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Hus... Masa gw nyuekin Elaine. Kaga lah... Ini gw lagi nyari-2 alesan buat ngeles. Hehehe,... @EL: Sabar ye darling. ane lagi ada urusan dikit. Salam, On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Joe Martin milis.s4...@gmail.com wrote: Hahaha... Kesian deh dicuekin ama Mr. Boyz *kaboerrr
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ob weekend rame? tal? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Joe Grunk joe_gr...@... wrote: Ada gak yg mau merebut posisi bandar di Indonesia? Atau mau jadi trader? Wkwkwkwk... --- Pada Jum, 2/10/09, Elaine Sui elainesu...@... menulis: Dari: Elaine Sui elainesu...@... Judul: Re: [ob] Kegocek lagi kah ? Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Jumat, 2 Oktober, 2009 Reuters told you. Why everyone's quoting OB... even that Medco thing is brought up to the media. I guess 'they' are watching OB too. Fascinating.. Anyway, my two cents about earnings mentioned below is 'bad'. now boyz, could you please tell me your sun tzu? I really want to hear it. Now is weekend, sure you have time. OR Please tell me whether there's an outflow (fund withdrawal) from the IDX, from Technical perspective. And EVERYONE, please if you are an employee, PLEASE be careful, I see the UNEMPLOYMENT ISSUE is finally reaching INDONESIA. Indonesia will get SWARMED by overseas job seekers (mostly from Eurozone). You will see more foreigners around the city searching for job, make sure it's not yours they're looking for. This is a warning as this may bring social unrest. (well okay it's not really an unemployment issue, but you will things will be more competitive. These foreigners will replace your position if you don't work good) And about cars.. hm.. is there any sign that the price will FALL like 50% in 2010. Any news? Elaine http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idAFN0227417720091002?rpc=44 On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote: Perhaps you want to hear from me first? Fine . Well, it might be because market is seeing US companies have been trying everything to reduce their overhead costs (thus maintaining their profitability) by doing layoffs and mergers. (though reducing OHC is no way better than increasing Opr Rev, it still a good thing, and will polish their ratios too) And the rising of natural gas price brings good sentiment to gas producers such as Energi and Medco. But I see so far the trading volumes are relatively thin, so we may see a bit volatile market. Now, give m Elaine On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:02 AM, b Duh nanya-nya jgn yg susah2 dong, hon... :P On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wro
[ob] Kegocek lagi kah ?
SP 500 +5.70 1046.80 9/28 8:26am Fair Value 1039.89 9/25 7:33pm Difference* +6.91 NASDAQ +6.25 1703.25 9/28 7:59am Fair Value 1692.59 9/25 7:33pm Difference* +10.66 Dow Jones +35.00 9654.00 9/28 8:14am NYMEX CRUDE FUTURE 66.02 .00 .00 08:13 Weleh2, lama2 trader ritel bisa buas nih kalau misalnya ada koreksi, langsung tanpa mikir main embat aja, hehehehehheee
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Jaman bullish emang susah mo dapet diskon gede. Diskon dikit aja langsung diserbu. Beda banget kan psikologi-nya sama awal tahun, udah dikasih diskon gede2an ga mo belanja. Sekarang masih di fase pause in an up-trend lah, konsolidasi. Distribusi? Emangnya Bigfunds yg mo distribusi yakin kalo melakukan distribusi skrg, nanti bisa dapet lagi barang yg sama dengan harga diskon 30% atau lebih?? Salam, On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 7:41 PM, billy_budiman92 billybudima...@yahoo.comwrote: SP 500 +5.70 1046.80 9/28 8:26am Fair Value 1039.89 9/25 7:33pm Difference* +6.91 NASDAQ +6.25 1703.25 9/28 7:59am Fair Value 1692.59 9/25 7:33pm Difference* +10.66 Dow Jones +35.00 9654.00 9/28 8:14am NYMEX CRUDE FUTURE 66.02 .00 .00 08:13 Weleh2, lama2 trader ritel bisa buas nih kalau misalnya ada koreksi, langsung tanpa mikir main embat aja, hehehehehheee + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
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Pak boyz. Klo pause of uptrend gini, apa bnr langkah saya dg menjual saham yg udah naek byk dan menukarnya dg saham yg laggard(d sektor yg sama khususnya..) Btw, dji udah +115 Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: boyz® m457...@yahoo.com.sg Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:51:40 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Kegocek lagi kah ? Jaman bullish emang susah mo dapet diskon gede. Diskon dikit aja langsung diserbu. Beda banget kan psikologi-nya sama awal tahun, udah dikasih diskon gede2an ga mo belanja. Sekarang masih di fase pause in an up-trend lah, konsolidasi. Distribusi? Emangnya Bigfunds yg mo distribusi yakin kalo melakukan distribusi skrg, nanti bisa dapet lagi barang yg sama dengan harga diskon 30% atau lebih?? Salam, On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 7:41 PM, billy_budiman92 billybudima...