[obrolan-bandar] Re: THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)
no, DJ 6k is far from too much. if the bottom is 6k, i'd say it's very lenient. i'm very confident about the 6k, while personally i believe it can go to even 4k or lower. D-word, EL. D-word. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *You mean 12k in 6 months? llloolll.. ^_^ kinda too much to ask but who knows? Elaine** * On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:55 AM, pemainedan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For DJ I accept you challenge, EL. DJ will go 6k in next 12 months. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui elainesui83@ wrote: *Blah. BUY more! The statement below was valid only if been stated a year ago. Next year, when DJI breaks above 11k, you won't be so sure anymore about your 'release'... ha ha ha... Market goes up and down, so volatile you would miss the TREND. Sure, the economy stumbles, but It won't fall. Smart people, those like Buffett and Soros, would see this as a rare good opportunity. I see it too, so I'll let you guys know. Hell, IDX shouldn't fall below 2k if there' was no BUMI around. Now I challenge you, IDX will be well above 1800 over the next 6 months, DJI above 11K, crude oil around $70 - $90. Elaine** * On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Ratu Sima RATUSIMA@ wrote: Embah, let Aimee clarify I am inspired to say this as I smell a major misapprehension. I need to stay poised. You can adopt it as the different version of the global market watch. Let me exclaim it out loud. THE MARKET IS STILL BEARISH. Temporary positive correction will keep on quite sometime, though. At the beginning of New Year 2009, rebalancing portfolio is STILL indispensable. HOWEVER, the quandary that we will encounter next year is much harder. Let me verify plainly as follows: 1. Oil price still remains volatile. Despite Iran's challenge of its resistance power, Arab's King's recall of $75 and OPEC's breathless effort to establish supply demand equilibrium, the sudden oil price increase is NOT likely to happen. This is due to imperfect timing and momentum. In addition, the speculators who have bubbled oil to $147 are still bearish-minded as well. How do they work? Oil commodities speculators exploit `buy roll-over strategy' in their trading tactic. It is also attributed to the market failure factor. THIS confirms how oil had bubbled in a stunningly way up to July 08. After successfully READING the recession scenario and substantial demand's decline, they cashed out, quit, and oil price crashed. Don't also forget that oil price movement is in line with GDP and stock market's growth. Both Iran and Arab have stubbornly-smart brain. Not only they produce oil massively but they have also hoarded it in their expensively- rented tankers. I giggled aloud when the President proclaimed that IRAN is safe even if the oil price goes down to $5. Regrettably, oil is the pilot for commodities, energy and agriculture sector. If oil price is still insecure, be extra cautious and alert at these LINES UP. ESPECIALLY if the company is seriously fundamentally rotten, indebted and defaulted. 2. The credit bubble in the Wonderland far away there is still ACCUTE. A few people can really comprehend how the credit bubble has brought the Wonderland into a state of coma. The bad magic of credit bubble lies on its fractional-reserve system. With easy example of reserve ratio 9 : 1, the deposit of $10.000 will create loan money of $90.000 by commercial fin parties. The ratio can be made in 20 : 1 or even 30 : 1. New dogma was then FALSELY created, MONEY = CREDIT, CREDIT = MONEY. The arrangement depends on the negotiation and charter's agreement. This has precipitated not only on individual level, but the vast majority on business and industrial sectors in the Wonderland (learn from Washington Mutual's case). Not only at banking, housing, financial, consumption and manufacturing sector, but prevalently at all sectors. This has triggered European countries urge back the world to return to Bretton Woods. To fix this avalanche, the Omama administration (the president of the Wonderland his economic team) needs long time process. 3. As my last posting was undeniably true, please now enjoy the moment of temporary up. This will consume sometime before the Lunar Eclipse (Quarter 2 - 3 of 2009). The Lunar Eclipse will be signalized by the designation of THE 5th ELLIOT WOLVE'S MIDNIGHT BARK (read: Elliot Wave 5) on the frontier which will bring the LORD DOW with the hang rope . To conclude, this is my new single release: `Welcome Hang Rope 2009'. And with Indonesia: I do PRAY that
[obrolan-bandar] Re: THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)
and you don't like my confidence level?? hehehe... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i like your level of confident el.. Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean 12k in 6 months? llloolll.. ^_^ kinda too much to ask but who knows? Elaine On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:55 AM, pemainedan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For DJ I accept you challenge, EL. DJ will go 6k in next 12 months.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)
