Re: [obrolan-bandar] AALI target 15.000

2008-08-08 Terurut Topik James Arifin
Kalau sudah diMARK DOWN begitu kok pusing amat, yah tinggal SHORT aja ...

On 8/8/08, Kidod25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   saya ga tau siapa yg buat??

 Downgrading Astra Agro to Sell (from Buy)

 Our rating and earnings estimate downgrades reflect serious
 deterioration in palm

 oil price outlook and much higher production costs. We believe the
 market still

 underestimates these developments, particularly sharply rising
 fertiliser prices.

 Our sensitivity shows Astra Agro's net earnings fall by 2.2% and 2.8%
 for every

 1% decline in palm oil price and 5% increase in production cost,
 respectively.

 Double hit for Astra Agro

 We expect significant deterioration in its earnings and margin
 outlook starting

 2H08 owing to lower palm oil prices and higher production costs. Both
 greater

 palm oil production and a bumper soybean crop in the US have weakened
 CPO

 price outlook (already 21% off its recent high in June 2008).
 Meanwhile, we

 forecast margin pressures from rising production costs to persist
 amid sharply

 rising fertiliser prices particularly for potash and phosphate.

 Reducing EBIT forecasts by 17-40% for 2008-10

 Our downward revisions reflect a 7-19% reduction in the CPO price
 assumption

 and a 21-34% increase in production cost/kg. We cut CPO price
 assumptions

 following deterioration in palm oil outlook, especially due to
 greater-than-expected

 palm oil production and a bumper soybean crop in the US. Meanwhile,
 the rise in

 production cost is due to a steep 100-200% rise in fertiliser cost in
 past 6 months.

 Lowering TP to Rp15,000 from Rp31,500

 The TP revision reflects our earnings est. downgrades following lower
 CPO price

 and higher production costs and WACC rate. We derive the TP based on
 a 10-year

 DCF valuation using 16% (from 14%) WACC and 2.5% TG (page 6). Upside
 risks

 include lowering production costs, securing land bank and seedlings
 to expand its

 plantation, and securing/renewing necessary land licensing (page 6).

 



Re: [obrolan-bandar] AALI target 15.000

2008-08-08 Terurut Topik rudd haas
Hati2 aja short kalau harganya udah di bawah. Kemarin CITI downgrade PGAS ke 
1875, 2 hari kemudian harganya malah melejit ke 2,500

--- On Fri, 8/8/08, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] AALI target 15.000
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 1:28 PM






Kalau sudah diMARK DOWN begitu kok pusing amat, yah tinggal SHORT aja ... 


On 8/8/08, Kidod25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: 





saya ga tau siapa yg buat??

Downgrading Astra Agro to Sell (from Buy)

Our rating and earnings estimate downgrades reflect serious 
deterioration in palm

oil price outlook and much higher production costs. We believe the 
market still

underestimates these developments, particularly sharply rising 
fertiliser prices.

Our sensitivity shows Astra Agro's net earnings fall by 2.2% and 2.8% 
for every

1% decline in palm oil price and 5% increase in production cost, 
respectively.

Double hit for Astra Agro

We expect significant deterioration in its earnings and margin 
outlook starting

2H08 owing to lower palm oil prices and higher production costs. Both 
greater

palm oil production and a bumper soybean crop in the US have weakened 
CPO

price outlook (already 21% off its recent high in June 2008). 
Meanwhile, we

forecast margin pressures from rising production costs to persist 
amid sharply

rising fertiliser prices particularly for potash and phosphate.

Reducing EBIT forecasts by 17-40% for 2008-10

Our downward revisions reflect a 7-19% reduction in the CPO price 
assumption

and a 21-34% increase in production cost/kg. We cut CPO price 
assumptions

following deterioration in palm oil outlook, especially due to 
greater-than- expected

palm oil production and a bumper soybean crop in the US. Meanwhile, 
the rise in

production cost is due to a steep 100-200% rise in fertiliser cost in 
past 6 months.

Lowering TP to Rp15,000 from Rp31,500

The TP revision reflects our earnings est. downgrades following lower 
CPO price

and higher production costs and WACC rate. We derive the TP based on 
a 10-year

DCF valuation using 16% (from 14%) WACC and 2.5% TG (page 6). Upside 
risks

include lowering production costs, securing land bank and seedlings 
to expand its

plantation, and securing/renewing necessary land licensing (page 6).


