Re: [obrolan-bandar] FW: Day Trading: Your Dollars at Risk

2006-11-01 Terurut Topik Hotma Sirait
Do Not Day Trade

One type of stock trading you definitely do not want to engage in is day 
trading, or day-to-day trading, where you try to buy and sell a stock on the 
same day. The reason is simple. You are dealing with minor daily fluctuations 
which are much harder to determine than are basic trends. 
There is not enough profit potential in daily trading to offset the commissions 
you generate and the inevitable losses that occur. As mentioned before, you 
also should not follow a program of taking short, two-point profits, because 
again your margin of profit is too small to offset larger losses, which in time 
must happen. Don't try to make money so fast. You can't build Rome in a day.

(dikutip dari William J O'Neil - How To Make Money In Stocks hal. 111)

regards,

hotma sirait

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- Original Message 
From: Siswa Rizali [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 11:35:30 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] FW: Day Trading: Your Dollars at Risk


pasar loyo, enakan baca2 buat nambah elmu.

buat bukti empiris, lihat:
Do Individual Day Traders Make Money? Evidence from Taiwan 
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=529063

salam,
rz

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http://www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/daytips.htm
Day Trading: Your Dollars at Risk
Day traders rapidly buy and sell stocks throughout the day in the 
hope that their stocks will continue climbing or falling in value for 
the seconds to minutes they own the stock, allowing them to lock in 
quick profits. Day traders usually buy on borrowed money, hoping that 
they will reap higher profits through leverage, but running the risk 
of higher losses too. 
While day trading is neither illegal nor is it unethical, it can be 
highly risky.  Most individual investors do not have the wealth, the 
time, or the temperament to make money and to sustain the devastating 
losses that day trading can bring. 
Here are some of the facts that every investor should know about day 
trading: 
•Be prepared to suffer severe financial losses
Day traders typically suffer severe financial losses in their first 
months of trading, and many never graduate to profit-making status. 
Given these outcomes, it's clear: day traders should only risk money 
they can afford to lose. They should never use money they will need 
for daily living expenses, retirement, take out a second mortgage, or 
use their student loan money for day trading.
•Day traders do not invest
Day traders sit in front of computer screens and look for a stock 
that is either moving up or down in value. They want to ride the 
momentum of the stock and get out of the stock before it changes 
course. They do not know for certain how the stock will move, they 
are hoping that it will move in one direction, either up or down in 
value. True day traders do not own any stocks overnight because of 
the extreme risk that prices will change radically from one day to 
the next, leading to large losses.
•Day trading is an extremely stressful and expensive full-time 
job 
Day traders must watch the market continuously during the day at 
their computer terminals. It's extremely difficult and demands great 
concentration to watch dozens of ticker quotes and price fluctuations 
to spot market trends. Day traders also have high expenses, paying 
their firms large amounts in commissions, for training, and for 
computers. Any day trader should know up front how much they need to 
make to cover expenses and break even.
•Day traders depend heavily on borrowing money or buying 
stocks on margin 
Borrowing money to trade in stocks is always a risky business. Day 
trading strategies demand using the leverage of borrowed money to 
make profits. This is why many day traders lose all their money and 
may end up in debt as well. Day traders should understand how margin 
works, how much time they'll have to meet a margin call, and the 
potential for getting in over their heads.
•Don't believe claims of easy profits
Don't believe advertising claims that promise quick and sure profits 
from day trading. Before you start trading with a firm, make sure you 
know how many clients have lost money and how many have made profits. 
If the firm does not know, or will not tell you, think twice about 
the risks you take in the face of ignorance.
•Watch out for hot tips and expert advice from newsletters 
and websites catering to day traders
Some websites have sought to profit from day traders by offering them 
hot tips and stock picks for a fee. Once again, don't believe any 
claims that trumpet the easy profits of day trading. Check out these 
sources thoroughly and ask them if they have been paid to make their 
recommendations.
•Remember that educational seminars, classes, and books 
about day trading may not be objective
Find out whether a seminar speaker, an instructor teaching a class, 
or an author of a publication about day trading stands to profit if 
you