Justru kemarin saya sempat terperangah (asli lho.. :P), dengan keyakinan bapak.. :) Ga tahu nie, belakangan ini saya lebih demen ama lokal-an punya, kembali ke selera asal kali yach. Abisnya yg import-an gtu sie, ya yg asli.. ya yg blasteran.. kuciwa gtu lah hehehe.. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, pemainedan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and you don't like my confidence level?? hehehe... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Chase chase.vincent@ wrote: i like your level of confident el.. Elaine Sui elainesui83@ wrote: You mean 12k in 6 months? llloolll.. ^_^ kinda too much to ask but who knows? Elaine On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:55 AM, pemainedan pemainedan@ wrote: For DJ I accept you challenge, EL. DJ will go 6k in next 12 months.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)
apakah anda short-seller? 2008/12/2 pemainedan [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you don't like my confidence level?? hehehe... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Vincent Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i like your level of confident el.. Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean 12k in 6 months? llloolll.. ^_^ kinda too much to ask but who knows? Elaine On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:55 AM, pemainedan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For DJ I accept you challenge, EL. DJ will go 6k in next 12 months.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)
kalau banyak yg bilang buy pertanda stagnan nih hehehe. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, artomoro9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blah. jagat MILIS OB mulai rame. BUY MORE !!! artomoro9 (dont sell anything) ps: (trio macan jogetnya bikin melayang) Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blah. BUY more! The statement below was valid only if been stated a year ago. Next year, when DJI breaks above 11k, you won't be so sure anymore about your 'release'... ha ha ha... Market goes up and down, so volatile you would miss the TREND. Sure, the economy stumbles, but It won't fall. Smart people, those like Buffett and Soros, would see this as a rare good opportunity. I see it too, so I'll let you guys know. Hell, IDX shouldn't fall below 2k if there' was no BUMI around. Now I challenge you, IDX will be well above 1800 over the next 6 months, DJI above 11K, crude oil around $70 - $90. Elaine On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Ratu Sima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Embah, let Aimee clarify⦠I am inspired to say this as I smell a major misapprehension. I need to stay poised. You can adopt it as the different version of the global market watch. Let me exclaim it out loud. THE MARKET IS STILL BEARISH. Temporary positive correction will keep on quite sometime, though. At the beginning of New Year 2009, rebalancing portfolio is STILL indispensable. HOWEVER, the quandary that we will encounter next year is much harder. Let me verify plainly as follows: 1. Oil price still remains volatile. Despite Iran's challenge of its resistance power, Arab's King's recall of $75 and OPEC's breathless effort to establish supply demand equilibrium, the sudden oil price increase is NOT likely to happen. This is due to imperfect timing and momentum. In addition, the speculators who have bubbled oil to $147 are still bearish-minded as well. How do they work? Oil commodities speculators exploit `buy roll-over strategy' in their trading tactic. It is also attributed to the market failure factor. THIS confirms how oil had bubbled in a stunningly way up to July 08. After successfully READING the recession scenario and substantial demand's decline, they cashed out, quit, and oil price crashed. Don't also forget that oil price movement is in line with GDP and stock market's growth. Both Iran and Arab have stubbornly-smart brain. Not only they produce oil massively but they have also hoarded it in their expensively- rented tankers. I giggled aloud when the President proclaimed that IRAN is safe even if the oil price goes down to $5. Regrettably, oil is the pilot for commodities, energy and agriculture sector. If oil price is still insecure, be extra cautious and alert at these LINES UP. ESPECIALLY if the company is seriously fundamentally rotten, indebted and defaulted. 