Re: [ob] BNBR di atas 100++ ... BUY !
kemaren EL beli 300 rb lot.berarti EL nggak maen2.disamping dia dah mempertaruhkan kredibilitas dan reputasinya, dia juga dah mempertaruhkan uangnya sebanyak 9 M (anggap dia beli diharga 60 perak). From: frombuitenz...@yahoo.com frombuitenz...@yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 1:44:21 PM Subject: [ob] BNBR di atas 100++ ... BUY ! Kalo kinerja BNBR serius dan bukan habitat GOCAP dan bertahan serta naik bertahap 100 up .. Buy ! Kalo sekarang posisinya msh meragukan dan brekele ;) Rgrds Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] Kapankah ada lagi PELUANG REBOUND..??
Setuju pak. klo semua barang dah kemahalan,misi Roadshow Miss EL bisa gagal total dong. From: Cenayank Saham cenayank_sa...@yahoo.com To: Obrolan Bandar obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; Saham sa...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 12:10:49 PM Subject: [ob] Kapankah ada lagi PELUANG REBOUND..?? Sabar.. IHSG dan beberapa saham biarkan turun dulu...kalau bisa menutup Support2 Gap ataupun mencapai Strong Support atau Next Support.. IHSG dan beberapa Saham sedang menuju Oversold Area..biarkan agak-agak melantai sebentar di Oversold Area, untuk kemudian Rebound lagi...gimana. .se7 tidak..?? Siapkan modal lagi yang banyak untuk masuk bursa.. hmm..Minggu depan kali yee.. Tunggu radar alap-alap berikutnya.. Salam, JH http://www.mylri. com Kenapa BBM mesti naik? Apakah tidak ada solusi selain itu? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers!
Re: [ob] BNBR di atas 100++ ... BUY !
TP EL utk BNBR cuman 400 perak.sham gocap yg TPnya 5000 itu msh misteri.kita disuruh menggunakan indra peraba utk menemukan shm tsb. thx AR From: Tommy Jayamudita jayamud...@gmail.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 2:16:19 PM Subject: Re: [ob] BNBR di atas 100++ ... BUY ! Puncak BNBR di 750 pada Feb 2008, saat itu BUMI 8.000-an, kalau BNBR benar bisa mencapai 5.000, apakah BUMI akan berharga di atas 50.000?? - Original Message - From: frombuitenzorg@ yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [ob] BNBR di atas 100++ ... BUY ! Biar aja El buy untuk invest long term, tapi target TP 5000 akan sulit banget dikejar ' kalo' kinerjanya msh begitu .. Rgrds Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss... ! From: Auto Reject Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 00:01:12 -0700 (PDT) To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [ob] BNBR di atas 100++ ... BUY ! kemaren EL beli 300 rb lot.berarti EL nggak maen2.disamping dia dah mempertaruhkan kredibilitas dan reputasinya, dia juga dah mempertaruhkan uangnya sebanyak 9 M (anggap dia beli diharga 60 perak). From: frombuitenzorg@ yahoo.com frombuitenzorg@ yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 1:44:21 PM Subject: [ob] BNBR di atas 100++ ... BUY ! Kalo kinerja BNBR serius dan bukan habitat GOCAP dan bertahan serta naik bertahap 100 up .. Buy ! Kalo sekarang posisinya msh meragukan dan brekele ;) Rgrds Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss... ! - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] Tolong dibaca sekali lagi ajakan Elaine tgl 18 april 2009 jam 14:41
