Re: [ob] INCO - Cup Handle ?
INCO akan terus naik trendnyaposisi sekarang DB lagi borong tuh..n harga nickel udah rebound dari kemarin..siap2 terbang , buy n hold guys.. BHP Billiton, Vale Shift to Quarterly Iron Ore Prices Published: Tuesday, 30 Mar 2010 | 2:20 AM ET Text Size By: Reuters Vale [VALE 32.00 1.21 (+3.93%) ] and BHP Billiton [VALE 32.00 1.21 (+3.93%) ] have persuaded Japanese steel mills to buy iron ore based on a quarterly pricing system as of April 1, signaling the demise of annual fixed-price contracts analysts said were costing miners billions of dollars in lost revenue. Tim Graham | The Image Bank | Getty Images Open cast mining for iron ore. A final shift to quarterly pricing requires World No. 2 producer Rio Tinto to also replace annual prices, which it has said it hopes to do this year, with China's continued support for the benchmark unlikely to stem the move to more flexible pricing. The big one will be if Rio decides moving away to quarterly index pricing, said James Wilson, resource analyst for DJ Camichael Co. That will be the end of (annual) benchmarking because Rio has almost all its sales on benchmark contracts, Wilson said. BHP Billiton, the world's No. 3 iron ore producer, said on Tuesday it had agreed with Asian customers to shift pricing for the majority of its iron ore to shorter term contracts that would see sales based on market-cleared prices. Vale has approved a tentative quarterly iron ore price deal with Asian steel companies that would boost prices by 90 percent. It would mark the first quarterly deals for Vale, while BHP has long employed hybrid contracts for its customers. The hike by Vale puts the price of ore at $105 per tonne for Japan'sNippon Steel and South Korea's Posco versus the current benchmark, due to expire on Wednesday, of around $62 a tonne. If that's the case, it's excellent, even though the market was already expecting $100 to $110. This will strongly increase revenues, said Pedro Galdi, an analyst with SLW Corretora. Spot iron ore has more than doubled in price since September as steelmaking worldwide recovers from the financial crisis. RELATED LINKS Current DateTime: 10:24:03 29 Mar 2010 LinksList Documentid: 36090510 * BHP, Rio to Seal Iron Ore JV by End 2010 * BHP Wins Break from Term Deals * BHP Lifts Iron Ore Output That's good news for us because, like most iron ore producers, we are price takers and ride on the back of what the big boys' negotiate, said Garret Dixon, managing director of Gindalbie Metals, which next year will mine 10 million tonnes of iron ore in Australia for sale to China's Ansteel. BHP chief Executive Marius Kloppers has pushed to change the rigid benchmark into a derivative-driven system similar to other global commodities such as oil. Vale Chief Executive Roger Agnelli is a more recent convert after defending the four-decade-old annual pricing system as the industry staple. Some steel mills have resisted the call to move toward spot pricing, particularly in Europe and China, where they say recoveries in steel demand are tentative. China's government has also thrown its weight behind the annual benchmark, with a Ministry of Industry and Information Technology official on Tuesday reiterating Beijing's opposition to flexible pricing. But the acceptance by relatively conservative steel mills such as Nippon and POSCO shows the growing strength of the trend away from annual pricing. Contract? What contract? The long-term contract worked for 90 years very well for both sides, for both the client and the miner, Agnelli told reporters in Sao Paulo. I think that model that we are proposing and talking about with clients, of quarterly averages, is helpful for us to be able to complete our investment projects. China began buying on the spot market when prices fell below the benchmark when the financial crisis broke out but insisted miners honor the benchmark as spot prices soared. Last year when we thought we had a contract, most of our clients just looked at us and said 'Contract? What contract?' Agnelli said. Vale insists that benchmark prices informally agreed upon last year no longer reflect