Re: [obrolan-bandar] BW Buy CPRO
CPRO sudah banyak makan korban waktu harga 700-an --- Angelo Ferdinand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ha ha ha BW salah input. Maunya jualan malah ketik Buy. ha ha ha On 12/2/07, purnama saputra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ada RUPS tuh 18 des 2007 - Original Message From: Angelo Ferdinand [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 3, 2007 2:34:26 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BW Buy CPRO Hore, BW beli CPRO, tumben -- Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51731/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ%0A Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[obrolan-bandar] Tanya harga saham dibawah Rp100,-
Mau nanya dong, Ketentuan dari otoritas bursa untuk saham2 yg hargana dibawah Rp100 akan menjadi Rp100, Tanggal efektif berlakunya kapan (saya hanya tahu tahun 2008)...? Mekanismenya seperti apa, apakah semua saham dibawah Rp100 kalau udah hari H-nya akan reverse stock...? thanks iful Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TLKM-Speedy: TANDA ALAM ? (1572)
saya pake jurus tangan kosong masih ok-ok saja tuh, lagian gak ada 1 jurus yg bener2 tokcer. di AI (Artificial Intelligence) ada yg namanya pattern recognition, ini mempelajari pola. contoh kalau bawa mobil dari Rawamangun ke Blok M tiap hari, kita akan mengenali pola kemacetan. simpul macetnya sekarang ada di jembatan layang menuju megaria, karena emang ada pembangunan jalan busway, kalau jalan busway dah selesai bisa jadi simpul macetnya akan pindah. bahkan saya gak ngerti apa itu elliot wave, fibonacci dll, contoh dari markowitz pun bikin bingung, belum ada contoh yg sederhana dan bisa diterapkan di BEJ, apalagi pake rumus matematik, bikin pusing :) cheers iful --- Pratomo, Bimo BP (GE Indust, ConsInd) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ini dia masalahnya pak Boyz, dagangan saya bukan TINS ANTM INCO yg ngegemesin itu tapi bangsanya PTBA, MEDC yg saya kulakannya 2 bulan lalu (abis kulakan lgs jatoh) plus PGAS di hari2 terkahir 12ribuannya. makanya saya ngebet pengen nimba ilmu disini biar nggak terperosok lagi, selama ini sih jual-beli mah cuma ngandalkan feeling, kira2 dsb hehehe... h.lebaran taon ini nggak pegang duit dah -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of boyz Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:49 AM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TLKM-Speedy: TANDA ALAM ? (1572) lho ? bukannya saham pertambangan lagi pada naik pak? itu TINS, ANTM dan INCO sedang lucu-lucunya, bikin gemez :) kalo PTBA masih blom ya pak? salam, Pratomo, Bimo BP (GE Indust, ConsInd) wrote: Embah betul juga salam kenal dari Jogja utk Embah rekan-rekan millis semoga dgn gabung disini saya bisa dapat ilmu2 saktinya Embah rekan yg lain. maklum aja ya Mbah namanya juga dari daerah, minim ilmu apalagi info alhasil sdh 2 bulan ini dagangan saya nggak laku2. cilakanya dagangan saya yg ada serba tambang semua...aduh. udah tempat tinggalnya digoyang gempa, dagangannya turut digoyang-goyang pula Terima kasih banyak Embah Pak Moderator... Send instant messages to your online friends http://asia.messenger.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[obrolan-bandar] antrian buy/sell di BEJ
Boss-boss... Mau nanya dong, antrian buy/sell saat jam 09.10 dan posting di monitor BEJ jam 09.25 didasarkan pada apa yah...? apakah murni pake FIFO (First In First Out), kecepatan sending process dari masing2 sekuritas, atau ada regulasi lain dari BEJ...? Thanks iful __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] antrian buy/sell di BEJ
--- surya hutagaol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Menurut saya, serahkan saja pada bagian IT untuk
meneliti apakah itu betul2 FIFO. Kalo dipikirin dari
nah itu dia, justru saya tidak hanya sekedar
menyerahkan ke IT tapi ingin tahu mekanismenya. Misal
kenapa software yg digunakan di BEJ untuk trading itu
gak pake VB (Visual Basic), karena VB gak bisa
menghandle concurent user yg banyak, kalau ada 1000
transaksi yg dieksekusi secara bersamaan dalam 1 detik
bisa hang itu server, setahu saya BEJ pake C language.
murni pake FIFO ato ga...ntar dipikirin jg sampe
hari pembayaran di-cek jg ke bank (dananya bener ga
masuk ke bank).
