Re: Opsss.... USD Re: [ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA

2009-12-05 Terurut Topik jkunci
Namun eurusd udah nongol keluar (break support). Tunggu senen dech serius atau 
ngga


Salam,


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-Original Message-
From: boyz® m457...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 22:36:07 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Opsss USD Re: [ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA

Per closing kemarin, short-term downtrend masih belum patah sih.

Salam,


2009/12/5 Cougar Boy boysngi...@gmail.com



 aproaching key level 76.

 Kemarin ketahan di 75.98,.. *USD bull baru confirm kalau USD Index break
 and close above 76*

 Secara TA baru ada tanda-tanda reversal seperti divergence..cuman belum
 valid.. penembusan sebelumnya sudah gagal 1x.

 Sebenarnya tanda-tanda reversal USD sudah tampak dari 6 minggu lalu. Salah
 satu mantan sesepun OB Bapak Eka Suwandana sudah memberitahu adanya
 aktifitas di UUP (ETF power share dari USD). Peningkatan volume di UUP sejak
 awal november memberikan tanda-tanda adanya reversal dari USD. Mungkin ini
 yang menyebabkan permainan saham 6 minggu terakhir serasa kurang nyaman.

 Nah.. efek USD bagaimana ? Ini yang perlu kita cermati.
 Positif:
 Sebenarnya penguatan USD tidaklah jelek dan jelas bagus untuk sektor riil.
 Ekonomi dunia bisa kembali ke posisi balance. Selama ini pelemahan USD tidak
 disukai, apalagi dengan di peng-nya posisi YUAN terhadap USD. Kalau USD
 terus-terusan melemah, maka YUAN akan ikut melemah dan membuat barang-barang
 asal China menjadi murah.. kalau diteruskan akan membuat negara lain serba
 salah. Ikut melemahkan mata uang dengan resiko inflasi atau membiarkan aja
 usd melemah dengan resiko industri manufaktur dalam negeri mati.

 Negatif:
 Selama ini penguatan bursa selalu dikaitkan dengan adanya dana murah dari
 USD. Walaupun tidak semua berasal dari dana murah.. tentunya tidak bisa
 dipungkiri bahwa dana panas dari USD itu ada. Nah sekarang tinggal adu kuat
 aja... kalau penguatan IHSG/ saham bisa mengalahkan penguatan USD terhadap
 IDR.. dana panas akan stay. Kalau tidak mereka  akan reduce. (hal ini pernah
 terjadi sepanjang 2005.. walaupun akhirnya KO juga)

 Saran:
 Don't be to worry about penguatan USD.. ini sehat. Cuman jangan terlalu
 greed juga bilang tidak akan ada masalah dengan BEI. Pasti ada efek
 samping.. walaupun tidak instant.

 Tidak ada salahnya belajar FA.. kalau saham sudah mahal dan berat naik..
 gak ada salahnya dikurangi.. daripada kena guyuran cuman bisa melongo.

 to pak JT,
 Bagaimana analisa UUP dan USD-Index.. minta saran dong

 Regards,
 Cougar

 On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:16 PM, boyz® m457...@gmail.com wrote:



 USD index lom tembus2 MA50 pak hmin.
 masih kasih sinyal reversal melulu dari bbrp bulan yg lalu,
 belum konfirmasi.

 Salam,





Re: Opsss.... USD Re: [ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA

2009-12-05 Terurut Topik Cougar Boy
Betul... pass.. key level masih di 76

2009/12/5 boyz® m457...@gmail.com



 Per closing kemarin, short-term downtrend masih belum patah sih.

 Salam,


 2009/12/5 Cougar Boy boysngi...@gmail.com



 aproaching key level 76.

 Kemarin ketahan di 75.98,.. *USD bull baru confirm kalau USD Index break
 and close above 76*

 Secara TA baru ada tanda-tanda reversal seperti divergence..cuman belum
 valid.. penembusan sebelumnya sudah gagal 1x.

 Sebenarnya tanda-tanda reversal USD sudah tampak dari 6 minggu lalu. Salah
 satu mantan sesepun OB Bapak Eka Suwandana sudah memberitahu adanya
 aktifitas di UUP (ETF power share dari USD). Peningkatan volume di UUP sejak
 awal november memberikan tanda-tanda adanya reversal dari USD. Mungkin ini
 yang menyebabkan permainan saham 6 minggu terakhir serasa kurang nyaman.

 Nah.. efek USD bagaimana ? Ini yang perlu kita cermati.
 Positif:
 Sebenarnya penguatan USD tidaklah jelek dan jelas bagus untuk sektor riil.
 Ekonomi dunia bisa kembali ke posisi balance. Selama ini pelemahan USD tidak
 disukai, apalagi dengan di peng-nya posisi YUAN terhadap USD. Kalau USD
 terus-terusan melemah, maka YUAN akan ikut melemah dan membuat barang-barang
 asal China menjadi murah.. kalau diteruskan akan membuat negara lain serba
 salah. Ikut melemahkan mata uang dengan resiko inflasi atau membiarkan aja
 usd melemah dengan resiko industri manufaktur dalam negeri mati.

 Negatif:
 Selama ini penguatan bursa selalu dikaitkan dengan adanya dana murah dari
 USD. Walaupun tidak semua berasal dari dana murah.. tentunya tidak bisa
 dipungkiri bahwa dana panas dari USD itu ada. Nah sekarang tinggal adu kuat
 aja... kalau penguatan IHSG/ saham bisa mengalahkan penguatan USD terhadap
 IDR.. dana panas akan stay. Kalau tidak mereka  akan reduce. (hal ini pernah
 terjadi sepanjang 2005.. walaupun akhirnya KO juga)

 Saran:
 Don't be to worry about penguatan USD.. ini sehat. Cuman jangan terlalu
 greed juga bilang tidak akan ada masalah dengan BEI. Pasti ada efek
 samping.. walaupun tidak instant.

 Tidak ada salahnya belajar FA.. kalau saham sudah mahal dan berat naik..
 gak ada salahnya dikurangi.. daripada kena guyuran cuman bisa melongo.

 to pak JT,
 Bagaimana analisa UUP dan USD-Index.. minta saran dong

 Regards,
 Cougar

 On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:16 PM, boyz® m457...@gmail.com wrote:



 USD index lom tembus2 MA50 pak hmin.
 masih kasih sinyal reversal melulu dari bbrp bulan yg lalu,
 belum konfirmasi.