 












  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] AALI target 15.000

2008-08-08 Terurut Topik rudd haas
Hati2 aja short kalau harganya udah di bawah. Kemarin CITI downgrade PGAS ke 
1875, 2 hari kemudian harganya malah melejit ke 2,500

--- On Fri, 8/8/08, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] AALI target 15.000
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 1:28 PM






Kalau sudah diMARK DOWN begitu kok pusing amat, yah tinggal SHORT aja ... 


On 8/8/08, Kidod25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: 





saya ga tau siapa yg buat??

Downgrading Astra Agro to Sell (from Buy)

Our rating and earnings estimate downgrades reflect serious 
deterioration in palm

oil price outlook and much higher production costs. We believe the 
market still

underestimates these developments, particularly sharply rising 
fertiliser prices.

Our sensitivity shows Astra Agro's net earnings fall by 2.2% and 2.8% 
for every

1% decline in palm oil price and 5% increase in production cost, 
respectively.

Double hit for Astra Agro

We expect significant deterioration in its earnings and margin 
outlook starting

2H08 owing to lower palm oil prices and higher production costs. Both 
greater

palm oil production and a bumper soybean crop in the US have weakened 
CPO

price outlook (already 21% off its recent high in June 2008). 
Meanwhile, we

forecast margin pressures from rising production costs to persist 
amid sharply

rising fertiliser prices particularly for potash and phosphate.

Reducing EBIT forecasts by 17-40% for 2008-10

Our downward revisions reflect a 7-19% reduction in the CPO price 
assumption

and a 21-34% increase in production cost/kg. We cut CPO price 
assumptions

following deterioration in palm oil outlook, especially due to 
greater-than- expected

palm oil production and a bumper soybean crop in the US. Meanwhile, 
the rise in

production cost is due to a steep 100-200% rise in fertiliser cost in 
past 6 months.

Lowering TP to Rp15,000 from Rp31,500

The TP revision reflects our earnings est. downgrades following lower 
CPO price

and higher production costs and WACC rate. We derive the TP based on 
a 10-year

DCF valuation using 16% (from 14%) WACC and 2.5% TG (page 6). Upside 
risks

include lowering production costs, securing land bank and seedlings 
to expand its

plantation, and securing/renewing necessary land licensing (page 6).


 














  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] AALI target 15.000

2008-08-08 Terurut Topik Albert Einstein
DB yg downgrade ke 15 k, tapi kok hari ini doi ga jualan 1 lot pun?

h..

sekuritas yang aneh...

atau DB suruh kita2 jualan dan dia nampung di 15 k? 

h..

bau amis.

--- On Fri, 8/8/08, rudd haas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: rudd haas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] AALI target 15.000
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 6:42 AM











Hati2 aja short kalau harganya udah di bawah. Kemarin CITI 
downgrade PGAS ke 1875, 2 hari kemudian harganya malah melejit ke 2,500

--- On Fri, 8/8/08, James Arifin james.arifin@ gmail.com wrote:

From: James Arifin james.arifin@ gmail.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] AALI target 15.000
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 1:28 PM




Kalau sudah diMARK DOWN begitu kok pusing amat, yah tinggal SHORT aja ... 


On 8/8/08, Kidod25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: 





saya ga tau siapa yg buat??

Downgrading Astra Agro to Sell (from Buy)

Our rating and earnings estimate downgrades reflect serious 
deterioration in palm

oil price outlook and much higher production costs. We believe the 
market still

underestimates these developments, particularly sharply rising 
fertiliser prices.

Our sensitivity shows Astra Agro's net earnings fall by 2.2% and 2.8% 
for every

1% decline in palm oil price and 5% increase in production cost, 
respectively.

Double hit for Astra Agro

We expect significant deterioration in its earnings and margin 
outlook starting

2H08 owing to lower palm oil prices and higher production costs. Both 
greater

palm oil production and a bumper soybean crop in the US have weakened 
CPO

price outlook (already 21% off its recent high in June 2008). 
Meanwhile, we

forecast margin pressures from
 rising production costs to persist 
amid sharply

rising fertiliser prices particularly for potash and phosphate.

Reducing EBIT forecasts by 17-40% for 2008-10

Our downward revisions reflect a 7-19% reduction in the CPO price 
assumption

and a 21-34% increase in production cost/kg. We cut CPO price 
assumptions

following deterioration in palm oil outlook, especially due to 
greater-than- expected

palm oil production and a bumper soybean crop in the US. Meanwhile, 
the rise in

production cost is due to a steep 100-200% rise in fertiliser cost in 
past 6 months.