@yahoo.com mailto:billybudima...@yahoo.com wrote: SP 500 +5.70 1046.80 9/28 8:26am Fair Value 1039.89 9/25 7:33pm Difference* +6.91 NASDAQ +6.25 1703.25 9/28 7:59am Fair Value 1692.59 9/25 7:33pm Difference* +10.66 Dow Jones +35.00 9654.00 9/28 8:14am NYMEX CRUDE FUTURE 66.02 .00 .00 08:13 Weleh2, lama2 trader ritel bisa buas nih kalau misalnya ada koreksi, langsung tanpa mikir main embat aja, hehehehehheee + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:obrolan-bandar-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: obrolan-bandar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Bener kayaknya duit yg di side-line dan tertinggal rally sejak maret-YTD masih banyak, Turun 3 % saja yg bawa EMBER sudah balapan nampung ... Sent from my AXIS Worry Free BlackBerry® smartphone -Original Message- From: boyz® m457...@yahoo.com.sg Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:51:40 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Kegocek lagi kah ? Jaman bullish emang susah mo dapet diskon gede. Diskon dikit aja langsung diserbu. Beda banget kan psikologi-nya sama awal tahun, udah dikasih diskon gede2an ga mo belanja. Sekarang masih di fase pause in an up-trend lah, konsolidasi. Distribusi? Emangnya Bigfunds yg mo distribusi yakin kalo melakukan distribusi skrg, nanti bisa dapet lagi barang yg sama dengan harga diskon 30% atau lebih?? Salam, On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 7:41 PM, billy_budiman92 billybudima...@yahoo.comwrote: SP 500 +5.70 1046.80 9/28 8:26am Fair Value 1039.89 9/25 7:33pm Difference* +6.91 NASDAQ +6.25 1703.25 9/28 7:59am Fair Value 1692.59 9/25 7:33pm Difference* +10.66 Dow Jones +35.00 9654.00 9/28 8:14am NYMEX CRUDE FUTURE 66.02 .00 .00 08:13 Weleh2, lama2 trader ritel bisa buas nih kalau misalnya ada koreksi, langsung tanpa mikir main embat aja, hehehehehheee + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
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Kelihatannya gitu, pak. Dari koreksi akhir Juli kemarin udah kelihatan gelagat-nya. Ga bisa lihat ada koreksi dikit, pada berebutan nampung. Tapi emang bener kata mBah, selalu sediakan cash (jgn full loaded)... Jadinya begitu ada koreksi, bisa ikut ngambil diskon. Buat trader, ya tinggal di 'fine tuning' deh radar-nya (StockPicking), agar dapat barang (saham) yg turn-over (perputarannya) cepat. Bisa tik-tok frequently karena barangnya cepat laku + dapat gain. Salam, 2009/9/28 mr_...@yahoo.com Bener kayaknya duit yg di side-line dan tertinggal rally sejak maret-YTD masih banyak, Turun 3 % saja yg bawa EMBER sudah balapan nampung ... Sent from my AXIS Worry Free BlackBerry® smartphone -- *From: * boyz® m457...@yahoo.com.sg *Date: *Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:51:40 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] Kegocek lagi kah ? Jaman bullish emang susah mo dapet diskon gede. Diskon dikit aja langsung diserbu. Beda banget kan psikologi-nya sama awal tahun, udah dikasih diskon gede2an ga mo belanja. Sekarang masih di fase pause in an up-trend lah, konsolidasi. Distribusi? Emangnya Bigfunds yg mo distribusi yakin kalo melakukan distribusi skrg, nanti bisa dapet lagi barang yg sama dengan harga diskon 30% atau lebih?? Salam,
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Yang jelas kalau semua pada takut bearish, bozz mana maksimal distribusinya, coba tembusin ke 2,500 wuihhh dijamin barang boss laris manis, hahahahhahahaaa --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, mr_...@... wrote: Bener kayaknya duit yg di side-line dan tertinggal rally sejak maret-YTD masih banyak, Turun 3 % saja yg bawa EMBER sudah balapan nampung ... Sent from my AXIS Worry Free BlackBerry® smartphone -Original Message- From: boyz® m457...@... Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:51:40 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Kegocek lagi kah ? Jaman bullish emang susah mo dapet diskon gede. Diskon dikit aja langsung diserbu. Beda banget kan psikologi-nya sama awal tahun, udah dikasih diskon gede2an ga mo belanja. Sekarang masih di fase pause in an up-trend lah, konsolidasi. Distribusi? Emangnya Bigfunds yg mo distribusi yakin kalo melakukan distribusi skrg, nanti bisa dapet lagi barang yg sama dengan harga diskon 30% atau lebih?? Salam, On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 7:41 PM, billy_budiman92 billybudima...@...wrote: SP 500 +5.70 1046.80 9/28 8:26am Fair Value 1039.89 9/25 7:33pm Difference* +6.91 NASDAQ +6.25 1703.25 9/28 7:59am Fair Value 1692.59 9/25 7:33pm Difference* +10.66 Dow Jones +35.00 9654.00 9/28 8:14am NYMEX CRUDE FUTURE 66.02 .00 .00 08:13 Weleh2, lama2 trader ritel bisa buas nih kalau misalnya ada koreksi, langsung tanpa mikir main embat aja, hehehehehheee + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