 Salam,


  



[ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA

2009-12-04 Terurut Topik billy_budiman92
Payrolls Fell Only 11,000 Last Month, Jobless Rate at 10%

U.S. employers cut a far fewer-than-expected 11,000 jobs in November, the 
smallest decline since the start of the recession in December 2007, government 
data showed on Friday, strongly suggesting the deterioration in the labor 
market was in its final stages.

AP

The Labor Department said the unemployment rate fell to 10 percent from a 
26-1/2 year high of 10.2 percent in October.

The government revised job losses for September and October to show 159,000 
fewer jobs lost than previously reported.

Analysts polled by Reuters had expected non-farm payrolls to drop 130,000 last 
month and the unemployment rate to hold steady at 10.2 percent.

The data will take some pressure off President Barack Obama, a day after he 
appealed to the corporate sector, at a jobs summit he hosted, to join in the 
administration's employment creation efforts.

While the economy has resumed growth after four straight quarters of decline, 
there are concerns that labor market weakness will prevent the recovery from 
becoming self-sustaining.

Government spending is largely driving the economy's recovery from the worst 
recession in 70 years. Since December 2007, when the economy slipped into 
recession, 7.2 million jobs have been lost, the Labor Department said.

But the pace of layoffs has slowed sharply from early this year.

Analysts believe the bruised job market may be close to turning the corner, 
with jobs growth likely early next year.

November's data was the strongest since December 2007, when jobs increased by 
120,000. Payrolls have fallen every month since then.

The improvement in the labor market last month was broad based, with four 
sectors, including the government, adding jobs.

Manufacturing payrolls fell 41,000 after dropping 51,000 in October. The 
construction sector shed 27,000 jobs, while the service-providing sector added 
58,000 workers.

Professional and business services added 86,000, while education and health 
services increased payrolls by 40,000. Temporary help employment rose by 52,400.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... 
wrote:

 Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA





[ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA

2009-12-04 Terurut Topik t_bumi


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... 
wrote:

 Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA

Sip : tbumi

Beberapa hari yg lalu, sdh kami posting bahwa angka PHK

yg akan dipublikasikan hari Jumat di USA menurun. 

Semoga Bursa Jkt bisa mengikuti rumput tetangga yg hijau di DOWJ.

Sebenarnya yg akurat ttg data PHK adalah angka resmi yg dikeluari

oleh pemerintah dan bukanlah swasta yg publikasikan beberapa

hari lalu yg membuat DOWJ merah.

 



Re: [ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA

2009-12-04 Terurut Topik sasha winata
ini versi indonesia nya...


Turunnya Pengangguran, Sinyalemen Kuat Rally Dollar AS.
Jumat, 04 Desember 2009   
Oleh: Indra Yudistira

Bureau
of Labor Statistics Amerika pada malam hari ini (4-12, WIB) telah
merilis data yang luar biasa, dimana rilis tersebut menunjukkan adanya
perbaikan kinerja pada sektor ketenagakerjaan AS. Peningkatan kinerja
ini diluar dugaan banyak pihak dan berimbas sangat signifikan terhadap
Dollar AS.

Tingkat pengangguran dilaporkan menurun menjadi 10.0%
per November 2009. Terjadi peningkatan jumlah pekerja pada sektor
health care dan temporary health service dapat meredam meningkatnya
pemutusan hubungan kerja pada sektor konstruksi, manufaktur dan
informasi. 

Baca Selengkapnya :
vibiznews.com

Slm
S

--- On Fri, 12/4/09, billy_budiman92 billybudima...@gmail.com wrote:

From: billy_budiman92 billybudima...@gmail.com
Subject: [ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 1:55 PM







 



  



  
  
  Payrolls Fell Only 11,000 Last Month, Jobless Rate at 10%



U.S. employers cut a far fewer-than-expected 11,000 jobs in November, the 
smallest decline since the start of the recession in December 2007, government 
data showed on Friday, strongly suggesting the deterioration in the labor 
market was in its final stages.



AP



The Labor Department said the unemployment rate fell to 10 percent from a 
26-1/2 year high of 10.2 percent in October.



The government revised job losses for September and October to show 159,000 
fewer jobs lost than previously reported.



Analysts polled by Reuters had expected non-farm payrolls to drop 130,000 last 
month and the unemployment rate to hold steady at 10.2 percent.



The data will take some pressure off President Barack Obama, a day after he 
appealed to the corporate sector, at a jobs summit he hosted, to join in the 
administration' s employment creation efforts.



While the economy has resumed growth after four straight quarters of decline, 
there are concerns that labor market weakness will prevent the recovery from 
becoming self-sustaining.



Government spending is largely driving the economy's recovery from the worst 
recession in 70 years. Since December 2007, when the economy slipped into 
recession, 7.2 million jobs have been lost, the Labor Department said.



But the pace of layoffs has slowed sharply from early this year.



Analysts believe the bruised job market may be close to turning the corner, 
with jobs growth likely early next year.



November's data was the strongest since December 2007, when jobs increased by 
120,000. Payrolls have fallen every month since then.



The improvement in the labor market last month was broad based, with four 
sectors, including the government, adding jobs.



Manufacturing payrolls fell 41,000 after dropping 51,000 in October. The 
construction sector shed 27,000 jobs, while the service-providing sector added 
58,000 workers.



Professional and business services added 86,000, while education and health 
services increased payrolls by 40,000. Temporary help employment rose by 52,400.



--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... 
wrote:



 Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA








 





 



  






  

Re: [ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA

2009-12-04 Terurut Topik A9

Ane demen nih yg kaya gini.
Pada pinter english.

Kalo kirim news pake indonesia gini kan mudeng bacanya. 

Yg rajin ya sasha.





Regards,   

-Original Message-
From: sasha winata sashawin...@ymail.com
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 06:31:34 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA

ini versi indonesia nya...


Turunnya Pengangguran, Sinyalemen Kuat Rally Dollar AS.
Jumat, 04 Desember 2009   
Oleh: Indra Yudistira

Bureau
of Labor Statistics Amerika pada malam hari ini (4-12, WIB) telah
merilis data yang luar biasa, dimana rilis tersebut menunjukkan adanya
perbaikan kinerja pada sektor ketenagakerjaan AS. Peningkatan kinerja
ini diluar dugaan banyak pihak dan berimbas sangat signifikan terhadap
Dollar AS.

Tingkat pengangguran dilaporkan menurun menjadi 10.0%
per November 2009. Terjadi peningkatan jumlah pekerja pada sektor
health care dan temporary health service dapat meredam meningkatnya
pemutusan hubungan kerja pada sektor konstruksi, manufaktur dan
informasi. 

