Re: [ob] HMSP going Private?
ti..ati...HMSP hingga akhir taon. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, CUMI.JK (Buy, TP 5000) cumie...@... wrote: Kayaknya ada yang ngasih sinyal terselubung. Pagi ini OD ngasih email dengan Subject: Saham HM Sampoerna kami nilai sangat menarik * Saham HM Sampoerna kami nilai sangat menarik - Unrated (free float sebesar 2%)* Analis: Naya Tirambintang (Danareksa) Saham ini dinilai sangat menarik berdasarkan: 1) Pertumbuhan earnings yang kuat - Earnings HMSP tumbuh dengan CAGR sebesar 18% pa selama 8 tahun ke belakang, salah satu yang terkuat di sektornya - Earnings 1H09 tumbuh sebesar 28% YoY 2) Merupakan pembayar dividend yang sangat murah hati dengan ROE yang tinggi - Payout ratio pernah melebihi 100% dan terakhir sebesar 68% di FY08 - Dividend yield tertinggi di sektor konsumen Danareksa dengan yield 09F diperkirakan mencapai 9% - ROE diprediksikan akan mencapai 55% di 09F atau yang tertinggi kedua setelah UNVR 3) Harga yang atraktif - Saat ini diperdagangkan pada PE historis sebesar 9,6x dan PE09F sebesar 7,5x dengan mengambil asumsi pertumbuhan earnings sebesar 21% - Diperdagangkan terdiskon 51% terhadap IHSG - Bila kita mengambil target PE09F sebesar 10x maka harga saham akan bernilai Rp11.400 Resiko perdagangan berupa likuiditas yang rendah dikarenakan free float yang hanya 2% (Rp735 miliar). Namun demikian jumlah saham free float masih lebih tinggi dibanding beberapa small cap yang kami cover saat ini. === BUY, BUY, BUY! KEEP BUYING AND NEVER SELL! 2009/8/31 tV.kun0 tv.k...@... Wah klo itu ane sama sekali gak tau.. Cuman tadi ane liat HMSP naek kencang, trus ane tanyain k broker, kok HMSP tiba2 naek kencang. Dari broker katanya siih ada berita bahwa HMSP mau go private. Tapi detail2nya ane ga tau bozz.. Btw..klo listed companies mau GP, saham2 yg beredar harus dibuy back diatas harga pasar khan? Sent from my BlackBerry(R) powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -- *From*: Cougar Boy *Date*: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:58:19 +0700 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [ob] HMSP going Private? Masa sih mau GP saya punya HMSP karena dia murah aja..baru masuk beberapa minggu lalu Tapi secara pribadi saya tidak yakin HMSP mau go private. Phillip moris akusisi HMSP dengan hutang. Dan salah satu syarat hutangnya adalah HMSP harus tetap listing di BEI. Apakah hutang phillips moris sudah lunas ?? 2009/8/31 s|nnerman tv.k...@... Ane baru tau dari broker,... Katanya siih hari ini beritanya keluar.. makanya HMSP ditarik teruss... But detail mengenai TP nya ane masih blom tau. Sapatau ada OBers yg bisa kasih info... Hehe... *From:*obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Ajo Ramon *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 10:24 AM *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [ob] HMSP going Private? anda gak akan pernah dapat detailnya, ini adalah philip morris, apakah anda dapat detailnya ketika mereka akan akuisisi HMSP beberapa tahun yang lalu?? -- *From:* Vernichtung gambler@... *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 10:09:25 AM *Subject:* Re: [ob] HMSP going Private? Sudah ada yg pernah post tapi belum ada sumbernya tuh 2009/8/31 s|nnerman tv.k...@gmail. com tv.k...@... Ada yg udah dapat detailnya?
Re: [ob] Shanghai -4%
i tod u nih..he..he.. why don't 75% diskon..hmm.. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote: *Seems like my decision to get out of the market in late July is not that bad, as late July/early august happened to be the year highest of Shanghai Index. I'm a bit surprised with IDX though, very tough market. Give me 50% discount. Hmmm... Elaine** * On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:42 PM, mr_...@... wrote: Mantabb ... Ayo kite sorong kiri komo dikit lagi yuk ... Sent from my AXIS Worry Free BlackBerry® smartphone -- *From*: noto prawiro *Date*: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 23:29:05 -0700 (PDT) *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [ob] Shanghai -4% skrng sudah -6,4% --- On *Mon, 31/8/09, Aria Santoso ariasant...@...* wrote: From: Aria Santoso ariasant...@... Subject: Re: [ob] Shanghai -4% To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 31 August, 2009, 1:27 PM santai aja..., kalo dji nanti malem ijo tebel besok kita panen Ferry wrote: Hayoo loe.. + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links -- New Email names for you! http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/aa/mail/domainchoice/mail/signature/*http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/aa/ Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. Hurry before someone else does!
Re: [ob] amazing bagus putra perdana
bumi besok naik. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, artomoro9 artomo...@... wrote: kang bagus sudah itungin semuanya. bisa aja kang bagus salah. tapi ane percaya kang bagus orang pinter. BUMI INI SPECIAL karakternya. hanya yang jeli yang bisa ikutin BUMI. tul ga kang Bagus..? 2250 masa sih gak dapat? regards, A9 disclaimerontheway --- Pada Sen, 31/8/09, D0N Qicot o5ana_indone...@... menulis: Dari: D0N Qicot o5ana_indone...@... Judul: Re: [ob] amazing bagus putra perdana Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Senin, 31 Agustus, 2009, 3:25 PM  Hasil Performance Emiten Batubara 1H09 : ITMG gain 128% ADRO gain 1570% BYAN gain 3823% BUMI ? kalau melihat kondisi 3 kompetitor tsb... keliatannya emiten batubara berjaya di semester pertama 2009. BUMI bisa aja besok hasilnya Gain 500%  regards, DonQicot DEWA gowes ke GoCeng !! From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 3:12:40 PM Subject: Re: [ob] amazing bagus putra perdana  masa sih bagus hasilnya..? regards, A9 disclaimerontheway --- Pada Sen, 31/8/09, datasahamku datasahamku@ yahoo.com menulis: Dari: datasahamku datasahamku@ yahoo.com Judul: Re: [ob] amazing bagus putra perdana Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Senin, 31 Agustus, 2009, 3:05 PM  BUMI rumornya keluar Lapkeu besok jendral...klo keburu naik ke range atas gmn :) --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, artomoro9 artomoro9@ .. wrote: ane ikut itungan kang bagus dah. ane tungguin di range terbawah aja kalo gitu. ane percaya 100% ama kang Bagus. udah di itungin cape cape. 2 hari 2 malam lagi. àmasa gak percaya sama orang pinter sih.. regards, A9 disclaimerontheway --- Pada Sen, 31/8/09, Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure. inc@ menulis: Dari: Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure. inc@ Judul: Re: [ob] amazing bagus putra perdana Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Senin, 31 Agustus, 2009, 2:30 PM enaknya emang gitu mas boyz. Ke range bawah, yg bawah itu kan itungan EPV current, lebih preferable krn hitungan aset rating premium ROE itu kurang sreg menimbang Isi book BUMI yg kurang padet fixed assetnya. Nah nanti menjelang akhir bulan siap2 H1 rilis trus di upgrade ma riset asing earning jump story baru enak kan balik ke range atas. Apa ini valuasi kok range nya lebar bener. Payah yg ngitungnya hahah On 8/31/09, boyz m4573rs@ wrote: ja..ja..jadi ??? range-nya brp kang ocoy ? jendral arto udah terlanjur jualan banyak tuh... :p ehehe.. Salam, 2009/8/31 Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure. inc@ àBook Asset adjustment Pak, semacam shortcutàcari asset adjustment. ini tools iseng sayah yang sebenernya gak reliable tapi buat ngitung ekstra kilat sih lumayan. basisnya adalah premis bahwa aset ekuitas minimal harus kasih ROE diatas 15-16% untuk justifikasi boleh dihargai 1X BV. jadi ROE premium diatas 16% itu berhak mendapat rating lebih, dan rating BV Premim sekian X nya itu adalah ROE / ROE pasar dipangkat 1.5 karena asumsinya kelebihan excess dari ROE dapat direinvestment sehingga book value (aset bagi pemegang ekuitas) bisa compound lebih cepat. aset yang punya ROE 25% secara logis bisa Compound lebih cepat nilai asetnya dari aset yg generate ROE 15% sehingga nilai BV secara economicnya layak dihargai lebih tinggi. pangkat 1.5 asumsi holding period 5 tahun pak dan kalo asumsi holding period diatas 10 tahun dan earningnya terlihat sustain dan visible saya juga suka kasih angka pangkat 2. ini itungan iseng aja sih. biasa buat itungan kasar sebelun saya masuk lebih dalem buat bottom up. wah iya salah hitung sodara2... tengkyu pak irwan, mohon dipersori ini salah itung soalnya sambil sahur rada ngantuk2 ngitungnya. emang saya rada kurang enak pake Texas BA enakan pake kalkulator casio dah. sori-sori salah itung... yang bener angka pak irwan.. nah range nya berubah lagi dah tuh kan.. (ROE 40.87% karena saya perhitungkan level ini hanya akan sustain untuk jangka waktu 5 tahun jadi pangkatnya 1.5. di depan itu ROE 40.87% bisa reinvested constant agak terlalu demanding) Tools cepet aja Pak, Aproximasi awal. in the end decision mesti tetep cek balance en sustainable earning masa depan sih. ini tools kalo lagi rada males bikin input model pro forma sih pak... 2009/8/31 Irwan Napitupulu irwannapitupulu@ ... Ulasan Pak Bagus sangat
[ob] Re: BUMI Wave3 atau Wave 5
elliot wave biasanya baru ketauan wave mana sesudah kejadian kalo sebelum nga ada yg bisa nebak makanya bener terus --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, NuBeeTrader saw...@... wrote: Sblmnyaada yg menduga W3 ada juga W5meski sy masih menganut W5. Mengacu pada Tretaa Rulebaik W3 ataupun W5...keputusan EXIT mungkin yg terbaik karena Koreksi sudah didepan mata.sejauh apa ? Estimasi 2700 Disclaimer ON Yahoo! Mail Kini Lebih Cepat dan Lebih Bersih. Rasakan bedanya sekarang! http://id.mail.yahoo.com
Re: [ob] Shanghai -4%
kadang kita tidak perlu selalu tergantung ama logika --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, putera...@... wrote: It is hard to believe, when you say bnbr will 400 at the end of year 2009 without telling the reason Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@... Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:45:03 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Shanghai -4% *Why ask? I thought you don't believe me. Elaine** * On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 2:14 PM, JoLind jems...@... wrote: How about BNBR??? Regards -- *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Elaine Sui *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 3:09 PM *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [ob] Shanghai -4% *Seems like my decision to get out of the market in late July is not that bad, as late July/early august happened to be the year highest of Shanghai Index. I'm a bit surprised with IDX though, very tough market.
[ob] Kenapa ane suka the 7th brothers...
...untuk paling tidak 5 taon ke depan. Simple aja, tp ini cuma feeling doang. BG dijadikan kendaraan oleh 'you know who' utk memupuk kekayaan secara clandestine.
[ob] Re: [Ask I Ching] Bgm BEI bulan Agustus ini? 01 August 2009
for the record only : bei 31 aug +18 poin dari 31 july --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ichingprediction wimanto...@... wrote: ICHING answer : Yin (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yin (Old) Yin (Old) The present is embodied in Hexagram 62 - Hsiao Kuo (Preponderance of the Small): In these circumstances which it implies, there will be progress and attainment, but it will be advantageous to be firm and correct. Action may be taken in small affairs, but not in great affairs. Like the notes that come down from a bird on the wing, to descend is better than to ascend. There will, in this way, be great good fortune. The first (bottommost) line, divided, suggests the idea of a bird flying, and ascending till the issue is evil. The second line, divided, shows its subject passing by his grandfather, and meeting with his grandmother - not attempting anything against his ruler, but meeting him as his minister. There will be no error. The situation is shifting, and Yang (the active masculine force) is gaining ground. Yin (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) The future is embodied in Hexagram 34 - Ta Chuang (The Power of the Great): It will be advantageous to be firm and correct. The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the upper trigram Chen (Thunder), which represents movement, initiative, and action. The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the lower trigram Ken (Mountain), which is transforming into Chi'en (Heaven). As part of this process, stillness and obstruction are giving way to strength and creativity. -- Interpretasi ane: BEI kayaknya masih oke di bulan Agustus, namun tetap hati-hati. Ini masih sejalan dengan prediksi ane ttg BEI hingga akhir tahun 2009 (naik dulu baru turun, tgl 19 July 2009) Disc. on. always tentunya.
[ob] IDX bulan Sept
Coming to meet (hex 44.2.5) to Wanderer (56) Terima keadaan, mulai menurun semenjak sekarang, akan membaik nanti.
Re: [ob] Shanghai -4%
pak de ane perhatiin ngomongnya suka nyerempet-nyerempet ke parno..he..he..he...tapi gpp ane suka tipe ini, nga hipokrit. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@... wrote: Maksudnya bozz ga ridho ngasih EL diskon jadi ihsg diganjel, pasukan peacemaker dikerahin bozz untuk mencegah tindakan anarkis destruktif. Tapi tampaknya p jend, p boyz, p oen tmasuk master iching dan mbah KAYANYA bersetubuh.. Eh bersekutu dengan EL (bearish) ditambah pasukkan barongsai kecebur empang tadi siang. Sementara bozz dikawal tentara bayaran spt tbumi, tasrul dan rei. Apakah bozz akan defensif, atau malah hajar kanan buat gebuk shorter? Kita liat besok dalam episode maju kena, mundur kena heheh
Re: [ob] 2250.
bei pagi ini masih ijo --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, dario kurniawan darioamran1...@... wrote: nah lho kl udah nyebut angka begini emang bakalan disamperin tuh ? Dario Amran --- Pada Sel, 1/9/09, AB asepbuh...@... menulis: Dari: AB asepbuh...@... Judul: RE: [ob] 2250. Kepada: hepisa...@... hepisa...@... Cc: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Selasa, 1 September, 2009, 7:00 AM Jgn 2000 non, 2250 aja krn 2+2+5+0=9 Angka cantik... He2x Ab hepisaham wrote: 2000. BOLEH GA NIH! !!. kindly regards. hepisaham *simple and stress free trading style* Berselancar lebih cepat. Internet Explorer 8 yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! otomatis membuka 2 halaman favorit Anda setiap kali Anda membuka browser. Dapatkan IE8 di sini! http://downloads. yahoo.com/ id/internetexplo rer quot;Coba Yahoo! Mail baru yang LEBIH CEPAT. Rasakan bedanya sekarang! http://id.mail.yahoo.comquot;
[ob] INCO hingga 4 Sept
Stagnation (hex 12.3.4) to Gradual Progress (hex 53). Intinya : kebalikan dari PGAS
Re: [ob] INCO hingga 4 Sept
nga maen unvr bos --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Spiderman nadya...@... wrote: Kalo UNVR ichingnya bagaimana boss? Thx Sent from my #63723; StrawBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat BEJ -Original Message- From: ichingprediction iching_predict...@... Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 11:54:14 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] INCO hingga 4 Sept Stagnation (hex 12.3.4) to Gradual Progress (hex 53). Intinya : kebalikan dari PGAS + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] INCO hingga 4 Sept
I dari I Ching berarti mudah/simple. Jadi interpretasinya mudah aja, cukup liat arti hex yg diberikan dan gunakan instuisi utk mengaplikasikannya ke pertanyaan/kondisi yg ada. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, AB asepbuh...@... wrote: Pura2 turun tp mau naik gitu pak wim...? ichingprediction wrote: Stagnation (hex 12.3.4) to Gradual Progress (hex 53). Intinya : kebalikan dari PGAS Apa dia selingkuh? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers. http://id.answers.yahoo.com
Re: [ob] bumi resources
nga tau kapan..mungkin aja 2012 or tahun depan..he..he.. cuma tebakan kasar aja --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, agung aja agung.ke...@... wrote: Kapan 14,000 nya pak ??? regards From: ichingprediction iching_predict...@... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 12:15:04 PM Subject: Re: [ob] bumi resources Bumi minggu depan paling mentok naik dikit. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Metal Bull metallic.bull@ ... wrote: Kalau memperhatikan postingan Pak Arto tentang SSE, kemungkinan besar Pak Arto mau guyur BUMI habis-habisan nih... please confirm, Jendral!
Re: [ob] INCO hingga 4 Sept
bnbr sampe akhir tahun bagus (liat #179743), unsp nga maen --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, funky81.tra...@... wrote: Om Iching, BNBR ama UNSP dung :) bisa gak? Makasi Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: ichingprediction iching_predict...@... Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 12:30:26 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] INCO hingga 4 Sept nga maen unvr bos --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Spiderman nadyakho@ wrote: Kalo UNVR ichingnya bagaimana boss? Thx Sent from my #63723; StrawBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat BEJ -Original Message- From: ichingprediction iching_prediction@ Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 11:54:14 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] INCO hingga 4 Sept Stagnation (hex 12.3.4) to Gradual Progress (hex 53). Intinya : kebalikan dari PGAS + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] amazing bagus putra perdana
Jadi simpulannya 2200-3411, sampe kapan? Agak lebih rendah dari analis lain (lupa namanya) : 4000 = 4,136 Bio USD / Shares Outstand = Rp 2200 EPV = Rp 290 / 12 % = Rp 2417 EPV = Rp 290 / (12% - 3.5%) = Rp 3411 Nah Kita dapat Range Valuasi Rp 2250 â Rp 3411 untuk saat ini.