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Tergantung pak, Mudah-2an saham yg laggard tsb ngga salah pilih. Kalau salah pilih, ya jadi kelamaan nunggu. Kita cuma bengong nanti-nya ngelihat saham lain pada joget2 :P Ga musti pilih yg satu sektor kan pak, pindah ke sektor lain yg kira2 akan rame juga gpp kan? Disinilah kejelian kita di uji... StockPicking is the key. Salam, 2009/9/28 Peter Alimin milis...@live.com Pak boyz. Klo pause of uptrend gini, apa bnr langkah saya dg menjual saham yg udah naek byk dan menukarnya dg saham yg laggard(d sektor yg sama khususnya..) Btw, dji udah +115
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Btw, dji udah +115 He he rumput tetangga emang selalu lebih hijau yah ... Sent from my BB® and see http://M.inilah.com ...! -Original Message- From: Peter Alimin milis...@live.com Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:06:09 To: OBobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Kegocek lagi kah ? Pak boyz. Klo pause of uptrend gini, apa bnr langkah saya dg menjual saham yg udah naek byk dan menukarnya dg saham yg laggard(d sektor yg sama khususnya..) Btw, dji udah +115 Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: boyz® m457...@yahoo.com.sg Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:51:40 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Kegocek lagi kah ? Jaman bullish emang susah mo dapet diskon gede. Diskon dikit aja langsung diserbu. Beda banget kan psikologi-nya sama awal tahun, udah dikasih diskon gede2an ga mo belanja. Sekarang masih di fase pause in an up-trend lah, konsolidasi. Distribusi? Emangnya Bigfunds yg mo distribusi yakin kalo melakukan distribusi skrg, nanti bisa dapet lagi barang yg sama dengan harga diskon 30% atau lebih?? Salam, On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 7:41 PM, billy_budiman92 billybudima...@yahoo.com mailto:billybudima...@yahoo.com wrote: SP 500 +5.70 1046.80 9/28 8:26am Fair Value 1039.89 9/25 7:33pm Difference* +6.91 NASDAQ +6.25 1703.25 9/28 7:59am Fair Value 1692.59 9/25 7:33pm Difference* +10.66 Dow Jones +35.00 9654.00 9/28 8:14am NYMEX CRUDE FUTURE 66.02 .00 .00 08:13 Weleh2, lama2 trader ritel bisa buas nih kalau misalnya ada koreksi, langsung tanpa mikir main embat aja, hehehehehheee + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:obrolan-bandar-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: obrolan-bandar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Btw, dji udah +115 He he rumput tetangga emang selalu lebih hijau yah ... Sent from my BB® and see http://M.inilah.com ...! -Original Message- From: Peter Alimin milis...@live.com Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:06:09 To: OBobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Kegocek lagi kah ? Pak boyz. Klo pause of uptrend gini, apa bnr langkah saya dg menjual saham yg udah naek byk dan menukarnya dg saham yg laggard(d sektor yg sama khususnya..) Btw, dji udah +115 Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: boyz® m457...@yahoo.com.sg Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:51:40 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Kegocek lagi kah ? Jaman bullish emang susah mo dapet diskon gede. Diskon dikit aja langsung diserbu. Beda banget kan psikologi-nya sama awal tahun, udah dikasih diskon gede2an ga mo belanja. Sekarang masih di fase pause in an up-trend lah, konsolidasi. Distribusi? Emangnya Bigfunds yg mo distribusi yakin kalo melakukan distribusi skrg, nanti bisa dapet lagi barang yg sama dengan harga diskon 30% atau lebih?? Salam, On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 7:41 PM, billy_budiman92 billybudima...@yahoo.com mailto:billybudima...@yahoo.com wrote: SP 500 +5.70 1046.80 9/28 8:26am Fair Value 1039.89 9/25 7:33pm Difference* +6.91 NASDAQ +6.25 1703.25 9/28 7:59am Fair Value 1692.59 9/25 7:33pm Difference* +10.66 Dow Jones +35.00 9654.00 9/28 8:14am NYMEX CRUDE FUTURE 66.02 .00 .00 08:13 Weleh2, lama2 trader ritel bisa buas nih kalau misalnya ada koreksi, langsung tanpa mikir main embat aja, hehehehehheee + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:obrolan-bandar-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: obrolan-bandar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Stockpicking is the and BD is the master key... Hahaha Pak Boyz... Any clue from BD? Sptnya bullish mode : on ya? Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: boyz® m457...@yahoo.com.sg Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:17:54 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Kegocek lagi kah ? Tergantung pak, Mudah-2an saham yg laggard tsb ngga salah pilih. Kalau salah pilih, ya jadi kelamaan nunggu. Kita cuma bengong nanti-nya ngelihat saham lain pada joget2 :P Ga musti pilih yg satu sektor kan pak, pindah ke sektor lain yg kira2 akan rame juga gpp kan? Disinilah kejelian kita di uji... StockPicking is the key. Salam, 2009/9/28 Peter Alimin milis...@live.com Pak boyz. Klo pause of uptrend gini, apa bnr langkah saya dg menjual saham yg udah naek byk dan menukarnya dg saham yg laggard(d sektor yg sama khususnya..) Btw, dji udah +115