2. The credit bubble in the Wonderland far away there is still ACCUTE. A few people can really comprehend how the credit bubble has brought the Wonderland into a state of coma. The bad magic of credit bubble lies on its fractional-reserve system. With easy example of reserve ratio 9 : 1, the deposit of $10.000 will create loan money of $90.000 by commercial fin parties. The ratio can be made in 20 : 1 or even 30 : 1. New dogma was then FALSELY created, MONEY = CREDIT, CREDIT = MONEY. The arrangement depends on the negotiation and charter's agreement. This has precipitated not only on individual level, but the vast majority on business and industrial sectors in the Wonderland (learn from Washington Mutual's case). Not only at banking, housing, financial, consumption and manufacturing sector, but prevalently at all sectors. This has triggered European countries urge back the world to return to Bretton Woods. To fix this avalanche, the Omama administration (the president of the Wonderland his economic team) needs long time process. 3. As my last posting was undeniably true, please now enjoy the moment of temporary up. This will consume sometime before the Lunar Eclipse (Quarter 2 - 3 of 2009). The Lunar Eclipse will be signalized by the designation of THE 5th ELLIOT WOLVE'S MIDNIGHT BARK (read: Elliot Wave 5) on the frontier which will bring the LORD DOW with the hang rope . To conclude, this is my new single release: `Welcome Hang Rope 2009'. And with Indonesia: I do PRAY that the GOI could anticipate and handle the problem from EXTERNAL FACTORS while decisively going on cleaning up its internal problems. Please work round the clock and predict the unpredictable. Credit financial derivative problems in the Wonderland contains invaluable lessons for our emerging market. We don't need to copy their failure. The system has failed. Tightening credit granting and monetary system, clean
[obrolan-bandar] Re: THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)
For DJ I accept you challenge, EL. DJ will go 6k in next 12 months. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Blah. BUY more! The statement below was valid only if been stated a year ago. Next year, when DJI breaks above 11k, you won't be so sure anymore about your 'release'... ha ha ha... Market goes up and down, so volatile you would miss the TREND. Sure, the economy stumbles, but It won't fall. Smart people, those like Buffett and Soros, would see this as a rare good opportunity. I see it too, so I'll let you guys know. Hell, IDX shouldn't fall below 2k if there' was no BUMI around. Now I challenge you, IDX will be well above 1800 over the next 6 months, DJI above 11K, crude oil around $70 - $90. Elaine** * On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Ratu Sima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Embah, let Aimee clarify I am inspired to say this as I smell a major misapprehension. I need to stay poised. You can adopt it as the different version of the global market watch. Let me exclaim it out loud. THE MARKET IS STILL BEARISH. Temporary positive correction will keep on quite sometime, though. At the beginning of New Year 2009, rebalancing portfolio is STILL indispensable. HOWEVER, the quandary that we will encounter next year is much harder. Let me verify plainly as follows: 1. Oil price still remains volatile. Despite Iran's challenge of its resistance power, Arab's King's recall of $75 and OPEC's breathless effort to establish supply demand equilibrium, the sudden oil price increase is NOT likely to happen. This is due to imperfect timing and momentum. In addition, the speculators who have bubbled oil to $147 are still bearish-minded as well. How do they work? Oil commodities speculators exploit `buy roll-over strategy' in their trading tactic. It is also attributed to the market failure factor. THIS confirms how oil had bubbled in a stunningly way up to July 08. After successfully READING the recession scenario and substantial demand's decline, they cashed out, quit, and oil price crashed. Don't also forget that oil price movement is in line with GDP and stock market's growth. Both Iran and Arab have stubbornly-smart brain. Not only they produce oil massively but they have also hoarded it in their expensively- rented tankers. I giggled aloud when the President proclaimed that IRAN is safe even if the oil price goes down to $5. Regrettably, oil is the pilot for commodities, energy and agriculture sector. If oil price is still insecure, be extra cautious and alert at these LINES UP. ESPECIALLY if the company is seriously fundamentally rotten, indebted and defaulted. 2. The credit bubble in the Wonderland far away there is still ACCUTE. A few people can really comprehend how the credit bubble has brought the Wonderland into a state of coma. The bad magic of credit bubble lies on its fractional-reserve system. With easy example of reserve ratio 9 : 1, the deposit of $10.000 will create loan money of $90.000 by commercial fin parties. The ratio can be made in 20 : 1 or even 30 : 1. New dogma was then FALSELY created, MONEY = CREDIT, CREDIT = MONEY. The arrangement depends on the negotiation and charter's agreement. This has precipitated not only on individual level, but the vast majority on business and industrial sectors in the Wonderland (learn from Washington Mutual's case). Not only at banking, housing, financial, consumption and manufacturing sector, but prevalently at all sectors. This has triggered European countries urge back the world to return to Bretton Woods. To fix this avalanche, the Omama administration (the president of the Wonderland his economic team) needs long time process. 