Re: [ob] amazing bagus putra perdana
ane coba-coba ngikutin formula buku rule one investor (metode warren buffet) dapetnya rp. 14.000, apa ane yang salah ya...maklum belon ngerti full uda coba2..he..he.. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@... wrote: Daisy Suryo kalo gak salah memang Rp 4000, cuman toolsnya DCF dan Multiple. Kalo pake metode itu mungkin hitungan saya juga bisa sampe kesana bahkan lebih. Buat OB beda dikit lah. mana yg bener? 2-2nya bener. Valuasi itu cuman aproximasi, tergantung comfortnya masing2 pengguna aja. Sell siders mungkin memang cenderung forward-based tp buy-siders secara natural emang biasanya agak defensif valuasinya (soalnya ambil posisi). Daisy jg mungkin lebih confident sama level produksi en operasi Bumi. On 8/31/09, ichingprediction iching_predict...@... wrote: Jadi simpulannya 2200-3411, sampe kapan? Agak lebih rendah dari analis lain (lupa namanya) : 4000 = 4,136 Bio USD / Shares Outstand = Rp 2200 EPV = Rp 290 / 12 % = Rp 2417 EPV = Rp 290 / (12% - 3.5%) = Rp 3411 Nah Kita dapat Range Valuasi Rp 2250 â Rp 3411 untuk saat ini. -- Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact, everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific truth. - Richard Feynman
[ob] Re: (Oot) Hati-hati dengan hp anda...
ha..ha..ha..kupret lucu banget! --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, hewik...@... wrote: Ratna adalah seorang ibu rumah tangga yg selalu setia pd suaminya. Dia selalu menunggu kedatangan suaminya pulang dr kantor utk menyambutnya dgn cinta dan kasih sayang. Suatu hari, Ratna ingin memasakkan makanan istimewa utk suaminya. Dia menelpon Handphone sang suami utk menanyakan apa makanan yg diinginkannya hari ini. Ternyata pulsa Ratna habis. Dia berteriak pada Tono, anaknya yg lagi maen Sony Playstation di lantai atas. Ton, tolong telponin HP Papamu, pulsa mama habis nih. Bilang Papa, Mama nanyain mo makan apa papa hari ini. Iya ma, jawab Tono. Tak lama kemudian Tono turun. Udah 3 kali Tono telpon, papa gak jawab ma. Yg jawab malah cewek ujar Tono. Muka Ratna merah padam, tapi dia berusaha menahan kemarahan di depan anaknya. Ya sudah kamu naik ke atas katanya. Sore sang suami pulang. Tanpa ba bi bu Ratna lansung memukulnya dengan sapu di rumah tanpa ampun. Sang suami berteriak teriak kesakitan. Ratna tidak peduli lagi, kemarahannya memuncak. Para tetangga berdatangan dan melerai. Pak RT juga datang. Setelah disabarkan, Ratna menanyakan pada suaminya siapa wanita yg diselingkuhinya. Sang suami membantah, mereka saling tuduh. Akhirnya Tono dipanggil. Ini saksinya anakmu 3 kali dia menelpon hp mu. Yg jawab pelacurmu itu ujar Ratna kasar. Bilang Ton apa bener kamu denger cewek ngangkat hp papa...??? I..i..i..yaaa pa. Hah bohong kamu...!! Emang cewek itu bilang apa? Di.. di.. dia bilang nomor yg anda tuju sedang tidak aktif atau berada di luar servis area. Cobalah beberapa saat lagi.* Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...!
Re: [ob] (Oot) Awas Jangan di baca Istri !
intinya : 2/3 waktu co digunakan utk mikirin sex sedangkan 2/3 waktu ce buat materi. jadi jgn heran liat ce cakep gandengannya jelek setengah mampus or om-om. begitu pula jgn heran co punya simpanan lebih dari satu. ini hukum alam, ayo sapa yg berani ngelawan hukum alam...he..he..he --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Metal Bull metallic.b...@... wrote: Lelaki memang mahluk bodoh. Hampir semua suami merasa bahwa istrinya tidak mungkin selingkuh, padahal statistik menyatakan sebalikya. Bahkan para istri yang berpenampilan menarik, memiliki kecenderungan lebih tingi untuk selingkuh dibanding kalau suami yang good looking. Jangan gampang percaya kalau istri Anda bilang bahwa dia akan jalan-jalan dengan temannya, karena temannya itulah alibi yang sangat mudah dan dapat dipercaya oleh Anda. Don't be too gullible. - Original Message - From: VF vnnfortuna...@... To: Obrolan bandar obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [ob] (Oot) Awas Jangan di baca Istri ! Waduh gw mah pake TV LCD pa.. HP touch screen.. Nah loh... Hahahaaa - VF -
[ob] (oot) Pengen anak co apa anak ce?
Ini tip dari hasil ngobrol dgn seorang apek tua umur udah bau tanah. 1. Kalo mau anak co, waktu maen dua-duanya harus puas, dijamin ntar anaknya pasti cowok. 2. Kalo mau anak ce, waktu maen salah satu harus ngalah/jgn puas, dijamin ntar anaknya cewek.
[ob] Re: (Oot) SEX:
he..he..ob di weekend berubah jadi OB=Obrolan Bebas OOT=Obrolan Orang Tua --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, coki...@... wrote: Suatu pagi seorang anak yang baru masuk sekolah dasar bertanya kepadaayahnya,'Yahayah sex itu apa sih, yah.?'Terperanjat si ayah mendengar pertanyaan si upik. Terbayang dia tentang arus moderen zaman sekarang yang membuat manusia berfikiran terbuka,termasuk anak yang masih kecil.Sesuai dengan konsep pendidikan seks yang sedang hangat dibicarakan, mulailah si ayah mencari-cari jawaban yang sesuai dengan umur dan harapan anaknya yang ia harapkan tak mau tertinggal dalam arus pendidikan modern. Maka si ayah pun mulai memberikan jawaban dengan mengkiaskan kumbang dan bunga, telur katak yang menetas menjadi berudu dan kemudian menjadi katak, hujan serta benih yang berkembang menjadi tunas, diikuti dengan pembentukan bayi dalam kandungan!. Sebelum mengakhiri semua jawaban itu, si ayah menyelipkan juga kisah percintaan antara ia dan mamanya sejak dari zaman sekolah menengah hingga sampai kelahiran seorang bayi comel yaitu si anak yang bertanya itu. Tiba-tiba si anak menangis terisak-isak. Si ayah keheranan'Eh kenapa ya.?'Si ayah bertanya keheranan. Tetapi si anak masih tetap menangis..'Jawabannya panjang amat.hu.huhu, terus dimana tempat untuk nulis jawabannya...?Ayah ajalah yang nulis jawabannya !...hu..hu..hu'Si anak lantas menyerahkan buku latihan Bahasa Inggris yang pada muka depannya tertulis NAME : .. SCHOOL : .. CLASS : .. SEX : ... AGE : ... Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: toto aja tototj...@... Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:25:28 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] (Oot) Awas Jangan di baca Istri ! lagi curhat ya mas ? *pi* 2009/8/29 Metal Bull metallic.b...@... Lelaki memang mahluk bodoh. Hampir semua suami merasa bahwa istrinya tidak mungkin selingkuh, padahal statistik menyatakan sebalikya. Bahkan para istri yang berpenampilan menarik, memiliki kecenderungan lebih tingi untuk selingkuh dibanding kalau suami yang good looking. Jangan gampang percaya kalau istri Anda bilang bahwa dia akan jalan-jalan dengan temannya, karena temannya itulah alibi yang sangat mudah dan dapat dipercaya oleh Anda. Don't be too gullible. - Original Message - From: VF vnnfortuna...@... To: Obrolan bandar obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [ob] (Oot) Awas Jangan di baca Istri ! Waduh gw mah pake TV LCD pa.. HP touch screen.. Nah loh... Hahahaaa - VF - -Original Message- From: tommy_ya...@... Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 04:59:37 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] (Oot) Awas Jangan di baca Istri ! Istri itu ibarat TV, dan selingkuhan itu ibarat HP: -Di rumah nonton TV, keluar bawa HP. -Gak ada uang, nonton TV. Banyak uang cari HP baru. - TV gak butuh pengeluaran, tapi HP kalo gak diisi pulsa ya gak bisa dipake. - TV biasanya berbentuk besar, gendut, dan sudah tua, tapi HP biasanya imut dan bisa dibawa kemana-mana. - Biaya operasional TV murah, tapi HP mahal. - TV gak bisa disembunyikan, tapi HP bisa. - TV biasanya membosankan, tapi HP membawa kesenangan.
Re: [ob] (Oot) Hati-hati dengan hp anda...
Ada 2 jenis burung : 1. burung bujang lapuk ato 2. burung AIDS= Anunya Itu Digunakan Sembarangan wkwkwkwk --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@... wrote: Banjak boedjang lapoek disini jah.. poenja boeroeng soedah 40 tahoen tjoema boeat pipis doang... hahaha Regards, DE Pada 29 Agustus 2009 15:11, Jimmy
[ob] PGAS hingga 4 Sept
Progress/advance (hex 35.5) to Stagnation (hex 12).
Re: [ob] PGAS hingga 4 Sept
Pgas naik tp kenaikannya terhalang sementara (bisa koreksi, profit taking, bd, dow, etc). Stagnasi/halangan ini tidak cukup kuat menahan kenaikan pgas selanjutnya. Tp kenaikan berikutnya butuh waktu. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei highwaysta...@... wrote: Artinya apa pak? Thanks. On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 8:14 AM, ichingprediction iching_predict...@... wrote: Progress/advance (hex 35.5) to Stagnation (hex 12).
bumi Re: [ob] Re: watch DOID
bumi nilainya 14.000 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Tom DS tom.ds.st...@... wrote: *Don't get me wrong ya... maksudnya ditrading pada relative PBV 85-94% terhadap industri yaitu adalah apabila industri PBV = 3.3 x, berarti BUMI akan di-trading di PBV 2.8 - 3.1x. Tinggal dilihat likuiditas stock market kita akan seperti apa dalam 4 bulan ke depan, karena akan sangat mempengaruhi trading multipliers nya. Jangan lupa volatilitas harus di-priced-in, juga Weighted Average Price.* ** ** *T.o.m* On 8/30/09, Tom DS tom.ds.st...@... wrote: *Hahaha.. pasti ribet ngitungnya apalagi mau dicocokin sama harga sekarang atau historical price nya.. nggak masuk...* *Memang secara fundamental dan dihitung replacement value BUMI pasti tinggi (diatas Rp 5,000/share saat ini, apalagi memeprhitungkan reserve resource value plus operating leverage nya), tapi masalahnya di pasar modal nggak bisa apple-to-apple dihitung dengan menggunakan fair value based on replacement value karena di pasar modal harus memperhitungkan berapa besar share yang beredar, faktor sentimen market, dsb. * *Yg paling penting harus dihitung fair trading multipliers nya (either bookvalue multiply or earning multiply nya, tetap dengan dikombinasi memperhitungkan projection dengan DCF). Asumsi harga coal dan stripping cost juga signifikan pengaruhnya.* *Maret/April lalu saya sempat hitung fair valuenya ada di sekitar 2600-3000an untuk akhir tahun tapi belum memperhitungkan massive stock liquidity di stock market kita yang luar biasa saat April-July..* ** *Apabila dengan financial position yg kurang lebih sama dengan laporan keuangan BUMI Q1 2009 saja, BUMI harusnya ditrading di PBV 85-94% terhadap PBV industri (average PBV BUMI, ADRO, BYAN, ITMG PTBA). Trust me on this...* ** ** *T.o.m* On 8/30/09, artomoro9 artomo...@... wrote: mana itungan buminya kang bagus..? regards, A9
Re: [ob] PGAS hingga 4 Sept
Ane rasa pgas minggu depan naik dulu trus koreksi en minggu depan naik lagi. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei highwaysta...@... wrote: Oh..jadi pasti akan naik walau terhalang sementara oleh stagflasi tapi tdk cukup kuat utk menahan kenaikannya ya.Besok bandar kontrarian gak neh hehe Thank you pak Iching. 2009/8/30 ichingprediction iching_predict...@... Pgas naik tp kenaikannya terhalang sementara (bisa koreksi, profit taking, bd, dow, etc). Stagnasi/halangan ini tidak cukup kuat menahan kenaikan pgas selanjutnya. Tp kenaikan berikutnya butuh waktu. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Rei highwaystar91@ wrote: Artinya apa pak? Thanks. On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 8:14 AM, ichingprediction iching_prediction@ wrote: Progress/advance (hex 35.5) to Stagnation (hex 12).
Re: [ob] bumi resources
Bumi minggu depan paling mentok naik dikit. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Metal Bull metallic.b...@... wrote: Kalau memperhatikan postingan Pak Arto tentang SSE, kemungkinan besar Pak Arto mau guyur BUMI habis-habisan nih... please confirm, Jendral!
[ob] Re: Jajal Tebak IHSG, tutup antara 2375-2381
kalo ane lebih suka nebak yg pasti nga pake range en pagi2 bukan pas mo tutup beberapa menit lagi. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Irwan Napitupulu irwannapitup...@... wrote: Gue jajal tebak tutupnya IHSG saja deh. Tebakan hari ini, moga2 direstui bandar BEI, tutupnya diantara 2375-2381. IAN
[ob] Re: Jajal Tebak IHSG, tutup antara 2375-2381
nga perlu maaf bung ian, emang salah ape..he..he... btw minggu depan rasanya bumi masih jalan ditempat, bsde turun. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Irwan Napitupulu irwannapitup...@... wrote: Maaf deh kalau begitu, ini tebakannya hanya untuk fun saja koq, bukan untuk apa2. Jangan terlalu dianggap serius ya :) IAN 2009/8/28 ichingprediction iching_predict...@...: kalo ane lebih suka nebak yg pasti nga pake range en pagi2 bukan pas mo tutup beberapa menit lagi. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Irwan Napitupulu irwannapitupulu@ wrote: Gue jajal tebak tutupnya IHSG saja deh. Tebakan hari ini, moga2 direstui bandar BEI, tutupnya diantara 2375-2381. IAN + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
[ob] Re: OOT: Ulos pun Diklaim Malaysia + 30an seni budaya kita dicuri
yg lengah emang sering dimanfaatin oleh yg waspada. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Saham Oke wasi...@... wrote: Menurut Forum Kebudayaan Indonesia, sudah 32 budaya Indonesia yang budaya Indonesia yang diduga dicuri, dipatenkan, diklaim, dan atau dieksploitasi secara komersial oleh korporasi asing, oknum warga negara asing, ataupun negara lain, 21 diantaranya diklaim oleh Malaysia. http://tujuhbelas.net/hot-topics/ulos-pun-diklaim-malaysia Pamer gaya dengan skin baru yang keren. Coba Yahoo! Messenger 9.0 baru sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com
[ob] Re: OOT: Ulos pun Diklaim Malaysia + 30an seni budaya kita dicuri
sabar...lagian ini weekend..lagi nonton film jadul 'indescent proposal' demi moore, ttg cinta en seks...he..he --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Bozz Traders powerman.tra...@... wrote: Iching mana nih prediksinya, mainkan dong setiap hari. _ From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ichingprediction Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:46 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Re: OOT: Ulos pun Diklaim Malaysia + 30an seni budaya kita dicuri yg lengah emang sering dimanfaatin oleh yg waspada. --- In obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, Saham Oke wasisbh@ wrote: Menurut Forum Kebudayaan Indonesia, sudah 32 budaya Indonesia yang budaya Indonesia yang diduga dicuri, dipatenkan, diklaim, dan atau dieksploitasi secara komersial oleh korporasi asing, oknum warga negara asing, ataupun negara lain, 21 diantaranya diklaim oleh Malaysia. http://tujuhbelas. http://tujuhbelas.net/hot-topics/ulos-pun-diklaim-malaysia net/hot-topics/ulos-pun-diklaim-malaysia
Re: [ob] Black September for Stock Market ?
menurut iching bulan sept dan oct emang bulan paling jelek buat stock market dan akan selalu berulang. http://suneasy.net/iching/eindex.htm --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, VF ⢠vnnfortuna...@... wrote: Waduh judulnya ngeri amat ya.. Kalo di indonesia adanya september ceria pa.. Hehe.. - VF - -Original Message- From: dunia ini indah pusatdu...@... Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 05:13:40 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Black September for Stock Market ? Black September for Stock Market ? For Stocks, September May Be the Cruelest Month September is fewer than three weeks away. Feeling nervous? Maybe you should be. For investors, the period between Labor Day and Halloween is proving an annual fright show. And no one knows why. It was, of course, in September last year that Lehman collapsed and everything fell apart. But then it was also September-October 2002 that the last bear market plunged to its lows. The 1998 financial crisis? It began late August, and rolled on for two months. The famous crash of 1987 came in October. But most people have forgotten that the market actually started sliding downhill in late August. That's almost exactly what happened in 1929 too. The big crash came in October, but the market peaked just after Labor Day. Prices began falling through September, then tumbled further still. The worst month of the Depression? September, 1931, when the Dow fell about 30 percent.