[obrolan-bandar] FW: Day Trading: Your Dollars at Risk

2006-10-30 Terurut Topik Siswa Rizali
pasar loyo, enakan baca2 buat nambah elmu.

buat bukti empiris, lihat:
Do Individual Day Traders Make Money? Evidence from Taiwan 
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=529063

salam,
rz

===.

http://www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/daytips.htm
Day Trading: Your Dollars at Risk
Day traders rapidly buy and sell stocks throughout the day in the 
hope that their stocks will continue climbing or falling in value for 
the seconds to minutes they own the stock, allowing them to lock in 
quick profits. Day traders usually buy on borrowed money, hoping that 
they will reap higher profits through leverage, but running the risk 
of higher losses too. 
While day trading is neither illegal nor is it unethical, it can be 
highly risky.  Most individual investors do not have the wealth, the 
time, or the temperament to make money and to sustain the devastating 
losses that day trading can bring. 
Here are some of the facts that every investor should know about day 
trading: 
•   Be prepared to suffer severe financial losses
Day traders typically suffer severe financial losses in their first 
months of trading, and many never graduate to profit-making status. 
Given these outcomes, it's clear: day traders should only risk money 
they can afford to lose. They should never use money they will need 
for daily living expenses, retirement, take out a second mortgage, or 
use their student loan money for day trading.
•   Day traders do not invest
Day traders sit in front of computer screens and look for a stock 
that is either moving up or down in value. They want to ride the 
momentum of the stock and get out of the stock before it changes 
course. They do not know for certain how the stock will move, they 
are hoping that it will move in one direction, either up or down in 
value. True day traders do not own any stocks overnight because of 
the extreme risk that prices will change radically from one day to 
the next, leading to large losses.
•   Day trading is an extremely stressful and expensive full-time 
job 
Day traders must watch the market continuously during the day at 
their computer terminals. It's extremely difficult and demands great 
concentration to watch dozens of ticker quotes and price fluctuations 
to spot market trends. Day traders also have high expenses, paying 
their firms large amounts in commissions, for training, and for 
computers. Any day trader should know up front how much they need to 
make to cover expenses and break even.
•   Day traders depend heavily on borrowing money or buying 
stocks on margin 
Borrowing money to trade in stocks is always a risky business. Day 
trading strategies demand using the leverage of borrowed money to 
make profits. This is why many day traders lose all their money and 
may end up in debt as well. Day traders should understand how margin 
works, how much time they'll have to meet a margin call, and the 
potential for getting in over their heads.
•   Don't believe claims of easy profits
Don't believe advertising claims that promise quick and sure profits 
from day trading. Before you start trading with a firm, make sure you 
know how many clients have lost money and how many have made profits. 
If the firm does not know, or will not tell you, think twice about 
the risks you take in the face of ignorance.
•   Watch out for hot tips and expert advice from newsletters 
and websites catering to day traders
Some websites have sought to profit from day traders by offering them 
hot tips and stock picks for a fee. Once again, don't believe any 
claims that trumpet the easy profits of day trading. Check out these 
sources thoroughly and ask them if they have been paid to make their 
recommendations.
•   Remember that educational seminars, classes, and books 
about day trading may not be objective
Find out whether a seminar speaker, an instructor teaching a class, 
or an author of a publication about day trading stands to profit if 
you start day trading.
•   Check out day trading firms with your state securities 
regulator
Like all broker-dealers, day trading firms must register with the SEC 
and the states in which they do business. Confirm registration by 
calling your state securities regulator and at the same time ask if 
the firm has a record of problems with regulators or their customers. 
You can find the telephone number for your state securities regulator 
in the government section of your phone book or by calling the North 
American Securities Administrators Association at (202) 737-0900. 
NASAA also provides this information on its website at 
www.nasaa.org/QuickLinks/ContactYourRegulator.cfm. 
http://www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/daytips.htm


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 geeezsorry...i cant help commenting on money management...it 
sounds funny... if you mean margin, yours will be eaten by 
operational risk...but, if you talk about a day trade, it's too small 
to