3. As my last posting was undeniably true, please now enjoy the moment of temporary up. This will consume sometime before the Lunar Eclipse (Quarter 2 - 3 of 2009). The Lunar Eclipse will be signalized by the designation of THE 5th ELLIOT WOLVE'S MIDNIGHT BARK (read: Elliot Wave 5) on the frontier which will bring the LORD DOW with the hang rope . To conclude, this is my new single release: `Welcome Hang Rope 2009'. And with Indonesia: I do PRAY that the GOI could anticipate and handle the problem from EXTERNAL FACTORS while decisively going on cleaning up its internal problems. Please work round the clock and predict the unpredictable. Credit financial derivative problems in the Wonderland contains invaluable lessons for our emerging market. We don't need to copy their failure. The system has failed. Tightening credit granting and monetary system, clean strict due diligence, impartial law enforcement, domestic economy enhancement as the backbone, and the breeding of productivity as well as hard working culture to the people can help save the next generation from similar case collapse.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)
the deal is cut the big ball or the tiny ball? :) 2008/12/1 pemainedan [EMAIL PROTECTED] For DJ I accept you challenge, EL. DJ will go 6k in next 12 months. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Blah. BUY more! The statement below was valid only if been stated a year ago. Next year, when DJI breaks above 11k, you won't be so sure anymore about your 'release'... ha ha ha... Market goes up and down, so volatile you would miss the TREND. Sure, the economy stumbles, but It won't fall. Smart people, those like Buffett and Soros, would see this as a rare good opportunity. I see it too, so I'll let you guys know. Hell, IDX shouldn't fall below 2k if there' was no BUMI around. Now I challenge you, IDX will be well above 1800 over the next 6 months, DJI above 11K, crude oil around $70 - $90. Elaine** * On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Ratu Sima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Embah, let Aimee clarify… I am inspired to say this as I smell a major misapprehension. I need to stay poised. You can adopt it as the different version of the global market watch. Let me exclaim it out loud. THE MARKET IS STILL BEARISH. Temporary positive correction will keep on quite sometime, though. At the beginning of New Year 2009, rebalancing portfolio is STILL indispensable. HOWEVER, the quandary that we will encounter next year is much harder. Let me verify plainly as follows: 1. Oil price still remains volatile. Despite Iran's challenge of its resistance power, Arab's King's recall of $75 and OPEC's breathless effort to establish supply demand equilibrium, the sudden oil price increase is NOT likely to happen. This is due to imperfect timing and momentum. In addition, the speculators who have bubbled oil to $147 are still bearish-minded as well. How do they work? Oil commodities speculators exploit `buy roll-over strategy' in their trading tactic. It is also attributed to the market failure factor. THIS confirms how oil had bubbled in a stunningly way up to July 08. After successfully READING the recession scenario and substantial demand's decline, they cashed out, quit, and oil price crashed. Don't also forget that oil price movement is in line with GDP and stock market's growth. Both Iran and Arab have stubbornly-smart brain. Not only they produce oil massively but they have also hoarded it in their expensively- rented tankers. I giggled aloud when the President proclaimed that IRAN is safe even if the oil price goes down to $5. Regrettably, oil is the pilot for commodities, energy and agriculture sector. If oil price is still insecure, be extra cautious and alert at these LINES UP. ESPECIALLY if the company is seriously fundamentally rotten, indebted and defaulted. 2. The credit bubble in the Wonderland far away there is still ACCUTE. A few people can really comprehend how the credit bubble has brought the Wonderland into a state of coma. The bad magic of credit bubble lies on its fractional-reserve system. With easy example of reserve ratio 9 : 1, the deposit of $10.000 will create loan money of $90.000 by commercial fin parties. The ratio can be made in 20 : 1 or even 30 : 1. New dogma was then FALSELY created, MONEY = CREDIT, CREDIT = MONEY. The arrangement depends on the negotiation and charter's agreement. This has precipitated not only on individual level, but the vast majority on business and industrial sectors in the Wonderland (learn from Washington Mutual's case). Not only at banking, housing, financial, consumption and manufacturing sector, but prevalently at all sectors. This has triggered European countries urge back the world to return to Bretton Woods. To fix this avalanche, the Omama administration (the president of the Wonderland his economic team) needs long time process. 