[ob] Re: OOT - survey kepuasan pria
arrhhh...dunia memang indah krn 3 hal utama yaitu : MONEY, POWER SEX. Coba bayangin dunia tanpa ke 3 hal di atas... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, VF ⢠vnnfortuna...@... wrote: Tingkat Kepuasan Pria Saat Tidur Bersama Wanita Berikut hasil survei terbaru yang menganalisa tingkat kepuasan pria saat tidur bersama wanita menurut majalah Ahem..ah yes. .no! edisi Agustus 2008: 1. Tidur dengan Wanita Cantik .Bangga ½ mati 2. Tidur dengan PSK .. Mahal ½ mati 3. Tidur dengan Wanita Jelek . ..Stress ½ mati 4. Tidur dengan Wanita Hyper..Capek ½ mati 5. Tidur dengan Pacar . . . Nafsu ½ mati 6. Tidur dengan Istri . . ...mending pura-pura mati 7. Tidur dengan isteri Orang... nafsu nggak mati-mati 8. Tidur dengan isteri Tentara .. . sudah pasti mati - VF -
Re: [ob] DOW F +25, OIL 72,8
malem sabtu masi di ob en ngomongin enga keruan tanda 'bujangan' semua..he..he.. sekalian dah, ayo pilih : 1. pandangan hidup : dipandang lgs hidup 2. pegangan hidup : di pegang baru hidup 3. enga 1, 2 alias dipandang maupun dipegang enga mau idup2. wkwkwkkwkkw --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli...@... wrote: Tenang Mas Boys. Saya suka liat di Film Film, orang bule dalam 8 Jam bisa sampai 2-3 x sampai high.. Yg pertama memang sebentar aja, yg ke 2 dan 3 baru kencang dan lama :P Trading With The Wind At My Back !!! -Original Message- From: boyz m457...@... Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 22:03:14 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] DOW F +25, OIL 72,8 ngga kuat kayaknya tuh, bro.boro-boro 8 jam... peltu alias nempel langsung metu :p hehehe... 2009/8/28 VF ⢠vnnfortuna...@... Wah langsung 'ng*ceng' tuh.. Tinggal tunggu kuat ga ya kira2 bule maen 8 jam... Ledes2 dah... Genjot terus mang.. Oil ma komo jgn lupa yeee buat pelumas biar jreg
Re: [ob] Gocekan kah..
Jadi panas suasananya kayak IDX. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote: *Coz I'm good, that's why [?] most ppl do that. Elaine** * On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:34 PM, b3tonsportz b3tonspo...@... wrote: hahahaha quoting old post to show how good you are, sounds like what you used to do in the past. *peace* --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui elainesui83@ wrote: *Yes, you guys are good, I know. Anyone else want to share some success story here? The I-am-good kinda story? The hey-I-can-do-this story? Perhaps you can quote some older posts, just to tell how good you guys are [?] Elaine** * On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:43 PM, vaulstrad@ wrote: For Elaine, Last time when it fall, I didn't sell any of my stock in my portfolio and now still doing not too bad. Even though it might be a lot better if I sell and Buy at the bottom. But I would not know when to BUY / ENTER. Lucky averaging down when the market down help me. So it really doesn't matter if idx goes to 1000 because I know it will come back up hard! Sent from my BlackBerry� powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: Joe Grunk joe_grunk@ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:26:00 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Gocekan kah.. Saya sih dari dulu sih gak percaya EL. Klo cuma iseng2 untuk rumor sih bolehlah. EL masalahnya gede banget portfonya jadi gak lincah, gak bisa lompat kanan kiri. Jadi Saya maklum. Sebab klo ikut EL gak bisa untung guede Tp saya salute ama dia. Tentunya Mbah -owner ob- juga dongg. Ini juga baru sempet baca2 OB setelah sekian lama gak liat. Kebanyakan email, jadi blm sempet. NOTE: mbah, bandarmologi udah dipatenin loh ama orang lain. Bener gak? --- Pada Sel, 25/8/09, Elaine Sui elainesui83@ menulis: Dari: Elaine Sui elainesui83@ Judul: Re: [ob] Gocekan kah.. Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Selasa, 25 Agustus, 2009, 11:40 PM You don't have to. Elaine On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:10 PM, ivan ipang88@ wrote: Cewek yg satu ini emang nyolot... Lama2 gw gak percaya deh ama loe EL... Sent from my BullBerry� SmatphoneFrom: Elaine Sui Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:59:57 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Gocekan kah.. What if IDX went below 1000, do you still hold? Elaine On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Rei highwaystar91@ wrote: Most likely invest till my target prices is met for my stocks. On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Elaine Sui elainesui83@ wrote: lolz!! nah, I gave up on IDX since end of July.., but no worry lah. Still can make profit with careful day trading, right. Or you invest forever... Elaine On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Rei highwaystar91@ wrote: A good sign if regional markets are DOWN, not when UP lol On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Rei highwaystar91@ wrote: I take that as a good sign... :-) 2009/8/26 Elaine Sui elainesui83@ Can't go anywhere without permission. IDX is locked. Elaine On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:31 PM, VF � vnnfortunatus@ wrote: Shanghai : 1,8% Nikkei : 1,48% Hangseng : 0,46% STI : 0,16% DOW F +16 - VF - + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) mailto:obrolan-bandar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com Lebih Bersih, Lebih Baik, Lebih Cepat - Rasakan Yahoo! Mail baru yang Lebih Cepat hari ini! http://id.mail.yahoo.com + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + +
Re: [ob] prediksi pak Tasrul :)
mau cantik kek kalo kita nga ada duitnya, mana mau tu ce ama kita..he..he --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Irwan Napitupulu irwannapitup...@... wrote: reporter metrotv cantik2. Maria lebih cantik dilihat langsung. :) IAN 2009/8/28 Vernichtung gambler@...: Pak Tasrul Maria realnya secantik yg di TV? 2009/8/28 Tasrul tas...@... Kok keluarnya di Inilah.Com ya ? padahal kemarin ane ditanya soal ini oleh Maria Kalaij (Metro TV - by phone). Jadi binun
Re: [ob] prediksi pak Tasrul :)
Lagi bertapa..he..he.. Bumi secantik reporter metrotv sesi 2. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, B_ND nyaham.d...@... wrote: Mankanya buruan dong cuan.. Ngemeng-ngemeng, kok ngak ada prediksi iching nya lagi nih pak 2009/8/28 ichingprediction iching_predict...@... mau cantik kek kalo kita nga ada duitnya, mana mau tu ce ama kita..he..he --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Irwan Napitupulu irwannapitupulu@ wrote: reporter metrotv cantik2. Maria lebih cantik dilihat langsung. :) IAN 2009/8/28 Vernichtung gambler.bej@: Pak Tasrul Maria realnya secantik yg di TV? 2009/8/28 Tasrul Tasrul@ Kok keluarnya di Inilah.Com ya ? padahal kemarin ane ditanya soal ini oleh Maria Kalaij (Metro TV - by phone). Jadi binun -- Regards, B_ND
Re: [ob] Salam Kenal to ALL
'yang merasa tahu tidak luas pengetahuannya, yang luas pengetahuannya merasa tidak tahu' - lao tze --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jacob Oen oenja...@... wrote: Great pak boyz.!!! Kalau menganggap seperti newbie terus kan paling tidak tetap bisa bersemangat untuk aktif di OB milis. Something new, always new, and thinking newly that what makes people EXCITED. Hehehe Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [When the heart is good, everything else is good.] -Original Message- From: boyz m457...@... Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 06:18:38 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Salam Kenal to ALL Ampyun jend. kopral jangan di suruh push-up. abisnya mBah ga mau nurunin ilmu-nya sih jend... kaga buka workshop or kursus. makanya ane sampe sekarang masih nubie trus. nasib... nasib... From: artomoro9 artomo...@... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 26 August 2009 7:46:37 Subject: Re: [ob] Salam Kenal to ALL ye newbie dari jaman kuda gigit BG.
[ob] Re: TO Mbah : OUTFLOWkah .......?????
Artinya besok bumi naik. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jacob Oen oenja...@... wrote: Betul Mbah. Bandar Bakrie ternyata jauh lebih cerdas dari Bandar Adro. No offense.!!! This is fact. Need evidence? Bumi ditutup +0%, ADRO -3.47%. Hehehe... Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [When the heart is good, everything else is good.] -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:51:16 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Re: TO Mbah : OUTFLOWkah ...? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, icchanks icchanks@ wrote: Iya neh, ayunannya kurang yahud, turun dan naik dak maximal...gak seru!!! Kalo orang lagi males maen, artinya saat BD Bakrie masuk dong... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, rangga_the_demon rangga_the_demon@ wrote: ..serem ga mbah Thx b4.. BD lagi puasa, maen saham kurang... hehehe...
Re: [ob] BUMI buy more Herald
b'tul, besok senen bumi turun (hex. 33.1 to 25) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Ferry ferry.wachj...@... wrote: Kayak nya BUMI besok bakalan turun dech.betul gak Ching? From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of M Herman Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:28 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; sa...@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI buy more Herald secara fundamental kayaknya gak ada positifnya soalnya herald belum produksi ...tapi mungkin secara sentimen ya nunjukin bumi masih banyak duit hehehe --- On Sat, 8/22/09, vaulst...@... mailto:vaulstrad%40yahoo.com vaulst...@... mailto:vaulstrad%40yahoo.com wrote: From: vaulst...@... mailto:vaulstrad%40yahoo.com vaulst...@... mailto:vaulstrad%40yahoo.com Subject: [ob] BUMI buy more Herald To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , sa...@yahoogroups.com mailto:saham%40yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 12:32 AM Apa pengaruh BUMI yang berani membayar extra premium untuk Herald di banding harga market?
[ob] Re: Pemprov NTB Tolak BUMN Beli Saham Newmont
kalo ane sih yakin pasti jatuh ke tanggan bumi. penolakan itu cuma pura2 aja biar nga terlalu dibilang pemerintah sekarang meng-anak emaskan bakrie. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Peter Alimin milis...@... wrote: Mataram - Pemprov NTB keberatan dan menolak jika PT Aneka Tambang Tbk (Antam) membentuk konsorsium baru untuk pembelian 14% saham PT Newmont Nusa Tenggara (NNT) yang dilepas tahun 2008 dan 2009. Seperti yang dikabarkan, Antam membentuk konsorsium pembelian saham Newmont bersama PT Tambang Batubara Bukit Asam Tbk (PTBA) dan Pusat Investasi Pemerintah (PIP). Pemprov NTB menginginkan jika BUMN mau ikut merasakan kue divestasi Newmont, maka BUMN tersebut mesti bergabung dengan konsorsium bentukan pemerintah daerah bersama PT Multicapital, anak usaha Bumi Resources yang menjadi penyandang dana Pemda. `'Seluruh dunia sudah tahu, kalau pemerintah daerah memiliki hak atas saham yang didivestasikan Newmont. Tapi ketika kita mengadakan beauty contest , tak satupun BUMN mengajukan penawaran pada pemerintah daerah. Sekarang malah BUMN ini ingin ikut membeli. Selama ini BUMN kemana? Tidur?'' tandas HM Zainul Majdi, Gubernur NTB di Mataram, Sabtu (22/8/2009). Gubernur bertolak menuju Jakarta dan bakal menyampaikan surat pada manajemen Newmont Coprporation atas kesiapan untuk membeli 14 persen saham PT NNT yang dilepas tahun 2008 dan 2009. Pemerintah daerah menyatakan memiliki hak untuk membeli 14 persen saham Newmont itu bersama pemerintah pusat. Menurut Gubernur, tidak pernah dalam sejarah, pemerintah pusat turut serta membeli saham perusahaan asing dalam proses kewajiban divestasi. Itu pun ditunjukkan pemerintah pusat dengan menyerahkan hak pembelian 10 persen saham Newmont yang dilepas tahun 2006 dan 2007 pada pemerintah daerah. `'Kesepakatan kami dengan Multicapital, konsorsium pemerintah daerah siap membeli 31 persen saham Newmont yang didivestasikan hingga 2010. Jadi kalau ada BUMN yang berminat, mari bergabung dengan konsorsium ini,'' kata Gubernur. Ia menyatakan NTB hanya punya kesempatan memiliki saham pada divestasi Newmont ini. Sebab hanya Newmont perusahaan tambang raksasa yang beroperasi di NTB. Selain itu, kata Gubernur, kepemilikan saham yang utuh akan memberi manfaat lebih besar pada pemerintah daerah, ketimbang saham yang kepemilikannya terpisah. Sejauh ini, memang belum ada penunjukkan resmi dari Departemen Keuangan pada Antam untuk memimpin konsorsium membeli saham PT NNT. Namun sebelumnya, Dirjen Minerbapabum ESDM Bambang Setiawan mengisyaratkan, Antam akan ditunjuk sebagai lead konsorsium pemerintah pusat untuk masuk Newmont. Sebagai perusahaan tambang logam, Antam, dinilai lebih kompeten
Re: Bls: [ob] Centong BUMI
kiss is the king! --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, riil_inves...@... wrote: Kalau saya punya pendapat sbb : 1. Bandar tidak mau pusing2 mau centong kek, atau yg lain. Terlalu berbelit belit buat mereka! Lagian yg bisa memahami TA (kl ada teory centong) juga sangat terbatas. 2. Mereka pastinya lbh berfikir yg sederhana saja! Biasanya yg ada dipikan mereka cuma break new high, tembus support level atau resisten level! 3. Disitulah mereka memainkan kartunya, khan yg faham urusan poin 2 cukup banyak n teorynya juga simple! 4. Sering terjadi saat calon korban mulai melihat break new high, baru dibanting! Begitu sebaliknya! 5. Cara berfikir bandar tdk rumit rumit lah, yg bikin rumit kadang2 kita sendiri! 6. Org awam jg mumet mikirin/analisa centong segala! Kita ditertawain ama bandar bos! Percaya dah! Ha ha ha! Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Irwan Napitupulu irwannapitup...@... Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 23:56:48 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] Centong BUMI Secara keilmuan TA, setahu saya tidak mengenal istilah gambar centong yang seperti saya buatkan itu :) Dengan kata lain, saham BUMI masih dikuasai oleh bandarnya, sehingga dengan sesuka hatinya saja dia membuat gambar centong yang dia maui. Saya duga, bandar BUMI suka makan mie bakso kuah Gajah Mada, setidaknya mungkin dulu waktu SMA dia doyan. Dan sekarang lagi terkenang-kenang :) Secara kasarnya sih kira-kira begini, support BUMI ada di 2900. Kalau sampai tutup di bawah 2900, tanda-tanda tidak baik. Resistancenya ada di 3225. Kalau bisa sampai ditutup di atas 3225, berarti pertanda baik. Lalu, bagaimana kalau harga tutupnya masih berada di antara 2900-3225? Jawabannya hanya satu, trading range saja :) IAN 2009/8/22 Charles Atmaja charles_3...@... Bung Ian... maaf kalo pertanyaan saya terlalu culun... hehehe Kalau pola centong ini secara TA maksudnya indikasi apa ya? Thanks
[ob] [I CHING] Misi Last Wish Selesai......
tapi dengan hasil mengecewakan (akurasi hanya 50%) sbb: 1. BEI bertahan, hasil -49.878 poin, #185348, 18 Aug. (WRONG) 2. BUMI naik or tetap, hasil -50, #185356, 18 Aug. (WRONG) 3. BEI ijo, hasil -59 poin, #185691, 19 Aug. (WRONG) 4. BUMI turun, hasil -225, #185704, 19 Aug. 5. BEI ijo, hasil +50 poin, #186227, 20 Aug. 6. BUMI closing naik, hasil +100, #186231, 20 Aug. 7. BEI ijo, hasil +5 poin, #186645, 21 Aug. 8. BUMI naik, hasil -50, #186651, 21 Aug. (WRONG) Ini berarti ane harus banyak belajar lagi. Seperti ilmu lain, I ching tidak salah yang salah orang yg mengaplikasikannya. Hasil ini membuat ane penasaran dan ke depan akan mencobanya kembali dengan metode lain. Sekadar info, metode yg selama ini ane pakai adalah metode klasik (menginterpretasikan kalimat2 yg penuh metafora). metode ini cocok buat mereka yg senang dengan bacaan sastra. Metode lain adalah plum blossom - campuran instuisi dan angka. Ada juga metode na jia yg lebih di sukai Barat karena tidak diperlukan instuisi, secara ilmiah bisa dipertanggungjawabkan krn menggunakan perhitungan matematis murni. So, tunggu tanggal mainnya setelah forex dulu ya..he..he..he
[ob] [Mohon Bantuan] Kegunaan Kurva Lonceng or Distribusi Normal?
Para ahli TA/statistik, tanya donk : apa sih manfaat utama kurva lonceng di stock market or forex market? ane baru baca buku iching, ternyata di situ juga disebutkan digambarkan kurva lonceng dalam bentuk hexagram. Tks.
[ob] [Ask I Ching] Bgm BUMI hari Jumat ini? 21 Aug
I Ching answer : Yin (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) Yin (New) Yin (New) Yin (Old) The present is embodied in Hexagram 16 - Yu (Enthusiasm): In this state, feudal princes and other delegates may be set up, and the hosts put in motion, with advantage. The first (bottommost) line, divided, shows its subject proclaiming his pleasure and satisfaction. There will be evil. The situation is evolving slowly, and Yang (the active masculine force) is gaining ground. Yin (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) Yin (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) The future is embodied in Hexagram 51 - Chen (Shock): There is an intimation of ease and development. When the time of movement comes, the subject will be found looking out with apprehension, yet smiling and talking cheerfully. When the movement, like a crash of thunder, terrifies all within a hundred li, he will be like the sincere worshipper, who is not startled into letting go his ladle and cup of sacrificial spirits. The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the upper trigram Chen (Thunder), which represents movement, initiative, and action. The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the lower trigram K'un (Earth), which is transforming into Chen (Thunder). As part of this process, docility and receptivity are giving way to movement, initiative, and action. -- Interpretasi ane : BUMI naik. Disc. on.