Baca Selengkapnya :
vibiznews.com

Slm
S

--- On Fri, 12/4/09, billy_budiman92 billybudima...@gmail.com wrote:

From: billy_budiman92 billybudima...@gmail.com
Subject: [ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 1:55 PM







 



  



  
  
  Payrolls Fell Only 11,000 Last Month, Jobless Rate at 10%



U.S. employers cut a far fewer-than-expected 11,000 jobs in November, the 
smallest decline since the start of the recession in December 2007, government 
data showed on Friday, strongly suggesting the deterioration in the labor 
market was in its final stages.



AP



The Labor Department said the unemployment rate fell to 10 percent from a 
26-1/2 year high of 10.2 percent in October.



The government revised job losses for September and October to show 159,000 
fewer jobs lost than previously reported.



Analysts polled by Reuters had expected non-farm payrolls to drop 130,000 last 
month and the unemployment rate to hold steady at 10.2 percent.



The data will take some pressure off President Barack Obama, a day after he 
appealed to the corporate sector, at a jobs summit he hosted, to join in the 
administration' s employment creation efforts.



While the economy has resumed growth after four straight quarters of decline, 
there are concerns that labor market weakness will prevent the recovery from 
becoming self-sustaining.



Government spending is largely driving the economy's recovery from the worst 
recession in 70 years. Since December 2007, when the economy slipped into 
recession, 7.2 million jobs have been lost, the Labor Department said.



But the pace of layoffs has slowed sharply from early this year.



Analysts believe the bruised job market may be close to turning the corner, 
with jobs growth likely early next year.



November's data was the strongest since December 2007, when jobs increased by 
120,000. Payrolls have fallen every month since then.



The improvement in the labor market last month was broad based, with four 
sectors, including the government, adding jobs.



Manufacturing payrolls fell 41,000 after dropping 51,000 in October. The 
construction sector shed 27,000 jobs, while the service-providing sector added 
58,000 workers.



Professional and business services added 86,000, while education and health 
services increased payrolls by 40,000. Temporary help employment rose by 52,400.



--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... 
wrote:



 Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA








 





 



  






  


Re: [ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA

2009-12-04 Terurut Topik Syat
Nice, so far 5 stocks Adv dan 1 Decline, Gold 1200 ... 
Bisa jalan2 dulu sabtu minggu deh, hemat tenaga buat senin tapi lho!

Cuu
BB  clicks http://M.inilah.com/rubrik/ekonomi/pasar-modal/

-Original Message-
From: billy_budiman92 billybudima...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:55:16 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA

Payrolls Fell Only 11,000 Last Month, Jobless Rate at 10%

U.S. employers cut a far fewer-than-expected 11,000 jobs in November, the 
smallest decline since the start of the recession in December 2007, government 
data showed on Friday, strongly suggesting the deterioration in the labor 
market was in its final stages.

AP

The Labor Department said the unemployment rate fell to 10 percent from a 
26-1/2 year high of 10.2 percent in October.

The government revised job losses for September and October to show 159,000 
fewer jobs lost than previously reported.

Analysts polled by Reuters had expected non-farm payrolls to drop 130,000 last 
month and the unemployment rate to hold steady at 10.2 percent.

The data will take some pressure off President Barack Obama, a day after he 
appealed to the corporate sector, at a jobs summit he hosted, to join in the 
administration's employment creation efforts.

While the economy has resumed growth after four straight quarters of decline, 
there are concerns that labor market weakness will prevent the recovery from 
becoming self-sustaining.

Government spending is largely driving the economy's recovery from the worst 
recession in 70 years. Since December 2007, when the economy slipped into 
recession, 7.2 million jobs have been lost, the Labor Department said.

But the pace of layoffs has slowed sharply from early this year.

Analysts believe the bruised job market may be close to turning the corner, 
with jobs growth likely early next year.

November's data was the strongest since December 2007, when jobs increased by 
120,000. Payrolls have fallen every month since then.

The improvement in the labor market last month was broad based, with four 
sectors, including the government, adding jobs.

Manufacturing payrolls fell 41,000 after dropping 51,000 in October. The 
construction sector shed 27,000 jobs, while the service-providing sector added 
58,000 workers.

Professional and business services added 86,000, while education and health 
services increased payrolls by 40,000. Temporary help employment rose by 52,400.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... 
wrote:

 Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA






Re: [ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA

2009-12-04 Terurut Topik Cougar Boy
mantap.. USD menguat lol, dow ijo

kaum bearish dikasih duit... bullish pesta...

jarang banget bull dan bear duduk bersama haha.



On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Syat dahsyat...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Nice, so far 5 stocks Adv dan 1 Decline, Gold 1200 ...
 Bisa jalan2 dulu sabtu minggu deh, hemat tenaga buat senin tapi lho!

 Cuu

 BB clicks http://M.inilah.com/rubrik/ekonomi/pasar-modal/
 --
 *From: * billy_budiman92 billybudima...@gmail.com
 *Date: *Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:55:16 -
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *[ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA



 Payrolls Fell Only 11,000 Last Month, Jobless Rate at 10%

 U.S. employers cut a far fewer-than-expected 11,000 jobs in November, the
 smallest decline since the start of the recession in December 2007,
 government data showed on Friday, strongly suggesting the deterioration in
 the labor market was in its final stages.

 AP

 The Labor Department said the unemployment rate fell to 10 percent from a
 26-1/2 year high of 10.2 percent in October.

 The government revised job losses for September and October to show 159,000
 fewer jobs lost than previously reported.

 Analysts polled by Reuters had expected non-farm payrolls to drop 130,000
 last month and the unemployment rate to hold steady at 10.2 percent.

 The data will take some pressure off President Barack Obama, a day after he
 appealed to the corporate sector, at a jobs summit he hosted, to join in the
 administration's employment creation efforts.

 While the economy has resumed growth after four straight quarters of
 decline, there are concerns that labor market weakness will prevent the
 recovery from becoming self-sustaining.

 Government spending is largely driving the economy's recovery from the
 worst recession in 70 years. Since December 2007, when the economy slipped
 into recession, 7.2 million jobs have been lost, the Labor Department said.

 But the pace of layoffs has slowed sharply from early this year.

 Analysts believe the bruised job market may be close to turning the corner,
 with jobs growth likely early next year.

 November's data was the strongest since December 2007, when jobs increased
 by 120,000. Payrolls have fallen every month since then.

 The improvement in the labor market last month was broad based, with four
 sectors, including the government, adding jobs.

 Manufacturing payrolls fell 41,000 after dropping 51,000 in October. The
 construction sector shed 27,000 jobs, while the service-providing sector
 added 58,000 workers.