lha ini koq ada forum politik??? apa gak salah kamar??? From: bejwatch peter.law...@yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 9:26:32 AM Subject: Re: [ob] Tolong dibaca sekali lagi ajakan Elaine tgl 18 april 2009 jam 14:41 Iklan Teh Sosro : Apapun Makanannya Minumannya Teh Sosro Iklan RI : Siapapun Wapresnya SBY .. (isi sendiri yaaa) Perolehan PD yang dasyat adalah sumbangsih dari elite partai yang melakukan manuver politik Golden Triangle (Asal Bukan SBY), rakyat merespon dengan pilihannya.. . --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, vaulst...@.. . wrote: This is already an issue before right?! Lupa yah.. Dulu kan dari party Golkar sudah bilang mereka partai besar kok cuman mau jadi wakil.. Ini before the election. Makanya serba salah juga waktu itu JK. Tapi skarang orang bahasnya PD yang sombong ini itu.. Lupa juga yah sebelum pemilu kemaren issue diatas sudah keluar. Hehe cuman ingetin aja sih.. Sekarang PD pasti pusing kehilangan Golkar.. Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: efendi elias eliasefendi@ ... Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 09:49:37 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [ob] Tolong dibaca sekali lagi ajakan Elaine tgl 18 april 2009 jam 14:41 Hei...Elaine tak lihat di tv hari ini Golkar pecah kongsi dengan Demokrat Jusuf Kalla is the only President candidate from Golkar.Not Vice President candidate . That's mean Golkar would not joint again with Demokrat...U really didn't know ?? --- On Thu, 4/23/09, Elaine Sui elainesui83@ ... wrote: From: Elaine Sui elainesui83@ ... Subject: Re: [ob] Tolong dibaca sekali lagi ajakan Elaine tgl 18 april 2009 jam 14:41 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 11:40 PM What statement?? On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:32 PM, efendi elias eliasefendi@ yahoo.com wrote: Ok..untill now,i'm still believe you.I'm just buy 105 lot at 19 april at 79.And i'll keep it till desember 09.I've promised to give 5 lot to OB.Don't make me disapoint... .i'll keep your promiseOne Question...What do u think about Indonesian politic condition after Golkar statement today Thanks... --- On Thu, 4/23/09, Elaine Sui elainesui83@ gmail.com wrote: From: Elaine Sui elainesui83@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [ob] Tolong dibaca sekali lagi ajakan Elaine tgl 18 april 2009 jam 14:41 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 11:20 PM Make it 7x at tomorrow's price. Remember, donate wisely. Elaine On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:46 PM, efendi elias eliasefendi@ yahoo.com wrote: Baca yang jelasProgram donatur Bakrie's Rp.1.000.000. 000. Saya membutuhkan 1000 partisipan.Tolong beli Rp.200.000(5 lot)(artinya 1lot Rp 40.000,1 lbr Rp 40.000/500=Rp 80) saham BNBR.Simpan sampai akhir tahun ini. Desember 2009,harap dijual dan di sumbangkan ke OB.. Jadi kesimpulannya. ...200.000 x 1000 = 200.000.000 akan menjadi 1.000.000.000 akhir tahun.1.000. 000.000/200. 000.000 = 5 x.Jadi hanya 5 x lipat Bakrie's IDR1,000,000, 000 donation program Message #147543  Prev Next I NEED 1000 PARTICIPANTS. PLEASE BUY IDR 200,000 (5 LOT) WORTH OF BAKRIE BROTHERS (BNBR) KEEP IT UNTIL END OF THIS YEAR. DEC 2009, PLEASE SELL IT AND DONATE TO OB. IT ONLY COSTS YOU FRACTION OF YOUR FUND. IF YOU REALLY LOVE EMBAH AND OB COMMUNITY, PLEASE JOIN ME. ONLY IDR 200,000. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR. Please write your name here: 1. ... 2. ... 3.. ... Abdulrahim, Rei, Fifi, Ydizz, jkunci, JT, Tasrul, Dean, Oentoeng, edwinkdr, halim, aimee, ruzli, rully, boyz, troyanese, tirta, billy, frendy, retha, nabila, bettina, tbumi, kusumo_k, andref, hendra, hans, and all my friends in OB community... This is for Embah and OB, for his lifetime dedication to capital market. Please tell me you're willing to join. It's time for us to give a 'real' christmas present to our beloved moderator. Thank you. Elaine
Re: [ob] Kapankah ada lagi PELUANG REBOUND..??
