S. fund is the emerging markets

A bit too technical, but it's just a share...

top picks remain mining, telecommunication (BTEL may be shooting star),
and plantation sectors...

dicslaimer is heavily on...






*Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

 Nice obs, I expect people still can cheong la if collect it at 1750 or
1710, many FS will be issued this coming weeks. But I wonder whether there
is stil enough power to go through 1830? Expect fresh funds from prince of
arabian, Casper the ghost or other big funds? What sector will be benefited?
and who are the trendmaker? What about inflation? BI rate? Export growth?
DJ? Regional? So many questions should be answer right now, then after that
I could only make decision.

On 2/27/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

it's just a commentdont bother
 i do really espect any commentif i say nice it means, it does,
 nice
 it's a free room...rite..? everyone can make a comment
 it could be right that the main index today (Tuesday) may be going
 downbut, any fall could provide room for collection...let's see whether
 Wednesday could worsen or be even better...
 cheers

 *James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

  He control lots of portfolio so desperately displeased if lots of
 trader shorting the stock and could cause temporary profit recording ...
 heheheh

 On 2/26/07, hilman anugraha [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
 Observing your few last postings on this discussion group, i hardly
  noticed any use of your comments. They are either discrediting or only
  making fun of people with genuine idea or thought.  Sometimes even concern
  or fear. And most of the time you act like you control the price of things,
  like Mr Richie RIch.
 
  Sorry, oneliner.
 
 
 
  *Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
 
   hahahaha nice.nice
  let's see whether the market tomorrow (Tuesday rite..?) will be just
  upsided down from what you are expecting.
  cheers
 
  *Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
 
   Jaketnya om.. Payung om.. dari pada basah kuyup kena guyur om.. BMG
  atau Badan Meramal Guyuran dari Republik Mimpi mengindikasikan bahwa Yakarta
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] index

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Teddy Halim

Aral melintang jdinya pak?
Udah tinggal 750 on closing sesi 1.



-Original Message-
From: budi suryono[EMAIL PROTECTED] chart_miner%40yahoo.com
Sent: 2/27/07 8:43:46 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB...TRUB..!!!.has broken its high

main diatas ceceng kalau gak ada aral melintang,rgds



Re: [obrolan-bandar] warning masa

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik sonnie
MASA ke 300 ?
..belum dengar, tapi setelah liat2 grafiknya rame juga
ternyata, kalo bisa tembus new hi di 240, bisa aja
ditarik sampe ke 300, tapi kalo sempet turun ke 220
hari ini, selesai, ga usah masuk. 

Btw MultiStrada udah ada iklannya tuh di TV :)

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 Dear friend, ada yang denger kalau masa akan
 diangkat
 ke level 300?? Thanks..
 



 

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Lampo teplok bandar dan Elliot Wave

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Index shanghai DOWN -6 percent hari ini...

Dapatkan level 1770 menahan gerakan kebawah dari Wave E ???.


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Embah [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 11:30
 
 - IHSG -22 di 1786 atau udah turun -34 dari posting tentang
   si BOZZ nyalain SIGNAL lampu TEPLOK untuk membakar
   Trader LALAT MUDA...
 - Pada saat lampu teplok nyala TERANG di +18%, Wave D pada
   Contracting Triangle yang embah prediksikan TERJADI (terminal).
 - Saat ini gelombang harga memasuki Wave E...
 
 Ini adalah gabungan analisa Elliot Wave dan ilmu Bandarmologi,
 si BOZZ sebagai SOURCE OF the PRICE WAVE dan Elliot Wave
 Analysis sebagai GUIDING PRINCIPLE dari wave movement.
 
 SO jangan lupa CARE ama god kecil dibursa dan ama GOD GEDE
 yang diatas yang menentukan HUKUM ALAM gerakan gelombang.
 
 The REST: BERSERAH kepada Tuhan seperti pak Sudes bilang...
 
 
 Note:
 - Attached Contracting Triangle pattern.
 
 ...
 
 embah, bandarmologist





[obrolan-bandar] Re: Sedia payung dan jaket sebelum hujan!

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik dfaj21
Ah, Ibu Bettina rupanya kurang minggir dikit. Kuala lumpur turun 3%,
Singapore merah 2%, Korea agak merah 1%. Cuma indonesia doang rupanya
masih bisa pasang kuda-kuda karena ada warning dari Ibu.

Omong-omong kenapa sih regional merah? Flu burung atau Banjir jakarta
ditularin ke mereka?

Kalo kita-kita yang nonton rada rame maklum aja lah Ibu Bettina dan
Bang Fred. Maklum penggemar bola dan rada hooligan semua, kita cuma
bisa jadi suporter saja  maklum kelas teri  takut jadi
pelanduk mati di tengah gajah bertarung.




