[ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects
Nahhh ini dia berita yg ditunggu2 yang ga punya barang Untuk yg punya barang Syermm Untung hari senin libur ya Coba buka tebak sendiri dehh Aug. 14 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks fell for the first time in three days on concern that the rally in the Standard Poor’s 500 Index to a 10-month high has outpaced the prospects for the economy’s recovery. Boeing Co., the world’s second largest commercial airplane manufacturer, led declines in the Dow Jones Industrial Average after saying it found flaws in 23 of its 787 Dreamliners. Alcoa Inc., 3M Co. and Travelers Cos. also slumped as commodity, financial and industrial shares posted the biggest declines. “A lot of people think the market has come up more than enough and it needs to rest,” said Charles Knott, chief investment officer at Knott Capital Management in Exton, Pennsylvania, who oversees about $550 million. “We’ve got a pretty sobering outlook and are concerned about the economy on a long-term basis. We think there’s neither the will power nor the means to fully finance that type of V shape recovery.” The Standard Poor’s 500 Index slipped 0.4 percent to 1,008.84 at 9:41 a.m. in New York. The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 39.98 points, or 0.4 percent, to 9,358. European and Asian shares advanced. U.S. stocks are “dramatically overpriced” because the fallout from the financial crisis will continue to hurt consumer spending, said David Tice, Federated Investors Inc.’s chief portfolio strategist for bear markets. Tice, who predicts that the SP 500 will eventually slump to 400, said he would add to short positions if the market goes much higher. ‘Need to Be Realistic’ “I’d love for prosperity to return, unfortunately I think you need to be realistic and it takes time to work off these excesses” from a bubble in credit markets, Tice said in an interview with Bloomberg Television. Equities declined even after industrial production in the U.S. rose for the first time in nine months after mid-year retooling at automakers and as a federal “cash-for-clunkers” program fueled demand for cars. The 0.5 percent increase in output at manufacturers, mines and utilities was more than forecast, Federal Reserve figures showed. Stocks gained yesterday after investor John Paulson’s hedge fund bought stakes in banks, helping offset an unexpected slump in retail sales. The SP 500 is little changed on the week after climbing for the last four. A 50 percent rebound from a 12-year low on March 9 left the SP 500 trading at 18.6 times the profits of its companies on Aug. 7, the highest valuation since 2004, according to weekly Bloomberg data. Earnings Season Per-share earnings topped analysts’ estimates by 10 percent on average for the companies in the SP 500 that have released results since June 17, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Profits slumped about 30 percent in the period, a record eighth straight quarter of falling earnings. Instead of a so-called New Normal of subdued growth, the U.S. may be heading for a robust recovery. The worst recession since the 1930s has created a reservoir of demand that will buoy the economy, say a growing number of economists led by James Glassman at JPMorgan Chase Co., former Fed Governor Laurence Meyer and Stephen Stanley at RBS Securities Inc. Boeing said it stopped work more than a month ago on two sections for the 787 Dreamliner after flaws were found on 23 airplanes. The 787 was almost two years behind its initial May 2008 first-delivery target before the latest delay. Shares of the second-biggest defense contractor fell 3.1 percent to $45.19. To contact the reporter on this story: Whitney Kisling in New York at wkisl...@bloomberg.net . === Sent from Bloomberg for Blackberry. Download it from the Blackberry App World! + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:obrolan-bandar-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: obrolan-bandar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects
ini juga yg ane tunggu2 nich...yuuuk siapkan peluru, missile, roket, peluru kendali untuk BOW !! On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@yahoo.com wrote: Nahhh ini dia berita yg ditunggu2 yang ga punya barang Untuk yg punya barang Syermm Untung hari senin libur ya Coba buka tebak sendiri dehh Aug. 14 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks fell for the first time in three days on concern that the rally in the Standard Poor’s 500 Index to a 10-month high has outpaced the prospects for the economy’s recovery. Boeing Co., the world’s second largest commercial airplane manufacturer, led declines in the Dow Jones Industrial Average after saying it found flaws in 23 of its 787 Dreamliners. Alcoa Inc., 3M Co. and Travelers Cos. also slumped as commodity, financial and industrial shares posted the biggest declines. “A lot of people think the market has come up more than enough and it needs to rest,” said Charles Knott, chief investment officer at Knott Capital Management in Exton, Pennsylvania, who oversees about $550 million. “We’ve got a pretty sobering outlook and are concerned about the economy on a long-term basis. We think there’s neither the will power nor the means to fully finance that type of V shape recovery.” The Standard Poor’s 500 Index slipped 0.4 percent to 1,008.84 at 9:41 a.m. in New York. The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 39.98 points, or 0.4 percent, to 9,358. European and Asian shares advanced. U.S. stocks are “dramatically overpriced” because the fallout from the financial crisis will continue to hurt consumer spending, said David Tice, Federated Investors Inc.’s chief portfolio strategist for bear markets. Tice, who predicts that the SP 500 will eventually slump to 400, said he would add to short positions if the market goes much higher. ‘Need to Be Realistic’ “I’d love for prosperity to return, unfortunately I think you need to be realistic and it takes time to work off these excesses” from a bubble in credit markets, Tice said in an interview with Bloomberg Television. Equities declined even after industrial production in the U.S. rose for the first time in nine months after mid-year retooling at automakers and as a federal “cash-for-clunkers” program fueled demand for cars. The 0.5 percent increase in output at manufacturers, mines and utilities was more than forecast, Federal Reserve figures showed. Stocks gained yesterday after investor John Paulson’s hedge fund bought stakes in banks, helping offset an unexpected slump in retail sales. The SP 500 is little changed on the week after climbing for the last four. A 50 percent rebound from a 12-year low on March 9 left the SP 500 trading at 18.6 times the profits of its companies on Aug. 7, the highest valuation since 2004, according to weekly Bloomberg data. Earnings Season Per-share earnings topped analysts’ estimates by 10 percent on average for the companies in the SP 500 that have released results since June 17, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Profits slumped about 30 percent in the period, a record eighth straight quarter of falling earnings. Instead of a so-called New Normal of subdued growth, the U.S. may be heading for a robust recovery. The worst recession since the 1930s has created a reservoir of demand that will buoy the economy, say a growing number of economists led by James Glassman at JPMorgan Chase Co., former Fed Governor Laurence Meyer and Stephen Stanley at RBS Securities Inc. Boeing said it stopped work more than a month ago on two sections for the 787 Dreamliner after flaws were found on 23 airplanes. The 787 was almost two years behind its initial May 2008 first-delivery target before the latest delay. Shares of the second-biggest defense contractor fell 3.1 percent to $45.19. To contact the reporter on this story: Whitney Kisling in New York at wkisl...@bloomberg.net . === Sent from Bloomberg for Blackberry. Download it from the Blackberry App World! + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects
Memang Senin libut, selasa index otomatis immune ya pak Thomas? hehehe Dari yg punya barang :D On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@yahoo.com wrote: Nahhh ini dia berita yg ditunggu2 yang ga punya barang Untuk yg punya barang Syermm Untung hari senin libur ya Coba buka tebak sendiri dehh Aug. 14 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks fell for the first time in three days on concern that the rally in the Standard Poor’s 500 Index to a 10-month high has outpaced the prospects for the economy’s recovery. Boeing Co., the world’s second largest commercial airplane manufacturer, led declines in the Dow Jones Industrial Average after saying it found flaws in 23 of its 787 Dreamliners. Alcoa Inc., 3M Co. and Travelers Cos. also slumped as commodity, financial and industrial shares posted the biggest declines. “A lot of people think the market has come up more than enough and it needs to rest,” said Charles Knott, chief investment officer at Knott Capital Management in Exton, Pennsylvania, who oversees about $550 million. “We’ve got a pretty sobering outlook and are concerned about the economy on a long-term basis. We think there’s neither the will power nor the means to fully finance that type of V shape recovery.” The Standard Poor’s 500 Index slipped 0.4 percent to 1,008.84 at 9:41 a.m. in New York. The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 39.98 points, or 0.4 percent, to 9,358. European and Asian shares advanced. U.S. stocks are “dramatically overpriced” because the fallout from the financial crisis will continue to hurt consumer spending, said David Tice, Federated Investors Inc.’s chief portfolio strategist for bear markets. Tice, who predicts that the SP 500 will eventually slump to 400, said he would add to short positions if the market goes much higher. ‘Need to Be Realistic’ “I’d love for prosperity to