 Professional and business services added 86,000, while education and health
 services increased payrolls by 40,000. Temporary help employment rose by
 52,400.

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote:
 
  Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA
 

   



[ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA

2009-12-04 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Pesta apaan, Dow engga pernah bisa nembus pentungan embah 
di 10500...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Cougar Boy boysngi...@... wrote:

 mantap.. USD menguat lol, dow ijo
 
 kaum bearish dikasih duit... bullish pesta...
 
 jarang banget bull dan bear duduk bersama haha.
 
 
 
 On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Syat dahsyat...@... wrote:
 
 
 
  Nice, so far 5 stocks Adv dan 1 Decline, Gold 1200 ...
  Bisa jalan2 dulu sabtu minggu deh, hemat tenaga buat senin tapi lho!
 
  Cuu
 
  BB clicks http://M.inilah.com/rubrik/ekonomi/pasar-modal/
  --
  *From: * billy_budiman92 billybudima...@...
  *Date: *Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:55:16 -
  *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  *Subject: *[ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA
 
 
 
  Payrolls Fell Only 11,000 Last Month, Jobless Rate at 10%
 
  U.S. employers cut a far fewer-than-expected 11,000 jobs in November, the
  smallest decline since the start of the recession in December 2007,
  government data showed on Friday, strongly suggesting the deterioration in
  the labor market was in its final stages.
 
  AP
 
  The Labor Department said the unemployment rate fell to 10 percent from a
  26-1/2 year high of 10.2 percent in October.
 
  The government revised job losses for September and October to show 159,000
  fewer jobs lost than previously reported.
 
  Analysts polled by Reuters had expected non-farm payrolls to drop 130,000
  last month and the unemployment rate to hold steady at 10.2 percent.
 
  The data will take some pressure off President Barack Obama, a day after he
  appealed to the corporate sector, at a jobs summit he hosted, to join in the
  administration's employment creation efforts.
 
  While the economy has resumed growth after four straight quarters of
  decline, there are concerns that labor market weakness will prevent the
  recovery from becoming self-sustaining.
 
  Government spending is largely driving the economy's recovery from the
  worst recession in 70 years. Since December 2007, when the economy slipped
  into recession, 7.2 million jobs have been lost, the Labor Department said.
 
  But the pace of layoffs has slowed sharply from early this year.
 
  Analysts believe the bruised job market may be close to turning the corner,
  with jobs growth likely early next year.
 
  November's data was the strongest since December 2007, when jobs increased
  by 120,000. Payrolls have fallen every month since then.
 
  The improvement in the labor market last month was broad based, with four
  sectors, including the government, adding jobs.
 
  Manufacturing payrolls fell 41,000 after dropping 51,000 in October. The
  construction sector shed 27,000 jobs, while the service-providing sector
  added 58,000 workers.
 
  Professional and business services added 86,000, while education and health
  services increased payrolls by 40,000. Temporary help employment rose by
  52,400.
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
  jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ wrote:
  
   Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA
  
 

 





Re: [ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA

2009-12-04 Terurut Topik Cougar Boy
Embah,...

jujur aja posisi saya di saham sudah minimal... tapi so far sih dow cukup
sehat.
coba lihat ini

http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=^DJI#symbol=^DJI;range=5d

setidaknya kita sudah di range atas minggu ini untuk waktu yang lumayan
lama.

Saat ini posisi saya di long USD. Sepertinya sedang party juga karena ada
kemungkinan peningkatan suku bunga USD.

Yang dikuatirkan cuman... hot money balik ke USD. Anyway kita lihat saja
besok.
Feeling sementara..posisi long di stock aman sampai januari 2010.

kalau seandainya digocek bandar.. masih ada tarikan lagi di januari 2010
buat kabur.

Bobo dulu :D
I am so happy today... haha..

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:40 PM, jsx_consultant 
jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id wrote:



 Pesta apaan, Dow engga pernah bisa nembus pentungan embah
 di 10500...


 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 Cougar Boy boysngi...@... wrote:
 
  mantap.. USD menguat lol, dow ijo
 
  kaum bearish dikasih duit... bullish pesta...
 
  jarang banget bull dan bear duduk bersama haha.
 
 
 
  On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Syat dahsyat...@... wrote:
 
  
  
   Nice, so far 5 stocks Adv dan 1 Decline, Gold 1200 ...
   Bisa jalan2 dulu sabtu minggu deh, hemat tenaga buat senin tapi lho!
  
   Cuu
  
   BB clicks http://M.inilah.com/rubrik/ekonomi/pasar-modal/
   --
   *From: * billy_budiman92 billybudima...@...
   *Date: *Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:55:16 -

   *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
 
   *Subject: *[ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA
  
  
  
   Payrolls Fell Only 11,000 Last Month, Jobless Rate at 10%
  
   U.S. employers cut a far fewer-than-expected 11,000 jobs in November,
 the
   smallest decline since the start of the recession in December 2007,
   government data showed on Friday, strongly suggesting the deterioration
 in
   the labor market was in its final stages.
  
   AP
  
   The Labor Department said the unemployment rate fell to 10 percent from
 a
   26-1/2 year high of 10.2 percent in October.
  
   The government revised job losses for September and October to show
 159,000
   fewer jobs lost than previously reported.
  
   Analysts polled by Reuters had expected non-farm payrolls to drop
 130,000
   last month and the unemployment rate to hold steady at 10.2 percent.
  
   The data will take some pressure off President Barack Obama, a day
 after he
   appealed to the corporate sector, at a jobs summit he hosted, to join
 in the
   administration's employment creation efforts.
  
   While the economy has resumed growth after four straight quarters of
   decline, there are concerns that labor market weakness will prevent the
   recovery from becoming self-sustaining.
  
   Government spending is largely driving the economy's recovery from the
   worst recession in 70 years. Since December 2007, when the economy
 slipped
   into recession, 7.2 million jobs have been lost, the Labor Department
 said.
  
   But the pace of layoffs has slowed sharply from early this year.
  
   Analysts believe the bruised job market may be close to turning the
 corner,
   with jobs growth likely early next year.
  
   November's data was the strongest since December 2007, when jobs
 increased
   by 120,000. Payrolls have fallen every month since then.
  
   The improvement in the labor market last month was broad based, with
 four
   sectors, including the government, adding jobs.
  
   Manufacturing payrolls fell 41,000 after dropping 51,000 in October.
 The
   construction sector shed 27,000 jobs, while the service-providing
 sector
   added 58,000 workers.
  
   Professional and business services added 86,000, while education and
 health
   services increased payrolls by 40,000. Temporary help employment rose
 by
   52,400.
  