Lowering TP to Rp15,000 from Rp31,500

The TP revision reflects our earnings est. downgrades following lower 
CPO price

and higher production costs and WACC rate. We derive the TP based on 
a 10-year

DCF valuation using 16% (from 14%) WACC and 2.5% TG (page 6). Upside 
risks

include
 lowering production costs, securing land bank and seedlings 
to expand its

plantation, and securing/renewing necessary land licensing (page 6).








  




 

















  

[obrolan-bandar] AALI target 15.000

2008-08-07 Terurut Topik Kidod25
saya ga tau siapa yg buat??

Downgrading Astra Agro to Sell (from Buy)

Our rating and earnings estimate downgrades reflect serious 
deterioration in palm

oil price outlook and much higher production costs. We believe the 
market still

underestimates these developments, particularly sharply rising 
fertiliser prices.

Our sensitivity shows Astra Agro's net earnings fall by 2.2% and 2.8% 
for every

1% decline in palm oil price and 5% increase in production cost, 
respectively.

Double hit for Astra Agro

We expect significant deterioration in its earnings and margin 
outlook starting

2H08 owing to lower palm oil prices and higher production costs. Both 
greater

palm oil production and a bumper soybean crop in the US have weakened 
CPO

price outlook (already 21% off its recent high in June 2008). 
Meanwhile, we

forecast margin pressures from rising production costs to persist 
amid sharply

rising fertiliser prices particularly for potash and phosphate.

Reducing EBIT forecasts by 17-40% for 2008-10

Our downward revisions reflect a 7-19% reduction in the CPO price 
assumption

and a 21-34% increase in production cost/kg. We cut CPO price 
assumptions

following deterioration in palm oil outlook, especially due to 
greater-than-expected

palm oil production and a bumper soybean crop in the US. Meanwhile, 
the rise in

production cost is due to a steep 100-200% rise in fertiliser cost in 
past 6 months.

Lowering TP to Rp15,000 from Rp31,500

The TP revision reflects our earnings est. downgrades following lower 
CPO price

and higher production costs and WACC rate. We derive the TP based on 
a 10-year

DCF valuation using 16% (from 14%) WACC and 2.5% TG (page 6). Upside 
risks

include lowering production costs, securing land bank and seedlings 
to expand its

plantation, and securing/renewing necessary land licensing (page 6).




Re: [obrolan-bandar] AALI target 15.000

2008-08-07 Terurut Topik simon bolenang
Ada peluang di balik berita buruk.Kita tunggu aje deh di harga bawah

--- On Fri, 8/8/08, Kidod25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Kidod25 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] AALI target 15.000
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 12:28 AM











saya ga tau siapa yg buat??



Downgrading Astra Agro to Sell (from Buy)



Our rating and earnings estimate downgrades reflect serious 

deterioration in palm



oil price outlook and much higher production costs. We believe the 

market still



underestimates these developments, particularly sharply rising 

fertiliser prices.



Our sensitivity shows Astra Agro's net earnings fall by 2.2% and 2.8% 

for every



1% decline in palm oil price and 5% increase in production cost, 

respectively.



Double hit for Astra Agro



We expect significant deterioration in its earnings and margin 

outlook starting



2H08 owing to lower palm oil prices and higher production costs. Both 

greater



palm oil production and a bumper soybean crop in the US have weakened 

CPO



price outlook (already 21% off its recent high in June 2008). 

Meanwhile, we



forecast margin pressures from rising production costs to persist 

amid sharply



rising fertiliser prices particularly for potash and phosphate.



Reducing EBIT forecasts by 17-40% for 2008-10



Our downward revisions reflect a 7-19% reduction in the CPO price 

assumption



and a 21-34% increase in production cost/kg. We cut CPO price 

assumptions



following deterioration in palm oil outlook, especially due to 

greater-than- expected



palm oil production and a bumper soybean crop in the US. Meanwhile, 

the rise in



production cost is due to a steep 100-200% rise in fertiliser cost in 

past 6 months.



Lowering TP to Rp15,000 from Rp31,500



The TP revision reflects our earnings est. downgrades following lower 

CPO price



and higher production costs and WACC rate. We derive the TP based on 

a 10-year



DCF valuation using 16% (from 14%) WACC and 2.5% TG (page 6). Upside 

risks



include lowering production costs, securing land bank and seedlings 

to expand its



plantation, and securing/renewing necessary land licensing (page 6).