the reality of supply and demand. Mills argue steel prices are too low and demand is too weak to pass on increased costs of iron ore. China Talks, Chin Risk An acceptance of the aggressive price-hike in Japan and South Korea suggests that price may become a baseline for purchases of iron ore by China, now supplying some 70 percent of the world's iron supply and comprising the bulk of Rio and BHP's sales. We also anticipate that Chinese iron ore prices will settle at least as high, if not higher than other Asian players, said Steel Market Intelligence in a research note. China will likely pay a premium for buying ore given the perceived political risks of doing business there, it added. A Shanghai court on
[ob] Fw: ayo borong INCO sblm telat ...... :)
- Forwarded Message From: sukianto the sukianto_...@yahoo.com To: patrick_aki...@yahoo.com Sent: Thu, March 18, 2010 5:00:22 PM Subject: Fw: ayo borong INCO sblm telat .. :) - Forwarded Message From: sukianto.sukia...@sinarmasforestry.com sukianto.sukia...@sinarmasforestry.com Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 16:35:29 Subject: ayo borong INCO sblm telat .. :) BHP Says Nickel Refinery Shutdown May Last Two Weeks (Update1) http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=emDSukianto BHP Says Nickel Refinery Shutdown May Last Two Weeks (Update1) By Jason Scott March 18 (Bloomberg) -- BHP Billiton Ltd., the world’s biggest mining company, said its Kwinana nickel refinery in Western Australia may not be restarted for two weeks after shutting down on March 15. A lack of hydrogen gas, a key ingredient in the process of refining nickel, caused the shutdown, Amanda Buckley, spokeswoman at the Melbourne-based company, said in a phone interview today. She declined to say whether nickel shipments would be affected. BHP’s Nickel West operations, which include the Kwinana refinery, a smelter in Kalgoorlie and a concentrator at Kambalda, produced 59,400 tons of nickel concentrate in the six months to Dec. 31. Nickel, used to strengthen steel, has more than doubled in London in the past year because of demand from China, the world’s fastest-growing major economy. BHP’s Sydney-traded shares fell 0.5 percent lower to A$43.08 at 1:19 p.m. Sydney time on the Australian stock exchange. The refinery was shut after BHP’s own hydrogen plant at the site “experienced some problems” and alternative sources for the gas weren’t available, Buckley said yesterday. “We’re in the process of designing and constructing a new hydrogen plant at Kwinana, which is scheduled to be completed 2011,” she said today. To contact the reporter on this story: Jason Scottin Perth at jscot...@bloomberg.net. Last Updated: March 17, 2010 22:47 EDT Today Top Buyer ( 18 March 10) ZP Kim Eng 22.419 lot ( Net Buy) DX Bahan 10.274 lot (net Buy) CS Credit Suisse 4.419 lot (Net Buy) DB Deutche Sec 4.386 lot (Net Buy) Good Luck...Resiko tanggung sendiri ya .. Disclaimer on... Get your new Email address! Grab the Email name you've always wanted before someone else does!
Re: [ob] Nickel MINARA jump +8%
Tunggu...sabar...tahun depan juga terbang..mengingat ekonomi Japan, US, terus membaik.. permintaan nickel so pasti juga membaik...bravo.. From: James Arifin james.ari...@gmail.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, December 22, 2009 9:14:55 AM Subject: Re: [ob] Nickel MINARA jump +8% mbah, kok habis wave c masuk ke wave 2 lagi? Apakah maksud wave 2 dlm konteks ini adalah wave 2 dalam correction wave? Kalau iya, gawat dong ketika wave 3 dari correction wave ini terjadi? 2009/12/22 jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id Pak Rei, BD itu tidak bodo, mereka tahu Elliot Wave... Sudah 2 bulan kita ada di wave C dan lagi menunggu Wave C ini berakhir... Jika Wave C berakhir, kita akan masuk Wave 2 dan otomatis BD engga kere lagi Jangan terlalu terOBSESI dengan BD, market bergerak sesuai aturan hukum market yaitu Elliott Wave... Mungkin suatu hari pak Rei, akan percaya dengan Elliott Wave ini. TA yg terbaik untuk long term investor adalah Elliott Wave, dan TIDAK ADA TANDINGANNYA Suatu hari pak Rei akan setuju dengan ini... kita liat aja... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, highwaystar91@ ... wrote: Bandar Antm-Inco lagi kere Mbah... Payah! Sent from my computer of course! -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:38:27 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] Nickel MINARA jump +8% Nickel MINARA jump +8% pagi ini http://finance. yahoo.com/ q/bc?t=5ds=MRE.AXl=onz=lq=lc=INCO.JK%2CANTM. JK