   --- In 
   obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%
 40yahoogroups.com,

   jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ wrote:
   
Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA
   
  
  
  
 

  



RE: [ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA

2009-12-04 Terurut Topik JT
Quote: “kaum bearish dikasih duit... bullish pesta”

 

Ini statement menarik…, tapi Sumpe ane ngga ngerti, more detail dong, Boss 
Halim.. 

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Cougar Boy
Sent: 04 Desember 2009 22:36
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA

 


mantap.. USD menguat lol, dow ijo

 

kaum bearish dikasih duit... bullish pesta...

 

jarang banget bull dan bear duduk bersama haha.

 

 

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Syat dahsyat...@yahoo.com wrote:

  

Nice, so far 5 stocks Adv dan 1 Decline, Gold 1200 ... 
Bisa jalan2 dulu sabtu minggu deh, hemat tenaga buat senin tapi lho!

Cuu

BB? clicks http://M.inilah.com/rubrik/ekonomi/pasar-modal/

  _  

From: billy_budiman92 billybudima...@gmail.com 

Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:55:16 -

To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA

 

  

Payrolls Fell Only 11,000 Last Month, Jobless Rate at 10%

U.S. employers cut a far fewer-than-expected 11,000 jobs in November, the 
smallest decline since the start of the recession in December 2007, government 
data showed on Friday, strongly suggesting the deterioration in the labor 
market was in its final stages.

AP

The Labor Department said the unemployment rate fell to 10 percent from a 
26-1/2 year high of 10.2 percent in October.

The government revised job losses for September and October to show 159,000 
fewer jobs lost than previously reported.

Analysts polled by Reuters had expected non-farm payrolls to drop 130,000 last 
month and the unemployment rate to hold steady at 10.2 percent.

The data will take some pressure off President Barack Obama, a day after he 
appealed to the corporate sector, at a jobs summit he hosted, to join in the 
administration's employment creation efforts.

While the economy has resumed growth after four straight quarters of decline, 
there are concerns that labor market weakness will prevent the recovery from 
becoming self-sustaining.

Government spending is largely driving the economy's recovery from the worst 
recession in 70 years. Since December 2007, when the economy slipped into 
recession, 7.2 million jobs have been lost, the Labor Department said.

But the pace of layoffs has slowed sharply from early this year.

Analysts believe the bruised job market may be close to turning the corner, 
with jobs growth likely early next year.

November's data was the strongest since December 2007, when jobs increased by 
120,000. Payrolls have fallen every month since then.

The improvement in the labor market last month was broad based, with four 
sectors, including the government, adding jobs.

Manufacturing payrolls fell 41,000 after dropping 51,000 in October. The 
construction sector shed 27,000 jobs, while the service-providing sector added 
58,000 workers.

Professional and business services added 86,000, while education and health 
services increased payrolls by 40,000. Temporary help employment rose by 52,400.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com 
, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote:

 Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA


 








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Re: [ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA

2009-12-04 Terurut Topik Cougar Boy
kaum bearish (hmin salah satunya) bear terhadap market..jadi long USD

bullish (bull terhadap market) long stock

dua-duanya coan malam ini

haha

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:52 PM, JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com wrote:



  Quote: “kaum bearish dikasih duit... bullish pesta”



 Ini statement menarik…, tapi Sumpe ane ngga ngerti, more detail dong, Boss
 Halim..



 *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
 obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Cougar Boy
 *Sent:* 04 Desember 2009 22:36

 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA




 mantap.. USD menguat lol, dow ijo



 kaum bearish dikasih duit... bullish pesta...



 jarang banget bull dan bear duduk bersama haha.





 On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Syat dahsyat...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Nice, so far 5 stocks Adv dan 1 Decline, Gold 1200 ...
 Bisa jalan2 dulu sabtu minggu deh, hemat tenaga buat senin tapi lho!

 Cuu

 BB? clicks http://M.inilah.com/rubrik/ekonomi/pasar-modal/
  --

 *From: *billy_budiman92 billybudima...@gmail.com

 *Date: *Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:55:16 -

 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com

 *Subject: *[ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA





 Payrolls Fell Only 11,000 Last Month, Jobless Rate at 10%

 U.S. employers cut a far fewer-than-expected 11,000 jobs in November, the
 smallest decline since the start of the recession in December 2007,
 government data showed on Friday, strongly suggesting the deterioration in
 the labor market was in its final stages.

 AP

 The Labor Department said the unemployment rate fell to 10 percent from a
 26-1/2 year high of 10.2 percent in October.

 The government revised job losses for September and October to show 159,000
 fewer jobs lost than previously reported.

 Analysts polled by Reuters had expected non-farm payrolls to drop 130,000
 last month and the unemployment rate to hold steady at 10.2 percent.

 The data will take some pressure off President Barack Obama, a day after he
 appealed to the corporate sector, at a jobs summit he hosted, to join in the
 administration's employment creation efforts.

 While the economy has resumed growth after four straight quarters of
 decline, there are concerns that labor market weakness will prevent the
 recovery from becoming self-sustaining.

 Government spending is largely driving the economy's recovery from the
 worst recession in 70 years. Since December 2007, when the economy slipped
 into recession, 7.2 million jobs have been lost, the Labor Department said.

 But the pace of layoffs has slowed sharply from early this year.

 Analysts believe the bruised job market may be close to turning the corner,
 with jobs growth likely early next year.

 November's data was the strongest since December 2007, when jobs increased
 by 120,000. Payrolls have fallen every month since then.

 The improvement in the labor market last month was broad based, with four
 sectors, including the government, adding jobs.

 Manufacturing payrolls fell 41,000 after dropping 51,000 in October. The
 construction sector shed 27,000 jobs, while the service-providing sector
 added 58,000 workers.

 Professional and business services added 86,000, while education and health
 services increased payrolls by 40,000. Temporary help employment rose by
 52,400.

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote:
 
  Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA
 






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RE: [ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA

2009-12-04 Terurut Topik JT
Oh ok..ok... pantes happy banget keliatannya. J

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Cougar Boy
Sent: 04 Desember 2009 22:56
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA

 



kaum bearish (hmin salah satunya) bear terhadap market..jadi long USD 

 

bullish (bull terhadap market) long stock

 

dua-duanya coan malam ini

 

haha

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:52 PM, JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com wrote:

  

Quote: kaum bearish dikasih duit... bullish pesta

 

Ini statement menarik., tapi Sumpe ane ngga ngerti, more detail dong, Boss
Halim.. 

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Cougar Boy
Sent: 04 Desember 2009 22:36


To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA

 


mantap.. USD menguat lol, dow ijo

 

kaum bearish dikasih duit... bullish pesta...