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Itu lah bro Billy... Di pikir BOZZ itu culun kali ya, hehehe His tactic jauuuhhh lebih canggih, sumber daya manusia-nya jauh lebih smart, and perlengkapan perangnya jauh lebih lengkap dari average trader / investor. Begitu pula networking and sumber informasinya jauh lebih luas dari kita-2. ibarat kata, di art of war Sun Tzu aja ada 'trick'-nya: *All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near. Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush him.* *If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.** * Salam, 2009/9/28 billy_budiman92 billybudima...@yahoo.com Yang jelas kalau semua pada takut bearish, bozz mana maksimal distribusinya, coba tembusin ke 2,500 wuihhh dijamin barang boss laris manis, hahahahhahahaaa
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Lha Bullish kan udah dari kemarin-2 kan pak? hehehe... Emangnya sekarang udah Bearish? Dalam Bullish stage, koreksi wajar lah... Ini malah IHSG, susah banget koreksi-nya. Diskon dikit langsung ditampungin. Memang rada ngeri sih, takut over-heating... Makanya tetep waspada, tapi jgn paranoid. Clue dari BD? Nanti deh saya tanyain ke BD, kalo ketemu. Hehehe... Salam, 2009/9/28 anru.s...@gmail.com Stockpicking is the and BD is the master key... Hahaha Pak Boyz... Any clue from BD? Sptnya bullish mode : on ya?
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wuahahahhahaha, ada aja boss yang culun kek boss DEWA, hahahhaahaha, maklum ane bukan BD jadi gak ngerti --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz® m457...@... wrote: Itu lah bro Billy... Di pikir BOZZ itu culun kali ya, hehehe His tactic jauuuhhh lebih canggih, sumber daya manusia-nya jauh lebih smart, and perlengkapan perangnya jauh lebih lengkap dari average trader / investor. Begitu pula networking and sumber informasinya jauh lebih luas dari kita-2. ibarat kata, di art of war Sun Tzu aja ada 'trick'-nya: *All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near. Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush him.* *If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.** * Salam, 2009/9/28 billy_budiman92 billybudima...@... Yang jelas kalau semua pada takut bearish, bozz mana maksimal distribusinya, coba tembusin ke 2,500 wuihhh dijamin barang boss laris manis, hahahahhahahaaa
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Kalau BOZZ sudah menerapkan Sun Tzu's the art of war strategy di Stock Market, apalagi Bozz selalu memiliki informasi penting, akurat dan pertama tentang apa pun yang berkaitan dan bisa dikaitkan dengan Pasar Modalakan menjadi sangat tidak mudah bagi para traders/investor kecil untuk mendapat keuntungan besar di Stock Market.. Olehkarena itu...the only way for trader to defend themselves is to adopt the Survival methodIn a desperate situation, they fear nothing; when there is no way-out, they stand firm...as they think that Survival and Fearlessness will drive Victory. hehehe From: boyz® m457...@yahoo.com.sg To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 9:29:57 PM Subject: Re: [ob] Kegocek lagi kah ? Itu lah bro Billy... Di pikir BOZZ itu culun kali ya, hehehe His tactic jauuuhhh lebih canggih, sumber daya manusia-nya jauh lebih smart, and perlengkapan perangnya jauh lebih lengkap dari average trader / investor. Begitu pula networking and sumber informasinya jauh lebih luas dari kita-2. ibarat kata, di art of war Sun Tzu aja ada 'trick'-nya: All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near. Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush him. If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected. Salam, 2009/9/28 billy_budiman92 billybudiman20@ yahoo.com Yang jelas kalau semua pada takut bearish, bozz mana maksimal distribusinya, coba tembusin ke 2,500 wuihhh dijamin barang boss laris manis, hahahahhahahaaa
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Mumpung lagi pada berpikiran positif semua [:))] Saya summary dech... Posting Pak Aria : From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Aria Bela Nusa Sent: 19 September 2009 5:08 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Big Picture... Importance: High IHSG in weekly : My Notes : Berhubung tdk tahu caranya fwd, ya ditulis saja.Upline -- 2.742 From: boyz® m4573rs@ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:51:40 Sekarang masih di fase pause in an up-trend lah, konsolidasi. Distribusi? Emangnya Bigfunds yg mo distribusi yakin kalo melakukan distribusi skrg, nanti bisa dapet lagi barang yg sama dengan harga diskon 30% atau lebih?? Kesimpulan masih belom yakin. berarti Uptrend Pause. [:-/] Kemudian Mr.Billy -- Billy Dozan aktor filem laga(gubraks)... [:] --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, billy_budiman92 billybudima...