whooaalaadah ibu2 tho??? kecele aku yo. nyuwun sewu bu nggih. lha ngomonge koq coro londo singapur terus yo.hehehehe From: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 2:21:42 PM Subject: Re: [ob] Kapankah ada lagi PELUANG REBOUND..?? Hehe..itu ibu lho...Ibu Juliantika Handayani (JH) 2009/4/24 Auto Reject otore...@yahoo. com Setuju pak. klo semua barang dah kemahalan,misi Roadshow Miss EL bisa gagal total dong. From: Cenayank Saham cenayank_saham@ yahoo.com To: Obrolan Bandar obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com; Saham sa...@yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 12:10:49 PM Subject: [ob] Kapankah ada lagi PELUANG REBOUND..?? Sabar.. IHSG dan beberapa saham biarkan turun dulu...kalau bisa menutup Support2 Gap ataupun mencapai Strong Support atau Next Support.. IHSG dan beberapa Saham sedang menuju Oversold Area..biarkan agak-agak melantai sebentar di Oversold Area, untuk kemudian Rebound lagi...gimana. .se7 tidak..?? Siapkan modal lagi yang banyak untuk masuk bursa.. hmm..Minggu depan kali yee.. Tunggu radar alap-alap berikutnya.. Salam, JH http://www.mylri. com Kenapa BBM mesti naik? Apakah tidak ada solusi selain itu? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers!
Re: [ob] BNBR TP 5000 DEC To. EL, How???...
Klo DEWA gmn?? tp blon sempet tidur lama tuh.yg dah lama tidur tuh SAPD BCAC itu juga klo I boleh diubah jadi A. hehehehe From: Multikartu Network multikartu.netw...@gmail.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 3:24:45 PM Subject: Re: [ob] BNBR TP 5000 DEC To. EL, How???... Plis deh... bukan BNBR bapak... ada hurufnya A. BCAP aja klo mau Pada 24 April 2009 11:00, Greg Hadiwinata ghadiwinata@ gmail.com menulis: Sy cek chart TMPI dr tgl 1/6/06 - Rp50 sampai titik tertinggi (bukan harga open or close) tgl 5/6/07 - Rp 3846 CMIIW (data sy dari chart nexus). Kenaikan spektakuler kurang lebih 7500% dalam waktu 1 thn. Tp akan kalah spektakuler kl BNBR bisa naik dari 50 5000 dalam waktu 8 bulan... menurut saya sih quite impossible.. . apalagi setelah ada preseden kasus TMPI. Rgds, Greg --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Sudeswanto samsudesyang@ ... wrote: hehehe, ternyata dah pada lupa... ada tuh saham yang naek dari 65 sampe 4650, dalam waktu kurang lebih satu tahun... :) (btw, i dont like bnbr tho) _ From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of vaulst...@.. . Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 3:27 PM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [ob] BNBR TP 5000 DEC To. EL, How???... Hehe El you don't have to worry.. Even superbooming last year I haven't see any stock rise from 50 to 5000.. Sent from my BlackBerryR powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT _ From: Elaine Sui Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 13:26:09 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [ob] BNBR TP 5000 DEC To. EL, How???... I said 5 lots, 1000 participants, donate to Embah before christmas. But ppl get greedy and leverage it like 1 times. I NEVER SAID it's going to be 5000. omg why theres so many distorted information circling around Elaine 2009/4/23 Gunawan Samin alwin_supriatna@ mailto:alwin_supria...@... yahoo.com skrg bln Apr masih ada 8 bulan lagi saham 50 bisa ke 5000? 1 bulan mesti naik brp yahhh ane tetep buy 5 lot sumbangsi to participate EL buat christmas :) Salam cuan --- On Thu, 4/23/09, poetra poetra...@yahoo. mailto:poetra...@... com wrote: From: poetra poetra...@yahoo. mailto:poetra...@... com Subject: Re: [ob] EL, mau buy or sell BNBR ???... To: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com yahoogroups. com Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 3:55 AM Kemaren gorengnya kematengan, jd gosong deh. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com http://us.mc463. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=obrolan- bandar%40yahoogr oups.c om , Aria Bela Nusa ariabela@ . wrote: Wah,'ndak ada perlawananan2, 'tuh - kayaknya (broker sold broker buyer) yg top sell skrg mah si YU, udah 1 jt lot. but anyway i'm already jump in.. ikut sumbang mbah
Re: [ob] TLKM
numpang nanya pak. klo kita pake W%R utk TLKM, akurasinya brp % pak???.kan OS maupun OB-nya bs lebih dr 1 hr??. dan saham2 apa aja yg cocok ama indikator om William ini?. thx b4 AR. From: indeksbei3...@gmail.com indeksbei3...@gmail.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 4:09:09 PM Subject: Re: [ob] TLKM Bagus dong Pak Saya nunggu Sampai Stockastic dan W%R OS Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT From: EdBa Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:06:38 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] TLKM Prof JT, TLKM kenapa ya? Koq diguyur terus? Regards, EdBa Sent from my Mobile Device Powered by Telkomsel From: swan silo swan_groups@ yahoo.com Sent: Friday, 24 April 2009 6:50 AM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com; sa...@yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] aali, tlkm watch tlkm n aali Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang!