Kalo dipikirin terus...kapan mulai investasinya/
tradingnya?
saya trading sudah 2 tahun, karena itu kalau ada
rekan2 yg tahu mekanisme pengaturan antrian di BEJ
seperti apa bisa di-share. Yang membuat saya
bertanya2, misal kenapa 10 lot yang di sekuritas A kok
masuk antriannya lebih cepat dari 10 lot di sekuritas
B padahal submitnya sama ke BEJ. Apa karena bandwith
di masing2 sekuritas itu beda cepatnya sehingga
diterima di BEJ beda waktunya, atau ada mekanisme lagi
di sekuritas tidak langsung otomatis submit ke BEJ,
atau malah di BEJ ada mekanisme ranking antrian mana
dulu yang didahulukan. Kalau pake FIFO, komputer pasti
bisa membedakan sampai mili second (satuan yang lebih
kecil dari detik)
cheers
iful
Have a blessed day,
SURYA D. HUTAGAOL
[old things are passed away; behold, all things are
become new]
- Original Message -
From: Sjaiful Bahri
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: October 11, 2006 1:03 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] antrian buy/sell di
BEJ
Boss-boss...
Mau nanya dong, antrian buy/sell saat jam 09.10
dan
posting di monitor BEJ jam 09.25 didasarkan pada apa
yah...? apakah murni pake FIFO (First In First
Out),
kecepatan sending process dari masing2 sekuritas,
atau
ada regulasi lain dari BEJ...?
Thanks
iful
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?
Maksimum 5% dari portofolio ada saham bakrie, dan short term saja, lumayan naik-turun dan liquid, dan pengalaman saya aman...:-D cheers iful --- redyherinantoalb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's not funny I konw someone still hold BUMI at avarage 30 rupiah 50.000 lot. I lost BUMI once, but with it's price now I considering to take it as long term investment althoung it will break mu oath not to buy Bakries anymore... :D Redy --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, up_trends [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: haha mr frederick u can be very funny sumtimes maybe Rp 35, or maybe Rp 990? or 1000? hihihi, i leave the answer to you. :) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert pemainbesar@ wrote: not that funnyi stll have some at an average of IDR35so...take an easy... hehe up_trends up_trends@ wrote: funny when some people said this stock is good but actually they still dont invest in it. if u are sure enough bumi is going to 1200, why u still don't have bumi? :) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert pemainbesar@ wrote: nopebut i may be looking at heavily investing some big chunk of my fund and may forecast for BUMI fair value is more than 1,200 rups.. but, what u said reminded me to an event when i told people that Telkom's fair value is at 9,000 rups...at that times Telkom's share price was at 4,400haha peace ah.. up_trends up_trends@ wrote: I'm guessing u have bumi? well good luck :) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert pemainbesar@ wrote: don't have any problem with my investment...my problem now is that i don't understand with what you said... peace up_trends up_trends@ wrote: the problem is are u strong enough to see other stocks rally giving u a whooping 20%+ gain while bumi ... :) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert pemainbesar@ wrote: well... come on...be realistic... and please separate corporate action and assets as of September 30 2006 (next 9-month earnings), BUMI's assets should remain at IDR16.99 trillion, compared with PTBA of ONLY IDR2.68 trillion, or INCO of IDR15.23 trillion or ANTM of IDR6.6 trillion. If BUMI CAN manage its current debts by any kind of refinancing or loan bridging or whatsoeverBUMI mabe as attractive as Inco... The question for BUMI is how they can manage their cash flow...and maintain its loyal foreign buyers So, with or without selling KPC and ARUTMIN, which are the largest coal miner by ASSETS and reserves, BUMI still has potential for long term investment. cheers ariabela@ wrote: Sepertinya, pade kalah 'senior' semua sama yg punyanya, ya - nanti lama2 juga akan terlupakan/terselesaikan dg sendirinya... Aria Asetnya BUMI keliatannya masih menarik dhe.. ie :Arutmin, KPC etc... tapi manajemennya,,yakkhh. - Original Message - From: up_trends To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:54 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI? what goes around comes around. boongin berita di bumi, ketimpa sial lumpur enrg. minum deh tuh lumpur sampe kenyang. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jamal Nasution jamal@ wrote: klo cp nya beli banyak berarti mo kesana tapi klo belinya cuma dikit berarti barang banyak nyangkut itu riset kapan? sesudah pembatalan KPC ya - Original Message - From: Handika Wisnu To: Bandar Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 12:43 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] masih layakkah BUMI? Saya saat ini megang saham BUMI dalam jumlah yg lumayan banyak (menurut saya) karena dulu terpikat dgn janji mo bagi dividen Rp 200/saham. Nah, yg mo saya tanyain...apakah BUMI masih layak dipertahankan ato tidak? Soalnya hasil dari cut loss ini akan saya alihkan untuk invest options di US market yg return-nya rata2 10% per bulan (strategi konservatif). Tapi barusan saya baca review BEJ dari pusat riset Valbury bilang klo BUMI msh pny masa depan yg bagus, keliatan dari banyaknya bank2 luar negeri yg msh mo memberikan pinjaman hingga 2x yg diminta. Katanya ini menunjukkan bahwa BUMI msh dipercaya sama investor luar. Plus target dlm 3
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Poster film horor IHSG tahun ini
Marvin Minsky profesor komputer dari MIT menyebutkan ada positive expertise dan negative expertise. Makanya harus berfikir positif dan juga berfikir negatif. Karena akan selalu terjadi + atau -, cuma berapa kali plus dan berapa kali minus...? jawabannya akan selalu fuzzy. Kecuali bandar akan tahu pasti, lha karena dia yg punya capital gede, yg repot kalau bandar saling perang, akan fuzzy lagi jawabannya... :-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "obrolan-bandar" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis
setuju pak, hati2 kalau cut loss dah jadi budaya, bakalan gulung tikar... he..he..he. cheers iful --- oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terimakasih sarannya pak... yang jelas SEMUA BELON TAHU kan kalao akan ADA KENAIKAN sebesar PENURUNAN HARI ini dan KEMARIN? Tunggu SAATnya... BINGUNG-BINGUNG DAH yang CUT LOSS 2 hari ini. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, yakob ananto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kisah perjalanan index yg naik dan turun secara dramatis, cerita pecahnya rekor indek, cerita pecahnya rekor penurunan poin terbesar sepertinya membuat banyak yg bingung Termasuk yg saya baca dari tulisan2 teman2 disini. Kebingungan yg paling kentara ialah, banyak teman yg mulai menulis dua arah, dan gak jelas. Sebentar ngomong Up krn begini begitu, sebentar ngomong Down krn alasan lain. jadi punya 2 klaim. Klo index naik.. I've told u so. Look at claim A written by me. Klo index turun. I've told u so. Look at claim B written by me. Mabok!!! Klo pada cari pembenaran atas dirinya sendiri. (sorry mbah, tempo hari saat mbah ngajak teman2 short TLKM di 6000an krn antisipasi turun ke 5000an, lalu kemudian mengaku tidak ambil posisi short termasuk gak etis menurutku. SORRY BANGET mohon maaf klo salah.) RELAX MAN!!! Gak ada yg nyalahin atas kesalahan tulisan kamu. Tapi justru sangat memuji klo anda berjiwa besar mengaku... Ya saya salah. Toh yg akhirnya pantas dipuji adalah org yg berjiwa besar. So still keep on writing guys !!! just be responsible enough with ur writings. - Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1cent;/min. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com SPONSORED LINKS Business finance course Business to business finance Small business finance Business finance consultant Business finance magazine Business finance schools YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "obrolan-bandar" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] The Wit and Wisdom of Peter Lynch