@... wrote: Yang jelas kalau semua pada takut bearish, bozz mana maksimal distribusinya, coba tembusin ke 2,500 wuihhh dijamin barang boss laris manis, hahahahhahahaaa My Notes : Jika 2.500 ditembusin maka bisa jadi 2.500 menjadi SUPPORT. Saat ini DOW +1,28% SUPPORT Kuat sementara ini +/- 9.600, sesuai gambar SUPPORT BULLISH embah kemarin. http://www.obrolanbandar.com/pwldjiazz.png http://www.obrolanbandar.com/pwldjiazz.png sptnya perlu tenaga untuk tetep mempertahankan Uptrend http://www.asiachart.com/udowst.gif http://www.asiachart.com/udowst.gif Ini misalnya saja DOW saat ini di W3 dengan target 10.2XX dan W5 target 11.XXX DJI dan IHSG - Yahoo Finance http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_2aKqvFC3Mmk/SsFaUmsu9_I/A6A/y4my1dbUV\ tM/s1600-h/DJI+vs+IHSG+-+Yahoo+Finance.PNG Jangan2 IHSG W3 = +/- 2.700 dan W5 = +/- 3.100-3.200 Dengan W4 Support = +/- 2.500 (ha ha ha kali aja, pasti banyak yg pingsan termasuk saya [:))] ) IHSG diantara Harapan dan Kenyataan http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2aKqvFC3Mmk/SsFaVD4qs6I/A6I/uU3M0e45n\ Vg/s1600-h/IHSG+diantara+Harapan+dan+Kenyataan.PNG Kalo di Apply ke Weekly : IHSG - Weekly - Mimpikah diriku :-D http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2aKqvFC3Mmk/SsFaVd50rsI/A6Q/PvKrjCYvv\ 8g/s1600-h/IHSG+-+Weekly.PNG Apalagi menurut Pak EkonomBeling http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/192876 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/192876 Berikut saya garis bawahi : sampe akhir tahun, saya kemaren coba simulasi, ruang penambahan ihsg ga akan sehebat periode Januari-Juni 09 yg lalu, tapi masih tetap menanjak. alasannya simpel, seperti kata kebanyakan analis, likuiditas global emang masih banjir,...jir...jir Sebagai contoh, pertumbuhan jjumlah dollar AS yang beredar di luar sistem keuangan mereka jauh lebih banyak dari pada yng ada di dalam sistem keuangan mereka. jumlah pertumbuhan yang huebat ini ternyata bersamaan dengan menggilanya indeks n menguatny mata uang regional. Hipothetically keterkaitan antara likuiditas global dan penguatan indeks memang confirmed. nah, pertanyaannya kapan indeks mulai sideways? menurut saya bila fed mulai menaikkan fedrate-nya yang menurut simulasi akan mulai akhir 1Q 2010. benar atau engga kita pantau saja perkembangannya. bagi para investor pasar finansial yg penting saat ini mencermati inflasi tahunan AS. once inflasi tahunan mereka positif, hmmm.. sebaiknya mulai susun ulang portfolio anda. My Notes : Mohon dikoreksi jika ada yg salah [B-)] Semoga hari ini IHSG sudah tdk digantung lagi...pas di TRENDLINE soalnya [:))] IHSG - 60 Menit http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2aKqvFC3Mmk/SsFaWPe33II/A6Y/gxDJSTGrB\ b4/s1600-h/IHSG+-+60+Menit.PNG Dan Selamat menapaki kembali Deru dan Debu (Sountrack) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93nONHzKW4c dari Bursa Efek Indonesia [:p] (Melankolis sekali qiqiqi [#-o] ) Good Luck. Tks Regards --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, billy_budiman92 billybudima...@... wrote: Yang jelas kalau semua pada takut bearish, bozz mana maksimal distribusinya, coba tembusin ke 2,500 wuihhh dijamin barang boss laris manis, hahahahhahahaaa --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, mr_w4w@ wrote: Bener kayaknya duit yg di side-line dan tertinggal rally sejak maret-YTD masih banyak, Turun 3 % saja yg bawa EMBER sudah balapan nampung ... Sent from my AXIS Worry Free BlackBerry® smartphone -Original Message- From: boyz® m4573rs@ Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:51:40 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Kegocek lagi kah ? Jaman bullish emang susah mo dapet diskon gede. Diskon dikit aja langsung diserbu. Beda banget kan psikologi-nya sama awal tahun, udah dikasih diskon gede2an ga mo belanja. Sekarang masih di fase pause in an up-trend lah, konsolidasi. Distribusi? Emangnya Bigfunds yg mo distribusi yakin kalo melakukan distribusi skrg, nanti bisa dapet lagi barang yg sama dengan harga diskon 30% atau lebih?? Salam, On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 7:41 PM, billy_budiman92 billybudima...@wrote: SP 500 +5.70
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*Boyz, since you bring this sun tzu things up, can you please tell us why US market rebounded last night, from your sun tzu perspective, and why IDX should rebound as well. Elaine** * On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:09 PM, jacob oen oenja...@yahoo.com wrote: Kalau BOZZ sudah menerapkan Sun Tzu's the art of war strategy di Stock Market, apalagi Bozz selalu memiliki informasi penting, akurat dan pertama tentang apa pun yang berkaitan dan bisa dikaitkan dengan Pasar Modalakan menjadi sangat tidak mudah bagi para traders/investor kecil untuk mendapat keuntungan besar di Stock Market.. Olehkarena itu...the only way for trader to defend themselves is to adopt the Survival methodIn a desperate situation, they fear nothing; when there is no way-out, they stand firm...as they think that Survivaland Fearlessness will drive Victory. hehehe -- *From:* boyz® m457...@yahoo.com.sg *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, September 28, 2009 9:29:57 PM *Subject:* Re: [ob] Kegocek lagi kah ? Itu lah bro Billy... Di pikir BOZZ itu culun kali ya, hehehe His tactic jauuuhhh lebih canggih, sumber daya manusia-nya jauh lebih smart, and perlengkapan perangnya jauh lebih lengkap dari average trader / investor. Begitu pula networking and sumber informasinya jauh lebih luas dari kita-2. ibarat kata, di art of war Sun Tzu aja ada 'trick'-nya: *All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near. Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush him.* *If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.** * Salam, 2009/9/28 billy_budiman92 billybudiman20@ yahoo.combillybudima...@yahoo.com Yang jelas kalau semua pada takut bearish, bozz mana maksimal distribusinya, coba tembusin ke 2,500 wuihhh dijamin barang boss laris manis, hahahahhahahaaa