[ob] Recession is Ending Now ( Goldman Sacs Cohen)
Goldman Sachs’s Cohen Says Recession Is Ending ‘Now’ (Update1) Share | Email | Print | A A A By Thomas R. Keene and Lynn Thomasson Aug. 17 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. recession is ending “right now,” said Abby Joseph Cohen, a senior investment strategist at Goldman Sachs Group Inc. The economy may grow by 3 percent in the next couple of quarters and expand by 1.5 percent to 2 percent next year, Cohen said. While consumer spending is likely to rise, it probably won’t increase as fast as at the end of prior periods when the U.S. was emerging from a recession, she said. “Clearly the economy is on the mend,” Cohen said in an interview with Bloomberg Radio. “We do think that profit growth will be more substantial going forward.” Cohen, known for her optimistic forecasts for stocks during the 1990s stock-market rally, was replaced in March 2008 as the bank’s chief forecaster for the U.S. equity market. She predicted in a May 1 interview that the Standard Poor’s 500 Index might jump 20 percent to 1,050 in the next 6 to 12 months. The index climbed 15 percent to 1,010.48 through Aug. 7 before retreating 0.6 percent last week. The SP 500 has rallied 48 percent from a 12-year low on March 9 as 76 percent of companies in the benchmark reported better-than-estimated second quarter results and economic reports showed improvement. Equities fell last week for the first time in five weeks as a drop in consumer confidence fueled concern the steepest rally since the 1930s isn’t justified by economic prospects. So-called fair value for the SP 500 is between 1,050 and 1,100, Cohen said. David Kostin, who replaced Cohen as Goldman Sachs’s chief U.S. market forecaster, estimates the index will end the year at 1,060 and earn $52 a share for 2009. “The bottom line looks pretty good,” she said. “The companies that are still in business are showing that they have pretty good margins.” To contact the reporters on this story: Thomas R. Keene in New York tke...@bloomberg.net; Lynn Thomasson in New York at lthomas...@bloomberg.net. Last Updated: August 17, 2009 09:27 EDT
Re: [ob] BUBBLE IHSG akan pecah ?
Guys..siap2 buat bounce back time..erope mulai hijau neh... ayo borong... --- On Wed, 8/5/09, ferio_ariton...@yahoo.com ferio_ariton...@yahoo.com wrote: From: ferio_ariton...@yahoo.com ferio_ariton...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [ob] BUBBLE IHSG akan pecah ? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 2:22 PM Crash apanya? Minus 2% crash emangnya? Nanti siang jg bounce back palingan.. ferio, Sent from my BlackBerry® From: troyanese Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:13:40 - To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [ob] BUBBLE IHSG akan pecah ? mau crash ya ? wah kalo mau crash ya harus sell now dong. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, I_R_G_7_I ruzli...@.. . wrote: au ah ga jelas lo 2009/8/5 elvira raven elviraraven@ ... SELL ALL... Clear your position all.. disclaimer on --- On *Tue, 8/4/09, Technical Analyst technical.analyst2 1...@...*wrote: From: Technical Analyst technical.analyst2 1...@... Subject: Re: [ob] BUBBLE IHSG akan pecah ? To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 10:42 PM berarti time to buy ya ??? - - *From:* Tommy Jayamudita jayamudita@ gmail. com *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2009 12:17:27 PM *Subject:* Re: [ob] BUBBLE IHSG akan pecah ? *Oversold??? ?* - Original Message - *From:* elvira raven http://mc/compose? to=elviraraven@ ... *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comhttp://mc/compose? to=obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com *Sent:* Wednesday, August 05, 2009 12:03 PM *Subject:* [ob] BUBBLE IHSG akan pecah ? http://streettrader .blogspot. com/ http://streettrader .blogspot. com/ IHSG saat ini memasuki saat2 kritis... indikator2 sudah menyatakan oversold downgrade emerging market, memasuki bulan setan menurut penanggalan china, history yg selalu terjadi crash di bulan agustus.. sebaiknya mulai menjadi pertimbangan untuk mengurangi posisi di stock market... Disclaimer On