return, unfortunately I think you need to be realistic and it takes time to work off these excesses” from a bubble in credit markets, Tice said in an interview with Bloomberg Television. Equities declined even after industrial production in the U.S. rose for the first time in nine months after mid-year retooling at automakers and as a federal “cash-for-clunkers” program fueled demand for cars. The 0.5 percent increase in output at manufacturers, mines and utilities was more than forecast, Federal Reserve figures showed. Stocks gained yesterday after investor John Paulson’s hedge fund bought stakes in banks, helping offset an unexpected slump in retail sales. The SP 500 is little changed on the week after climbing for the last four. A 50 percent rebound from a 12-year low on March 9 left the SP 500 trading at 18.6 times the profits of its companies on Aug. 7, the highest valuation since 2004, according to weekly Bloomberg data. Earnings Season Per-share earnings topped analysts’ estimates by 10 percent on average for the companies in the SP 500 that have released results since June 17, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Profits slumped about 30 percent in the period, a record eighth straight quarter of falling earnings. Instead of a so-called New Normal of subdued growth, the U.S. may be heading for a robust recovery. The worst recession since the 1930s has created a reservoir of demand that will buoy the economy, say a growing number of economists led by James Glassman at JPMorgan Chase Co., former Fed Governor Laurence Meyer and Stephen Stanley at RBS Securities Inc. Boeing said it stopped work more than a month ago on two sections for the 787 Dreamliner after flaws were found on 23 airplanes. The 787 was almost two years behind its initial May 2008 first-delivery target before the latest delay. Shares of the second-biggest defense contractor fell 3.1 percent to $45.19. To contact the reporter on this story: Whitney Kisling in New York at wkisl...@bloomberg.net . === Sent from Bloomberg for Blackberry. Download it from the Blackberry App World! + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects
tenang Hari senin DOW +100 Koalisi El + Arto belum cukup yach? --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Henry Liem hsantos...@gmail.com wrote: From: Henry Liem hsantos...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:01 PM ini juga yg ane tunggu2 nich...yuuuk siapkan peluru, missile, roket, peluru kendali untuk BOW !! On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2000@ yahoo.com wrote: Nahhh ini dia berita yg ditunggu2 yang ga punya barang Untuk yg punya barang Syermm Untung hari senin libur ya Coba buka tebak sendiri dehh Aug. 14 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks fell for the first time in three days on concern that the rally in the Standard Poor’s 500 Index to a 10-month high has outpaced the prospects for the economy’s recovery. Boeing Co., the world’s second largest commercial airplane manufacturer, led declines in the Dow Jones Industrial Average after saying it found flaws in 23 of its 787 Dreamliners. Alcoa Inc., 3M Co. and Travelers Cos. also slumped as commodity, financial and industrial shares posted the biggest declines. “A lot of people think the market has come up more than enough and it needs to rest,” said Charles Knott, chief investment officer at Knott Capital Management in Exton, Pennsylvania, who oversees about $550 million. “We’ve got a pretty sobering outlook and are concerned about the economy on a long-term basis. We think there’s neither the will power nor the means to fully finance that type of V shape recovery.” The Standard Poor’s 500 Index slipped 0.4 percent to 1,008.84 at 9:41 a.m. in New York. The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 39.98 points, or 0.4 percent, to 9,358. European and Asian shares advanced. U.S. stocks are “dramatically overpriced” because the fallout from the financial crisis will continue to hurt consumer spending, said David Tice, Federated Investors Inc.’s chief portfolio strategist for bear markets. Tice, who predicts that the SP 500 will eventually slump to 400, said he would add to short positions if the market goes much higher. ‘Need to Be Realistic’ “I’d love for prosperity to return, unfortunately I think you need to be realistic and it takes time to work off these excesses” from a bubble in credit markets, Tice said in an interview with Bloomberg Television. Equities declined even after industrial production in the U.S. rose for the first time in nine months after mid-year retooling at automakers and as a federal “cash-for-clunkers” program fueled demand for cars. The 0.5 percent increase in output at manufacturers, mines and utilities was more than forecast, Federal Reserve figures showed. Stocks gained yesterday after investor John Paulson’s hedge fund bought stakes in banks, helping offset an unexpected slump in retail sales. The SP 500 is little changed on the week after climbing for the last four. A 50 percent rebound from a 12-year low on March 9 left the SP 500 trading at 18.6 times the profits of its companies on Aug. 7, the highest valuation since 2004, according to weekly Bloomberg data. Earnings Season Per-share earnings topped analysts’ estimates by 10 percent on average for the companies in the SP 500 that have released results since June 17, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Profits slumped about 30 percent in the period, a record eighth straight quarter of falling earnings. Instead of a so-called New Normal of subdued growth, the U.S. may be heading for a robust recovery. The worst recession since the 1930s has created a reservoir of demand that will buoy the economy, say a growing number of economists led by James Glassman at JPMorgan Chase Co., former Fed Governor Laurence Meyer and Stephen Stanley at RBS Securities Inc. Boeing said it stopped work more than a month ago on two sections for the 787 Dreamliner after flaws were found on 23 airplanes. The 787 was almost two years behind its initial May 2008 first-delivery target before the latest delay. Shares of the second-biggest defense contractor fell 3.1 percent to $45.19. To contact the reporter on this story: Whitney Kisling in New York at wkisl...@bloomberg. net . === Sent from Bloomberg for Blackberry. Download it from the Blackberry App World! - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/obrolan- bandar/ Individual Email | Traditional http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/obrolan- bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) mailto:obrolan-bandar- dig...@yahoogrou ps.com mailto:obrolan-bandar- fullfeatured@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar
Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects
Sama pak, saya juga pegang barang. Kalo dibawah turun... Yahh mau buat apa, kan kite2 cuma retail.. Moga2 si B itu bisa jadi harapn terakhir. Mbah nihh yang kompeten untuk jawab. Kalo kata pak peter alimin tadi... Disambung dengan dow yg minus merah ini, sapa tau ML udah bisa prediksi bahwa akan ada something happen... Makanya last minutes buang barang ga karuan. Mungkin sedikit jelas kalo puzzle tadi sore digabungkan dengan dow merah malam ini. But who knows... Sapa tau cece el, ama koko arto mau nari Kalo tetep turun.. At least kita nyangkut rame2 -Original Message- From: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:52:10 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects Memang Senin libut, selasa index otomatis immune ya pak Thomas? hehehe Dari yg punya barang :D On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@yahoo.com wrote: Nahhh ini dia berita yg ditunggu2 yang ga punya barang Untuk yg punya barang Syermm Untung hari senin libur ya Coba buka tebak sendiri dehh Aug. 14 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks fell for the first time in three days on concern that the rally in the Standard Poor’s 500 Index to a 10-month high has outpaced the prospects for the economy’s recovery. Boeing Co., the world’s second largest commercial airplane manufacturer, led declines in the Dow Jones Industrial Average after saying it found flaws in 23 of its 787 Dreamliners. Alcoa Inc., 3M Co. and Travelers Cos. also slumped as commodity, financial and industrial shares posted the biggest declines. “A lot of people think the market has come up more than enough and it needs to rest,” said Charles Knott, chief investment officer at Knott Capital Management in Exton, Pennsylvania, who oversees about $550 million. “We’ve got a pretty sobering outlook and are concerned about the economy on a long-term basis. We think there’s neither the will power nor the means to fully finance that type of V shape recovery.” The Standard Poor’s 500 Index slipped 0.4 percent to 1,008.84 at 9:41 a.m. in New York. The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 39.98 points, or 0.4 percent, to 9,358. European and Asian shares advanced. U.S. stocks are “dramatically overpriced” because the fallout from the financial crisis will continue to hurt consumer spending, said David Tice, Federated Investors Inc.’s chief portfolio strategist for bear markets. Tice, who predicts that the SP 500 will eventually slump to 400, said he would add to short positions if the market goes much higher. ‘Need to Be Realistic’ “I’d love for prosperity to return, unfortunately I think you need to be realistic and it takes time to work off these excesses” from a bubble in credit markets, Tice said in an interview with Bloomberg Television. Equities declined even after industrial production in the U.S. rose for the first time in nine months after mid-year retooling at automakers and as a federal “cash-for-clunkers” program fueled demand for cars. The 0.5 percent increase in output at manufacturers, mines and utilities was more than forecast, Federal Reserve figures showed. Stocks gained yesterday after investor John Paulson’s hedge fund bought stakes in banks, helping offset an unexpected slump in retail sales. The SP 500 is little changed on the week after climbing for the last four. A 50 percent rebound from a 12-year low on March 9 left the SP 500 trading at 18.6 times the profits of its companies on Aug. 7, the highest valuation since 2004, according to weekly Bloomberg data. Earnings Season Per-share earnings topped analysts’ estimates by 10 percent on average for the companies in the SP 500 that have released results since June 17, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Profits slumped about 30 percent in the period, a record eighth straight quarter of falling earnings. Instead of a so-called New Normal of subdued growth, the U.S. may be heading for a robust recovery. The worst recession since the 1930s has created a reservoir of demand that will buoy the economy, say a growing number of economists led by James Glassman at JPMorgan Chase Co., former Fed Governor Laurence Meyer and Stephen Stanley at RBS Securities Inc. Boeing said it stopped work more than a month ago on two sections for the 787 Dreamliner after flaws were found on 23 airplanes. The 787 was almost two years behind its initial May 2008 first-delivery target before the latest delay. Shares of the second-biggest defense contractor fell 3.1 percent to $45.19. To contact the reporter on this story: Whitney Kisling in New York at wkisl...