Re: [ob] TLKM
thx pak.jadi ketiganya bisa mengkonfirmasi OS/OB dari W%R yah.wah, hrs belajar banyak neh. tp demi keamanan gpplah. thx AR From: Greg Hadiwinata ghadiwin...@gmail.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 4:28:46 PM Subject: Re: [ob] TLKM Kl digabung dengan analisa candle, volume, support/resistance, dll mungkin OS dan OB bisa lebih berarti pak... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Auto Reject otore...@.. . wrote: numpang nanya pak. klo kita pake W%R utk TLKM, akurasinya brp % pak???.kan OS maupun OB-nya bs lebih dr 1 hr??. dan saham2 apa aja yg cocok ama indikator om William ini?. thx b4 AR.
Re: [ob] To pak JT -- BNBR - PGAS
nubi nanya : 1.segepok itu brp banyak pak?' 2.klo support di 87 ditembus,berikutnya kebrp lagi pak??. thx AR. From: JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:29:51 PM Subject: RE: [ob] To pak JT -- BNBR - PGAS BNBR buat midterm lah.., saya kemarin juga beli segepok.., buat simpen. Chartnya memang ada signal koreksi.., support 87.., semoga mantul disitu. PGAS tinggal tunggu trigger.., watch very closely..., ini barang kalau jalan juga gokil..., wushhh.. hehe JT -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Victor-milis Sent: 22 April 2009 11:38 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] To pak JT -- BNBR - PGAS Kalau BNBR bagaimana pak? Kalau saya lihat PGAS setengah hari, hrsnya volume bisa tembus ya pak nanti sore
Re: [ob] To Mr JT Suhu : BTEL dan DEWA
Celakanya,kita keseringan jadi RAKUS ketika yg lain RAKUS dan ikut keTAKUTan ketika yg lain TAKUT... hehehehe. From: Bambang Kansah bambangkan...@gmail.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 11:27:20 PM Subject: Re: [ob] To Mr JT Suhu : BTEL dan DEWA Tuh kan, udah pada lupa ya apa yg dibilang sama Kakek Buffet: RAKUS di saat yg lain TAKUT, and TAKUT di saat yg lain RAKUS... he.. he.. Messages in this topic (54) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Database | Polls + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + + MARKETPLACE I'm happy I lost my Job. Now I make $12,000/mo online! See how I do it: WealthResource.org. Mom Power: Discover the community of moms doing more for their families, for the world and for each other Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity * 19 New Members * 1 New DatabaseVisit Your Group Yahoo! News Fashion News What's the word on fashion and style? Yahoo! Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice more. Y! Groups blog The place to go to stay informed on Groups news! ..