--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Thank you Pak,
 
 That's a very kind of you. I learn a lot from your posting Pak. Come
on Pak,
 from your posting I expect that you are not nobody, but I also agree
with
 you that people in this discussion group are all smart and good analyst,
 too.
 
 



[obrolan-bandar] Re: Sedia payung dan jaket sebelum hujan!

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, dfaj21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Omong-omong kenapa sih regional merah? Flu burung atau Banjir jakarta
 ditularin ke mereka?

FLUE SHANGHAI 






Re: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB...TRUB..!!!.has broken its high

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Sumardi Tjin

tapi skr lagi turun ya pak di 740-750.
apakah sudah ok untuk masuk ?
thks P'Busur


On 2/27/07, budi suryono [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   main diatas ceceng kalau gak ada aral melintang,rgds

*Masrivana Yusran [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

 Salute P' Busur..anyway...TRUB masuk di 780/790 msh ok ga ? target amp
brp ?  mksi bgt Pak :=D

- Original Message -
*From:* budi suryono [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* milis aati [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Teddy Atmadja[EMAIL PROTECTED]; obrolan
bandar obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; iwan
ismail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; alvi janti[EMAIL PROTECTED];
junior [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; winy Tijono [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Monday, February 26, 2007 2:52 PM
*Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] TRUB...TRUB..!!!.has broken its high


 TRUB beleh dikata konsisten rally setelah break diatas highestnya, now
break its all time high,buy TRUB now!!!
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Sedia payung dan jaket sebelum hujan!

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Bettina Tan

Mudah2an sempat berteduh ya pak pagi tadi supaya tidak kena hujan..

On 2/27/07, dfaj21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Ah, Ibu Bettina rupanya kurang minggir dikit. Kuala lumpur turun 3%,
Singapore merah 2%, Korea agak merah 1%. Cuma indonesia doang rupanya
masih bisa pasang kuda-kuda karena ada warning dari Ibu.

Omong-omong kenapa sih regional merah? Flu burung atau Banjir jakarta
ditularin ke mereka?

Kalo kita-kita yang nonton rada rame maklum aja lah Ibu Bettina dan
Bang Fred. Maklum penggemar bola dan rada hooligan semua, kita cuma
bisa jadi suporter saja maklum kelas teri takut jadi
pelanduk mati di tengah gajah bertarung.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Thank you Pak,

 That's a very kind of you. I learn a lot from your posting Pak. Come
on Pak,
 from your posting I expect that you are not nobody, but I also agree
with
 you that people in this discussion group are all smart and good analyst,
 too.







Re: [obrolan-bandar] Sedia payung dan jaket sebelum hujan!

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik herman ardiyanto
It's already acknowledged that this room is not free from
boss/bandar's sight, which could be more than one and less likely
have common position, and it's all right if no big fish want to show
their card, unless they are sure it's a trump.

But showing emotion is just another telltale, isn't it? Even though
for a big player such as you it's not for me to exploit.

Though you can't reveal much in this homo homini lupus game, sometimes
ob-brigade can offer help to reach your target sooner. Just like
newspaper's ad, but free of charge.

On 2/27/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ughbit reluctant to express opinion here...


[obrolan-bandar] Re: Sedia payung dan jaket sebelum hujan!

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik dfaj21
Mbah dan Ibu Bettina, tolong diberi pencerahan dong  Ini flue
bikin orang bersin-bersin doang, meriang, lemes dan panas badan, batuk
batuk, mencret, muntah darah atau bagaimana sih? Maksudnya di
Shanghainya sana  kita kan baru denger nih, jadi kalo perlu bisa
beli masker sekalian ngerem aja dirumah ngecat dinding tembok yang
digenangi banjir supaya bagus. Jadi gak usah ketularan kitanya








 Mudah2an sempat berteduh ya pak pagi tadi supaya tidak kena hujan..
 
 On 2/27/07, dfaj21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Ah, Ibu Bettina rupanya kurang minggir dikit. Kuala lumpur turun 3%,
  Singapore merah 2%, Korea agak merah 1%. Cuma indonesia doang rupanya
  masih bisa pasang kuda-kuda karena ada warning dari Ibu.
 
  Omong-omong kenapa sih regional merah? Flu burung atau Banjir jakarta
  ditularin ke mereka?
 
  Kalo kita-kita yang nonton rada rame maklum aja lah Ibu Bettina dan
  Bang Fred. Maklum penggemar bola dan rada hooligan semua, kita cuma
  bisa jadi suporter saja maklum kelas teri takut jadi
  pelanduk mati di tengah gajah bertarung.
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
  Bettina Tan bettina.tan@
  wrote:
  
   Thank you Pak,
  
   That's a very kind of you. I learn a lot from your posting Pak. Come
  on Pak,
   from your posting I expect that you are not nobody, but I also agree
  with
   you that people in this discussion group are all smart and good
analyst,
   too.
  