short term dan gak pernah melakukan cut loss dan masuk dengan prosentase sedikit demi sedikit juga diversifikasi maksimum 12 saham itu juga alternatif yg menguntungkan... cheers iful --- Cubit Aja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter S. Lynch's Fundamental's of Investing 1.) Know What You Own - Most people don't really know the reasons why they own a stock - you should. Ed's Note: Similar to Ben Graham and Warren Buffet's Businesslike Investing in your Circle of Competence 2.) It is Futile to Predict the Economy, Interest Rates and the Stock Market(So Don't Waste Time Trying) - If You Spend 13 minutes per year trying to predict the economy, you have wasted 10 minutes Focus on the facts now at hand rather than predictions about the future 3.) You Have Plenty of Time - to identify and recognize exceptional companies. If you bought WalMart AFTER it rose 10x in its first 10 years, you got another 60x return over the next 30 years. Bottom line: Don't be in a rush - look at plenty of stocks, but be patient. Note: Buffett's Wait for the Perfect Pitch 4.) Avoid Long Shots - his record was ZERO out of 25 investing in companies with no revenues but a bright future to sell. His advice if you run across a company that falls into this category but still excites you - do nothing and write down the name. Look at it again in 6 to 12 months and see if you still think it is good. If it is one of the good ones and went from 5 to 15 while you waited, per point #3 above, you probably still have plenty of time. Note: Following this rule could keep you out of trouble. Benjamin Graham and Warren Buffett talked about avoiding Speculations and focusing on Investments instead 5.) Good Management is Very Important and Buy Great Businesses - good management is very important - maybe even the most important consideration. It may also be the most difficult item on this list to get right. His advice: look for good companies because a good management in a bad business will probably fail. Buy a business any fool can manage because eventually one will Buffett has also observed that when a good management meets a bad business, it is the reputation of the business that generally prevails. 6.) Be Flexible - lots of unexpected things happen, some good and some bad. Many of his best nvestments happened for the wrong reasons, i.e. his original thesis was off, but the investment still worked out. Sometimes he was absolutely right about the growth but the investment was still lousy and he did not make any money. So be flexible and humble 7.) Knowing When to Sell is Hard - before you make a purchase, you should be able to explain why you are buying/own it in terms that an 11 year old could understand - three sentences at most. Remember this reason and sell the holding when the reason no longer continues to hold. Investing well does not take a genius - only need 5th grade math - so math has nothing to do with being a great investor 8.) There is Always Something to Worry About - and this makes things interesting. The 1950s were one of the best decades to own stocks, but from a geopolitical basis everyone was scared of nuclear war. In the early 1990s, everyone was scared about the Japanese taking over the world and beating America. Not coincidentally, more all-time worst market days occur on Mondays because people have the whole weekend to WORRY. His advice is to forget about all the global bad stuff because the key to good investing is not the brain/intellect, its having the stomach. In addition to the above points, Peter also shared his Ten Most Dangerous Things People Say About Stock Prices reproduced below. Even more than the points above, Peter's good sense of humor came through when he discussed these old saws: 1.) If it's gone down this much already, how much lower can it go? (answer: Zero) 2.) If it's gone this high already, how can it possibly go higher? (some of the best companies grow for decades) 3.) Eventually they always come back. (no they don't - there are lots of counterexamples) 4.) It's only $3 a share, what can I lose? ($3 for every share you buy) 5.) It's always darkest before the dawn. (Its also always darkest before it goes absolutely pitch black. Don't buy a business just because price dropped and it is cheaper now) 6.) When it rebounds to my cost, I'll sell. (The stock does not know you own it! Don't take it so personally Note: this comment is explained by the well documented psychological tendencies called loss aversion and anchoring bias which are talked about in Behavioral Finance. If you liked it at ten, you should love it at 6 so either buy more or sell) 7.) What me worry? Conservative stocks don't fluctuate much. (There is no such thing as a conservative stock - the average stock fluctuates between 50% to 70% from its high to its low price every year. There is a graveyard where all the
Re: [obrolan-bandar] GLOBALISASI BANDARISME....