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Duh nanya-nya jgn yg susah2 dong, hon... :P On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com wrote: *Boyz, since you bring this sun tzu things up, can you please tell us why US market rebounded last night, from your sun tzu perspective, and why IDX should rebound as well. Elaine*
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Lagi ngobrol sama pohon pak (kog dipanggil hon [:-/] ) (Waduh rasa2nya ada yg mo nyakar nich [:))] -- kabur ah) http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/rje0215l.jpg http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/rje0215l.jpg Tks regards --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz® m457...@... wrote: Duh nanya-nya jgn yg susah2 dong, hon... :P On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote: *Boyz, since you bring this sun tzu things up, can you please tell us why US market rebounded last night, from your sun tzu perspective, and why IDX should rebound as well. Elaine*
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hehehe... 2009/9/29 EdwinKdr edwin...@yahoo.com Lagi ngobrol sama pohon pak (kog dipanggil hon [image: :-/]) (Waduh rasa2nya ada yg mo nyakar nich [image: :))] -- kabur ah) http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/rje0215l.jpg Tks *regards* --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz® m457...@... wrote: Duh nanya-nya jgn yg susah2 dong, hon... :P On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote: *Boyz, since you bring this sun tzu things up, can you please tell us why US market rebounded last night, from your sun tzu perspective, and why IDX should rebound as well. Elaine*
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*Perhaps you want to hear from me first? Fine [?]. Well, it might be because market is seeing US companies have been trying everything to reduce their overhead costs (thus maintaining their profitability) by doing layoffs and mergers. (though reducing OHC is no way better than increasing Opr Rev, it still a good thing, and will polish their ratios too) And the rising of natural gas price brings good sentiment to gas producers such as Energi and Medco. But I see so far the trading volumes are relatively thin, so we may see a bit volatile market. Now, give me your sun tzu. Elaine * On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:02 AM, boyz® m457...@yahoo.com.sg wrote: Duh nanya-nya jgn yg susah2 dong, hon... :P On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com wrote: *Boyz, since you bring this sun tzu things up, can you please tell us why US market rebounded last night, from your sun tzu perspective, and why IDX should rebound as well. Elaine* 330.gif
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Kayak pilem warkop... maju kena mundur kena deh... wkwkwkwk From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Elaine Sui Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 10:37 AM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Kegocek lagi kah ? Perhaps you want to hear from me first? Fine . Well, it might be because market is seeing US companies have been trying everything to reduce their overhead costs (thus maintaining their profitability) by doing layoffs and mergers. (though reducing OHC is no way better than increasing Opr Rev, it still a good thing, and will polish their ratios too) And the rising of natural gas price brings good sentiment to gas producers such as Energi and Medco. But I see so far the trading volumes are relatively thin, so we may see a bit volatile market. Now, give me your sun tzu. Elaine On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:02 AM, boyz(r) m457...@yahoo.com.sg mailto:m457...@yahoo.com.sg wrote: Duh nanya-nya jgn yg susah2 dong, hon... :P On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com mailto:elainesu...