 

jarang banget bull dan bear duduk bersama haha.

 

 

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Syat dahsyat...@yahoo.com wrote:

  

Nice, so far 5 stocks Adv dan 1 Decline, Gold 1200 ... 
Bisa jalan2 dulu sabtu minggu deh, hemat tenaga buat senin tapi lho!

Cuu

BB? clicks http://M.inilah.com/rubrik/ekonomi/pasar-modal/

  _  

From: billy_budiman92 billybudima...@gmail.com 

Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:55:16 -

To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA

 

  

Payrolls Fell Only 11,000 Last Month, Jobless Rate at 10%

U.S. employers cut a far fewer-than-expected 11,000 jobs in November, the
smallest decline since the start of the recession in December 2007,
government data showed on Friday, strongly suggesting the deterioration in
the labor market was in its final stages.

AP

The Labor Department said the unemployment rate fell to 10 percent from a
26-1/2 year high of 10.2 percent in October.

The government revised job losses for September and October to show 159,000
fewer jobs lost than previously reported.

Analysts polled by Reuters had expected non-farm payrolls to drop 130,000
last month and the unemployment rate to hold steady at 10.2 percent.

The data will take some pressure off President Barack Obama, a day after he
appealed to the corporate sector, at a jobs summit he hosted, to join in the
administration's employment creation efforts.

While the economy has resumed growth after four straight quarters of
decline, there are concerns that labor market weakness will prevent the
recovery from becoming self-sustaining.

Government spending is largely driving the economy's recovery from the worst
recession in 70 years. Since December 2007, when the economy slipped into
recession, 7.2 million jobs have been lost, the Labor Department said.

But the pace of layoffs has slowed sharply from early this year.

Analysts believe the bruised job market may be close to turning the corner,
with jobs growth likely early next year.

November's data was the strongest since December 2007, when jobs increased
by 120,000. Payrolls have fallen every month since then.

The improvement in the labor market last month was broad based, with four
sectors, including the government, adding jobs.

Manufacturing payrolls fell 41,000 after dropping 51,000 in October. The
construction sector shed 27,000 jobs, while the service-providing sector
added 58,000 workers.

Professional and business services added 86,000, while education and health
services increased payrolls by 40,000. Temporary help employment rose by
52,400.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , jsx_consultant
jsx-consult...@... wrote:

 Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA


 





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Re: [ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA

2009-12-04 Terurut Topik boyz®
USD index lom tembus2 MA50 pak hmin.
masih kasih sinyal reversal melulu dari bbrp bulan yg lalu,
belum konfirmasi.

Salam,


On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Cougar Boy boysngi...@gmail.com wrote:



 kaum bearish (hmin salah satunya) bear terhadap market..jadi long USD

 bullish (bull terhadap market) long stock

 dua-duanya coan malam ini

 haha


 On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:52 PM, JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com wrote:



  Quote: “kaum bearish dikasih duit... bullish pesta”



 Ini statement menarik…, tapi Sumpe ane ngga ngerti, more detail dong, Boss
 Halim..



 *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
 obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Cougar Boy
 *Sent:* 04 Desember 2009 22:36

 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA




 mantap.. USD menguat lol, dow ijo



 kaum bearish dikasih duit... bullish pesta...



 jarang banget bull dan bear duduk bersama haha.





 On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Syat dahsyat...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Nice, so far 5 stocks Adv dan 1 Decline, Gold 1200 ...
 Bisa jalan2 dulu sabtu minggu deh, hemat tenaga buat senin tapi lho!

 Cuu

 BB? clicks http://M.inilah.com/rubrik/ekonomi/pasar-modal/
  --

 *From: *billy_budiman92 billybudima...@gmail.com

 *Date: *Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:55:16 -

 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com

 *Subject: *[ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA





 Payrolls Fell Only 11,000 Last Month, Jobless Rate at 10%

 U.S. employers cut a far fewer-than-expected 11,000 jobs in November, the
 smallest decline since the start of the recession in December 2007,
 government data showed on Friday, strongly suggesting the deterioration in
 the labor market was in its final stages.

 AP

 The Labor Department said the unemployment rate fell to 10 percent from a
 26-1/2 year high of 10.2 percent in October.

 The government revised job losses for September and October to show
 159,000 fewer jobs lost than previously reported.

 Analysts polled by Reuters had expected non-farm payrolls to drop 130,000
 last month and the unemployment rate to hold steady at 10.2 percent.

 The data will take some pressure off President Barack Obama, a day after
 he appealed to the corporate sector, at a jobs summit he hosted, to join in
 the administration's employment creation efforts.

 While the economy has resumed growth after four straight quarters of
 decline, there are concerns that labor market weakness will prevent the
 recovery from becoming self-sustaining.

 Government spending is largely driving the economy's recovery from the
 worst recession in 70 years. Since December 2007, when the economy slipped
 into recession, 7.2 million jobs have been lost, the Labor Department said.

 But the pace of layoffs has slowed sharply from early this year.

 Analysts believe the bruised job market may be close to turning the
 corner, with jobs growth likely early next year.

 November's data was the strongest since December 2007, when jobs increased
 by 120,000. Payrolls have fallen every month since then.

 The improvement in the labor market last month was broad based, with four
 sectors, including the government, adding jobs.

 Manufacturing payrolls fell 41,000 after dropping 51,000 in October. The
 construction sector shed 27,000 jobs, while the service-providing sector
 added 58,000 workers.

 Professional and business services added 86,000, while education and
 health services increased payrolls by 40,000. Temporary help employment rose
 by 52,400.

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote:
 
  Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA
 






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Re: [ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA

2009-12-04 Terurut Topik Andre Andre
Gold down = USD strengthen/US finance up = Euro down/Commodities Down = 
Financial Up = Dow Up(Banking sector cap is big/engineered) = pusing sendiri 
wkkwkwkwkkw kaya maen pinball





From: Cougar Boy boysngi...@gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, December 4, 2009 10:56:14 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA

   
kaum bearish (hmin salah satunya) bear terhadap market..jadi long USD 

bullish (bull terhadap market) long stock

dua-duanya coan malam ini

haha


On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:52 PM, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com wrote:















  


 
  
 






Quote: “kaum bearish dikasih duit... bullish
pesta”
 
Ini statement
menarik…, tapi Sumpe ane ngga ngerti, more detail dong, Boss Halim.. 
 


From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
com] On Behalf Of Cougar Boy
Sent: 04 Desember 2009 22:36

To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA

 

mantap.. USD menguat lol, dow ijo

 

kaum bearish dikasih duit... bullish pesta...