Pak Oentoeng, kalau masuk bawa portofolio langsung gede emang bahaya, justru saat ini harusnya masuk karena sudah minus 8% dari Jumat kemaren, cuma masuknya jangan banyak2, hari pertama (hari ini) 10% dari dana portofolio, hari kedua 10% dst... lebih aman..., kalau 3x masuk makin parah berhenti dulu :-) cheers iful --- oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GLOBALISASI BANDARISME...or...BANDARISME GLOBAL? Per-BANDAR-an Global...mungkin ini yang pernah dikemukan secara imaginatif oleh Mbah 1. Yang jelas CRASH hari ini bukan BY RUMOR, BY ACCIDENT, BY NEWS, or BYE..BYE..ala FUND MANAGER OUT FROM EMERGING MARKET Karena terjadi BERSAMAAN dengan REGIONAL Yang saya sampai GELENG-GELENG kepala...BISA-BISAnya bareng MERAPI MELETUS, FIX INCOME CRASH (2%),IDR-USD...PROFIT TAKING??? Seperti saya bilang tadi bahwa ada kemungkinan penurunan sd 70 point,..ternyata 96 point dan bikin es lilin penuh. Menandakan bahwa PASTI besok masih turun...Rabu reboundJum'at turun lagi.. Kalau acara ini benarJADI NGGAK USAH TANYA2 ke teman yg LAIN! Karena sama TIDAK TAHU-nya NGGAK usah tanya2, Hehehe Coba kita lihat AGENDA BOZZ...bahwa PENURUNAN TAJAM, SANGAT BESAR hanya akan DITUNJUKKAN HARI INI! Minimal untuk minggu ini kita TIDAK akan melihat yg seperti hari ini lagi ARTINYA...kalau semua acara di atas terjadi...semua INDEKS NAIK/TURUN seperti kata Mbah tak lain tak bukan INDEX ENGINEERING! 2. Kalau kita lihat IDR-USD...dalam satu hari bisa MELOMPAT seperti hari ini. Berarti: MARI KITA PERCAYA BAHWA IDR AKAN KEMBALI KE 10.000 DULU!!! AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. ARTINYAIndeks akan dibawa TURUN TERUS dengan INDIKATOR IDR-USD. Tidak usah mendengarkan KI KA yg ngomong ada ANU ada INI...ANU..ANU Kita lihat aja apa ngomong-nya Analis selebritis Pengamat...dll Kan sudah saya WARNING,..kan sudah saya bilang Indeks naik terlalu tinggi...ANU..ANU..ANU.. Berani TARUHAN?? 3. Mulai sekarang KITA HARUS lebih BERHATI2 karena kalau KEMARIN ASII, BBCA, BBRI, (persahaman)...mulai DIGERGAJI...berarti mulai HARI INI...Indeks BEJ..SINYAL MULAI DIGERGAJI! Berarti TIDAK SALAH kalau di milis OB berlaku bulan MEI adalah BULAN GERGAJI NASIONAL 4. Dalam hal ini saya ikut BEREMPATI buat teman2 OB yang TIDAK SEMPAT merasakan CUAN ketika 1000-1550 sekarang mulai BERBALIK ARAH...ikut BOENTOENGingat nyari DUIT; susah jaman sekarang...ATI2 kalau mau TERUS BERMAIN di BEJ. NOTE: Ingat selalu WARNING dari Mbah...tentang DEAD JSX...kelihatan apapun ALASANNYAsaham BAGUS...apalagi SAHAM JELEK...TURUN TERUS...karena apa...IDR turun...TERUSSS Yang Naikhanya yang mau IKUT BOZZya nggak BOZZ Salam __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "obrolan-bandar" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ALLERT: Nikkei DOWN 5% in 5 days (1553)
saya malah penganut scalper, beli kecil2 dan tersebar, setiap ada movement lakukan profit taking dgn cepat. kalau monitor merah, hold tunggu sampe hijau dikit terus lepas. toh prosentasenya kecil, gak bikin jantungan dan tetap menikmati cuan walau kecil tapi konsisten. cheers sbahri --- jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yang merasa INVESTOR SEJATI, tidak usah terpengaruh dengan HIRUK PIKUKnya gerakan pasukan pak Oentoeng. pak Oentoeng sendiri menyadari perlunya SEGMENTASI antara INVESTOR dan TRADER. Malah harus dipecah lagi antara Trader teknikal dan Trader gerombolan pak Ontoeng yang pake ILMU TANGAN KOSONG naek KERBAU LIAR dengan resiko salah naek BERUANG LAPAR... Sampai saat ini sih SEPERTInya pak Oentoeng masih BEROENTOENG, dan embah doakan pak Oentoeng selalu sehat TIDAK KENA cakaran BERUANG sedikitpun --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalau MAU lihat NASIB BEJ...HARI INIbandingkan dengan NASIB KOREA hari iniGOYANGAN MAUT.. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Bettina Tan bettina.tan@ wrote: Shanghai sebagai emerging market naik pak.. pada pindah dari US ke emerging market ex japan katanya kalo liat di bloomberg.. jadi kesempatan ini mungkin dipake buat beli.. On 5/12/06, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ wrote: Dalam 2 menit perdagangan IHSG -27 EDAN --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- consultant@ wrote: PREOPENING 09:25 IHSG DOWN -13,7 point --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ALX alexmuhairuddin@ wrote: TY Mbah... On 5/12/06, jsx-consultant jsx-consultant@ wrote: 09:00 Saat ini NIKKEI turun -2,16% dan TOTAL sudah turun 5% dalam 5 hari. Sedang IHSG sampe penutupan kemarin NAEK TERUS, total KENAIKAN adalah 4% dalam 4 hari. Jadi dalam lima hari selisih IHSG dan NIKKEI mencapai 9% !!! Note: - Terlampir grafik selisi Nikkei dengan IHSG dalam persen Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Business finance coursehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Business+finance+coursew1=Business+finance+coursew2=Business +to+business+financew3=Small+business+financew4=Business+finance+co nsultantw5=Business+finance+magazinew6=Business+finance+schoolsc=6 s=185.sig=I8jDsORmsaYn0BeqghcJ2w Business to business financehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Business+to+business+financew1=Business+finance+coursew2=Bus iness+to+business+financew3=Small+business+financew4=Business+finan ce+consultantw5=Business+finance+magazinew6=Business+finance+school sc=6s=185.sig=fCzze7cxm1K7TVKkzAaOrA Small business financehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Small+business+financew1=Business+finance+coursew2=Business+ to+business+financew3=Small+business+financew4=Business+finance+con sultantw5=Business+finance+magazinew6=Business+finance+schoolsc=6 s=185.sig=v9sWAno7Kz4WuL8Tadcdhw Business finance consultanthttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Business+finance+consultantw1=Business+finance+coursew2=Busi ness+to+business+financew3=Small+business+financew4=Business+financ e+consultantw5=Business+finance+magazinew6=Business+finance+schools c=6s=185.sig=d1xwT3WL0E6XBf6cAV5BXA Business finance magazinehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Business+finance+magazinew1=Business+finance+coursew2=Busine ss+to+business+financew3=Small+business+financew4=Business+finance+ consultantw5=Business+finance+magazinew6=Business+finance+schoolsc =6s=185.sig=qphRINaNuVm_6bwoQxgUmg Business finance schoolshttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Business+finance+schoolsw1=Business+finance+coursew2=Busines s+to+business+financew3=Small+business+financew4=Business+finance+c onsultantw5=Business+finance+magazinew6=Business+finance+schoolsc= 6s=185.sig=1RfnhYZpV99RKWRZzSH4gA -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group obrolan- bandarhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]obrolan-bandar- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com SPONSORED LINKS Business finance course Business to business finance
[obrolan-bandar] Saham dibawah 500 ala scalper
Apakah saham dibawah 500 itu bahaya...? yg katanya bisa kejedot. saya pernah baca bahwa kelompok scalper di NASDAQ (trader yg profit taking dengan gain yg sangat kecil tapi sering) sering mengincar saham2 yg harganya murah (bukan valuasinya). Strategi mereka memecah portofolio mereka bisa sampai 10 s/d 20 emiten. dan masing2 emiten yg dikoleksi totalnya tidak lebih dari 5%. taruhlah kalau worst case 1 emiten yg kejedot turun sampai 20%, berarti portofolio turun sekitar 1% dan saya anggap tidak terlalu riskan. asalkan emiten yg dipilih sangat liquid. taruhlah BTEL lumayan juga nih saham, saya selalu take profit 2,5% (net profit) lumayan sering (udah 8X take profit selama 2 bulan), gak perlu nunggu sampe longterm. cheers iful __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com SPONSORED LINKS Business finance course Business to business finance Small business finance Business finance consultant Business finance magazine Business finance schools YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "obrolan-bandar" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