@gmail.com wrote: Boyz, since you bring this sun tzu things up, can you please tell us why US market rebounded last night, from your sun tzu perspective, and why IDX should rebound as well. Elaine This email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee, do not disclose, copy, circulate or in any other way use or rely on the information contained in this email or any attachments. If received in error, notify the sender immediately and delete this email and any attachments from your system. Emails cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error free as the message and any attachments could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, delayed, incomplete or amended. Standard Chartered PLC and its subsidiaries do not accept liability for damage caused by this email or any attachments and may monitor email traffic. Standard Chartered PLC is incorporated in England with limited liability under company number 966425 and has its registered office at 1 Aldermanbury Square, London, EC2V 7SB. Standard Chartered Bank (SCB) is incorporated in England with limited liability by Royal Charter 1853, under reference ZC18. The Principal Office of SCB is situated in England at 1 Aldermanbury Square, London EC2V 7SB. In the United Kingdom, SCB is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority under FSA register number 114276. If you are receiving this email from SCB outside the UK, please click http://www.standardchartered.com/global/email_disclaimer.html to refer to the information on other jurisdictions. image001.gif
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dari pada tanya sun tzu mendingan suhunya sun tzu, i ching..he..he --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote: *Perhaps you want to hear from me first? Fine [?]. Well, it might be because market is seeing US companies have been trying everything to reduce their overhead costs (thus maintaining their profitability) by doing layoffs and mergers. (though reducing OHC is no way better than increasing Opr Rev, it still a good thing, and will polish their ratios too) And the rising of natural gas price brings good sentiment to gas producers such as Energi and Medco. But I see so far the trading volumes are relatively thin, so we may see a bit volatile market. Now, give me your sun tzu. Elaine * On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:02 AM, boyz® m457...@... wrote: Duh nanya-nya jgn yg susah2 dong, hon... :P On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote: *Boyz, since you bring this sun tzu things up, can you please tell us why US market rebounded last night, from your sun tzu perspective, and why IDX should rebound as well. Elaine*
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On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:11 AM, iching_prediction iching_predict...@yahoo.com wrote: dari pada tanya sun tzu mendingan suhunya sun tzu, i ching..he..he Nahh,... tanya ama I Ching aja tuw. pasti lebih manteb *fiu selamet dah gw :p*
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maksud ane, pak boys yg tanya lgs ke i ching, trus interpretasi kan ke el..he..he --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz® m457...@... wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:11 AM, iching_prediction iching_predict...@... wrote: dari pada tanya sun tzu mendingan suhunya sun tzu, i ching..he..he Nahh,... tanya ama I Ching aja tuw. pasti lebih manteb *fiu selamet dah gw :p*
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Kena lagi de From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of iching_prediction Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:26 AM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Kegocek lagi kah ? maksud ane, pak boys yg tanya lgs ke i ching, trus interpretasi kan ke el..he..he --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , boyz® m457...@... wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:11 AM, iching_prediction iching_predict...@... wrote: dari pada tanya sun tzu mendingan suhunya sun tzu, i ching..he..he Nahh,... tanya ama I Ching aja tuw. pasti lebih manteb *fiu selamet dah gw :p* This email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee, do not disclose, copy, circulate or in any other way use or rely on the information contained in this email or any attachments. If received in error, notify the sender immediately and delete this email and any attachments from your system. Emails cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error free as the message and any attachments could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, delayed, incomplete or amended. Standard Chartered PLC and its subsidiaries do not accept liability for damage caused by this email or any attachments and may monitor email traffic. Standard Chartered PLC is incorporated in England with limited liability under company number 966425 and has its registered office at 1 Aldermanbury Square, London, EC2V 7SB. Standard Chartered Bank (SCB) is incorporated in England with limited liability by Royal Charter 1853, under reference ZC18. The Principal Office of SCB is situated in England at 1 Aldermanbury Square, London EC2V 7SB. In the United Kingdom, SCB is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority under FSA register number 114276. If you are receiving this email from SCB outside the UK, please click http://www.standardchartered.com/global/email_disclaimer.html to refer to the information on other jurisdictions.