  
 
  
 





Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Lampo teplok bandar dan Elliot Wave

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik gitto kurniasanto
HAJAR TERUSS BOZZ !! waaah sanghai penjudi semua kale mbah PLUSS di CNBC 
kata greenspan AMRIK resesi akir taonwaaah ini mah prediksi SUHU IAN bulan 
NOVEMBERcihuuuy om suhu... tapi ELMU DOBEL PENTUNG ORA ONO YET YAK!!

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
14:05

IHSG -16 di 1767 

Flue Shanghai memuluskan gerakan Wave E...

Apakah support trendline 1770 bisa bertahan atau JEBOL ?


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Index shanghai DOWN -6 percent hari ini...
 
 Dapatkan level 1770 menahan gerakan kebawah dari Wave E ???.
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Embah jsx-consultant@ 
 wrote:
 
  11:30
  
  - IHSG -22 di 1786 atau udah turun -34 dari posting tentang
si BOZZ nyalain SIGNAL lampu TEPLOK untuk membakar
Trader LALAT MUDA...
  - Pada saat lampu teplok nyala TERANG di +18%, Wave D pada
Contracting Triangle yang embah prediksikan TERJADI (terminal).
  - Saat ini gelombang harga memasuki Wave E...
  
  Ini adalah gabungan analisa Elliot Wave dan ilmu Bandarmologi,
  si BOZZ sebagai SOURCE OF the PRICE WAVE dan Elliot Wave
  Analysis sebagai GUIDING PRINCIPLE dari wave movement.
  
  SO jangan lupa CARE ama god kecil dibursa dan ama GOD GEDE
  yang diatas yang menentukan HUKUM ALAM gerakan gelombang.
  
  The REST: BERSERAH kepada Tuhan seperti pak Sudes bilang...
  
  
  Note:
  - Attached Contracting Triangle pattern.
  
  ...
  
  embah, bandarmologist
 








Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Sedia payung dan jaket sebelum hujan!

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik herman ardiyanto
Bakal banjir nggak? Kalau hujan biasa bakal nadahin tempayan, tapi
kalo banjir mah ngungsi yuk coy.


Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Lampo teplok bandar dan Elliot Wave

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Odink
nanggung mbah.. sekalian 1761.02 sekalian tutup gap, persis di level 61.8%

On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:45:03 +0700, jsx_consultant  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Index shanghai DOWN -6 percent hari ini...

 Dapatkan level 1770 menahan gerakan kebawah dari Wave E ???.



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Sedia payung dan jaket sebelum hujan!

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Josia
huehue...waduh, pada berak darah semua nih...
TINS jadi ikut2an berak darah

wah dukun sakti kalo udah bernubuat, jadi deh para trader kelenger



  - Original Message - 
  From: jsx_consultant 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 1:59 PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Sedia payung dan jaket sebelum hujan!


  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, dfaj21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

   Omong-omong kenapa sih regional merah? Flu burung atau Banjir jakarta
   ditularin ke mereka?

  FLUE SHANGHAI 



   


[obrolan-bandar] Historical Data

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik Edward
Halo,

Saya coba cari historical data stock di JSX kok cuma ada prev, close and
volume aja ya ? Yang nama filenya SQ apa saya yang salah ngambil ya ?
Harusnya ngambilnya di alamat apa ya?

Ada ga ya data komplit historical PER dll buat stock di JSX ?

Thanks



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Data Metastock

2007-02-26 Terurut Topik sains kompleksitas

DH

Bapak / Ibu Naj L
cara nya download di

http://www.hok1-investama.com/index.php?option=com_docmantask=cat_viewgid=20Itemid=33

lalu convert file excel ke metastock

cara lengkapnya di
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/hok1-investama/files/

terima kasih

Alex

On 2/16/07, Naj L44 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  mohon diberi panduan cara melakukan konvesi data dimaksud dalam
Metastock-nya...

atas bantuannya trimakasih

- Original Message 
From: sains kompleksitas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: saham@yahoogroups.com; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 8:35:58 AM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Data Metastock

 Dear All

ada data metastock free, sy coba bisa langsung convert ke metastock

ini alamatnya
http://www.hok1- investama. com/index. php?option=
com_docmantask=cat_viewgid=20Itemid=33
http://www.hok1-investama.com/index.php?option=com_docmantask=cat_viewgid=20Itemid=33

moga bermanfaat


thx

Alex H



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