 

jarang banget bull dan bear duduk bersama haha.

 

 

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Syat dahsyat...@yahoo. com wrote:

  



Nice, so far 5 stocks Adv dan 1 Decline, Gold
1200 ... 
Bisa jalan2 dulu sabtu minggu deh, hemat tenaga buat senin tapi lho!

Cuu
BB? clicks http://M.inilah. com/rubrik/ ekonomi/pasar- modal/


 


From: billy_budiman92
billybudiman92@ gmail.com



Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009
13:55:16 -


To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: [ob] Re: Index
Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA


 
  

Payrolls Fell Only 11,000 Last
Month, Jobless Rate at 10%

U.S. employers cut a far fewer-than-expected 11,000 jobs in November, the
smallest decline since the start of the recession in December 2007, government
data showed on Friday, strongly suggesting the deterioration in the labor
market was in its final stages.

AP

The Labor Department said the unemployment rate fell to 10 percent from a
26-1/2 year high of 10.2 percent in October.

The government revised job losses for September and October to show 159,000
fewer jobs lost than previously reported.

Analysts polled by Reuters had expected non-farm payrolls to drop 130,000 last
month and the unemployment rate to hold steady at 10.2 percent.

The data will take some pressure off President Barack Obama, a day after he
appealed to the corporate sector, at a jobs summit he hosted, to join in the
administration's employment creation efforts.

While the economy has resumed growth after four straight quarters of decline,
there are concerns that labor market weakness will prevent the recovery from
becoming self-sustaining.

Government spending is largely driving the economy's recovery from the worst
recession in 70 years. Since December 2007, when the economy slipped into
recession, 7.2 million jobs have been lost, the Labor Department said.

But the pace of layoffs has slowed sharply from early this year.

Analysts believe the bruised job market may be close to turning the corner,
with jobs growth likely early next year.

November's data was the strongest since December 2007, when jobs increased by
120,000. Payrolls have fallen every month since then.

The improvement in the labor market last month was broad based, with four
sectors, including the government, adding jobs.

Manufacturing payrolls fell 41,000 after dropping 51,000 in October. The
construction sector shed 27,000 jobs, while the service-providing sector added
58,000 workers.

Professional and business services added 86,000, while education and health
services increased payrolls by 40,000. Temporary help employment rose by
52,400.


--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com,
jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... wrote:

 Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA

 





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Re: [ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA

2009-12-04 Terurut Topik vividtrader
DJI awal sesi negative divergence ama EU..  ini TAL nya

2009/12/4 Cougar Boy boysngi...@gmail.com



 mantap.. USD menguat lol, dow ijo

 kaum bearish dikasih duit... bullish pesta...

 jarang banget bull dan bear duduk bersama haha.



 On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Syat dahsyat...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Nice, so far 5 stocks Adv dan 1 Decline, Gold 1200 ...
 Bisa jalan2 dulu sabtu minggu deh, hemat tenaga buat senin tapi lho!

 Cuu

 BB clicks http://M.inilah.com/rubrik/ekonomi/pasar-modal/
 --
 *From: * billy_budiman92 billybudima...@gmail.com
 *Date: *Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:55:16 -
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *[ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA



 Payrolls Fell Only 11,000 Last Month, Jobless Rate at 10%

 U.S. employers cut a far fewer-than-expected 11,000 jobs in November, the
 smallest decline since the start of the recession in December 2007,
 government data showed on Friday, strongly suggesting the deterioration in
 the labor market was in its final stages.

 AP

 The Labor Department said the unemployment rate fell to 10 percent from a
 26-1/2 year high of 10.2 percent in October.

 The government revised job losses for September and October to show
 159,000 fewer jobs lost than previously reported.

 Analysts polled by Reuters had expected non-farm payrolls to drop 130,000
 last month and the unemployment rate to hold steady at 10.2 percent.

 The data will take some pressure off President Barack Obama, a day after
 he appealed to the corporate sector, at a jobs summit he hosted, to join in
 the administration's employment creation efforts.

 While the economy has resumed growth after four straight quarters of
 decline, there are concerns that labor market weakness will prevent the
 recovery from becoming self-sustaining.

 Government spending is largely driving the economy's recovery from the
 worst recession in 70 years. Since December 2007, when the economy slipped
 into recession, 7.2 million jobs have been lost, the Labor Department said.

 But the pace of layoffs has slowed sharply from early this year.

 Analysts believe the bruised job market may be close to turning the
 corner, with jobs growth likely early next year.

 November's data was the strongest since December 2007, when jobs increased
 by 120,000. Payrolls have fallen every month since then.

 The improvement in the labor market last month was broad based, with four
 sectors, including the government, adding jobs.

 Manufacturing payrolls fell 41,000 after dropping 51,000 in October. The
 construction sector shed 27,000 jobs, while the service-providing sector
 added 58,000 workers.

 Professional and business services added 86,000, while education and
 health services increased payrolls by 40,000. Temporary help employment rose
 by 52,400.

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote:
 
  Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA
 




 



Opsss.... USD Re: [ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA

2009-12-04 Terurut Topik Cougar Boy
aproaching key level 76.

Kemarin ketahan di 75.98,.. *USD bull baru confirm kalau USD Index break and
close above 76*

Secara TA baru ada tanda-tanda reversal seperti divergence..cuman belum
valid.. penembusan sebelumnya sudah gagal 1x.

Sebenarnya tanda-tanda reversal USD sudah tampak dari 6 minggu lalu. Salah
satu mantan sesepun OB Bapak Eka Suwandana sudah memberitahu adanya
aktifitas di UUP (ETF power share dari USD). Peningkatan volume di UUP sejak
awal november memberikan tanda-tanda adanya reversal dari USD. Mungkin ini
yang menyebabkan permainan saham 6 minggu terakhir serasa kurang nyaman.

Nah.. efek USD bagaimana ? Ini yang perlu kita cermati.
Positif:
Sebenarnya penguatan USD tidaklah jelek dan jelas bagus untuk sektor riil.
Ekonomi dunia bisa kembali ke posisi balance. Selama ini pelemahan USD tidak
disukai, apalagi dengan di peng-nya posisi YUAN terhadap USD. Kalau USD
terus-terusan melemah, maka YUAN akan ikut melemah dan membuat barang-barang
asal China menjadi murah.. kalau diteruskan akan membuat negara lain serba
salah. Ikut melemahkan mata uang dengan resiko inflasi atau membiarkan aja
usd melemah dengan resiko industri manufaktur dalam negeri mati.