[ob] [Ask I Ching] Bgm BEI hari Jumat ini? 21 Aug
I Ching answer : Yin (New) Yang (Old) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yin (Old) The present is embodied in Hexagram 28 - Ta Kuo (Preponderance of the Great): We see a beam that is weak. Under these conditions, there will be advantage in moving in any direction at all. There will be success. The first (bottommost) line, divided, shows one placing mats of the white mao grass under things set on the ground. There will be no error. The fifth line, undivided, shows a decayed willow producing flowers, or an old wife in possession of her young husband. There will be occasion neither for blame nor for praise. The situation is shifting, but neither Yin (the passive feminine force) nor Yang (the active masculine force) is gaining ground. Yin (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) The future is embodied in Hexagram 34 - Ta Chuang (The Power of the Great): It will be advantageous to be firm and correct. The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the upper trigram Tui (Lake), which is tansforming into Chen (Thunder). As part of this process, joy, pleasure, and attraction are giving way to movement, initiative, and action. The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the lower trigram Sun (Wind), which is transforming into Chi'en (Heaven). As part of this process, penetration and following are giving way to strength and creativity. -- Interpretasi ane : BEI ijo. Disc. on.
[ob] [Ask I Ching] Bgm BUMI hari Jumat ini? 21 Aug
I Ching answer : Yin (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) Yin (New) Yin (New) Yin (Old) The present is embodied in Hexagram 16 - Yu (Enthusiasm): In this state, feudal princes and other delegates may be set up, and the hosts put in motion, with advantage. The first (bottommost) line, divided, shows its subject proclaiming his pleasure and satisfaction. There will be evil. The situation is evolving slowly, and Yang (the active masculine force) is gaining ground. Yin (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) Yin (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) The future is embodied in Hexagram 51 - Chen (Shock): There is an intimation of ease and development. When the time of movement comes, the subject will be found looking out with apprehension, yet smiling and talking cheerfully. When the movement, like a crash of thunder, terrifies all within a hundred li, he will be like the sincere worshipper, who is not startled into letting go his ladle and cup of sacrificial spirits. The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the upper trigram Chen (Thunder), which represents movement, initiative, and action. The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the lower trigram K'un (Earth), which is transforming into Chen (Thunder). As part of this process, docility and receptivity are giving way to movement, initiative, and action. --- Interpretasi ane : BUMI naik. Disc. on.
Re: Bls: [ob] Tanpa Judul (temu darat Obers)
baiknya mbah tetap 'misterius' aja, biar tambah penasaran..he..he.. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, artomoro9 artomo...@... wrote: temu darat di fasilitasi oleh SUHU Bang Ian. tuh SUHUnya ngajakin ketemuan. Gak enak dong Mbah sama SUHU... hahaha... OBers komporin lagi dong www.kompormledug.com regards, A9 Sent from my Heart® Powered by REPUBLIK INDONESIA RAYA di atas langit masih ada langit.MERDEKAA...! --- Pada Jum, 21/8/09, Irwan Napitupulu irwannapitup...@... menulis: Dari: Irwan Napitupulu irwannapitup...@... Judul: [ob] Tanpa Judul Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Jumat, 21 Agustus, 2009, 12:12 AM Terima kasih untuk mbah dan OBers atas penerimaannya yang hangat. Karena saya bingung mau bikin judl apa sebagai subyek, jadi terpaksa pakai judul Tanpa Judul saja ya. Walau sudah dijelaskan oleh mbah bahwa pemilik email irwannapitupulu@ gmail..com orangnya sama dengan pemilik email irwanariston@ gmail.com, tidak ada salahnya saya berikan penjelasan dan penegasan bahwa yang dinyatakan oleh mbah adalah benar. Mbah tentu bisa mengetahui secara persis tanggal berapa saya merubah keanggotaan email saya di milis ini dari irwanariston@ gmail.com menjadi irwannapitupulu@ gmail.com. Saya yakin mbah sudah mengeceknya. Ngga hanya saham saja yang dianalisa oleh mbah khan? :) Beberapa minggu ini saya terpikirkan tentang Indonesia kalau mau cepat maju, maka para tokoh dan elemen bangsanya perlu bersatu untuk duduk bersama merumuskan kembali cetak biru (bukan film biru lho ya) arah pembangunan jangka panjang Indonesia. Entah kenapa, 2-3 hari ini saya tiba-tiba terlintas hal yang serupa tapi untuk dunia saham/investasi. Bakalan cepat maju juga saya pikir nantinya dunia investasi kita. Bahkan, kalau perlu nantinya dikembangkan bukan hanya pasar modal Indonesia saja yang digarap, supaya kita tidak hanya jadi jago kandang, tapi juga mulai merambah pasar modal negara lain (bakalan pada ngga tidur 24 jam non stop deh tuh hehehe... ). Lumayan khan kalau bisa ngutak ngatik pasar modal Thailand dan India, misalnya :) Dunia investasi sudah semakin mengglobal. Para hackers IT saja bisa bersatu, masa para trader saham Indonesia ngga bisa bersatu ngobrak ngabrik pasar modal negara lain? :) Kira-kira itu garis besarnya dari saya. Oh ya, dari banyak orang yang saya temui (temu darat), pada intinya saya mendapat kesan yang sama, banyak yang ingin ketemu muka dengan mbah termasuk saya. Semoga, mbah suatu saat bersedia temu darat sekedar minum teh dan makan coklat bareng. Saya yakin banyak OBers disini yang juga berpikiran hal yang sama khan? :) Kepada para OBers lainnya, milis ini seperti namanya adalah milis obrolan bandar, tentunya saya yang harus banyak mendengar dan belajar di milis ini dari kawan-kawan senior yang aktif di OBers. Mohon ijin untuk berguru di milis ini dan tanya-tanya kalau ada yang saya kurang paham. catatan: saya sengaja tidak pakai penutup email jabat erat dan nama lengkap di akhir tulisan di milis OBers seperti yang saya lakukan di milis saham demi menyesuaikan diri dengan milis OB, dan sekalian bisa lebih santai dan lepas bila suatu waktu ingin iseng komentar/nulis :) IAN Yahoo! Mail Kini Lebih Cepat dan Lebih Bersih. Rasakan bedanya sekarang! http://id.mail.yahoo.com
[ob] Re: Ask ICHING, Bgm BEI hingga akhir tahun 2009?
apakah ini koreksi yang di nanti-nanti? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Spiderman nadya...@... wrote: Bisa lebih diperjelas boss? Misal : Tgl 18 : naik Tgl 20 : naik Tgl 21 : turun Tgl 22 : turun Iching emang o ye... Sent from my  StrawBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat BEJ -Original Message- From: ichingprediction iching_predict...@... Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 00:00:35 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Re: Ask ICHING, Bgm BEI hingga akhir tahun 2009? hexagram 33 (retreat) dalam hal timing merujuk tgl 16-21 aug (satu hexagram mewakili 6 hari waktu kita). apakah ini menunjukkan koreksi bei akan dimulai? who knows, just be prepared. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ichingprediction wimanto_tr@ wrote: Hexagran 25.1.3 the unexpected-- 33 retreat. Analisa ane: bei naik pd awalnya namun ada masalah tak terduga membuat bei bearish pd akhirnya. Ini mengkonfirmasi rekomen el en ane akhirnya ngikut saran el. Stay out before too late! Disc. On tentunya. + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
[ob] [Ask I Ching] Bgm BEI hari Kamis ini? 20 Aug
I Ching answer : Yang (Old) Yin (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) The present is embodied in Hexagram 30 - Li (Fire): It will be advantageous to be firm and correct, and in doing so there will be a free course and success. Let him also nourish a docility like that of the cow, and there will be good fortune. The topmost line, undivided, shows the king employing its subject in his punitive expeditions. Achieving admirable merit, he breaks only the chiefs of the rebels. Where his prisoners were not their associates, he does not punish. There will be no error. The situation is evolving slowly, and Yin (the passive feminine force) is gaining ground. Yin (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) The future is embodied in Hexagram 55 - Feng (Abundance): Progress and development is intimated. When a king has reached the point of abundance, there is no occasion to be anxious through fear of a change. Let him be as the sun at noon. The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the upper trigram Li (Fire), which is tansforming into Chen (Thunder). As part of this process, brightness and warmth are giving way to movement, initiative, and action. The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the lower trigram Li (Fire), which represents brightness and warmth. --- Interpretasi ane : BEI ijo. Disc. on.
[ob] [Ask I Ching] Bgm BUMI hari Kamis ini? 20 Aug
I Ching answer : Yang (New) Yin (New) Yin (Old) Yin (New) Yin (New) Yin (New) The present is embodied in Hexagram 23 - Po (Splitting Apart): It will not be advantageous to move in any direction whatever. The fourth line, divided, shows its subject having overthrown the couch, and going to injure the skin of him who lies on it. There will be evil. The situation is evolving slowly, and Yang (the active masculine force) is gaining ground. Yang (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) Yin (New) Yin (New) Yin (New) The future is embodied in Hexagram 35 - Chin (Progress): We see a prince who secures the tranquility of the people, and is presented on that account with numerous horses by the king. Three times in a day he is received at interviews. The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the upper trigram Ken (Mountain), which is tansforming into Li (Fire). As part of this process, stillness and obstruction are giving way to brightness and warmth. The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the lower trigram K'un (Earth), which represents docility and receptivity. Interpretasi ane : BUMI awal turun, kemudian membaik (closing naik?) Disc. on.
[ob] [Ask I Ching] Bgm BEI hari Rabu ini? 19 Aug
I Ching answer : Yin (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yang (Old) Yin (New) The present is embodied in Hexagram 28 - Ta Kuo (Preponderance of the Great): We see a beam that is weak. Under these conditions, there will be advantage in moving in any direction at all. There will be success. The second line, undivided, shows a decayed willow producing shoots, or an old husband in possession of his young wife. There will be advantage in every way. The situation is evolving slowly, and Yin (the passive feminine force) is gaining ground. Yin (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yin (New) Yin (New) The future is embodied in Hexagram 31 - Hsien (Influence): On the fulfillment of the conditions implied here, there will be a free course and success. Its advantage will depend on being firm and correct, as in marrying a young lady. There will be good fortune. [Image] The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the upper trigram Tui (Lake), which represents joy, pleasure, and attraction. [Image] The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the lower trigram Sun (Wind), which is transforming into Ken (Mountain). As part of this process, penetration and following are giving way to stillness and obstruction. - Interpretasi ane : BEI ijo.
[ob] [Ask I Ching] Bgm BUMI hari Rabu ini? 19 Aug
I Ching answer : Yang (Old) Yang (New) Yang (Old) Yin (Old) Yin (New) Yin (New) The present is embodied in Hexagram 12 - P'I (Stagnation): There is a lack of understanding between the different classes of men, and its indication is unfavorable to the firm and correct course of the superior man. We see in it greatness gone and the lesser come upon us. The third line, divided, shows its subject ashamed of the purpose folded in his breast. The fourth line, undivided, shows its subject acting in accordance with the ordination of Heaven, and committing no error. His companions will come and share in his happiness. The sixth line, undivided, shows the overthrow and removal of the condition of distress and obstruction. Before this there was that condition. Hereafter there will joy. The situation is shifting, and Yin (the passive feminine force) is gaining ground. Yin (New) Yang (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) Yin (New) Yin (New) The future is embodied in Hexagram 39 - Chien (Obstruction): Advantage will be found in the southwest, and the contrary in the northeast. It will be advantageous to meet with the great man. With firmness and correctness, there will be good fortune. [Image] The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the upper trigram Chi'en (Heaven), which is tansforming into K'an (Water). As part of this process, strength and creativity are giving way to danger and the unknown. [Image] The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the lower trigram K'un (Earth), which is transforming into Ken (Mountain). As part of this process, docility and receptivity are giving way to stillness and obstruction. --- Interpretasi ane : BUMI turun. PS : Hexagram 39 (Obstruction : halangan sementara) pernah juga muncul pada prediksi BNBR (#182110) dengan hasil BNBR naik. Disc. on.
Re: [ob] Hoki Te It
ada sesuatu yg campur aduk dan kacau balau, ia sudah ada sebelum langit dan bumi betapa sunyi, betapa sepi, ia berada sendirian dan tak pernah berubah, bergerak berputar, tiada henti, ia layak menjadi ibu alam semesta, ku tak tahu siapa namanya, terpaksa kenamakan dao, kusebut dia sbg yang besar --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote: Filosofi Percayalah, semua sdh diaturNYA tidak berarti kita ENGGA USAH BEKERJA dan ENGGA USAH BERDOA... Kepasrahan, ketulusan, kecintaan dan penyerahan diri secara total kepada Tuhan janganlah diartikan secara DANGKAL bahwa nasib kita tidak dipengaruhi oleh USAHA manusia. Embah melihat tulisan tulisan pak SB TIDAK menggambarkan secara SEIMBANG antara peranan USAHA MANUSIA, NASIB dan TAKDIR yg ditentukan Tuhan buat kita. Pak SB terlalu menekankan unsur KEBERUNTUNGAN dan meremehkan unsur USAHA MANUSIA menggunakan akal budi yg dikaruniakan Tuhan kepada kita. Karunia kekayaan dan keberuntungan yg diberikan Tuhan kepada seseorang seperti kepada Pak SB merupakan Keadilan Tuhan yg harus disyukuri. Tuhan itu Maha adil, Tuhan memberikan keberuntungan pada si A, Tuhan memberikan kepintaran pada si B, Tuhan memberikan kecantikan pada si D, Tuhan memberi umur panjang kepada si E, Tuhan memberikan air mata sukacita bagi yg susah, Tuhan bahkan memberikan Yesus Kristus untuk disalib. Keadilan Tuhan kadang susah dimengerti oleh kita. Hanya yg percaya bahwa Tuhan Maha Adil saja yg akan melihat keadilan yg Tuhan buat untuk kita semua. Apakah bisa menang main saham tanpa mikir adalah suatu Karunia Tuhan untuk Pak SB ?. Jawabannya tidak usah diposting kemilis karena Karunia Tuhan bukanlah sesuatu untuk disombongkan..
[ob] [Ask I Ching] Bgm BEI selasa 18 Aug?
I Ching answer : Yin (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) Yang (Old) Yang (New) Yin (Old) The present is embodied in Hexagram 32 - Heng (Duration): Successful progress and no error is indicated, but the advantage will come from being firm and correct. Any movement in any direction whatever will be advantageous. The first (bottommost) line, divided, shows its subject deeply desirous of long continuance. Even with firm correctness there will be evil; there will be no advantage in any way. The third line, undivided, shows one who does not continuously maintain his virtue. There are those who will impute this to him as a disgrace. However firm he may be, there will be ground for regret. The situation is shifting, but neither Yin (the passive feminine force) nor Yang (the active masculine force) is gaining ground. Yin (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) The future is embodied in Hexagram 54 - Kuei Mei (The Marrying Maiden): The action will be evil, and in no way advantageous. The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the upper trigram Chen (Thunder), which represents movement, initiative, and action. The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the lower trigram Sun (Wind), which is transforming into Tui (Lake). As part of this process, penetration and following are giving way to joy, pleasure, and attraction. --- Interpretasi ane : BEI bertahan dgn potensi naik/turun dikit. Disc. on.
[ob] [Ask I Ching] Bgm BUMI hari Selasa ini? 18 Aug
I Ching answer : Yang (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) Yin (Old) Yang (Old) Yang (Old) The present is embodied in Hexagram 38 - K'uei (Opposition): Notwithstanding the presence of opposition, in small matters there will still be success. The first (bottommost) line, undivided, shows that occasion for repentance will disappear. He has lost his horses, but let him not seek for them - they will return of themselves. Should he meet with bad men, he will not err in communicating with them. The second line, undivided, shows its subject happening to meet with his lord in a bye-passage. There will be no error. In the third line, divided, we see one whose carriage is dragged back, while the oxen in it are pushed back, and he is himself subjected to the shaving of his head and the cutting off of his nose. There is no good beginning, but there will be a good end. The situation is shifting, and Yin (the passive feminine force) is gaining ground. Yang (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yin (New) Yin (New) The future is embodied in Hexagram 56 - Lu (The Wanderer): There may be some little attainment and progress. If the stranger or traveler be firm and correct as he ought to be, there will be good fortune. The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the upper trigram Li (Fire), which represents brightness and warmth. The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the lower trigram Tui (Lake), which is transforming into Ken (Mountain). As part of this process, joy, pleasure, and attraction are giving way to stillness and obstruction. --- Interpretasi ane : Bumi awal turun, closing naik or tetap. Disc. on.