Re: [ob] Bakrie's IDR1,000,000,000 donation program
besok antri yg rapi yah,jgn desak2an.msh banyak waktu koq!.hehe From: dinda trinita dinda.trin...@gmail.comTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 9:17:27 PMSubject: Re: [ob] Bakrie's IDR1,000,000,000 donation program I'm in too Please put my name on the list Thanks On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Elaine Sui elainesui83@ gmail.com wrote: I NEED 1000 PARTICIPANTS. PLEASE BUY IDR 200,000 (5 LOT) WORTH OF BAKRIE BROTHERS (BNBR)KEEP IT UNTIL END OF THIS YEAR.DEC 2009, PLEASE SELL IT AND DONATE TO OB. IT ONLY COSTS YOU FRACTION OF YOUR FUND.IF YOU REALLY LOVE EMBAH AND OB COMMUNITY,PLEASE JOIN ME.ONLY IDR 200,000. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR.Please write your name here:1. ...2. ...3. ... Abdulrahim, Rei, Fifi, Ydizz, jkunci, JT, Tasrul, Dean, Oentoeng, edwinkdr, halim, aimee, ruzli, rully, boyz, troyanese, tirta, billy, frendy, retha, nabila, bettina, tbumi, kusumo_k, andref, hendra, hans, and all my friends in OB community...This is for Embah and OB, for his lifetime dedication to capital market.Please tell me you're willing to join. It's time for us to give a 'real' christmas present to our beloved moderator. Thank you. Elaine
Re: [ob] Bakrie's IDR1,000,000,000 donation program
saya ikut ndaftar juga. From: pram pramad...@gmail.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 10:17:27 PM Subject: Re: [ob] Bakrie's IDR1,000,000,000 donation program Saya termasuk silent reader OB. But count me in! (mudah2an masih dapat di harga wajar Senin nanti). On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Tasrul Tanar tasru...@yahoo. com wrote: Baru baca email nih,in abis ngasih workshop tadi. Saya ikutan, tolong didaftarin From: Januar jan...@lge.com To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 3:31:45 PM Subject: Re: [ob] Bakrie's IDR1,000,000, 000 donation program Terupdate sampe 15.31 yang udah daftar : 1. Abdulrahmanrahim (abdul.rahman. ra...@gmail. com) 2. indeksbei3000@ gmail.com 3. Kusumo (kusu...@gmail. com) 4. Januar (bajoe...@yahoo. com) 5. [M S] (mimpi.saham@ gmail.com) 6. Kang Jahe (kangj...@yahoo. com) 7. Juru Kunci (jku...@yahoo. com) 8. Rei (highwaystar91@ gmail..com) 9. Pak JT (jsxtra...@yahoo. com) 10. Ydizz (y_d...@mail2web. com) 11. Efendi (eliasefendi@ yahoo.com) 12. Dean Earwicker (dean.earwicker@ gmail.com) 13. David Langelo (david.langelo@ yahoo...com) 14. Ferry Wachjudi (ferry.wachjudi@ gmail.com) 15. d...@ob 16.. hepisa...@gmail. com 17. siangmalamphoto@ yahoo.co. id 18. Jeffry Lesmana (jeffry_lesmana@ yahoo.com) Powered by Telekcel BulukBerry® - Original Message - From: Jeffry Lesmana To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [ob] Bakrie's IDR1,000,000, 000 donation program Ok ok. Walaupun jarang post, I ikutan deh. :) Envoyé avec BlackBerry® d'INDOSAT From: Januar Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:19:53 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [ob] Bakrie's IDR1,000,000, 000 donation program Aku ikutan. Sekalian ta update yg udah daftar neh. I NEED 1000 PARTICIPANTS. PLEASE BUY IDR 200,000 (5 LOT) WORTH OF BAKRIE BROTHERS (BNBR) KEEP IT UNTIL END OF THIS YEAR. DEC 2009, PLEASE SELL IT AND DONATE TO OB. IT ONLY COSTS YOU FRACTION OF YOUR FUND. IF YOU REALLY LOVE EMBAH AND OB COMMUNITY, PLEASE JOIN ME. ONLY IDR 200,000. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR. Please write your name here: 1. abdul.rahman. ra...@gmail. com 2. indeksbei3000@ gmail.com 3. kusu...@gmail. com 4. Januar (bajoe...@yahoo. com) Abdulrahim, Rei, Fifi, Ydizz, jkunci, JT, Tasrul, Dean, Oentoeng, edwinkdr, halim, aimee, ruzli, rully, boyz, troyanese, tirta, billy, frendy, retha, nabila, bettina, tbumi, kusumo_k, andref, hendra, hans, and all my friends in OB community... This is for Embah and OB, for his lifetime dedication to capital market. Please tell me you're willing to join. It's time for us to give a 'real' christmas present to our beloved moderator. Thank you. Elaine