@bloomberg.net . === Sent from Bloomberg for Blackberry. Download it from the Blackberry App World! + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama
Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects
Aduuhh .. Cape bener jadi trader :( Kena gocek melulu Kali ini invest aja deh .. .. mau naik mau nggak ... biar bandar aja yang nentuin ... Walau beli diatas .. biar aja ... Toh sepertinya semua pada sepakat ke 3000 kan ? Untuk Pak Rei ... kali ini saya tidak akan jual barang saya deh.. hehehehehe Bener deh Pak :)
Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects
kl newbie boleh brpendapat, pimpco's (see cnbc.com news for detail) knott's(bloomberg.com), both r looking for even more cheaper price as they mis-calculated how fast d economic can recover. To estimate SP's will go down to 400 is out of d question. I agree with 'The V shape' is signalling too fast n too optimistic recovery, i prefer 'U shape' or maybe sin x/cos x(tan x) shape :p D economic wont b going to slump n reach its 2nd lowest as many will b @ stakes, including china's big money investment on d US's , not including all d US Gov's economic stimulus. Keep in mind that US banks major investment funds that have been helped, r already starting to pay back gov's industries output r already start increase instead of having slower decrease, that's a basic economic recovery signal. So just keep on BOW, we'll reach at least @ 2700-2900 at end of 2009. On 8/14/09, D0N Qicot o5ana_indone...@yahoo.com wrote: tenang Hari senin DOW +100 Koalisi El + Arto belum cukup yach? --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Henry Liem hsantos...@gmail.com wrote: From: Henry Liem hsantos...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:01 PM ini juga yg ane tunggu2 nich...yuuuk siapkan peluru, missile, roket, peluru kendali untuk BOW !! On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2000@ yahoo.com wrote: Nahhh ini dia berita yg ditunggu2 yang ga punya barang Untuk yg punya barang Syermm Untung hari senin libur ya Coba buka tebak sendiri dehh Aug. 14 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks fell for the first time in three days on concern that the rally in the Standard Poor’s 500 Index to a 10-month high has outpaced the prospects for the economy’s recovery. Boeing Co., the world’s second largest commercial airplane manufacturer, led declines in the Dow Jones Industrial Average after saying it found flaws in 23 of its 787 Dreamliners. Alcoa Inc., 3M Co. and Travelers Cos. also slumped as commodity, financial and industrial shares posted the biggest declines. “A lot of people think the market has come up more than enough and it needs to rest,” said Charles Knott, chief investment officer at Knott Capital Management in Exton, Pennsylvania, who oversees about $550 million. “We’ve got a pretty sobering outlook and are concerned about the economy on a long-term basis. We think there’s neither the will power nor the means to fully finance that type of V shape recovery.” The Standard Poor’s 500 Index slipped 0.4 percent to 1,008.84 at 9:41 a.m. in New York. The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 39.98 points, or 0.4 percent, to 9,358. European and Asian shares advanced. U.S. stocks are “dramatically overpriced” because the fallout from the financial crisis will continue to hurt consumer spending, said David Tice, Federated Investors Inc.’s chief portfolio strategist for bear markets. Tice, who predicts that the SP 500 will eventually slump to 400, said he would add to short positions if the market goes much higher. ‘Need to Be Realistic’ “I’d love for prosperity to return, unfortunately I think you need to be realistic and it takes time to work off these excesses” from a bubble in credit markets, Tice said in an interview with Bloomberg Television. Equities declined even after industrial production in the U.S. rose for the first time in nine months after mid-year retooling at automakers and as a federal “cash-for-clunkers” program fueled demand for cars. The 0.5 percent increase in output at manufacturers, mines and utilities was more than forecast, Federal Reserve figures showed. Stocks gained yesterday after investor John Paulson’s hedge fund bought stakes in banks, helping offset an unexpected slump in retail sales. The SP 500 is little changed on the week after climbing for the last four. A 50 percent rebound from a 12-year low on March 9 left the SP 500 trading at 18.6 times the profits of its companies on Aug. 7, the highest valuation since 2004, according to weekly Bloomberg data. Earnings Season Per-share earnings topped analysts’ estimates by 10 percent on average for the companies in the SP 500 that have released results since June 17, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Profits slumped about 30 percent in the period, a record eighth straight quarter of falling earnings. Instead of a so-called New Normal of subdued growth, the U.S. may be heading for a robust recovery. The worst recession since the 1930s has created a reservoir of demand that will buoy the economy, say a growing number of economists led by James Glassman at JPMorgan Chase Co., former Fed Governor Laurence Meyer and Stephen Stanley at RBS Securities Inc. Boeing said it stopped work more than a month ago on two sections
Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects
Waaahhh ... ini sih bukan pendapat newbie .. hehehe Anda sudah sangat berpengalaman Senior Henry Liem .. :) :) :) On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Henry Liem hsantos...@gmail.com wrote: kl newbie boleh brpendapat, pimpco's (see cnbc.com news for detail) knott's(bloomberg.com), both r looking for even more cheaper price as they mis-calculated how fast d economic can recover. To estimate SP's will go down to 400 is out of d question. I agree with 'The V shape' is signalling too fast n too optimistic recovery, i prefer 'U shape' or maybe sin x/cos x(tan x) shape :p D economic wont b going to slump n reach its 2nd lowest as many will b @ stakes, including china's big money investment on d US's , not including all d US Gov's economic stimulus. Keep in mind that US banks major investment funds that have been helped, r already starting to pay back gov's industries output r already start increase instead of having slower decrease, that's a basic economic recovery signal. So just keep on BOW, we'll reach at least @ 2700-2900 at end of 2009. On 8/14/09, D0N Qicot o5ana_indone...@yahoo.com wrote: tenang Hari senin DOW +100 Koalisi El + Arto belum cukup yach? --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Henry Liem hsantos...@gmail.com wrote: From: Henry Liem hsantos...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:01 PM ini juga yg ane tunggu2 nich...yuuuk siapkan peluru, missile, roket, peluru kendali untuk BOW !! On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2000@ yahoo.com wrote: Nahhh ini dia berita yg ditunggu2 yang ga punya barang Untuk yg punya barang Syermm Untung hari senin libur ya Coba buka tebak sendiri dehh Aug. 14 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks fell for the first time in three days on concern that the rally in the Standard Poor’s 500 Index to a 10-month high has outpaced the prospects for the economy’s recovery. Boeing Co., the world’s second largest commercial airplane manufacturer, led declines in the Dow Jones Industrial Average after saying it found flaws in 23 of its 787 Dreamliners. Alcoa Inc., 3M Co. and Travelers Cos. also slumped as commodity, financial and industrial shares posted the biggest declines. “A lot of people think the market has come up more than enough and it needs to rest,” said Charles Knott, chief investment officer at Knott Capital Management in Exton, Pennsylvania, who oversees about $550 million. “We’ve got a pretty sobering outlook and are concerned about the economy on a long-term basis. We think there’s neither the will power nor the means to fully finance that type of V shape recovery.” The Standard Poor’s 500 Index slipped 0.4 percent to 1,008.84 at 9:41 a.m. in New York. The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 39.98 points, or 0.4 percent, to 9,358. European and Asian shares advanced. U.S. stocks are “dramatically overpriced” because the fallout from the financial crisis will continue to hurt consumer spending, said David Tice, Federated Investors Inc.’s chief portfolio strategist for bear markets. Tice, who predicts that the SP 500 will eventually slump to 400, said he would add to short positions if the market goes much higher. ‘Need to Be Realistic’ “I’d love for prosperity to return, unfortunately I think you need to be realistic and it takes time to work off these excesses” from a bubble in credit markets, Tice said in an interview with Bloomberg Television. Equities declined even after industrial production in the U.S. rose for the first time in nine months after mid-year retooling at automakers and as a federal “cash-for-clunkers” program fueled demand for cars. The 0.5 percent increase in output at manufacturers, mines and utilities was more than forecast, Federal Reserve figures showed. Stocks gained yesterday after investor John Paulson’s hedge fund bought stakes in banks, helping offset an unexpected slump in retail sales. The SP 500 is little changed on the week after climbing for the last four. A 50 percent rebound from a 12-year low on March 9 left the SP 500 trading at 18.6 times the profits of its companies on Aug. 7, the highest valuation since 2004, according to weekly Bloomberg data. Earnings Season Per-share earnings topped analysts’ estimates by 10 percent on average for the companies in the SP 500 that have released results since June 17, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Profits slumped about 30 percent in the period, a record eighth straight quarter of falling earnings. Instead of a so-called New Normal of subdued growth, the U.S. may be heading
Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects
S7 PD aja Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: D0N Qicot o5ana_indone...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 08:00:12 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects tenang Hari senin DOW +100 Koalisi El + Arto belum cukup yach? --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Henry Liem hsantos...@gmail.com wrote: From: Henry Liem hsantos...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:01 PM ini juga yg ane tunggu2 nich...yuuuk siapkan peluru, missile, roket, peluru kendali untuk BOW !! On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2000@ yahoo.com wrote: Nahhh ini dia berita yg ditunggu2 yang ga punya barang Untuk yg punya barang Syermm Untung hari senin libur ya Coba buka tebak sendiri dehh Aug. 14 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks fell for the first time in three days on concern that the rally in the Standard Poor’s 500 Index to a 10-month high has outpaced the prospects for the economy’s recovery. Boeing Co., the world’s second largest commercial airplane manufacturer, led declines in the Dow Jones Industrial Average after saying it found flaws in 23 of its 787 Dreamliners. Alcoa Inc., 3M Co. and Travelers Cos. also slumped as commodity, financial and industrial shares posted the biggest declines. “A lot of people think the market has come up more than enough and it needs to rest,” said Charles Knott, chief investment officer at Knott Capital Management in Exton, Pennsylvania, who oversees about $550 million. “We’ve got a pretty sobering outlook and are concerned about the economy on a long-term basis. We think there’s neither the will power nor the means to fully finance that type of V shape recovery.” The Standard Poor’s 500 Index slipped 0.4 percent to 1,008.84 at 9:41 a.m. in New York. The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 39.98 points, or 0.4 percent, to 9,358. European and Asian shares advanced. U.S. stocks are “dramatically overpriced” because the fallout from the financial crisis will continue to hurt consumer spending, said David Tice, Federated Investors Inc.’s chief portfolio strategist for bear markets. Tice, who predicts that the SP 500 will eventually slump to 400, said he would add to short positions if the market goes much higher. ‘Need to Be Realistic’ “I’d love for prosperity to return, unfortunately I think you need to be realistic and it takes time to work off these excesses” from a bubble in credit markets, Tice said in an interview with Bloomberg Television. Equities declined even after industrial production in the U.S. rose for the first time in nine months after mid-year retooling at automakers and as a federal “cash-for-clunkers” program fueled demand for cars. The 0.5 percent increase in output at manufacturers, mines and utilities was more than forecast, Federal Reserve figures showed. Stocks gained yesterday after investor John Paulson’s hedge fund bought stakes in banks, helping offset an unexpected slump in retail sales. The SP 500 is little changed on the week after climbing for the last four. A 50 percent rebound from a 12-year low on March 9 left the SP 500 trading at 18.6 times the profits of its companies on Aug. 7, the highest valuation since 2004, according to weekly Bloomberg data. Earnings Season Per-share earnings topped analysts’ estimates by 10 percent on average for the companies in the SP 500 that have released results since June 17, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Profits slumped about 30 percent in the period, a record eighth straight quarter of falling earnings. Instead of a so-called New Normal of subdued growth, the U.S. may be heading for a robust recovery. The worst recession since the 1930s has created a reservoir of demand that will buoy the economy, say a growing number of economists led by James Glassman at JPMorgan Chase Co., former Fed Governor Laurence Meyer and Stephen Stanley at RBS Securities Inc. Boeing said it stopped work more than a month ago on two sections for the 787 Dreamliner after flaws were found on 23 airplanes. The 787 was almost two years behind its initial May 2008 first-delivery target before the latest delay. Shares of the second-biggest defense contractor fell 3.1 percent to $45.19. To contact the reporter on this story: Whitney Kisling in New York at wkisl...@bloomberg. net . === Sent from Bloomberg for Blackberry. Download it from the Blackberry App World! - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links http://groups. yahoo.com/ group
Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects
Makanya pak...let your money work for you :-)Beli pas koreksi besar, trus ride profit aja...cape keluar masuk tapi itu saya doang lho...kalo yg jago2 trading (tahu kan siapa saja di sini) mah malah nyari wave terus buat surf :-) 2009/8/14 Febry Hariyannugraha febry.hariyannugr...@gmail.com Aduuhh .. Cape bener jadi trader :( Kena gocek melulu Kali ini invest aja deh .. .. mau naik mau nggak ... biar bandar aja yang nentuin ... Walau beli diatas .. biar aja ... Toh sepertinya semua pada sepakat ke 3000 kan ? Untuk Pak Rei ... kali ini saya tidak akan jual barang saya deh.. hehehehehe Bener deh Pak :)
Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects
Iya pak, tenang aja lah. Inpes boss, inpess... :-)) On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@yahoo.com wrote: Sama pak, saya juga pegang barang. Kalo dibawah turun... Yahh mau buat apa, kan kite2 cuma retail.. Moga2 si B itu bisa jadi harapn terakhir. Mbah nihh yang kompeten untuk jawab. Kalo kata pak peter alimin tadi... Disambung dengan dow yg minus merah ini, sapa tau ML udah bisa prediksi bahwa akan ada something happen... Makanya last minutes buang barang ga karuan. Mungkin sedikit jelas kalo puzzle tadi sore digabungkan dengan dow merah malam ini. But who knows... Sapa tau cece el, ama koko arto mau nari Kalo tetep turun.. At least kita nyangkut rame2 -- *From*: Rei *Date*: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:52:10 +0700 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects Memang Senin libut, selasa index otomatis immune ya pak Thomas? hehehe Dari yg punya barang :D On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@yahoo.com wrote: Nahhh ini dia berita yg ditunggu2 yang ga punya barang Untuk yg punya barang Syermm Untung hari senin libur ya Coba buka tebak sendiri dehh Aug. 14 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks fell for the first time in three days on concern that the rally in the Standard Poor’s 500 Index to a 10-month high has outpaced the prospects for the economy’s recovery. Boeing Co., the world’s second largest commercial airplane manufacturer, led declines in the Dow Jones Industrial Average after saying it found flaws in 23 of its 787 Dreamliners. Alcoa Inc., 3M Co. and Travelers Cos. also slumped as commodity, financial and industrial shares posted the biggest declines. “A lot of people think the market has come up more than enough and it needs to rest,” said Charles Knott, chief investment officer at Knott Capital Management in Exton, Pennsylvania, who oversees about $550 million. “We’ve got a pretty sobering outlook and are concerned about the economy on a long-term basis. We think there’s neither the will power nor the means to fully finance that type of V shape recovery.” The Standard Poor’s 500 Index slipped 0.4 percent to 1,008.84 at 9:41 a.m. in New York. The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 39.98 points, or 0.4 percent, to 9,358. European and Asian shares advanced. U.S. stocks are “dramatically overpriced” because the fallout from the financial crisis will continue to hurt consumer spending, said David Tice, Federated Investors Inc.’s chief portfolio strategist for bear markets. Tice, who predicts that the SP 500 will eventually slump to 400, said he would add to short positions if the market goes much higher. ‘Need to Be Realistic’ “I’d love for prosperity to return, unfortunately I think you need to be realistic and it takes time to work off these excesses” from a bubble in credit markets, Tice said in an interview with Bloomberg Television. Equities declined even after industrial production in the U.S. rose for the first time in nine months after mid-year retooling at automakers and as a federal “cash-for-clunkers” program fueled demand for cars. The 0.5 percent increase in output at manufacturers, mines and utilities was more than forecast, Federal Reserve figures showed. Stocks gained yesterday after investor John Paulson’s hedge fund bought stakes in banks, helping offset an unexpected slump in retail sales. The SP 500 is little changed on the week after climbing for the last four. A 50 percent rebound from a 12-year low on March 9 left the SP 500 trading at 18.6 times the profits of its companies on Aug. 7, the highest valuation since 2004, according to weekly Bloomberg data. Earnings Season Per-share earnings topped analysts’ estimates by 10 percent on average for the companies in the SP 500 that have released results since June 17, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Profits slumped about 30 percent in the period, a record eighth straight quarter of falling earnings. Instead of a so-called New Normal of subdued growth, the U.S. may be heading for a robust recovery. The worst recession since the 1930s has created a reservoir of demand that will buoy the economy, say a growing number of economists led by James Glassman at JPMorgan Chase Co., former Fed Governor Laurence Meyer and Stephen Stanley at RBS Securities Inc. Boeing said it stopped work more than a month ago on two sections for the 787 Dreamliner after flaws were found on 23 airplanes. The 787 was almost two years behind its initial May 2008 first-delivery target before the latest delay. Shares of the second-biggest defense contractor fell 3.1 percent to $45.19. To contact the reporter on this story: Whitney Kisling in New York at wkisl...@bloomberg.net . === Sent from Bloomberg for Blackberry. Download
Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects
Great Good signal..saat trader frustasi dan jadi investor :D gak perlu lihat chart saya sudah tahu ascending wedge sudah terbentuk di beberapa saham :D 2009/8/15 Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com Makanya pak...let your money work for you :-) Beli pas koreksi besar, trus ride profit aja...cape keluar masuk tapi itu saya doang lho...kalo yg jago2 trading (tahu kan siapa saja di sini) mah malah nyari wave terus buat surf :-) 2009/8/14 Febry Hariyannugraha febry.hariyannugr...@gmail.com Aduuhh .. Cape bener jadi trader :( Kena gocek melulu Kali ini invest aja deh .. .. mau naik mau nggak ... biar bandar aja yang nentuin ... Walau beli diatas .. biar aja ... Toh sepertinya semua pada sepakat ke 3000 kan ? Untuk Pak Rei ... kali ini saya tidak akan jual barang saya deh.. hehehehehe Bener deh Pak :)
Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects
Morning Mr.Rei.. From ur words I catch up that ur an investor.. Would u mind to share ur time horizon of investing???.. N I noticed that u also pay attention on what's going on day per day.. May I know whether u sell or just close the screen if the hull comes???.. I always want to be an Investor like u but end up as a daily trader :(.. Being a daily trader really needs such effort n energy.. I'm afraid I can't hv the same energy n performance as times goes by.. So if u don't mind I need ur advise n expertise as an Investor.. Thx.. Hv a gr8 holiday :).. -Original Message- From: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 09:11:30 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects Iya pak, tenang aja lah. Inpes boss, inpess... :-)) On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@yahoo.com wrote: Sama pak, saya juga pegang barang. Kalo dibawah turun... Yahh mau buat apa, kan kite2 cuma retail.. Moga2 si B itu bisa jadi harapn terakhir. Mbah nihh yang kompeten untuk jawab. Kalo kata pak peter alimin tadi... Disambung dengan dow yg minus merah ini, sapa tau ML udah bisa prediksi bahwa akan ada something happen... Makanya last minutes buang barang ga karuan. Mungkin sedikit jelas kalo puzzle tadi sore digabungkan dengan dow merah malam ini. But who knows... Sapa tau cece el, ama koko arto mau nari Kalo tetep turun.. At least kita nyangkut rame2 -- *From*: Rei *Date*: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:52:10 +0700 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects Memang Senin libut, selasa index otomatis immune ya pak Thomas? hehehe Dari yg punya barang :D On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@yahoo.com wrote: Nahhh ini dia berita yg ditunggu2 yang ga punya barang Untuk yg punya barang Syermm Untung hari senin libur ya Coba buka tebak sendiri dehh Aug. 14 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks fell for the first time in three days on concern that the rally in the Standard Poor’s 500 Index to a 10-month high has outpaced the prospects for the economy’s recovery. Boeing Co., the world’s second largest commercial airplane manufacturer, led declines in the Dow Jones Industrial Average after saying it found flaws in 23 of its 787 Dreamliners. Alcoa Inc., 3M Co. and Travelers Cos. also slumped as commodity, financial and industrial shares posted the biggest declines. “A lot of people think the market has come up more than enough and it needs to rest,” said Charles Knott, chief investment officer at Knott Capital Management in Exton, Pennsylvania, who oversees about $550 million. “We’ve got a pretty sobering outlook and are concerned about the economy on a long-term basis. We think there’s neither the will power nor the means to fully finance that type of V shape recovery.” The Standard Poor’s 500 Index slipped 0.4 percent to 1,008.84 at 9:41 a.m. in New York. The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 39.98 points, or 0.4 percent, to 9,358. European and Asian shares advanced. U.S. stocks are “dramatically overpriced” because the fallout from the financial crisis will continue to hurt consumer spending, said David Tice, Federated Investors Inc.’s chief portfolio strategist for bear markets. Tice, who predicts that the SP 500 will eventually slump to 400, said he would add to short positions if the market goes much higher. ‘Need to Be Realistic’ “I’d love for prosperity to return, unfortunately I think you need to be realistic and it takes time to work off these excesses” from a bubble in credit markets, Tice said in an interview with Bloomberg Television. Equities declined even after industrial production in the U.S. rose for the first time in nine months after mid-year retooling at automakers and as a federal “cash-for-clunkers” program fueled demand for cars. The 0.5 percent increase in output at manufacturers, mines and utilities was more than forecast, Federal Reserve figures showed. Stocks gained yesterday after investor John Paulson’s hedge fund bought stakes in banks, helping offset an unexpected slump in retail sales. The SP 500 is little changed on the week after climbing for the last four. A 50 percent rebound from a 12-year low on March 9 left the SP 500 trading at 18.6 times the profits of its companies on Aug. 7, the highest valuation since 2004, according to weekly Bloomberg data. Earnings Season Per-share earnings topped analysts’ estimates by 10 percent on average for the companies in the SP 500 that have released results since June 17, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Profits slumped about 30 percent in the period, a record eighth straight quarter of falling earnings. Instead of a so-called
Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects
Morning Mr. SB, My principle is simple, I buy at correction (well not all, but most of my holdings) and I do avg up when the stock is up bit by bit. So at the end, the quantity of my stocks will increase little by little as time goes by. My aim is to build wealth in stock market (dunno if it's an appropriate strategy or not but time will tell), not to trade. I plan to hold at least from 2 to 5 years or more depending on my need for fund. If I need money and have to liquidate after a few years of holding, I will sell (of course at a profit) but if I don't need money I may not sell at all since it's for my children's college find (that's why many call me nuts! [?]) unless the profit is too good to be true that I can't resist or the trend is really bearish (I didn't liquidate anything in 2008 though the situation was that bad). So you see, I am flexible. After all, it's my money not other people's money. My reason for watching daily is because I want to learn how to trade properly. I watch general market's sentiment thorugh OB which I think is quite good as a gauge. So I haven't done a lot of trading as I am not good yet... I do have little positions for trading (even that is for 1-2 months trading) though. Hope that helps. ps. I am no expert. On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 9:30 AM, stock.bree...@yahoo.com wrote: Morning Mr.Rei.. From ur words I catch up that ur an investor.. Would u mind to share ur time horizon of investing???.. N I noticed that u also pay attention on what's going on day per day.. May I know whether u sell or just close the screen if the hull comes???.. I always want to be an Investor like u but end up as a daily trader :(.. Being a daily trader really needs such effort n energy.. I'm afraid I can't hv the same energy n performance as times goes by.. So if u don't mind I need ur advise n expertise as an Investor.. Thx.. Hv a gr8 holiday :).. -- *From*: Rei *Date*: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 09:11:30 +0700 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects Iya pak, tenang aja lah. Inpes boss, inpess... :-)) On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@yahoo.com wrote: Sama pak, saya juga pegang barang. Kalo dibawah turun... Yahh mau buat apa, kan kite2 cuma retail.. Moga2 si B itu bisa jadi harapn terakhir. Mbah nihh yang kompeten untuk jawab. Kalo kata pak peter alimin tadi... Disambung dengan dow yg minus merah ini, sapa tau ML udah bisa prediksi bahwa akan ada something happen... Makanya last minutes buang barang ga karuan. Mungkin sedikit jelas kalo puzzle tadi sore digabungkan dengan dow merah malam ini. But who knows... Sapa tau cece el, ama koko arto mau nari Kalo tetep turun.. At least kita nyangkut rame2 -- *From*: Rei *Date*: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:52:10 +0700 