[ob] Mohon Analisa AALI + ASII
Dear All, mohon analisa AALI +ASII apakah masih ada potensial upside kenapa agak stuck ? Thks
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Bapepam kapan AR + 30 % di buka
Bener..bener...pejabat BEI dan Bapepam mesti lebih tanggap...jangan selalu bermental pegawai negeri yang telat mikir... From: simon bolenang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar yahoogroups obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; saham yahoogroups [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 2:18:32 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Bapepam kapan AR + 30 % di buka Jangan sampai momentum kenaikan bursa regional yg diatas 7% - 10 % hilang, seharusnya Bapepam cepat tanggap, jangan bengong aja. Buka batas atas AR + 30 % Apa pejabat2nya harus di test IQ EQ. Sebentar lagi di USA mau ganti President, pasti ada perubahan. Saham sudah di bottom, jangan sampai hilang momentum kenaikan untuk ke dua kalinya. Please kerja cepat.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BURSA YANG ANEH.................???!!!
Menurut saya ini karena efek psikologis pemain enggan untuk investasi di bursa saham karena kenaikan hanya 10%. Jika BEI buka Auto rejectnya, mudah2an akan lebih rame yang jual beli dan cepat kembali normal... Ayo kita push Bapepam dan BEI agar cepet dalam pembatasan AR 10% dan dikembalikan normal Mungkin ada orang yang berkepentingan menerapkan AR 10% sehingga dana mereka aman ... From: Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:47:06 AM Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BURSA YANG ANEH.???!!! Memang bener! Ini aja Down +10% kita opening masih naiknya malu2, ngak langsung AR kanan. Cape deh, mau Dow plus brp sih? Kemarin dulu +170 aja bisa bikin opening langsung AR kiri semua. Trus -300, AR kiri lagi lagsung di opening. Sekarang aja masih ada yg AR kiri. Yg masih ijo sedang menuju putih trus merah. IDX tinggal +11. Cape deh, yg punya gawean aja kaga beraksi kayak gini, kita yg irrationally bingung. Susah kalo bursa dikuasai sama orang2 maruk seperti ini. -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com] On Behalf Of qasuaribo Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:22 AM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BURSA YANG ANEH . ???!!! --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Rei highwaystar91@ ... wrote: Dow +10.88%, regional ijo berat kalo kita masih merah suruh tutup aja dan investigasi ada apa di dalam bursa krn sdh keterlaluan dah hehehe Ganti aja namanya bukan BURSA YANG ANEH, tapi. BURSA YANG GOBLOG .setuju ??? 2008/10/29 kangduren [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. yah mau gimana lagi besok regional rebound, BEI merah lagi.. dibilang wajar lagi .. investor bingung lagi daripada buat skenario lagi... keluar biaya lagi... ternyata salah lagi... malu lagi . mending dibuat merah lagi.. :(( salam
Re: [obrolan-bandar] mohon advise ANTM
Guys,kenapa antm mulai gerak padahal harga nikel di LME turun kemarin n INCO tidak bergerak? apakah ada kaitannya dengan Herald? berapa besar impact kalo antm menang terhadap kinerja ANTM, mohon advice para pakar OB..thks - Original Message From: Ricky Wakiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:12:56 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] mohon advise ANTM Kalau menurut chart-nya DE dulu, ANTM gak akan turun di bawah 2.900 lagi. Saham ini masih ada di trend lng term bullish. Mangsudnya, lagi mendaki tapi jalannya terjal banget jadi kecepatannya amat sangat rendah. RW - Original Message - From: Tom DS To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 9:32 PM Subject: [!! SPAM] Re: [obrolan-bandar] mohon advise ANTM Saya