Negatif:
Selama ini penguatan bursa selalu dikaitkan dengan adanya dana murah dari
USD. Walaupun tidak semua berasal dari dana murah.. tentunya tidak bisa
dipungkiri bahwa dana panas dari USD itu ada. Nah sekarang tinggal adu kuat
aja... kalau penguatan IHSG/ saham bisa mengalahkan penguatan USD terhadap
IDR.. dana panas akan stay. Kalau tidak mereka  akan reduce. (hal ini pernah
terjadi sepanjang 2005.. walaupun akhirnya KO juga)

Saran:
Don't be to worry about penguatan USD.. ini sehat. Cuman jangan terlalu
greed juga bilang tidak akan ada masalah dengan BEI. Pasti ada efek
samping.. walaupun tidak instant.

Tidak ada salahnya belajar FA.. kalau saham sudah mahal dan berat naik.. gak
ada salahnya dikurangi.. daripada kena guyuran cuman bisa melongo.

to pak JT,
Bagaimana analisa UUP dan USD-Index.. minta saran dong

Regards,
Cougar

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:16 PM, boyz® m457...@gmail.com wrote:



 USD index lom tembus2 MA50 pak hmin.
 masih kasih sinyal reversal melulu dari bbrp bulan yg lalu,
 belum konfirmasi.

 Salam,



 On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Cougar Boy boysngi...@gmail.com wrote:



 kaum bearish (hmin salah satunya) bear terhadap market..jadi long USD

 bullish (bull terhadap market) long stock

 dua-duanya coan malam ini

 haha


 On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:52 PM, JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com wrote:



  Quote: “kaum bearish dikasih duit... bullish pesta”



 Ini statement menarik…, tapi Sumpe ane ngga ngerti, more detail dong,
 Boss Halim..



 *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
 obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Cougar Boy
 *Sent:* 04 Desember 2009 22:36

 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA




 mantap.. USD menguat lol, dow ijo



 kaum bearish dikasih duit... bullish pesta...



 jarang banget bull dan bear duduk bersama haha.





 On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Syat dahsyat...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Nice, so far 5 stocks Adv dan 1 Decline, Gold 1200 ...
 Bisa jalan2 dulu sabtu minggu deh, hemat tenaga buat senin tapi lho!

 Cuu

 BB? clicks http://M.inilah.com/rubrik/ekonomi/pasar-modal/
  --

 *From: *billy_budiman92 billybudima...@gmail.com

 *Date: *Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:55:16 -

 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com

 *Subject: *[ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA





 Payrolls Fell Only 11,000 Last Month, Jobless Rate at 10%

 U.S. employers cut a far fewer-than-expected 11,000 jobs in November, the
 smallest decline since the start of the recession in December 2007,
 government data showed on Friday, strongly suggesting the deterioration in
 the labor market was in its final stages.

 AP

 The Labor Department said the unemployment rate fell to 10 percent from a
 26-1/2 year high of 10.2 percent in October.

 The government revised job losses for September and October to show
 159,000 fewer jobs lost than previously reported.

 Analysts polled by Reuters had expected non-farm payrolls to drop 130,000
 last month and the unemployment rate to hold steady at 10.2 percent.

 The data will take some pressure off President Barack Obama, a day after
 he appealed to the corporate sector, at a jobs summit he hosted, to join in
 the administration's employment creation efforts.

 While the economy has resumed growth after four straight quarters of
 decline, there are concerns that labor market weakness will prevent the
 recovery from becoming self-sustaining.

 Government spending is largely driving the economy's recovery from the
 worst recession in 70 years. Since December 2007, when the economy slipped
 into recession, 7.2 million jobs have been lost, the Labor Department said.

 But the pace of layoffs has slowed sharply from early this year.

 Analysts believe the bruised job

Re: Opsss.... USD Re: [ob] Re: Index Eropa dan Amerika naik TIBA TIBA

2009-12-04 Terurut Topik Vernichtung
Dimana ya pak Eka, sudah lama banget gak posting di OB.

2009/12/5 Cougar Boy boysngi...@gmail.com



 aproaching key level 76.

 Kemarin ketahan di 75.98,.. *USD bull baru confirm kalau USD Index break
 and close above 76*

 Secara TA baru ada tanda-tanda reversal seperti divergence..cuman belum
 valid.. penembusan sebelumnya sudah gagal 1x.

 Sebenarnya tanda-tanda reversal USD sudah tampak dari 6 minggu lalu. Salah
 satu mantan sesepun OB Bapak Eka Suwandana sudah memberitahu adanya
 aktifitas di UUP (ETF power share dari USD). Peningkatan volume di UUP sejak
 awal november memberikan tanda-tanda adanya reversal dari USD. Mungkin ini
 yang menyebabkan permainan saham 6 minggu terakhir serasa kurang nyaman.

 Nah.. efek USD bagaimana ? Ini yang perlu kita cermati.
 Positif:
 Sebenarnya penguatan USD tidaklah jelek dan jelas bagus untuk sektor riil.
 Ekonomi dunia bisa kembali ke posisi balance. Selama ini pelemahan USD tidak
 disukai, apalagi dengan di peng-nya posisi YUAN terhadap USD. Kalau USD
 terus-terusan melemah, maka YUAN akan ikut melemah dan membuat barang-barang
 asal China menjadi murah.. kalau diteruskan akan membuat negara lain serba
 salah. Ikut melemahkan mata uang dengan resiko inflasi atau membiarkan aja
 usd melemah dengan resiko industri manufaktur dalam negeri mati.

 Negatif:
 Selama ini penguatan bursa selalu dikaitkan dengan adanya dana murah dari
 USD. Walaupun tidak semua berasal dari dana murah.. tentunya tidak bisa
 dipungkiri bahwa dana panas dari USD itu ada. Nah sekarang tinggal adu kuat
 aja... kalau penguatan IHSG/ saham bisa mengalahkan penguatan USD terhadap
 IDR.. dana panas akan stay. Kalau tidak mereka  akan reduce. (hal ini pernah
 terjadi sepanjang 2005.. walaupun akhirnya KO juga)

 Saran:
 Don't be to worry about penguatan USD.. ini sehat. Cuman jangan terlalu
 greed juga bilang tidak akan ada masalah dengan BEI. Pasti ada efek
 samping.. walaupun tidak instant.

 Tidak ada salahnya belajar FA.. kalau saham sudah mahal dan berat naik..
 gak ada salahnya dikurangi.. daripada kena guyuran cuman bisa melongo.

 to pak JT,
 Bagaimana analisa UUP dan USD-Index.. minta saran dong

 Regards,
 Cougar