[ob] [Ask I Ching] ada apa dg PGAS, kok harganya jalan ditempat saat ini? 16 aug
Hex. 53 (Gradual Progress) to hex. 52 (Keep Still). Jawaban iching ini agak membingungkan krn terkesan kontradiktif antara hex pertama dg hex ke dua. Ada 2 interpretasi yg bisa ditarik yaitu : 1. Pgas memang jalan ditempat dgn kemungkinan akan tetap jalan ditempat kedepannya. 2. Pgas segera main (kapan?) dgn kenaikan yg cukup lumayan. Ane cenderung pilih poin 2. Disc.on
Re: [ob] Selamat Ulang Tahun....
hepi birday jendral! btw, ane lewat daerah cempaka putih ada liat 'mie ayam artomoro' jgn2 punya jendral...he..he --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, zaka...@... wrote: Met ultah jendral besar .. Yg berjiwa besar , berbadan besar dan ber.. Besar.. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: sempri...@... Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:08:46 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Selamat Ulang Tahun Happy birthday General!! Merdeka. Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: ueno_kobayashi ueno_kobaya...@... Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:04:30 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Selamat Ulang Tahun Selamat Ulang Tahun utk : HUT Kemerdekaan NKRI tgl 17-08-2009... dan HUT MR Jendral Arto MOro tgl 17-08-2009. Semoga Membawa Berkah Utk NKRI tercinta... Semoga Membawa Berkah Utk Sang Jendral Arto Moro... Semoga Membawa berkah juga utk pasar Saham kita... Semoga Membawa berkah utk Kita semua... Semoga pula dihari yg penuh dgn luapan kegembiraan ini Sang Jendral Arto atau lebih Keren Jendral A 9... berkenan memberkahi dan memberi oleh 2 utk kita semua... Khususnya Mulai hari selasa tgl 18-08-2009 dan selama 3 hari berturut turut ... menarik Indek setinggi tinggi nya... Nah...kira2 emiten apa aja nich jendral Arto Yang mau digilir utk di tarik keatas..??? jadi lengkap pesta HUT kemerdekaan NKRI dan Hut Jendral A9.. Semoga Sang Jendral A9 dan Bozz mengabulkan.. Terima kasih... Salam Kobayashi.
Re: [ob] Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + humble
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, hepisaham hepisa...@... wrote: Dear, My name is hepi and I am an idiot trader, a trader dog though..hehehehe. My career just stuck in the bottom as a newbie asistance. Fortunately, my Portos are growing significantly since I am a stupid swinger, I don't have to consider any news and any recommendation spread out widely of whether in or out of OB (it is to grab your fear and to pump your greed) coz I couldn't understand those properly. I don't have a right to recommend public to buy or sell stock coz my capacity is very less. Smart and brilliant trader won't follow me, apalagi yg masuk club sejati itu. Mereka trader-trader hebat. Bagi hepi utk bisa masuk ke club tersebut perlu waktu 100 tahun kali ya, semoga 100 tahun ke depan ob masih ada dan hepi bisa nglamar. Hehehe. Pesan buat om Arto : tolong jangan suka ngerjain trader yg di club sejati lagi ya, awas..kalo terulang lagi seperti kemarin. kindly regards. hepisaham *simple and stress free trading style* -Original Message- From: Jacob Oen oenja...@... Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 00:47:08 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + met ultah om ARTO Agree!!! EL is much more convincing, much more compelling and much clearer (meskipun belum tentu akurat, but it's ok). Tetapi yang satu (menurut newbie) just creating more confusing, unclear, always play in grey area and hiding( but it's OK, she has a right to do so, NO COMPLAINT). Hehehe.. Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [When the heart is good, everything else is good.] -Original Message- From: VF ⢠vnnfortuna...@... Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 00:30:27 To: Obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + met ultah om ARTO Jago dua-duanya ??? Kl elaine jelaslah... Search aja posting2 dia yg dulu2, itu buktinya.. Kl hepi, gw seh kaga pernah liat ada posting rekomendasi sama sekali disini.. Yg ada jend arto muji2 terus hepi.. Tp blm terbukti disini, kl kata mbah blm jd sejati club.. Heheeehhee.. Komporin.ah.. Just kidding sis.. - VF - -Original Message- From: Febry febry.hariyannugr...@... Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:56:27 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + met ultah om ARTO As far as I know, Hepi itu ce' sama kayak El. Dua2nya jago2... Pendapat pribadi, likely Hepi ngk akan ngasih clue. Kecuali jadi clientnya beliau. CMIIW Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2009, at 11:45, Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote: I asked him for hint but he didn't answer. I asked him what to short, he didn't give any answer. I give him a hint, and he returned the question back. Mastermind my ass. Yea perhaps he's good, but I dunno. Elaine 2009/8/16 artomoro9 artomo...@... Sepanjang yang saya pahami hepisaham tahu apa yang harus dia lakukan tanpa dikasi hint sekalipun, karena ada bisikan khusus dari the master mind of BEI who maintain market sustainability. Ayo hepi ngaku aja..lol regards, A9 Powered by REPUBLIK INDONESIA RAYA di atas langit masih ada langit.MERDEKAA...! --- Pada Ming, 16/8/09, Elaine Sui elainesu...@... menulis: Dari: Elaine Sui elainesu...@... Judul: Re: [ob] Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + met ultah om ARTO Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Minggu, 16 Agustus, 2009, 11:05 PM lolz.. Elaine 2009/8/16 hepisaham hepisa...@gmail. com Could u be more specific which stocks? since I dunot buy and sell sectors. kindly regards. hepisaham *simple and stress free trading style* From: Elaine Sui Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 22:54:29 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [ob] Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + met ultah om ARTO Ok, seems you don't have any idea. I'll give you a hint: short financials, consumers and telecomms, switch (buy on weakness) to metals, construction, cement and plantation. What do you think? Elaine 2009/8/16 Elaine Sui elainesui83@ gmail.com Which one is good for short? Elaine 2009/8/16 hepisaham hepisa...@gmail. com Any stocks that u r gonna short my dear sis Elaine.. heheheehehe. kindly regards. hepisaham *simple and stress free trading style* From: Elaine Sui Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 22:10:45 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [ob] Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + met ultah om ARTO Could you be more specific, dear? Which stocks are you going to buy? Elaine 2009/8/16 hepisaham hepisa...@gmail. com Menarik sekali illustrasinya bro, hanya saja agak ragu
Re: [ob] Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + humble
yang merasa tahu tidaklah luas pengetahuannya, yg luas pengetahuannya tidaklah merasa tahu - laozi- --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ichingprediction iching_predict...@... wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, hepisaham hepisaham@ wrote: Dear, My name is hepi and I am an idiot trader, a trader dog though..hehehehe. My career just stuck in the bottom as a newbie asistance. Fortunately, my Portos are growing significantly since I am a stupid swinger, I don't have to consider any news and any recommendation spread out widely of whether in or out of OB (it is to grab your fear and to pump your greed) coz I couldn't understand those properly. I don't have a right to recommend public to buy or sell stock coz my capacity is very less. Smart and brilliant trader won't follow me, apalagi yg masuk club sejati itu. Mereka trader-trader hebat. Bagi hepi utk bisa masuk ke club tersebut perlu waktu 100 tahun kali ya, semoga 100 tahun ke depan ob masih ada dan hepi bisa nglamar. Hehehe. Pesan buat om Arto : tolong jangan suka ngerjain trader yg di club sejati lagi ya, awas..kalo terulang lagi seperti kemarin. kindly regards. hepisaham *simple and stress free trading style* -Original Message- From: Jacob Oen oenjacob@ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 00:47:08 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + met ultah om ARTO Agree!!! EL is much more convincing, much more compelling and much clearer (meskipun belum tentu akurat, but it's ok). Tetapi yang satu (menurut newbie) just creating more confusing, unclear, always play in grey area and hiding( but it's OK, she has a right to do so, NO COMPLAINT). Hehehe.. Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [When the heart is good, everything else is good.] -Original Message- From: VF ⢠vnnfortunatus@ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 00:30:27 To: Obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + met ultah om ARTO As far as I know, Hepi itu ce' sama kayak El. Dua2nya jago2... Pendapat pribadi, likely Hepi ngk akan ngasih clue. Kecuali jadi clientnya beliau. CMIIW Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2009, at 11:45, Elaine Sui elainesui83@ wrote: I asked him for hint but he didn't answer. I asked him what to short, he didn't give any answer. I give him a hint, and he returned the question back. Mastermind my ass. Yea perhaps he's good, but I dunno. Elaine 2009/8/16 artomoro9 artomoro9@ Sepanjang yang saya pahami hepisaham tahu apa yang harus dia lakukan tanpa dikasi hint sekalipun, karena ada bisikan khusus dari the master mind of BEI who maintain market sustainability. Ayo hepi ngaku aja..lol regards, A9 Powered by REPUBLIK INDONESIA RAYA di atas langit masih ada langit.MERDEKAA...! --- Pada Ming, 16/8/09, Elaine Sui elainesui83@ menulis: Dari: Elaine Sui elainesui83@ Judul: Re: [ob] Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + met ultah o
[ob] Re: IHSG BUBBLE ???
sip dah kalo prof udah ngomong. bei 2500 oke donk prof aug ini. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JT jsxtra...@... wrote: Belakangan saya mulai sering dengar komentar-komentar bahwa IHSG Sudah OVERHEAT.., BUBBLE.., READY TO CRASH., OPTIMISME SDH BERLEBIHAN, dan berbagai komentar PESIMIS lainnya.. Tahukah anda bahwa IHSG pernah Rally selama 6 TAHUN lebih dengan koreksi disana-sini., tahukan anda bahwa rally yg kita alami belakangan ini BARU berjalan 9 BULAN.., coba perhatikan pergerakan harga pada chart dibawah. Tahukan anda bahwa masih banyak sekali saham2 yg bahkan belum mencapai setengah dari harga tertingginya.., tahukan anda bahwa IHSG masih 400 point lagi untuk bisa mencapa highestnya., tahukan anda Bahwa DOW yg sedikit banyak berpengaruh terhadap sentiment, baru saja memulai trend bullishnya.., tahukah anda bahwa harga minyak, coal, metal, CPO dll saat ini masih jauh sekali dari highestnya.. Ada yg bilang SEJARAH PASTI TERULANG., betul.., tapi JANGAN LUPA dalam sejarah bukan Cuma ada CRASH.., tapi juga ada THE GREAT BULLISH PERIODE EVER.., kenapa kalau bicara sejarah, yg di Refer Cuma CRASH-nya doang., how about the bullish-nya., hehehe Jadi saya bertanya apa sih yg bikin banyak PAKAR begitu gusar ??.., apa iya IHSG kita sdh overheat ? bukan kah ada koreksi disana sini yg berfungsi sebagai 'pendingin' ., Bubble? Bukankah beberapa kali balon sdh 'dikempesin' dengan berbagai koreksi ?... ( karenanya Koreksi sangat wajar, dan justru DIBUTUHKAN agar IHSG tetap sehat.. ) jadi kalo kate si EL., Bubble My Ass !! ., hehehe Let's Keep the Spirit Alive.., M E R D E K A !! JT ihsg weekly.png
Re: Bls: Bls: [ob] Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + Last wish to I Ching
ane condong ke el, oil ke depan turun. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote: *Well didn't I post it before? Goldman Sachs said 85, I said it may decline to 35 at worst, because of deflation effect. But I dunno, maybe GS knows something..? They're indeed the biggest oil futures player. It also depends on the strength of the USD, and the CFTC policies against speculators. Elaine* On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Charles Atmaja charles_3...@...wrote: EL, do you have a target for oil price at the end of this year? If you have, please share your predisction to us Thanks -- *Dari:* Elaine Sui elainesu...@... *Kepada:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Terkirim:* Sabtu, 15 Agustus, 2009 21:07:36 *Judul:* Re: Bls: [ob] Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + Last wish to I Ching *Asia markets are decoupling with US. Buy on weakness, you noob. Elaine** * On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:18 PM, ELLIOT penta...@yahoo. co.idpenta...@... wrote: Mane theory decouplingnya? ?? Kemaren optimize banget .buy buybuy. target 29xx akhir dec Skrg??? Hahaha DJI baru -0.82% Masa uda pesimis BULL OR BEAR UP TO YOU lah Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -- *From*: Elaine Sui *Date*: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:01:47 +0700 *To*: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: Bls: [ob] Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + Last wish to I Ching *I wrote on my wall, that whatever I recommend, either bull or bear, there is always ppl who support me. If I say bull, they say they believe me.
Re: Bls: Bls: [ob] Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + Last wish to I Ching
akhir tahun 2009. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, paramanand...@... wrote: Time frame.. Time frame..Time frame.. Please.. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: ichingprediction iching_predict...@... Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:12:53 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Bls: Bls: [ob] Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + Last wish to I Ching ane condong ke el, oil ke depan turun. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui elainesui83@ wrote: *Well didn't I post it before? Goldman Sachs said 85, I said it may decline to 35 at worst, because of deflation effect. But I dunno, maybe GS knows something..? They're indeed the biggest oil futures player. It also depends on the strength of the USD, and the CFTC policies against speculators. Elaine* On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Charles Atmaja charles_3983@wrote: EL, do you have a target for oil price at the end of this year? If you have, please share your predisction to us Thanks -- *Dari:* Elaine Sui elainesui83@ *Kepada:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Terkirim:* Sabtu, 15 Agustus, 2009 21:07:36 *Judul:* Re: Bls: [ob] Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + Last wish to I Ching *Asia markets are decoupling with US. Buy on weakness, you noob. Elaine** * On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:18 PM, ELLIOT penta...@yahoo. co.idpentafmg@ wrote: Mane theory decouplingnya? ?? Kemaren optimize banget .buy buybuy. target 29xx akhir dec Skrg??? Hahaha DJI baru -0.82% Masa uda pesimis BULL OR BEAR UP TO YOU lah Sent from my BlackBerry
[ob] Re: Ask ICHING, Bgm BEI hingga akhir tahun 2009?
hexagram 33 (retreat) dalam hal timing merujuk tgl 16-21 aug (satu hexagram mewakili 6 hari waktu kita). apakah ini menunjukkan koreksi bei akan dimulai? who knows, just be prepared. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ichingprediction wimanto...@... wrote: Hexagran 25.1.3 the unexpected-- 33 retreat. Analisa ane: bei naik pd awalnya namun ada masalah tak terduga membuat bei bearish pd akhirnya. Ini mengkonfirmasi rekomen el en ane akhirnya ngikut saran el. Stay out before too late! Disc. On tentunya.
[ob] Re: [Ask I Ching] Bgm BNBR hari Jumat ini? 14 Aug
For the record only : 137-138 = -1 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ichingprediction iching_predict...@... wrote: I Ching answer : Yin (New) Yang (Old) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) The present is embodied in Hexagram 43 - Kuai (Resolve): It is required that the culprit's guilt be exhibited in the royal court, along with a sincere and earnest appeal for sympathy and support, with consciousness of the peril involved in cutting off the criminal. He should also make announcement in his own city, and show that it will not be well to have recourse at once to arms. In this way there will be advantage in whatever he shall go forward to. The fifth line, undivided, shows the small men like a bed of purslain, which ought to be uprooted with the utmost determination. The subject of the line having such determination, his action, in harmony with his central position, will lead to no error or blame. The situation is evolving slowly, and Yin (the passive feminine force) is gaining ground. Yin (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) The future is embodied in Hexagram 34 - Ta Chuang (The Power of the Great): It will be advantageous to be firm and correct. The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the upper trigram Tui (Lake), which is tansforming into Chen (Thunder). As part of this process, joy, pleasure, and attraction are giving way to movement, initiative, and action. The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the lower trigram Chi'en (Heaven), which represents strength and creativity Interpretasi ane : BNBR naik. Disc.on.
[ob] [I CHING] Misi Selesai.
Misi utama : --- Memperkenalkan I Ching sebagai salah satu alternatif prediksi saham dengan target 1 bulan. (Hasil : Cukup lumayan dgn response cukup termasuk beberapa email yg masuk ke japri) Misi Pribadi : Mencapai akurasi min. 90% (Hasil : Gagal, hanya 79%), dari 24 prediksi hanya benar 19 (correct me if I'm wrong). Lihat detail di bawah. Misi Selanjutnya : Mencoba prediksi forex dengan I Ching. Summary of I Ching Prediction from 10 July to 14 Aug --- A. Prediksi2 terjawab : --- 01. BUMI tetap or turun dikit, hasil -75, #174212, 10 July. 02. BEI turun dikit, hasil -11.6 poin, #176372, 18 July. 03. BUMI naik, hasil +150, #177194, 21 July. 04. BUMI turun, hasil -25, #177458, 22 July. 05. BUMI tetap or naik turun dikit, hasil +25, #177805, 23 July. 06. BUMI turun, hasil tetap, #178188, 24 July (WRONG) 07. BUMI naik, hasil +125, #178910, 28 July. 08. BUMI naik, hasil +75, #178642, 27 July. 09. BUMI naik, hasil +225, #179596, 30 July. 10. INCO naik, hasil +125, #179950, 31 July. 11. BUMI naik, hasil +375, #180052, 31 July. 12. Apa OK beli BUMI di 2850, hasil turun, #180131, 31 July (WRONG) 13. PGAS naik, hasil +50, #180847, 03 Aug. 14. PGAS turun, hasil -25, #181280, 04 Aug. 15. BEI naik, hasil +42 poin, #182115, 04 Aug. 16. BUMI naik, hasil -25, #181739, 05 Aug (WRONG) 17. BNBR turun, hasil +11, #182110, 06 Aug. 18. BUMI turun, hasil -25, #182608, 07 Aug. 19. BUMI naik, hasil +225, #183123, 10 Aug. 20. BEI ijo, hasil +9.7 poin, #183359, 11 Aug. 21. BUMI turun, hasil -175, #183655, 12 Aug. 22. PGAS naik, hasil +50, #184114, 13 Aug. 23. BUMI turun, hasil +250, #184118, 13 Aug (WRONG) 24. BNBR naik, hasil -1, #184563, 14 Aug (WRONG) - B. Prediksi2 belum terjawab : - 01. Bgm BEI hingga akhir tahun 2009? #176949, 19 July. BEI as at 17 July = 2106.35 Prediksi : naik dulu baru turun. Hasil : belum terjawab, BEI as at 14 Aug = 2386.86 02. Bgm BEI bulan Aug ini? #180513, 01 Aug. BEI as at 31 July = 2323.24 Prediksi : BEI masih ok/ijo. Hasil : belum terjawab, BEI as at 14 Aug = 2386.86 03. Bgm BNBR hingga akhir tahun 2009? #179743, 30 July. BNBR as at 30 July = 95 Prediksi : Prospek BNBR hingga akhir 2009 BAGUS SEKALI. Hasil : belum terjawab, BNBR as at 14 Aug = 137. = Bgm selanjutnya : = Ane tetap sesekali posting prediksi di OB namun tidak tiap hari seperti sebelumnya, mulai senen akan konsentrasi belajar prediksi forex dan melanjutkan belajar I Ching dengan membeli buku2 I CHING di Amazon dari hasil cuan prediksi saham selama ini. Good luck all, Carpe Diem.