terus terang baru mau ngincer ANTM besok kalau belum ketinggalan. Buy on fear my friends Deviden ANTM minimal 30%, tapi rata-rata 35%. EPS dia di 2007 sudah Rp538/share (PER sekitar 5.8x). Artinya yield dari deviden saja sudah 1/5.8 x 30% (itu kalau cuma 30%) = sekitar 5%. Mirip sama nabung di bank, no risk but higher value since it'll give capital gain. Kalau masih di bawah 3200 ANTM masih sangat menarik untuk di collect. T.o.m On 6/23/08, winanjaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: Dear Seniors, ada apa dng ANTM? .. dulu pernah uber2an dng BUMI.. koq sekarang tertinggal jauh.. apakah ada yang bisa berikan advise? .. TIA
Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM last minute
ANTM TERNYATA DIBELI OLEH ML YANG DOWNGRADE JADI 2225/SHARE BERIKUT NILAI BELINYA HARI INI DARI E-BURSA. PERTANDA APAKAH INI? NAMPUNG BARANG MURAH ? Merrill Lynch Indonesia Contact Person Title Address Gedung Bursa Efek Jakarta Lt. 18 Jl. Jend. Sudirman Kav. 52-53 Phone 5150888 Fax 5158678/0939 Code Total Vol (Lot) Avg Price Total Value ANTM 1.538 3.8312.946.137.500 --- Kidod25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ada yg perhatikan ANTM pas last minute?? heran bisa lompat gitu, ada yg borong nih .. ya repotnya soft landing, resesi ga, recovery juga ga ... :) Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM lagi...... cape d.....
bagus dong...jadi ngak ada lg yang ngebom antm...ayo buy semua ...tekanan jual udah berakhir, hore.. - Original Message From: Tazmania Devil [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 9:14:44 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM lagi.. cape d. ML dah jual semua Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Index mining at critical moment
Tenang..ini koreksi normal untuk antm n bumi...karena minyak turun, kabarnya minyak sudah naik sedikit...berikut beritanya... Oil Price Rises US$1.16 per Barrel Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:05:07 StockWatch (Jakarta) - Crude oil price moved downtrend on Thursday (29/11) and in the continued trading on continued trading on NYMEX electronic facility, Globex, at 00:12 New York time (around 12:12 west Indonesia time) the West Texas Intermediate (WTI) crude oil contract for delivery of January 2008, was up US$1.16 per barrel US$91.78 versus the closing on Wednesday (28/11) at US$91.78 per barrel. In Wednesday's (28/11) the trading, the WTI contract for delivery of January 2007 ended down by US$3.80 per barrel at US$90.62 per barrel from the previous day's closing. The contract opened at US$94.95 per barrel and moved within trading range of US$90.40-95.20 per barrel on transaction volume of 266,497 contracts, or 15.2% higher than the previous trading day. Meanwhile, the WTI contract for delivery of February 2008 closed lower by US$3.60 at US$90.03 per barrel after rising at US$94,15 per barrel versus the previous day's closing. The contract opened at US$94.15 per barrel and traded with the lowest price at US$89.95 per barrel on transation volume of 76,763 units of contract, rising by 14.2% versus the previous trading day. (Baso Amir/bud) - Original Message From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:44:21 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Index mining at critical moment Meaning: - Sementara ENGGA JELAS Harga minyak yg turun dari $98 ke $92 membuat bandar engga dapat dukungan market buat bikin rally kecuali bandar nekat nembusin level RESISTEN yaitu Previous HIGH. Jika level RESIS ini engga dtembus maka otomatis akan koreksi dulu untuk nurunin penumpang dan muatan... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, HS handokosatria@ ... wrote: so what does it mean, mbah...? --- jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx- consultant@ wrote: Pagi ini index mining berhasil break PREVIOUS HIGHnya tapi sesudah itu turun lagi... This is a CRITICAL MOMENT for mining sector The RED candle is getting LONGER... _ _ _ _ _ _ __ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo. com/r/hs Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ
Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM 5 RIBU??