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects Memang Senin libut, selasa index otomatis immune ya pak Thomas? hehehe Dari yg punya barang :D On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@yahoo.com wrote: Nahhh ini dia berita yg ditunggu2 yang ga punya barang Untuk yg punya barang Syermm Untung hari senin libur ya Coba buka tebak sendiri dehh Aug. 14 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks fell for the first time in three days on concern that the rally in the Standard Poor’s 500 Index to a 10-month high has outpaced the prospects for the economy’s recovery. Boeing Co., the world’s second largest commercial airplane manufacturer, led declines in the Dow Jones Industrial Average after saying it found flaws in 23 of its 787 Dreamliners. Alcoa Inc., 3M Co. and Travelers Cos. also slumped as commodity, financial and industrial shares posted the biggest declines. “A lot of people think the market has come up more than enough and it needs to rest,” said Charles Knott, chief investment officer at Knott Capital Management in Exton, Pennsylvania, who oversees about $550 million. “We’ve got a pretty sobering outlook and are concerned about the economy on a long-term basis. We think there’s neither the will power nor the means to fully finance that type of V shape recovery.” The Standard Poor’s 500 Index slipped 0.4 percent to 1,008.84 at 9:41 a.m. in New York. The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 39.98 points, or 0.4 percent, to 9,358. European and Asian shares advanced. U.S. stocks are “dramatically overpriced” because the fallout from the financial crisis will continue to hurt consumer spending, said David Tice, Federated Investors Inc.’s chief portfolio strategist for bear markets. Tice, who predicts that the SP 500 will eventually slump to 400, said he would add to short positions if the market goes much higher. ‘Need to Be Realistic
Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects
Thanks for the reply Mr.Rei.. Noted all.. Really appreciated it.. Btw for me all OB's member is an expert that's why I'm here.. To learn from the best!!!.. * Anyway r UNVR, INDF, BBCA included @ ur portfolio???.. Just a feeling^^ -Original Message- From: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 09:59:56 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects Morning Mr. SB, My principle is simple, I buy at correction (well not all, but most of my holdings) and I do avg up when the stock is up bit by bit. So at the end, the quantity of my stocks will increase little by little as time goes by. My aim is to build wealth in stock market (dunno if it's an appropriate strategy or not but time will tell), not to trade. I plan to hold at least from 2 to 5 years or more depending on my need for fund. If I need money and have to liquidate after a few years of holding, I will sell (of course at a profit) but if I don't need money I may not sell at all since it's for my children's college find (that's why many call me nuts! [?]) unless the profit is too good to be true that I can't resist or the trend is really bearish (I didn't liquidate anything in 2008 though the situation was that bad). So you see, I am flexible. After all, it's my money not other people's money. My reason for watching daily is because I want to learn how to trade properly. I watch general market's sentiment thorugh OB which I think is quite good as a gauge. So I haven't done a lot of trading as I am not good yet... I do have little positions for trading (even that is for 1-2 months trading) though. Hope that helps. ps. I am no expert. On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 9:30 AM, stock.bree...@yahoo.com wrote: Morning Mr.Rei.. From ur words I catch up that ur an investor.. Would u mind to share ur time horizon of investing???.. N I noticed that u also pay attention on what's going on day per day.. May I know whether u sell or just close the screen if the hull comes???.. I always want to be an Investor like u but end up as a daily trader :(.. Being a daily trader really needs such effort n energy.. I'm afraid I can't hv the same energy n performance as times goes by.. So if u don't mind I need ur advise n expertise as an Investor.. Thx.. Hv a gr8 holiday :).. -- *From*: Rei *Date*: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 09:11:30 +0700 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects Iya pak, tenang aja lah. Inpes boss, inpess... :-)) On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@yahoo.com wrote: Sama pak, saya juga pegang barang. Kalo dibawah turun... Yahh mau buat apa, kan kite2 cuma retail.. Moga2 si B itu bisa jadi harapn terakhir. Mbah nihh yang kompeten untuk jawab. Kalo kata pak peter alimin tadi... Disambung dengan dow yg minus merah ini, sapa tau ML udah bisa prediksi bahwa akan ada something happen... Makanya last minutes buang barang ga karuan. Mungkin sedikit jelas kalo puzzle tadi sore digabungkan dengan dow merah malam ini. But who knows... Sapa tau cece el, ama koko arto mau nari Kalo tetep turun.. At least kita nyangkut rame2 -- *From*: Rei *Date*: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:52:10 +0700 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects Memang Senin libut, selasa index otomatis immune ya pak Thomas? hehehe Dari yg punya barang :D On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@yahoo.com wrote: Nahhh ini dia berita yg ditunggu2 yang ga punya barang Untuk yg punya barang Syermm Untung hari senin libur ya Coba buka tebak sendiri dehh Aug. 14 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks fell for the first time in three days on concern that the rally in the Standard Poor’s 500 Index to a 10-month high has outpaced the prospects for the economy’s recovery. Boeing Co., the world’s second largest commercial airplane manufacturer, led declines in the Dow Jones Industrial Average after saying it found flaws in 23 of its 787 Dreamliners. Alcoa Inc., 3M Co. and Travelers Cos. also slumped as commodity, financial and industrial shares posted the biggest declines. “A lot of people think the market has come up more than enough and it needs to rest,” said Charles Knott, chief investment officer at Knott Capital Management in Exton, Pennsylvania, who oversees about $550 million. “We’ve got a pretty sobering outlook and are concerned about the economy on a long-term basis. We think there’s neither the will power nor the means to fully finance that type of V shape recovery.” The Standard Poor’s 500 Index slipped 0.4 percent to 1,008.84 at 9:41 a.m. in New York. The Dow Jones Industrial
Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects
No, I don't own any of the 3 stocks you mention. I am like tbumi, only into energy/mining :-) On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:13 AM, stock.bree...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks for the reply Mr.Rei.. Noted all.. Really appreciated it.. Btw for me all OB's member is an expert that's why I'm here.. To learn from the best!!!.. * Anyway r UNVR, INDF, BBCA included @ ur portfolio???.. Just a feeling^^ -- *From*: Rei *Date*: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 09:59:56 +0700 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects Morning Mr. SB, My principle is simple, I buy at correction (well not all, but most of my holdings) and I do avg up when the stock is up bit by bit. So at the end, the quantity of my stocks will increase little by little as time goes by. My aim is to build wealth in stock market (dunno if it's an appropriate strategy or not but time will tell), not to trade. I plan to hold at least from 2 to 5 years or more depending on my need for fund. If I need money and have to liquidate after a few years of holding, I will sell (of course at a profit) but if I don't need money I may not sell at all since it's for my children's college find (that's why many call me nuts! [?]) unless the profit is too good to be true that I can't resist or the trend is really bearish (I didn't liquidate anything in 2008 though the situation was that bad). So you see, I am flexible. After all, it's my money not other people's money. My reason for watching daily is because I want to learn how to trade properly. I watch general market's sentiment thorugh OB which I think is quite good as a gauge. So I haven't done a lot of trading as I am not good yet... I do have little positions for trading (even that is for 1-2 months trading) though. Hope that helps. ps. I am no expert. On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 9:30 AM, stock.bree...@yahoo.com wrote: Morning Mr.Rei.. From ur words I catch up that ur an investor.. Would u mind to share ur time horizon of investing???.. N I noticed that u also pay attention on what's going on day per day.. May I know whether u sell or just close the screen if the hull comes???.. I always want to be an Investor like u but end up as a daily trader :(.. Being a daily trader really needs such effort n energy.. I'm afraid I can't hv the same energy n performance as times goes by.. So if u don't mind I need ur advise n expertise as an Investor.. Thx.. Hv a gr8 holiday :).. -- *From*: Rei *Date*: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 09:11:30 +0700 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects Iya pak, tenang aja lah. Inpes boss, inpess... :-)) On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@yahoo.com wrote: Sama pak, saya juga pegang barang. Kalo dibawah turun... Yahh mau buat apa, kan kite2 cuma retail.. Moga2 si B itu bisa jadi harapn terakhir. Mbah nihh yang kompeten untuk jawab. Kalo kata pak peter alimin tadi... Disambung dengan dow yg minus merah ini, sapa tau ML udah bisa prediksi bahwa akan ada something happen... Makanya last minutes buang barang ga karuan. Mungkin sedikit jelas kalo puzzle tadi sore digabungkan dengan dow merah malam ini. But who knows... Sapa tau cece el, ama koko arto mau nari Kalo tetep turun.. At least kita nyangkut rame2 -- *From*: Rei *Date*: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:52:10 +0700 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects Memang Senin libut, selasa index otomatis immune ya pak Thomas? hehehe Dari yg punya barang :D On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@yahoo.com wrote: Nahhh ini dia berita yg ditunggu2 yang ga punya barang Untuk yg punya barang Syermm Untung hari senin libur ya Coba buka tebak sendiri dehh Aug. 14 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks fell for the first time in three days on concern that the rally in the Standard Poor’s 500 Index to a 10-month high has outpaced the prospects for the economy’s recovery. Boeing Co., the world’s second largest commercial airplane manufacturer, led declines in the Dow Jones Industrial Average after saying it found flaws in 23 of its 787 Dreamliners. Alcoa Inc., 3M Co. and Travelers Cos. also slumped as commodity, financial and industrial shares posted the biggest declines. “A lot of people think the market has come up more than enough and it needs to rest,” said Charles Knott, chief investment officer at Knott Capital Management in Exton, Pennsylvania, who oversees about $550 million. “We’ve got a pretty sobering outlook and are concerned about the economy on a long-term basis. We think there’s neither the will power nor
Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects
WOW.. Mining but u don't cut/short @ 2008???!!!.. YES UR NUTS wakakakaakakaka ;p.. Thanks Mr.Rei hv a nice day :).. -Original Message- From: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:19:54 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects No, I don't own any of the 3 stocks you mention. I am like tbumi, only into energy/mining :-) On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:13 AM, stock.bree...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks for the reply Mr.Rei.. Noted all.. Really appreciated it.. Btw for me all OB's member is an expert that's why I'm here.. To learn from the best!!!.. * Anyway r UNVR, INDF, BBCA included @ ur portfolio???.. Just a feeling^^ -- *From*: Rei *Date*: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 09:59:56 +0700 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects Morning Mr. SB, My principle is simple, I buy at correction (well not all, but most of my holdings) and I do avg up when the stock is up bit by bit. So at the end, the quantity of my stocks will increase little by little as time goes by. My aim is to build wealth in stock market (dunno if it's an appropriate strategy or not but time will tell), not to trade. I plan to hold at least from 2 to 5 years or more depending on my need for fund. If I need money and have to liquidate after a few years of holding, I will sell (of course at a profit) but if I don't need money I may not sell at all since it's for my children's college find (that's why many call me nuts! [?]) unless the profit is too good to be true that I can't resist or the trend is really bearish (I didn't liquidate anything in 2008 though the situation was that bad). So you see, I am flexible. After all, it's my money not other people's money. My reason for watching daily is because I want to learn how to trade properly. I watch general market's sentiment thorugh OB which I think is quite good as a gauge. So I haven't done a lot of trading as I am not good yet... I do have little positions for trading (even that is for 1-2 months trading) though. Hope that helps. ps. I am no expert. On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 9:30 AM, stock.bree...@yahoo.com wrote: Morning Mr.Rei.. From ur words I catch up that ur an investor.. Would u mind to share ur time horizon of investing???.. N I noticed that u also pay attention on what's going on day per day.. May I know whether u sell or just close the screen if the hull comes???.. I always want to be an Investor like u but end up as a daily trader :(.. Being a daily trader really needs such effort n energy.. I'm afraid I can't hv the same energy n performance as times goes by.. So if u don't mind I need ur advise n expertise as an Investor.. Thx.. Hv a gr8 holiday :).. -- *From*: Rei *Date*: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 09:11:30 +0700 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects Iya pak, tenang aja lah. Inpes boss, inpess... :-)) On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@yahoo.com wrote: Sama pak, saya juga pegang barang. Kalo dibawah turun... Yahh mau buat apa, kan kite2 cuma retail.. Moga2 si B itu bisa jadi harapn terakhir. Mbah nihh yang kompeten untuk jawab. Kalo kata pak peter alimin tadi... Disambung dengan dow yg minus merah ini, sapa tau ML udah bisa prediksi bahwa akan ada something happen... Makanya last minutes buang barang ga karuan. Mungkin sedikit jelas kalo puzzle tadi sore digabungkan dengan dow merah malam ini. But who knows... Sapa tau cece el, ama koko arto mau nari Kalo tetep turun.. At least kita nyangkut rame2 -- *From*: Rei *Date*: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:52:10 +0700 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects Memang Senin libut, selasa index otomatis immune ya pak Thomas? hehehe Dari yg punya barang :D On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@yahoo.com wrote: Nahhh ini dia berita yg ditunggu2 yang ga punya barang Untuk yg punya barang Syermm Untung hari senin libur ya Coba buka tebak sendiri dehh Aug. 14 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks fell for the first time in three days on concern that the rally in the Standard Poor’s 500 Index to a 10-month high has outpaced the prospects for the economy’s recovery. Boeing Co., the world’s second largest commercial airplane manufacturer, led declines in the Dow Jones Industrial Average after saying it found flaws in 23 of its 787 Dreamliners. Alcoa Inc., 3M Co. and Travelers Cos. also slumped as commodity, financial and industrial shares posted the biggest declines
Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects
See? [?] On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:48 AM, stock.bree...@yahoo.com wrote: WOW.. Mining but u don't cut/short @ 2008???!!!.. YES UR NUTS wakakakaakakaka ;p.. Thanks Mr.Rei hv a nice day :).. -- *From*: Rei *Date*: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:19:54 +0700 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects No, I don't own any of the 3 stocks you mention. I am like tbumi, only into energy/mining :-) On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:13 AM, stock.bree...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks for the reply Mr.Rei.. Noted all.. Really appreciated it.. Btw for me all OB's member is an expert that's why I'm here.. To learn from the best!!!.. * Anyway r UNVR, INDF, BBCA included @ ur portfolio???.. Just a feeling^^ -- *From*: Rei *Date*: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 09:59:56 +0700 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects Morning Mr. SB, My principle is simple, I buy at correction (well not all, but most of my holdings) and I do avg up when the stock is up bit by bit. So at the end, the quantity of my stocks will increase little by little as time goes by. My aim is to build wealth in stock market (dunno if it's an appropriate strategy or not but time will tell), not to trade. I plan to hold at least from 2 to 5 years or more depending on my need for fund. If I need money and have to liquidate after a few years of holding, I will sell (of course at a profit) but if I don't need money I may not sell at all since it's for my children's college find (that's why many call me nuts! [?]) unless the profit is too good to be true that I can't resist or the trend is really bearish (I didn't liquidate anything in 2008 though the situation was that bad). So you see, I am flexible. After all, it's my money not other people's money. My reason for watching daily is because I want to learn how to trade properly. I watch general market's sentiment thorugh OB which I think is quite good as a gauge. So I haven't done a lot of trading as I am not good yet... I do have little positions for trading (even that is for 1-2 months trading) though. Hope that helps. ps. I am no expert. On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 9:30 AM, stock.bree...@yahoo.com wrote: Morning Mr.Rei.. From ur words I catch up that ur an investor.. Would u mind to share ur time horizon of investing???.. N I noticed that u also pay attention on what's going on day per day.. May I know whether u sell or just close the screen if the hull comes???.. I always want to be an Investor like u but end up as a daily trader :(.. Being a daily trader really needs such effort n energy.. I'm afraid I can't hv the same energy n performance as times goes by.. So if u don't mind I need ur advise n expertise as an Investor.. Thx.. Hv a gr8 holiday :).. -- *From*: Rei *Date*: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 09:11:30 +0700 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects Iya pak, tenang aja lah. Inpes boss, inpess... :-)) On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@yahoo.com wrote: Sama pak, saya juga pegang barang. Kalo dibawah turun... Yahh mau buat apa, kan kite2 cuma retail.. Moga2 si B itu bisa jadi harapn terakhir. Mbah nihh yang kompeten untuk jawab. Kalo kata pak peter alimin tadi... Disambung dengan dow yg minus merah ini, sapa tau ML udah bisa prediksi bahwa akan ada something happen... Makanya last minutes buang barang ga karuan. Mungkin sedikit jelas kalo puzzle tadi sore digabungkan dengan dow merah malam ini. But who knows... Sapa tau cece el, ama koko arto mau nari Kalo tetep turun.. At least kita nyangkut rame2 -- *From*: Rei *Date*: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:52:10 +0700 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects Memang Senin libut, selasa index otomatis immune ya pak Thomas? hehehe Dari yg punya barang :D On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@yahoo.com wrote: Nahhh ini dia berita yg ditunggu2 yang ga punya barang Untuk yg punya barang Syermm Untung hari senin libur ya Coba buka tebak sendiri dehh Aug. 14 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks fell for the first time in three days on concern that the rally in the Standard Poor’s 500 Index to a 10-month high has outpaced the prospects for the economy’s recovery. Boeing Co., the world’s second largest commercial airplane manufacturer, led declines in the Dow Jones Industrial Average after saying it found flaws in 23 of its 787 Dreamliners. Alcoa Inc., 3M Co. and Travelers Cos. also slumped
Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects
Pak Rei demen aman ma sektor energi/mining,kok ga di kolaborasi dengan sektor lain nya? Kalo sektor energi/mining jeblok ga ada pelampung laen nya donkz.. Just newbie view.. Btw I do have a stock that I buy at 2007 until now.. Kelelep sahamnya so I keep for my children aja deh (padahal mah keburu amblas harga nya ga keburu di selamatkan.. Wkwkwkw) Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:19:54 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects No, I don't own any of the 3 stocks you mention. I am like tbumi, only into energy/mining :-) On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:13 AM, stock.bree...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks for the reply Mr.Rei.. Noted all.. Really appreciated it.. Btw for me all OB's member is an expert that's why I'm here.. To learn from the best!!!.. * Anyway r UNVR, INDF, BBCA included @ ur portfolio???.. Just a feeling^^ -- *From*: Rei *Date*: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 09:59:56 +0700 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects Morning Mr. SB, My principle is simple, I buy at correction (well not all, but most of my holdings) and I do avg up when the stock is up bit by bit. So at the end, the quantity of my stocks will increase little by little as time goes by. My aim is to build wealth in stock market (dunno if it's an appropriate strategy or not but time will tell), not to trade. I plan to hold at least from 2 to 5 years or more depending on my need for fund. If I need money and have to liquidate after a few years of holding, I will sell (of course at a profit) but if I don't need money I may not sell at all since it's for my children's college find (that's why many call me nuts! [?]) unless the profit is too good to be true that I can't resist or the trend is really bearish (I didn't liquidate anything in 2008 though the situation was that bad). So you see, I am flexible. After all, it's my money not other people's money. My reason for watching daily is because I want to learn how to trade properly. I watch general market's sentiment thorugh OB which I think is quite good as a gauge. So I haven't done a lot of trading as I am not good yet... I do have little positions for trading (even that is for 1-2 months trading) though. Hope that helps. ps. I am no expert. On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 9:30 AM, stock.bree...@yahoo.com wrote: Morning Mr.Rei.. From ur words I catch up that ur an investor.. Would u mind to share ur time horizon of investing???.. N I noticed that u also pay attention on what's going on day per day.. May I know whether u sell or just close the screen if the hull comes???.. I always want to be an Investor like u but end up as a daily trader :(.. Being a daily trader really needs such effort n energy.. I'm afraid I can't hv the same energy n performance as times goes by.. So if u don't mind I need ur advise n expertise as an Investor.. Thx.. Hv a gr8 holiday :).. -- *From*: Rei *Date*: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 09:11:30 +0700 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects Iya pak, tenang aja lah. Inpes boss, inpess... :-)) On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@yahoo.com wrote: Sama pak, saya juga pegang barang. Kalo dibawah turun... Yahh mau buat apa, kan kite2 cuma retail.. Moga2 si B itu bisa jadi harapn terakhir. Mbah nihh yang kompeten untuk jawab. Kalo kata pak peter alimin tadi... Disambung dengan dow yg minus merah ini, sapa tau ML udah bisa prediksi bahwa akan ada something happen... Makanya last minutes buang barang ga karuan. Mungkin sedikit jelas kalo puzzle tadi sore digabungkan dengan dow merah malam ini. But who knows... Sapa tau cece el, ama koko arto mau nari Kalo tetep turun.. At least kita nyangkut rame2 -- *From*: Rei *Date*: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:52:10 +0700 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects Memang Senin libut, selasa index otomatis immune ya pak Thomas? hehehe Dari yg punya barang :D On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@yahoo.com wrote: Nahhh ini dia berita yg ditunggu2 yang ga punya barang Untuk yg punya barang Syermm Untung hari senin libur ya Coba buka tebak sendiri dehh Aug. 14 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks fell for the first time in three days on concern that the rally in the Standard Poor’s 500 Index to a 10-month high has outpaced the prospects for the economy’s recovery. Boeing Co., the world’s second largest
Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects
Saya gak diversifikasi pak, konsen aja. Makanya gokil hahaha tapi memang saya orgnya gitu. Buat apa punya banyak sektor ntar 2 naik, 2 turun akhirnya samimawon alias gak kemana2.. Pak Yudizz (mana ya dia? Kangen nih) pernah bilang, cara saya memang beda dgn mayoritas org pada umumnya. On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:41 AM, sahami...@ymail.com wrote: Pak Rei demen aman ma sektor energi/mining,kok ga di kolaborasi dengan sektor lain nya? Kalo sektor energi/mining jeblok ga ada pelampung laen nya donkz.. Just newbie view.. Btw I do have a stock that I buy at 2007 until now.. Kelelep sahamnya so I keep for my children aja deh (padahal mah keburu amblas harga nya ga keburu di selamatkan.. Wkwkwkw) Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -- *From*: Rei *Date*: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:19:54 +0700 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects No, I don't own any of the 3 stocks you mention. I am like tbumi, only into energy/mining :-) On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:13 AM, stock.bree...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks for the reply Mr.Rei.. Noted all.. Really appreciated it.. Btw for me all OB's member is an expert that's why I'm here.. To learn from the best!!!.. * Anyway r UNVR, INDF, BBCA included @ ur portfolio???.. Just a feeling^^ -- *From*: Rei *Date*: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 09:59:56 +0700 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects Morning Mr. SB, My principle is simple, I buy at correction (well not all, but most of my holdings) and I do avg up when the stock is up bit by bit. So at the end, the quantity of my stocks will increase little by little as time goes by. My aim is to build wealth in stock market (dunno if it's an appropriate strategy or not but time will tell), not to trade. I plan to hold at least from 2 to 5 years or more depending on my need for fund. If I need money and have to liquidate after a few years of holding, I will sell (of course at a profit) but if I don't need money I may not sell at all since it's for my children's college find (that's why many call me nuts! [?]) unless the profit is too good to be true that I can't resist or the trend is really bearish (I didn't liquidate anything in 2008 though the situation was that bad). So you see, I am flexible. After all, it's my money not other people's money. My reason for watching daily is because I want to learn how to trade properly. I watch general market's sentiment thorugh OB which I think is quite good as a gauge. So I haven't done a lot of trading as I am not good yet... I do have little positions for trading (even that is for 1-2 months trading) though. Hope that helps. ps. I am no expert. On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 9:30 AM, stock.bree...@yahoo.com wrote: Morning Mr.Rei.. From ur words I catch up that ur an investor.. Would u mind to share ur time horizon of investing???.. N I noticed that u also pay attention on what's going on day per day.. May I know whether u sell or just close the screen if the hull comes???.. I always want to be an Investor like u but end up as a daily trader :(.. Being a daily trader really needs such effort n energy.. I'm afraid I can't hv the same energy n performance as times goes by.. So if u don't mind I need ur advise n expertise as an Investor.. Thx.. Hv a gr8 holiday :).. -- *From*: Rei *Date*: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 09:11:30 +0700 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects Iya pak, tenang aja lah. Inpes boss, inpess... :-)) On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@yahoo.com wrote: Sama pak, saya juga pegang barang. Kalo dibawah turun... Yahh mau buat apa, kan kite2 cuma retail.. Moga2 si B itu bisa jadi harapn terakhir. Mbah nihh yang kompeten untuk jawab. Kalo kata pak peter alimin tadi... Disambung dengan dow yg minus merah ini, sapa tau ML udah bisa prediksi bahwa akan ada something happen... Makanya last minutes buang barang ga karuan. Mungkin sedikit jelas kalo puzzle tadi sore digabungkan dengan dow merah malam ini. But who knows... Sapa tau cece el, ama koko arto mau nari Kalo tetep turun.. At least kita nyangkut rame2 -- *From*: Rei *Date*: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:52:10 +0700 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally Outpaced Recovery Prospects Memang Senin libut, selasa index otomatis immune ya pak Thomas? hehehe Dari yg punya barang :D On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@yahoo.com wrote: Nahhh ini dia berita yg ditunggu2 yang ga punya barang Untuk yg punya barang