Re: [ob] [I CHING] Misi Selesai.
Lho kata sapa ane ninggalin ob? Ane khan newbie di sini. Yg ane maksud dgn misi selesai yaitu ane nga lagi posting prediksi saham tiap hari krn ane mo nyoba prediksi iching di forex dulu (cuannya lebih cepet kali ye..he..he..). Lagipula ane rasa prediksi saham daily lebih susah, terbukti beberapa hari ini ane salah terus. Ke depan ane tetap posting kok di ob, cuma nga tiap hari. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tommy_ya...@... wrote: Dalam dunia ini gak ada yg abadi (silih berganti: ada yg datang ada yg pergi) , yg abadi hanya perubahan itu sendiri. Hidup gak bisa di paksakan , gak akan bagus hasilnya kalau maksa ( I ching punya alasan sendiri buat keputusan tersebut) n tapi salam hormat yg dalam buat Iching dgn apa yg telah di berikan ke milis OB . OB gak akan asal-asalan , karena masih banyak org yg mau berbagi n berkarya Buat OB . Maaf kalau I salah bicara , Newbie yg mau berbagi n belajar untuk selalu lebih baik besok nya Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: stock.bree...@... Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 03:56:17 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] [I CHING] Misi Selesai. ASAL-ASALAN.. -Original Message- From: Candra Wu wu_can...@... Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 03:03:40 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] [I CHING] Misi Selesai. Wah, kalo I Ching akan tinggalin OB. Berarti orang2 yang diandalkan yang memberi petunjuk akan berkurang dong. Kalo ini terus terjadi lama2 OB akan jadi milis yang tidak jelas dan akhirnya pada ngomongin yang ngak-ngak dan asal-asalan. Jd gimana dong nabib OB kedepan? Huuh... -Original Message- From: ichingprediction iching_predict...@... Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 01:50:42 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] [I CHING] Misi Selesai. Misi utama : --- Memperkenalkan I Ching sebagai salah satu alternatif prediksi saham dengan target 1 bulan. (Hasil : Cukup lumayan dgn response cukup termasuk beberapa email yg masuk ke japri) Misi Pribadi : Mencapai akurasi min. 90% (Hasil : Gagal, hanya 79%), dari 24 prediksi hanya benar 19 (correct me if I'm wrong). Lihat detail di bawah. Misi Selanjutnya : Mencoba prediksi forex dengan I Ching. Summary of I Ching Prediction from 10 July to 14 Aug --- A. Prediksi2 terjawab : --- 01. BUMI tetap or turun dikit, hasil -75, #174212, 10 July. 02. BEI turun dikit, hasil -11.6 poin, #176372, 18 July. 03. BUMI naik, hasil +150, #177194, 21 July. 04. BUMI turun, hasil -25, #177458, 22 July. 05. BUMI tetap or naik turun dikit, hasil +25, #177805, 23 July. 06. BUMI turun, hasil tetap, #178188, 24 July (WRONG) 07. BUMI naik, hasil +125, #178910, 28 July. 08. BUMI naik, hasil +75, #178642, 27 July. 09. BUMI naik, hasil +225, #179596, 30 July. 10. INCO naik, hasil +125, #179950, 31 July. 11. BUMI naik, hasil +375, #180052, 31 July. 12. Apa OK beli BUMI di 2850, hasil turun, #180131, 31 July (WRONG) 13. PGAS naik, hasil +50, #180847, 03 Aug. 14. PGAS turun, hasil -25, #181280, 04 Aug. 15. BEI naik, hasil +42 poin, #182115, 04 Aug. 16. BUMI naik, hasil -25, #181739, 05 Aug (WRONG) 17. BNBR turun, hasil +11, #182110, 06 Aug. 18. BUMI turun, hasil -25, #182608, 07 Aug. 19. BUMI naik, hasil +225, #183123, 10 Aug. 20. BEI ijo, hasil +9.7 poin, #183359, 11 Aug. 21. BUMI turun, hasil -175, #183655, 12 Aug. 22. PGAS naik, hasil +50, #184114, 13 Aug. 23. BUMI turun, hasil +250, #184118, 13 Aug (WRONG) 24. BNBR naik, hasil -1, #184563, 14 Aug (WRONG) - B. Prediksi2 belum terjawab : - 01. Bgm BEI hingga akhir tahun 2009? #176949, 19 July. BEI as at 17 July = 2106.35 Prediksi : naik dulu baru turun. Hasil : belum terjawab, BEI as at 14 Aug = 2386.86 02. Bgm BEI bulan Aug ini? #180513, 01 Aug. BEI as at 31 July = 2323.24 Prediksi : BEI masih ok/ijo. Hasil : belum terjawab, BEI as at 14 Aug = 2386.86 03. Bgm BNBR hingga akhir tahun 2009? #179743, 30 July. BNBR as at 30 July = 95 Prediksi : Prospek BNBR hingga akhir 2009 BAGUS SEKALI. Hasil : belum terjawab, BNBR as at 14 Aug = 137. = Bgm selanjutnya : = Ane tetap sesekali posting prediksi di OB namun tidak tiap hari seperti sebelumnya, mulai senen akan konsentrasi belajar prediksi forex dan melanjutkan belajar I Ching dengan membeli buku2 I CHING di Amazon dari hasil cuan prediksi saham selama ini. Good luck all, Carpe Diem.
[ob] Re: Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + Last wish to I Ching
He..he.. bener kata prof JT, si mbah paling pinter ngomporin. Btw, ane khan dari awal udah bilang, ane baru belajar I Ching en level ane cuma SD (Tk?) jadinya ane masi jauh untuk di sebut hebat. Bisa aja selama ini ane hoki doang. Ttg last wish, ane coba deh mbah. Tapi ane rasa cuma ttg BEI aja krn kalo liat statistik, semua prediksi ane ttg BEI bener semua, sedangkan BUMI ada yg bener ada juga yang salah. Selain itu ane juga udah nga pegang BUMI lagi, takutnya krn udah nga megang, prediksi nga akurat. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote: Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + Last wish to I Ching Ini gambar yg embah buat tgl 10 Agustus: http://www.obrolanbandar.com/pwlihsgzz.png Saat itu: - IHSG 2389 saat ini 2386 (-3) - BUMI 3200 saat ini 3225 (+25) Apakah ada analis yg bisa disebut analis Hebat dan Baik hati pada tgl 11, 12, 13 dan 14 ?. Coba tolong check Embah perpanjang periode Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati ini sampe tgl 21 Agustus. Kalo I Ching bisa meramalkan BUMI dan IHSG pada periode tgl 18 sampe 21, embah baru percaya I Ching karena pada periode ini UNSUR BAIK HATI yg pegang peranan. Pada periode2 sebelumnya unsur TA dan BA yg pegang peranan... Pak SB sang Master Hokie, seharusnya nyoba karena disini peranan DISAYANG TUHAN sangat dibutuhkan pada periode ini.
[ob] Re: [Ask I Ching] Bgm BUMI hari kamis ini? 13 Aug
for the record only : 3175-2925 = +250 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ichingprediction iching_predict...@... wrote: I Ching answer : Yin (New) Yang (New) Yin (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) Yin (New) The present is embodied in Hexagram 29 - K'an (Water): We see the possession of sincerity, through which the mind is penetrating. Action in accordance with this will be of high value. There are no changing lines, and hence the situation is expected to remain the same in the immediate future. The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the upper trigram K'an (Water), which represents danger and the unknown. The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the lower trigram K'an (Water), which represents danger and the unknown. Interpretasi anda ? ayo tebak...sekali-kali belajar nebak donk..he..he..he..
[ob] Re: [Ask I ching] bgm pgas hari kamis ini? 13 aug
for the record only : 3450-3400 = +50 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ichingprediction iching_predict...@... wrote: I Ching answer : Yang (New) Yang (Old) Yin (New) Yin (Old) Yang (New) Yang (New) The present is embodied in Hexagram 61 - Chung Fu (Inner Truth): Inner truth moves even pigs and fish, and leads to good fortune. There will be advantage in crossing the great stream. There will be advantage in being firm and correct. The third line, divided, shows its subject having met with his mate. Now he beats his drum, and now he leaves off. Now he weeps, and now he sings. The fifth line, undivided, shows its subject perfectly sincere, and linking others to him in closest union. There will be no error. The situation is shifting, but neither Yin (the passive feminine force) nor Yang (the active masculine force) is gaining ground. Yang (New) Yin (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) The future is embodied in Hexagram 26 - Ta Ch'u (The Taming Power of the Great): It will be advantageous to be firm and correct. If he does not seek to enjoy his revenues in his own family, without taking service at court, there will be good fortune. It will be advantageous for him to cross the great stream. The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the upper trigram Sun (Wind), which is tansforming into Ken (Mountain). As part of this process, penetration and following are giving way to stillness and obstruction. The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the lower trigram Tui (Lake), which is transforming into Chi'en (Heaven). As part of this process, joy, pleasure, and attraction are giving way to strength and creativity. --- Interpretasi ane : PGAS naik. Disc. on.
[ob] Re: IDX 29xx, December 2009
biar seru dan ada check en balance (pemilu kali..he..he) ane tetep dgn prediksi awal yg diposting pertengahan juli kemaren, idx naik dulu baru turun. so far udah bener separuh, idx naik dulu ( entah sampe berapa) tp akhir tahun turun krn sesuatu hal. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote: *Elaine and Art punya target sama that IDX will create all time high this year 29xx. Siapa mau kasih complain, please write it here. Elaine*
[ob] Re: [Ask I Ching] Bgm BUMI hari kamis ini? 13 Aug
ane jg bingung mbah, beberapa hari ini prediksi iching yg harusnya naik lumayan cuma naik dikit (mis. pgas), yg harusnya turun malah naik (mis bumi). kayaknya emang harus turun kelas nih dari sd ke tk. khusus bumi hari ini, ingat postingan ane ttg time frame iching, mungkin berlaku lagi di bumi. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx-consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote: Pak Wimanto, The present is embodied in Hexagram 29 - K'an (Water): We see the possession of sincerity, through which the mind is penetrating. Action in accordance with this will be of high value. There are no changing lines, and hence the situation is expected to remain the same in the immediate future. The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the upper trigram K'an (Water), which represents danger and the unknown. Water represent DANGER and THE UNKNOWN !!! --- resiko KELELEP. Tapi kok BUMI naik +250 Note: - Tapi prediksi ini akan jadi BENAR bagi yg ngeSHORT BUMI , rugi 250 perak , benerkan DANGER kata I Ching. - Interpetasi I Ching sangat subyektif dan berbahaya bagi PEMULA, tapi hampir semua ilmu juga BEGITU: Contoh: - PERnya kecil karena investor tmenghindari saham tsb sehingga harganya ambles dan otomatis PERnya kecil. - Indicator Tekinikal sudah EXTRIM OVERBOUGHT tapi sahamnya naik terus Jadi suatu ilmu yg dikuasai SETENGAH STENGAH bisa berbahaya !!!
[ob] [Ask I Ching] Bgm BNBR hari Jumat ini? 14 Aug
I Ching answer : Yin (New) Yang (Old) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) The present is embodied in Hexagram 43 - Kuai (Resolve): It is required that the culprit's guilt be exhibited in the royal court, along with a sincere and earnest appeal for sympathy and support, with consciousness of the peril involved in cutting off the criminal. He should also make announcement in his own city, and show that it will not be well to have recourse at once to arms. In this way there will be advantage in whatever he shall go forward to. The fifth line, undivided, shows the small men like a bed of purslain, which ought to be uprooted with the utmost determination. The subject of the line having such determination, his action, in harmony with his central position, will lead to no error or blame. The situation is evolving slowly, and Yin (the passive feminine force) is gaining ground. Yin (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) The future is embodied in Hexagram 34 - Ta Chuang (The Power of the Great): It will be advantageous to be firm and correct. The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the upper trigram Tui (Lake), which is tansforming into Chen (Thunder). As part of this process, joy, pleasure, and attraction are giving way to movement, initiative, and action. The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the lower trigram Chi'en (Heaven), which represents strength and creativity Interpretasi ane : BNBR naik. Disc.on.
Re: [ob] BUMI
setuju, cuma feeling ane ama bumi akhir2 ini kurang bagus, mungkin mau di bawa turun kali pas nanati bei koreksingarep.com --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jacob Oen oenja...@... wrote: Yes, you're truly correct! Bukan saja pada saat Index turun dia naik, juga pada saat Index naik dia turun bahkan pernah mencapai titik nadirnya di 385, tinggal 5% dari harga Tertingginya. Bumi ibarat gadis cantik yang dikejar-kejar (pada saat eforia BuLLISH) dan seperti gadis buruk yang perlu dihindari kalau perlu dicampakan (pada saat panik BEARISH). Ha ha haLove and Hate, GREED and FEAR is always attached to the STOCK Market game. Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody, it will also brighten your path.] -Original Message- From: charles_3983 charles_3...@... Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 04:33:49 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] BUMI BUMI melawan arah index... Such a strong stock...
Re: [ob] Hasil mk jam 2
tenang, nga ada pilpres ulang. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, EB⢠edbami...@... wrote: Yang lain pada nyopet pak. Kenapa harus panik? Boss DE aja malah horny. Hehehhee Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -Original Message- From: Candra Wu wu_can...@... Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:32:45 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Hasil mk jam 2 Senior, advise dong. Jual atao hold saja Udah mulai panik nih Thanks -Original Message- From: Peter Alimin milis...@... Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:22:41 To: OBobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [ob] Hasil mk jam 2 ML Indonesia mulai ngamuk tuh..dijualin semua bUMN! sptnya dia tau sesuatu!? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com From: dhol...@... Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:21:00 + Subject: Re: [ob] Hasil mk jam 2 Updatenya ya pak Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by INDOSAT From: Ferry Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:16:37 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [ob] Hasil mk jam 2
Re: [ob] Come on Bozz... make it fast to 2200 today :)
he..he...mbah nafsu... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote: SERBU Keputusan LAGI dibacakan
[ob] Re: [Ask I Ching] Bgm BUMI hari Rabu ini? 12 Aug
for the record only : 2925-3100 = -175 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ichingprediction iching_predict...@... wrote: I Ching answer : Yin (New) Yang (New) Yin (New) Yin (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) The present is embodied in Hexagram 3 - Chun (Difficulty at the Beginning): There will be great progress and success, and the advantage will come from being correct and firm. Any movement in advance should not be undertaken lightly. There will be advantage in appointing feudal princes or other delegates in your stead. There are no changing lines, and hence the situation is expected to remain the same in the immediate future. The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the upper trigram K'an (Water), which represents danger and the unknown. The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the lower trigram Chen (Thunder), which represents movement, initiative, and action. Interpretasi ane : BUMI turun. Disc. on.