Iya kayaknya sih bakalan rebound kenceng neh antam, tinggal tunggu harga komoditas agak naik aja... kalo turun banyak ya beli lagi... - Original Message From: Efendi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 4:25:29 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM 5 RIBU?? ANTM itu kalau turun bareng 100 poin dalam 1-2 hari. Tapi setelah itu melejit 500-700 poin...makanya gak heran meski turun 100 poin pun banyak yg ngincar. Terbukti hari ini TOP Frekuensi... BRAVO ANTM..tunggu seminggu ke depan harganya bakal tembus 5 RIBU. caikos [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: overbought juga masih digemari .. hehehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jos_martino jos_martino@ ... wrote: JUAL..JUAL.. ..Q4nya diprediksi growth turun, dibanding Q3. Untung jangan takabur, Rugi jangan lari.. JM --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Lkmn S lk_manz@ wrote: Silahkan simak chart berikut...ANTM dlm kondisi DIVERGEN waspadalah.. . - - --- Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Info Sekuritas
Lani, temanku sih udah cukup bagus untuk online trading..gw baru mao gabung. tapi ngk tahu jg kalo buat jangka panjang.. tergantung time horizon kalo invest jangka pendek bagus karena kita bisa pasang/amend online n realtime.. - Original Message From: Lani [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2007 12:54:48 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Info Sekuritas Ada yang sudah gabung di Phillip Securities?? Bagus gak seh? Thx Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/index.html
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Disuatu hari yang dingin...
DE, thks for a good insight that you share with us...the problem is how you realied that become an action rgrds, PA - Original Message From: Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2007 11:31:09 AM Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Disuatu hari yang dingin... Oh, you missed the point. That was an illustration, not actual conversation. The point is, stock trading is more like psychological war. Once you get emotional, you lose. The basic principle of stock trading is actually as simple as this - buy low, sell high, which transforms into “buy on fear, sell on greed” Fear and greed are human nature, and it is used by big player to control the market. Then people starts to measure fear and greed by using TA indicators, so we can predict how high is too high, and how low is too low. But since TA is an ART, its result can vary widely. Yesterday, there are signs that people are getting weary of stock market. So, be prepared. Btw, of course the actual conversation is not for public consumption. : ) Regards, DE From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com] On Behalf Of securitas Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 10:50 AM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Disuatu hari yang dingin... DE, dari pembicaraan ini kelihatannya MR XX ini sepertinya penguasa bursa... dari cara ngomong nya keliatannya duitnya kagak sampe 1 T tuh... paling yang dibandarin cuma saham gorengan... Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433
Re: [obrolan-bandar] SS AKRA
Mr Boen..AKRA SS nya 1 :5, banyak jg tuh naiknya.. - Original Message From: Mr. Boen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 10:30:05 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] SS AKRA ada yang tau gak SS AKRA perbandingannya berapa ya? thanks infonya. regards. Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Pak Sudes, ANTM, INCO, TINS....Re: IRC akan beri nilai tambah USD 8 Milyar
Guys..ada yang tahu ngak neh perkembangan Sgro? labanya kabarnya negatif ? bener ngak sih ? gua nyangkut di 3200 neh...pls infonya..thks - Original Message From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 1:57:40 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Pak Sudes, ANTM, INCO, TINSRe: IRC akan beri nilai tambah USD 8 Milyar Ternyata pak Sudes selain religius juga suka filsafat ... God bless you ALWAYS... embah tambahin ALWAYS supaya EFISIEN, jadi udah termasuk buat besok dan seterusnya.. . hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Sudeswanto samsudesyang@ ... wrote: teknikal suka dilawan bandar...dan mudah bagi bandar untuk mempermainkan teknikal harian... mendingan pake fundamental aja, asalkan pondasi kuat, biar terkena badai dan gempa, akan tetap kuat seperti kata pepatah : cen jin bu pha huo (emas murni tidak takut api) emas murni biar dibakar oleh api, tetep aja emas... ^^ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz