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Test..(ignor please..) From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of boyz® Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 10:23 AM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Kegocek lagi kah ? https://docs.google.com/File?id=dffcftt3_149gd97mjgt_b hehehe... 2009/9/29 EdwinKdr edwin...@yahoo.com Lagi ngobrol sama pohon pak (kog dipanggil hon Error! Filename not specified.) (Waduh rasa2nya ada yg mo nyakar nich Error! Filename not specified.-- kabur ah) http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/rje0215l.jpg Tks regards --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz® m457...@... wrote: Duh nanya-nya jgn yg susah2 dong, hon... :P On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote: *Boyz, since you bring this sun tzu things up, can you please tell us why US market rebounded last night, from your sun tzu perspective, and why IDX should rebound as well. Elaine*
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Pan semua ada level2-nya pak.. :p --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, iching_prediction iching_predict...@... wrote: dari pada tanya sun tzu mendingan suhunya sun tzu, i ching..he..he --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui elainesui83@ wrote: *Perhaps you want to hear from me first? Fine [?]. Well, it might be because market is seeing US companies have been trying everything to reduce their overhead costs (thus maintaining their profitability) by doing layoffs and mergers. (though reducing OHC is no way better than increasing Opr Rev, it still a good thing, and will polish their ratios too) And the rising of natural gas price brings good sentiment to gas producers such as Energi and Medco. But I see so far the trading volumes are relatively thin, so we may see a bit volatile market. Now, give me your sun tzu. Elaine * On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:02 AM, boyz® m4573rs@ wrote: Duh nanya-nya jgn yg susah2 dong, hon... :P On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Elaine Sui elainesui83@ wrote: *Boyz, since you bring this sun tzu things up, can you please tell us why US market rebounded last night, from your sun tzu perspective, and why IDX should rebound as well. Elaine*
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Masih cakep aja.. :) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote: *Perhaps you want to hear from me first? Fine [?]. Well, it might be because market is seeing US companies have been trying everything to reduce their overhead costs (thus maintaining their profitability) by doing layoffs and mergers. (though reducing OHC is no way better than increasing Opr Rev, it still a good thing, and will polish their ratios too) And the rising of natural gas price brings good sentiment to gas producers such as Energi and Medco. But I see so far the trading volumes are relatively thin, so we may see a bit volatile market. Now, give me your sun tzu. Elaine * On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:02 AM, boyz® m457...@... wrote: Duh nanya-nya jgn yg susah2 dong, hon... :P On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote: *Boyz, since you bring this sun tzu things up, can you please tell us why US market rebounded last night, from your sun tzu perspective, and why IDX should rebound as well. Elaine*
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Kalo su-zu - Pak Boyz mau2 'kali, yah (becanda.com) Masih cakep aja.. :) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote: *Perhaps you want to hear from me first? Fine [?]. Well, it might be because market is seeing US companies have been trying everything to reduce their overhead costs (thus maintaining their profitability) by doing layoffs and mergers. (though reducing OHC is no way better than increasing Opr Rev, it still a good thing, and will polish their ratios too) And the rising of natural gas price brings good sentiment to gas producers such as Energi and Medco. But I see so far the trading volumes are relatively thin, so we may see a bit volatile market. Now, give me your sun tzu. Elaine * On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:02 AM, boyz® m457...@... wrote: Duh nanya-nya jgn yg susah2 dong, hon... :P On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote: *Boyz, since you bring this sun tzu things up, can you please tell us why US market rebounded last night, from your sun tzu perspective, and why IDX should rebound as well. Elaine*
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kalu boleh komen ke mas billy... berbahaya euy kalimatnya...??hahhaa... From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:23:27 AM Subject: Re: [ob] Kegocek lagi kah ? Boyz, since you bring this sun tzu things up, can you please tell us why US market rebounded last night, from your sun tzu perspective, and why IDX should rebound as well. Elaine On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:09 PM, jacob oen oenja...@yahoo. com wrote: Kalau BOZZ sudah menerapkan Sun Tzu's the art of war strategy di Stock Market, apalagi Bozz selalu memiliki informasi penting, akurat dan pertama tentang apa pun yang berkaitan dan bisa dikaitkan dengan Pasar Modalakan menjadi sangat tidak mudah bagi para traders/investor kecil untuk mendapat keuntungan besar di Stock Market.. Olehkarena itu...the only way for trader to defend themselves is to adopt the Survival methodIn a desperate situation, they fear nothing; when there is no way-out, they stand firm...as they think that Survival and Fearlessness will drive Victory. hehehe From: boyz® m457...@yahoo. com.sg To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 9:29:57 PM Subject: Re: [ob] Kegocek lagi kah ? Itu lah bro Billy... Di pikir BOZZ itu culun kali ya, hehehe His tactic jauuuhhh lebih canggih, sumber daya manusia-nya jauh lebih smart, and perlengkapan perangnya jauh lebih lengkap dari average trader / investor. Begitu pula networking and sumber informasinya jauh lebih luas dari kita-2. ibarat kata, di art of war Sun Tzu aja ada 'trick'-nya: All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near. Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush him. If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected. Salam, 2009/9/28 billy_budiman92 billybudiman20@ yahoo.com Yang jelas kalau semua pada takut bearish, bozz mana maksimal distribusinya, coba tembusin ke 2,500 wuihhh dijamin barang boss laris manis, hahahahhahahaaa