[ob] Re: Ini dia berita yang bikin market koreksi!
kalo pak de udah berapa kalo gonta-ganti ce? jgn2 uda cetak rekor muri..he..he.. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@... wrote: Kalau konteksnya trading, keseringan trading bisa bikin trader jenuh apalagi kalo ga coan2. Akhirnya lebih milih diam nonton doang. Regards, DE Rabu, 12/08/2009 16:20 WIB Hasrat Seks Mati Setelah 500 kali Ganti Pasangan *Nurul Ulfah* - detikHealth [image: img] *(Foto : Power-herbs)* *Jakarta,* Di zaman sekarang, seks bebas bukan hal yang aneh lagi sepertinya. Muda-mudi berganti pasangan dan melakukan seks di luar nikah. Bagi mereka yang punya hobi itu, siap-siap saja menderita kematian hasrat seksual ketika sudah berkeluarga nantinya. Kebiasaan melakukan seks bebas dengan pasangan yang berbeda-beda ternyata bisa menjadi penyakit dan bumerang bagi diri sendiri. Seseorang yang sering melakukan seks bebas dan berganti-ganti pasangan sebelum menikah diperkirakan akan menderita penyakit Hypoactive Sexual Desire Disorder atau HSDD. Hal tersebut disampaikan oleh Dr. Naek L Tobing, pakar seksolog ternama usai mengisi acara konsultasi online detikForum, kepada detikhealth, Rabu (12/8/2009). Menurutnya, HSDD bisa disebabkan oleh banyak faktor, dan salah satunya adalah karena seringnya melakukan seks dengan pasangan yang tidak tetap. Saya pernah didatangi satu pasien, seorang pria umur 38 tahun, punya satu anak dan satu istri. Ia mengeluh tidak memiliki hasrat seks sama sekali pada istrinya, ujar pria lulusan Sex Educator dan Sex Counselor di State University Minessota, Amerika Serikat (1983) tersebut. Pria itu sangat menyayangi istrinya, setiap malam jika anaknya menangis atau ngompol, dia yang mengurusnya. Tapi ironisnya, tiap malam pria itu mengeluarkan air mata karena tidak bisa melakukan seks dengan istrinya, ujar Naek. Setelah diteliti-teliti, diketahuilah penyebab semuanya itu. Setelah saya korek-korek, pria itu akhirnya mengaku bahwa waktu mudanya ia sering berganti-ganti pasangan, ungkapnya. Pasangan yang pernah ia tiduri pun tak tanggung-tanggung jumlahnya. Ketika ditanya berapa wanita yang sudah ditidurinya, ia mengaku kurang lebih sekitar 500 wanita, dan hampir setengahnya melakukan hubungan seks dengannya ketika masih perawan, ujar Naek. Kebiasaan itulah yang akhirnya membuat pria itu kehilangan hasrat bercinta dengan istrinya. Karena dulu ia tidak bisa tahan dengan satu pasangan, lama kelamaan menjadi *habit *dan ketika sudah menikah malah menjadi penyakit, tuturnya. Menurut Naek, kebiasaan si pria hidung belang itu ternyata sudah dilakoninya sejak lulus kuliah. Setelah lulus S1, ia kerja 5 tahun, punya banyak duit, sering datang ke klub-klub malam, dan akhirnya tanpa disadari sudah banyak wanita yang ia gauli, tuturnya. Itu mungkin sebabnya mengapa di Amerika banyak pasangan yang cerai, hampir 50 persen orang Amerika pasti bercerai. Itu dia sebabnya, karena di Amerika seks bebas sudah sangat lazim sehingga pada saat berkeluarga sudah mati hasratnya, ujarnya.
[ob] Re: DOWNLOAD SILABUS MATERI SEMINAR TRADING FOR LIVING 2009
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[ob] [Ask I ching] bgm pgas hari kamis ini? 13 aug
I Ching answer : Yang (New) Yang (Old) Yin (New) Yin (Old) Yang (New) Yang (New) The present is embodied in Hexagram 61 - Chung Fu (Inner Truth): Inner truth moves even pigs and fish, and leads to good fortune. There will be advantage in crossing the great stream. There will be advantage in being firm and correct. The third line, divided, shows its subject having met with his mate. Now he beats his drum, and now he leaves off. Now he weeps, and now he sings. The fifth line, undivided, shows its subject perfectly sincere, and linking others to him in closest union. There will be no error. The situation is shifting, but neither Yin (the passive feminine force) nor Yang (the active masculine force) is gaining ground. Yang (New) Yin (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) The future is embodied in Hexagram 26 - Ta Ch'u (The Taming Power of the Great): It will be advantageous to be firm and correct. If he does not seek to enjoy his revenues in his own family, without taking service at court, there will be good fortune. It will be advantageous for him to cross the great stream. The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the upper trigram Sun (Wind), which is tansforming into Ken (Mountain). As part of this process, penetration and following are giving way to stillness and obstruction. The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the lower trigram Tui (Lake), which is transforming into Chi'en (Heaven). As part of this process, joy, pleasure, and attraction are giving way to strength and creativity. --- Interpretasi ane : PGAS naik. Disc. on.
[ob] [Ask I Ching] Bgm BUMI hari kamis ini? 13 Aug
I Ching answer : Yin (New) Yang (New) Yin (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) Yin (New) The present is embodied in Hexagram 29 - K'an (Water): We see the possession of sincerity, through which the mind is penetrating. Action in accordance with this will be of high value. There are no changing lines, and hence the situation is expected to remain the same in the immediate future. The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the upper trigram K'an (Water), which represents danger and the unknown. The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the lower trigram K'an (Water), which represents danger and the unknown. Interpretasi anda ? ayo tebak...sekali-kali belajar nebak donk..he..he..he..
Re: [ob] [Ask I Ching] Bgm BUMI hari kamis ini? 13 Aug
Ayooo..dipilih...dipilih... gampang kok nebaknya, cuma ada 3 pilihan : naik, turun or tetap...he..he --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, paramanand...@... wrote: Ya naik lah Bumi nya Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: ichingprediction iching_predict...@... Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:15:53 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] [Ask I Ching] Bgm BUMI hari kamis ini? 13 Aug I Ching answer : Yin (New) Yang (New) Yin (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) Yin (New) The present is embodied in Hexagram 29 - K'an (Water): We see the possession of sincerity, through which the mind is penetrating. Action in accordance with this will be of high value. There are no changing lines, and hence the situation is expected to remain the same in the immediate future. The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the upper trigram K'an (Water), which represents danger and the unknown. The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the lower trigram K'an (Water), which represents danger and the unknown. Interpretasi anda ? ayo tebak...sekali-kali belajar nebak donk..he..he..he..
Re: [ob] [Ask I Ching] Bgm BUMI hari kamis ini? 13 Aug
ane nga ragu pak oen, cume mo ngetest aje..he..he.. cuma tebakan rei senada ama ane. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jacob Oen oenja...@... wrote: Karena IChing kelihatan ragu2, kemungkinan besar BUMI turun. Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody, it will also brighten your path.] -Original Message- From: Rei highwaysta...@... Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 08:32:24 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] [Ask I Ching] Bgm BUMI hari kamis ini? 13 Aug Bumi turun... On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 8:15 AM, ichingprediction iching_predict...@... wrote: I Ching answer : Yin (New) Yang (New) Yin (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) Yin (New) The present is embodied in Hexagram 29 - K'an (Water): We see the possession of sincerity, through which the mind is penetrating. Action in accordance with this will be of high value. There are no changing lines, and hence the situation is expected to remain the same in the immediate future. The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the upper trigram K'an (Water), which represents danger and the unknown. The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the lower trigram K'an (Water), which represents danger and the unknown. Interpretasi anda ? ayo tebak...sekali-kali belajar nebak donk..he..he..he..
Re: [ob] [Ask I Ching] Bgm BEI hari Selasa ini? 11 Aug
for the record only : bei ijo +9.714 jadi 2399.276 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, zhongxiu...@... wrote: Seberapa ijokah BEI hari ini? Keijo-ijoan atau ijo sekali pak? Salam Bandar Cuan Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: ichingprediction iching_predict...@... Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 01:13:30 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] [Ask I Ching] Bgm BEI hari Selasa ini? 11 Aug Iching answer : Yin (Old) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) The present is embodied in Hexagram 49 - Ko (Revolution): What takes place is believed in only after it has been accomplished. There will be great progress and success. Advantage will come from being firm and correct. In that case, occasion for repentance will disappear. The sixth line, divided, shows the superior man producing his changes as the leopard does when he changes his spots, while small men change their faces and show their obedience. To go forward now would lead to evil, but there will be good fortune in abiding firm and correct. The situation is evolving slowly, and Yang (the active masculine force) is gaining ground. Yang (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) The future is embodied in Hexagram 13 - T'ung Jen (Fellowship with Men): The union of me appears here in the remote districts of the country, indicating progress and success. It will be advantageous to cross the great stream. It will be advantageous to maintain the firm correctness of the superior man. The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the upper trigram Tui (Lake), which is tansforming into Chi'en (Heaven). As part of this process, joy, pleasure, and attraction are giving way to strength and creativity. The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the lower trigram Li (Fire), which represents brightness and warmth. - Interpretasi ane : BEI ijo. Disc.on.
Re: [ob] New special member, pak Irawan Jhony
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jhony Irawan irawan.jh...@... wrote: Terima kasih atas kehormatanyg di berikan. Saya bukan lah expert karena tidak ada orang yg expert di Pasar Modal, semua nya hanya sharing, tapi terus terang belakangan saya jadi sangat khawatir dengan kondisi pasar modal kita, terutama dengan terbatasnya kemampuan Bapepam serta BEI untuk mengawasi atau mungkin juga ada tekanan dari yg kita bilang INVISIBLE HAND nya ekonomi, serta kemampuan para Emiten untuk melakukan trik-trik baru yang se akan-akan tidak terjangkau oleh regulator Pasar Modal. Saya telah mencoba melihat kondisi para pelaku Pasar Modal, para Analis serta regulator dan juga kondisi pasar secara keseluruhan dan saya bisa mengambil kesimpulan sementara bahwa semakin hari para pelaku dan pemain semakin di butakan hanya oleh segala macam bentuk TA an FA. Bukan nya saya anti TA dan FA, karena tidak mungkin suatu teori dibuat tanpa adanya bukti konkrit dari teori tersebut, namun yg namanya teori, apalagi Teori Ilmu Ekonomi, kalau kita kembali kepada prinsip Teori ada yg namanya CATERIS PARIBUS yaitu Kondisi-kondisi lain selain yg di muat di dalam teori berjalan normal, apa adanya dan sesuai teori (teori lagi) Untuk kondisi sekarang, justru kondisi-kondisi diluar dari apa yg menjadi element dari analisa yg sering berubah tidak menentu dan cenderung memanipulasi sehingga element yg kita masuk kan ke dalam analisa kita bisa jadi menjadi tidak relevan lagi. Lain hal nya jika misalkan semua Emiten melakukan bisnisnya dengan jujur, mengeluarkan angka Laporan Keuangan tanpa pretensi apa-apa atau tidak memiliki rencana tertentu atas angka yg mereka keluarkan tersebut dan fungsi pengawasan berjalan sebagaimana mestinya. Saat itulah TA dan FA akan saya akui 100% akan berhasil. Namun di sisi lain, faktor pembentuk harga dan terjadinya transaksi adalah analisa dan persepsi yg berbeda dari setiap penafsirnya sehingga bisa berakibat 2 orang yg memakai teori analisa yg sama akan mengambil keputusan yg berlawanan yaitu satu orang mau menjual sedangkan yg lain ingin membeli. Dengan demikian kembali Zero, maksudnya akan ada lagi teori-teori baru dan bahkan akan ada anti teori yg akan melawan arus, karena kalau tidak maka tidak akan ada transaksi. Kondisi ideal yg di idam-idam kan setiap pelaku pasar adalah fungsi pengawasan yg berjalan baik sehingga tidak ada menipulasi yg di lakukan oleh baik yg namanya emiten maupun bandar, namun kalau kondisi ini terjadi maka akan banyak sekuritas yg tutup karena semua investor telah mengerti dengan sebenar-benar nya kondisi pasar dan kondisi saham emiten yg akan mereka beli. Mangkanya tidak heran kalau setiap pagi e-mail kita di penuhi oleh rekomendasi saham dari para analis tempat kita buka account dan bahkan kita belum mansi pun sudah di telpon oleh para trader sekuritas yang memang mengandalkan income mereka dari komisi transaksi. Coba bayangkan kalau fungsi pengawasan berkalan dengan baik sehingga tidak ada rumor, tidak ada issue yang akan menggoyang harga saham, maka akan banyak juga sekuritas yang tutup karena tidak aad lagi spekulan yg main one day trading. Bagi perusahaan sekuritas, kepentingan mereka adalah volume transaksi yg sebesar-besarnya karena baik anda jual atau pun beli, rugi maupun untung, mereka nggak ada masalah karena anda tetap akan di kutip fee transaksi. Bagi mereka semakin besar velume transaksi akan semakin besar pula income mereka. Sekian dulu, salam hormat dari saya, Irawan Jhony --- On Tue, 8/11/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote: From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... Subject: [ob] New special member, pak Irawan Jhony To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 8:46 AM New special member, pak Irawan Jhony Kita kedatangan tamu spesial yaitu pak Irawan Jhony, dari tulisan tulisannya terkesan beliau expert dan berpengalaman dengan LIKU LIKU pasar modal, termasuk LIKU LIKU yg agak 'gelap' yg jarang diketemukan pada textbook. Mudah mudahan pak Jhony bisa melengkapi member yg punya keahlian bandarmologi dari segi taktik LIHAI para BD bermain dipasar modal. Welcome pak Jhony...
Re: [ob] artomoro berlibur
top jendral, ane jual pas di 200. btw ntar bagi liat foto bugilnya prof ya, khan janjinya gitu...wkwkwkwk --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, artomoro9 artomo...@... wrote: Prof JT, Trub Udah 200 tuh kemaren. Ane mau bilang itoldu, ga enak sama DE. ntar di bilang virus. Next? Just hold to 240. When? Terserah gue dong. Ntar gue kabari lg ya. Gut lak all. artomoro9 wrote: HOLD TRUBA TP 200 hari kamis 13 agustus 2009 sesi 1 A9. --- Pada Jum, 7/8/09, JT jsxtra...@... menulis: Dari: JT jsxtra...@... Judul: RE: [ob] artomoro berlibur Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Jumat, 7 Agustus, 2009, 3:38 PM  Yeâ¦, tadi pagi ente nyuruh orang hajar hajar aje tapi ente malah mau pegi liburan, giimana tuh ??  JT   (Hahahaâ¦, gentian lo, kemaren lusa ngeledek guaâ¦,  emang enak ??, haha)  From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of artomoro9 Sent: 07 Agustus 2009 15:22 To: ob Subject: [ob] artomoro berlibur  mumpung embah OOT: masa cuma karena gue mau liburan 3 hari doang ihsg jadi merah sih... www.virus-GR. com
[ob] [Ask I Ching] Bgm BUMI hari Rabu ini? 12 Aug
I Ching answer : Yin (New) Yang (New) Yin (New) Yin (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) The present is embodied in Hexagram 3 - Chun (Difficulty at the Beginning): There will be great progress and success, and the advantage will come from being correct and firm. Any movement in advance should not be undertaken lightly. There will be advantage in appointing feudal princes or other delegates in your stead. There are no changing lines, and hence the situation is expected to remain the same in the immediate future. The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the upper trigram K'an (Water), which represents danger and the unknown. The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the lower trigram Chen (Thunder), which represents movement, initiative, and action. Interpretasi ane : BUMI turun. Disc. on.
[ob] Re: [Ask I Ching] Bgm BUMI hari senen ini? 10 Aug
For the record only : 3200-2975 = +225 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ichingprediction iching_predict...@... wrote: I Ching answer : Yang (New) Yang (Old) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yin (New) The present is embodied in Hexagram 44 - Kou (Coming to Meet): We see a female who is bold and strong. It will not be good to marry such a female. The fifth line, undivided, a medlar tree overspreading the gourd beneath it. If he keeps his brilliant qualities concealed, a good issue will descend as from Heaven. The situation is evolving slowly, and Yin (the passive feminine force) is gaining ground. Yang (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yin (New) The future is embodied in Hexagram 50 - Ting (The Caldron): There is an intimation of great progress and success. [Image] The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the upper trigram Chi'en (Heaven), which is tansforming into Li (Fire). As part of this process, strength and creativity are giving way to brightness and warmth. [Image] The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the lower trigram Sun (Wind), which represents penetration and following. --- Interpretasi ane : Bumi naik. Disc. on.
Re: [ob] BUMBUM
ada yg bisa kasi pandangan inco secara ta? kayaknya besok bisa melaju --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Aria Bela Nusa ariab...@... wrote: Sptnya 3,500-an - jaraknya setinggi 2 (dua) garis coklat ke atas2 _ From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jsx-consultant Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 1:28 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] BUMBUM Testing Higher Extreme line http://www.obrolanb http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbumi.png andar.com/piwbumi.png - Original Message - From: abe abe abe9...@gmail. mailto:abe9889%40gmail.com com To: Obrolan-bandar@ mailto:Obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 1:16 PM Subject: [ob] BUMBUM Kok ga ada yg omong2 BUMI? Akan kemana dia? Thx -- Sent from my mobile device --- winners never quit, quitters never win ---
[ob] Re: What's wrong with PGAS ?
besok main. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, billy_budiman92 billybudima...@... wrote: Gas climbs nearly 19 cents in 20 days The national average hits $2.645 a gallon, up 7.6%, since July 21 as driving season reaches its peak. Gasoline prices and taxes by state Prices at the pump can vary widely among states, due in large part to vastly different levels of gasoline tax. More NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Gas prices continued to climb Monday, with the national average up nearly 19 cents over the last 20 days, according to motorist group AAA. The national average price for a gallon of regular gasoline edged up 0.2 cent to $2.645, according to AAA's daily survey of up to 100,000 filling stations. Prices have increased every day since July 21, when the national average stood at $2.458 a gallon. During that time, the national average has risen 18.7 cents, or 7.6%. Gas prices were highest in Hawaii, where a gallon averages $3.179. South Carolina had the cheapest gas prices in the nation at $2.424 a gallon. The spike comes as the price of crude oil, which is the main ingredient in gasoline, has been pushed higher by signs of economic stabilization and a rally on Wall Street. At the same time, analysts point out that July and August are peak driving months and that gas prices typically surge during the summer as more Americans take to the roads. On June 21, the national average topped $2.693 a gallon -- its highest level of the year. But prices eased in the weeks following the July 4th holiday, slipping below $2.50 a gallon. Last summer, gas prices soared to an all-time average high of $4.114 a gallon on the back of oil prices near $150 a barrel. Prices abruptly dropped in the second half of last year, with the national average gas price plunging to a low of $1.656 in December. Kalau kita itung kasar juga, dari 3,350 closing PGAS 22 Juli, kalau naik 7,6 %, PGAS minimal bisa reach 3,600 dan tampak di chart lagi diakumulasi, hehehhehee BD mau nungguin kita CL kali ya, hehehe GBU
Re: [ob] BUMBUM
thx bill. besok inco naik. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, billy_budiman92 billybudima...@... wrote: INCO secara TA cukup good lha, MA 5 masih dibawah candle, MACD juga masih bullish, williams mau golden cross, dan volume saat koreksi juga kecil ketimbang saat rally. Support kuat 4,750, ada jalan cukup lapang buat INCO ke 5,500 GBU --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ichingprediction iching_prediction@ wrote: ada yg bisa kasi pandangan inco secara ta? kayaknya besok bisa melaju --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Aria Bela Nusa ariabela@ wrote: Sptnya 3,500-an - jaraknya setinggi 2 (dua) garis coklat ke atas2 _ From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jsx-consultant Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 1:28 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] BUMBUM Testing Higher Extreme line http://www.obrolanb http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbumi.png andar.com/piwbumi.png - Original Message - From: abe abe abe9...@gmail. mailto:abe9889%40gmail.com com To: Obrolan-bandar@ mailto:Obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 1:16 PM Subject: [ob] BUMBUM Kok ga ada yg omong2 BUMI? Akan kemana dia? Thx -- Sent from my mobile device --- winners never quit, quitters never win ---
Re: [ob] BUMBUM
thx bill. besok inco naik. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, billy_budiman92 billybudima...@... wrote: INCO secara TA cukup good lha, MA 5 masih dibawah candle, MACD juga masih bullish, williams mau golden cross, dan volume saat koreksi juga kecil ketimbang saat rally. Support kuat 4,750, ada jalan cukup lapang buat INCO ke 5,500 GBU --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ichingprediction iching_prediction@ wrote: ada yg bisa kasi pandangan inco secara ta? kayaknya besok bisa melaju --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Aria Bela Nusa ariabela@ wrote: Sptnya 3,500-an - jaraknya setinggi 2 (dua) garis coklat ke atas2 _ From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jsx-consultant Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 1:28 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] BUMBUM Testing Higher Extreme line http://www.obrolanb http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbumi.png andar.com/piwbumi.png - Original Message - From: abe abe abe9...@gmail. mailto:abe9889%40gmail.com com To: Obrolan-bandar@ mailto:Obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 1:16 PM Subject: [ob] BUMBUM Kok ga ada yg omong2 BUMI? Akan kemana dia? Thx -- Sent from my mobile device --- winners never quit, quitters never win ---
[ob] Re: Cerita-cerita Seru :)
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote: Jam 3:20 pagi, DJI sudah close pagi ini = -32 http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbnbr.png --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Febry Hariyannugraha febry.hariyannugraha@ wrote: Mbah, numpang cerita2 dikit yah .. Iseng2 saya buat chart saham2 bakrie, saham2 batu bara, saham2 mining dan juga beberapa saham lainnya. 1. Saham Bakrie. Pada lima hari terakhir, saya melihat BNBR dipake BD Bakrie untuk mulai mentrigger gerakan saham2 bakrie lainnya sambil BD melakukan switching di beberapa saham Bakrie (interpretasi saya) Hari Selasa, BD ngangkar BNBR untuk mentrigger saham Bakrie lainnya dan memancing trader untuk masuk. BUMI dibiarkan flat, dan BD menggerakkan ENRG, DEWA dan BTEL. ENRG dan BNBR berjalan dengan manis, terlihat dari pergerakannya yang sama sampai dengan hari kamis minggu lalu. Pada hari Jum'at dan Senin, terjadi distribusi / akumulasi untuk ENRG dimana ENRG dibiarkan flat, dan BD terus mengangkat BNBR sehingga trader terpancing untuk switching ke BNBR. Hal ini terkonfirm dari beberapa email yang menyatakan switching ENRG ke BNBR. Begitu juga yang terjadi untuk BUMI dan DEWA. BUMI mulai diangkat pada hari kamis, dimana separasi antara BUMI dgn ENRG dan BNBR sangat besar. Mungkin saja, BD melihat trader sudah pada berpindah gerbong ke BNBR sehingga dapat menarik BUMI. Harapan Trader supaya DEWA juga ikut dinaikan tidak terjadi, dikarenakan BD mungkin ladi mengakumulasi / mendistribusi DEWA dimana dalam 3 hari terakhir pergerakanny Flat. Dengan melihat kenaikan BNBR secara spektakuler, saya melihat ada rencana besar disana. Apa mungkin BD memaksa trader untuk naik gerbong BNBR sambil terus akumulasi, BUMI,ENRG, DEWA dan BTEL. Please advise mbah. 2. Saham Coal. Saya pilih DJIUCL, PTBA, ITMG, BUMI, DEWA dan INDY sebagai bahan analisa. Pergerakan PTBA sangat serasi dengan pergerakan harga coal dunia (DJIUCL), dan buat membuat saya yakin bahwa PTBA bergerak sesuai dengan suplay dan demand harga coal dunia. Saham coal lainnya tidak demikian, masih dipengaruhi oleh harapan2 investor untuk membuat harga2 yang pas dengan kemauan pasar. Dari chart, saya coba menginterpretasi bahwa para investor ITMG lari ke BUMI dan mungkin INDY, tidak ke PTBA. Kenapa ? karena gerakan ITMG bertolak belakang dengan BUMI dan INDY. Yang menarik adalah INDY. Kenapa INDY bergerak sejalan dengan BUMI ? Ada apa dengan INDY ? Apakah BD INDY dan BUMI sama ? Jangan lupa, INDY jarang dibahas di OB, dan bisa menjadi kuda hitam nantinya .. Email mengenai INDY terlihat beberapa hari yang lalu dari beberapa member ke Prof JT .. Prof JT bilang ada usaha untuk menembusa 2600, watch kalau break dengan volume .. Apakah sekarang sudah waktunya masuk INDY ? 3. Saham2 mining. Saya mencoba mecari korelasi saham-saham metal dengan BUMI. Terlihat jelas, behaviour saham2 metal dan BUMN sangat sejalan. TINS, ANTM, PGAS, INCO dan PTBA tidak jalan sama sekali ketika BUMI diangkat. Sentimen energy dan metal merupakan komponen yang tidak terpisahkan cukup terbantahkan beberapa hari belakang ini. Apakah mungkin Metal BUMN sudah mahal sehingga investor tidak berminat lagi atau lagi diakumulasi ? 4. Various Chart. Yang terakhir saya mencoba mencari korelasi gerakan beberapa sektor, Finance (BMRI), Property (CTRA), CPO (AALI), INFRA (UNTR) dan MINING (ANTM) vs BUMI. Distribusi pada sektor banking dn property sudah mulai terjadi pada hari rabu minggu lalu. Akumulasi CPO sudah mulai dilakukan pada 5 hari terakhir dimana harga begerak dalam range yang sempit (2% - an). Sektor Banking yg saya wakili dengan BMRI sudah mulai jenuh, terlihat dari pergerakannya yang flat dalam 3 hari ini. Apa mungkin finance lagi diakumulasi BD ? Who knows ... Anyway .. just my view .. I will appreciate your comment ... Thanks. FH
[ob] [Ask I Ching] Bgm BEI hari Selasa ini? 11 Aug
Iching answer : Yin (Old) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) The present is embodied in Hexagram 49 - Ko (Revolution): What takes place is believed in only after it has been accomplished. There will be great progress and success. Advantage will come from being firm and correct. In that case, occasion for repentance will disappear. The sixth line, divided, shows the superior man producing his changes as the leopard does when he changes his spots, while small men change their faces and show their obedience. To go forward now would lead to evil, but there will be good fortune in abiding firm and correct. The situation is evolving slowly, and Yang (the active masculine force) is gaining ground. Yang (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) The future is embodied in Hexagram 13 - T'ung Jen (Fellowship with Men): The union of me appears here in the remote districts of the country, indicating progress and success. It will be advantageous to cross the great stream. It will be advantageous to maintain the firm correctness of the superior man. The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the upper trigram Tui (Lake), which is tansforming into Chi'en (Heaven). As part of this process, joy, pleasure, and attraction are giving way to strength and creativity. The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the lower trigram Li (Fire), which represents brightness and warmth. - Interpretasi ane : BEI ijo. Disc.on.
[ob] Re: Asia is bullish and invincible (my decoupling theory is right)
don't panic, be happy. just a game. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote: *There goes the correction... Elaine** * On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 7:04 PM, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote: To EL, Apakah TIMING posting ini appropriate mengingat index China, India dan Singapore secara POSITIF sudah mengalami KOREKSI ?. http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=3ms=%5ESTIl=onz=lq=lc=%5EJKSE%2C%5EBSESN%2C01.SS --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui elainesui83@ wrote: *The latest report of US GDP and Unemployment (like we all know) were still bad (though better than expected), but Asian markets are decoupling their western counterpart. Fascinating. I'm bullish again (well I always bullish for long term anyway) Did you miss the train? So did I, but hey don't worry! [?] I still keep my long term target for Bakrie Brothers x3 and MNC Group x5 for Christmas 09. Buy ASIA on US weakness (If you know what I mean). Correction will come sooner or later but do not panic, it's a buying oportunity, just hold what you already have. I'm still expecting to see some discount to buy. INVEST. (If you want to LOL me, please send email to elainesui83@, do NOT send to this mailing list. I suck on short term strategy God damnit... argghh.. [?]) Elaine* + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] Contoh wartawan dodol
any info? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, billy_budiman92 billybudima...@... wrote: sampe si FREN naik gila2an, gitu, hehehehhee --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Ari Sugiarto Santoso arisugiarto.santoso@ wrote: Thx pak Cougar atas info-nya yg jitu,hehehe... Pada tanggal 10/08/09, Cougar Boy boysngirls@ menulis: ...semoga yang baca gak ikutan dodol - *BTEL Kembali Menawar FREN* JAKARTA. Perusahaan telepon milik Grup Bakrie, PT Bakrie Telecom Tbk (BTEL) masih berminat membeli 19% saham PT Mobile-8 Telecom Tbk (FREN) milik PT Global Mediacom Tbk (BMTR). Menurut kabar yang beredar, BTEL segera mengajukan penawaran baru untuk membeli 3,844 miliar saham FREN. * Sejauh ini manajemen Bakrie Telecom belum bersedia mengomentari soal rencana pembelian saham FREN ini. Sejauh ini BTEL masih bertahan dengan pertumbuhan organik, *kata Sekretaris Perusahaan BTEL Rachmad Junaidi, kemarin (9/8). * Direktur Utama BMTR Harry Tanoesoedibjo membenarkan sudah ada calon pembeli saham FREN. Namun, dia enggan mengungkapkan calon pembelinya*. Saya tidak bisa menyebutkan calon pembelinya karena terikat perjanjian kerahasiaan, elaknya. Harry menyatakan, BMTR akan langsung menutup transaksi penjualan dengan calon pembeli FREN itu. Saat ini proses penjualan saham FREN masih berjalan. BMTR terus mengurangi kepemilikan saham FREN. Tahun lalu misalnya, BMTR menjual 22,79% saham FREN miliknya kepada Jerash Investment. Usai penjualan tersebut, BMTR tinggal memiliki 19% saham FREN. FREN menyatakan, penjualan ini bagian dari restrukturisasi bisnis FREN. Maklum, sesuai kesepakatan restrukturisasi dengan para pemegang obligasinya, FREN berusaha mencari suntikan dana guna menyehatkan keuangan dan menjalankan roda bisnisnya. Salah satunya adalah dengan mencari investor baru. Proses itu masih terus berjalan di level pemegang saham, kata Chris Taufik Sekretaris Perusahaan FREN. [ Rizki Caturini, Sandy Baskoro ] KONTAN Mon, 10 Aug 2009 ( 07:13:54 WIB ) -- Dikirim dari perangkat seluler saya
Re: [ob] SEJATI: US mining vs RI mining
oil ke depan turun. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, wiro.mili...@... wrote: Oil secara technical targetnya sktr usd 91 embah, SOL Sent from my AXIS Worry Free BlackBerry® smartphone -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2009 10:15:03 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] SEJATI: US mining vs RI mining Sepertinya karena sector mining di BEI sangat intensif dengan emiten batu bara. Dan YG PALING PENTING, kebutuhan coal akan MENINGKAT jika minyak sudah mulai diatas $70 karena dunia akan mencari bahan bakar yg lebih murah dari minyak meskipun bahan bakar tsb LEBIH KOTOR dari segi polusi (Coal adalah substitusinya minyak) Jadi siap siap saja SAHAM BATU BARA MEROKET GILA GILAAN jika harga minyak naik lagi ke level 80. Embah serius dengan kata GILA GILAAN INI !!! Nah.. Sekarang bisakah anda meramalkan harga minyak, apakah akan ke 80 atau malah turun lagi... Main saham itu gampang, tapi bisakah anda meramal harga minyak, kalo bisa, untung gede sudah ada DIDEPAN PINTU ... hehehe... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, vividtrader vividtrader@ wrote: Itu US yg kemurahan atau kita yg kemahalan Mbah? 2009/8/8 jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ US mining vs RI mining Terjadi divergensi http://www.obrolanbandar.com/pwldjusmg.png Apakah ini diakibatkan sector coal ? + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
[ob] [Ask I Ching] Bgm BUMI hari senen ini? 10 Aug
I Ching answer : Yang (New) Yang (Old) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yin (New) The present is embodied in Hexagram 44 - Kou (Coming to Meet): We see a female who is bold and strong. It will not be good to marry such a female. The fifth line, undivided, a medlar tree overspreading the gourd beneath it. If he keeps his brilliant qualities concealed, a good issue will descend as from Heaven. The situation is evolving slowly, and Yin (the passive feminine force) is gaining ground. Yang (New) Yin (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yang (New) Yin (New) The future is embodied in Hexagram 50 - Ting (The Caldron): There is an intimation of great progress and success. [Image] The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the upper trigram Chi'en (Heaven), which is tansforming into Li (Fire). As part of this process, strength and creativity are giving way to brightness and warmth. [Image] The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the lower trigram Sun (Wind), which represents penetration and following. --- Interpretasi ane : Bumi naik. Disc. on.
[ob] Re: BUMI : Acc. Buy
3500 dah. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Tasrul tas...@... wrote: Target tercapai..lihat sikon lagi.. From: Tasrul Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 3:20 PM To: 'obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com' Subject: FW: BUMI : Acc. Buy Jangan buru-buru PT ya...ane udah bela belain nih kasih rekomendasi buy buat internal pas pukul 1:22 PM tadi. Tuh rata-rata 2,625.65 juga udah jebol rom: Tasrul Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 1:22 PM To: Equity Department Cc: Subject: BUMI : Acc. Buy Dear All, Berdasarkan perhitungan rata-rata tertimbang dari peak trough,terlihat BUMI lagi konsolidasi agar mampu tembus resistance terdekat di 2,793.26 untuk dapat naik lagi ke target 3,168.29. Support terdekat di 2,625.65. Tasrul PT. Overseas Securities Research Analyst Plaza Bapindo Mandiri Tower Lt.16 tas...@... mailto:tas...@... Jl. Jend.Sudirman Kav.54-55 Jakarta - 12190, Indonesia Phone 62.21.5277008 Fax62.21.5277009 DISCLAIMER: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the named addressee(s) is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. PT. Overseas Securities accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.
Re: [ob] Art, I want more
ane udah 'ngintip' nude fotonya el pake iching, top abis tuh..wkwkwkwk..sambil nunggu bei buka --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ueno_kobayashi ueno_kobaya...@... wrote: Yup...Jendral kita yg satu ini kan penuh pengalaman.. dan tahu itu semua cerita dulu... jadi sdh siapkan antisipasi... kayanya engga bakal kemakan umpan dech Salut dech sama Jendral kite... mending puasa aja Jendral... apa lagi dah mau lebaran... wah...jadi ingat anak cucu nich... pasti pada mau minta angpau... termasuk saya... heheheh canda.com. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, anru.sing@ wrote: Hehehe. Itu toh, maka Jendral ga komentar. Maunya foto dulu. :) Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: ueno_kobayashi ueno_kobayashi@ Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 05:50:15 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Art, I want more hehehe...ini cerita sejarah dulu... namanya juga cerita nich ye.. Pahlawan atau Jendral yg segagah apapun... kalau susah ditaklukkan di medan perang... biasanya oleh musuhna... dipakai jurus mei jen chie.. jurus wanita cantik... heheheh...achirnya dalam Ceritera tsb.. sang Jendral luluh juga dan jatoh ke dalam pelukan sang Jelita...wkwkwkwkwkwkwk cerita mode on... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, anru.sing@ wrote: Ooh, Jendral ke mana kok ga ngejawab? El minta discount -1000 tuh di BUMI, nanti dpt hers nude pics? Hajar kiri? Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: zhongxiulun@ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 04:29:38 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Art, I want more Wuiiih, ayo kita bantu jendral penuhin hasrat El, pengen nude pic nya seh... Kabur mode on Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Elaine Sui elainesui83@ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 11:25:39 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Art, I want more *He reached his target, now I should reach mine. Come on Art, I know you can do it. I'll give my nude pic if you can. [?] Elaine** * 2009/8/7 Febry Hariyannugraha febry.hariyannugraha@ Yh .. Loe loe pade .. Ane baru masuk udah minta diskon lagi :( Nanti lah, sebelum puasa aja gimana ?