3. As my last posting was undeniably true, please now enjoy the moment of temporary up. This will consume sometime before the Lunar Eclipse (Quarter 2 - 3 of 2009). The Lunar Eclipse will be signalized by the designation of THE 5th ELLIOT WOLVE'S MIDNIGHT BARK (read: Elliot Wave 5) on the frontier which will bring the LORD DOW with the hang rope . To conclude, this is my new single release: `Welcome Hang Rope 2009'. And with Indonesia: I do PRAY that the GOI could anticipate and handle the problem from EXTERNAL FACTORS while decisively going on cleaning up its internal problems. Please work round the clock and predict the unpredictable. Credit financial derivative problems in the Wonderland contains invaluable lessons for our emerging market. We don't need to copy their failure. The system has failed. Tightening credit granting and monetary system, clean strict due diligence, impartial law
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)
*You mean 12k in 6 months? llloolll.. ^_^ kinda too much to ask but who knows? Elaine** * On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:55 AM, pemainedan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For DJ I accept you challenge, EL. DJ will go 6k in next 12 months. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Blah. BUY more! The statement below was valid only if been stated a year ago. Next year, when DJI breaks above 11k, you won't be so sure anymore about your 'release'... ha ha ha... Market goes up and down, so volatile you would miss the TREND. Sure, the economy stumbles, but It won't fall. Smart people, those like Buffett and Soros, would see this as a rare good opportunity. I see it too, so I'll let you guys know. Hell, IDX shouldn't fall below 2k if there' was no BUMI around. Now I challenge you, IDX will be well above 1800 over the next 6 months, DJI above 11K, crude oil around $70 - $90. Elaine** * On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Ratu Sima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Embah, let Aimee clarify… I am inspired to say this as I smell a major misapprehension. I need to stay poised. You can adopt it as the different version of the global market watch. Let me exclaim it out loud. THE MARKET IS STILL BEARISH. Temporary positive correction will keep on quite sometime, though. At the beginning of New Year 2009, rebalancing portfolio is STILL indispensable. HOWEVER, the quandary that we will encounter next year is much harder. Let me verify plainly as follows: 1. Oil price still remains volatile. Despite Iran's challenge of its resistance power, Arab's King's recall of $75 and OPEC's breathless effort to establish supply demand equilibrium, the sudden oil price increase is NOT likely to happen. This is due to imperfect timing and momentum. In addition, the speculators who have bubbled oil to $147 are still bearish-minded as well. How do they work? Oil commodities speculators exploit `buy roll-over strategy' in their trading tactic. It is also attributed to the market failure factor. THIS confirms how oil had bubbled in a stunningly way up to July 08. After successfully READING the recession scenario and substantial demand's decline, they cashed out, quit, and oil price crashed. Don't also forget that oil price movement is in line with GDP and stock market's growth. Both Iran and Arab have stubbornly-smart brain. Not only they produce oil massively but they have also hoarded it in their expensively- rented tankers. I giggled aloud when the President proclaimed that IRAN is safe even if the oil price goes down to $5. Regrettably, oil is the pilot for commodities, energy and agriculture sector. If oil price is still insecure, be extra cautious and alert at these LINES UP. ESPECIALLY if the company is seriously fundamentally rotten, indebted and defaulted. 2. The credit bubble in the Wonderland far away there is still ACCUTE. A few people can really comprehend how the credit bubble has brought the Wonderland into a state of coma. The bad magic of credit bubble lies on its fractional-reserve system. With easy example of reserve ratio 9 : 1, the deposit of $10.000 will create loan money of $90.000 by commercial fin parties. The ratio can be made in 20 : 1 or even 30 : 1. New dogma was then FALSELY created, MONEY = CREDIT, CREDIT = MONEY. The arrangement depends on the negotiation and charter's agreement. This has precipitated not only on individual level, but the vast majority on business and industrial sectors in the Wonderland (learn from Washington Mutual's case). Not only at banking, housing, financial, consumption and manufacturing sector, but prevalently at all sectors. This has triggered European countries urge back the world to return to Bretton Woods. To fix this avalanche, the Omama administration (the president of the Wonderland his economic team) needs long time process. 3. As my last posting was undeniably true, please now enjoy the moment of temporary up. This will consume sometime before the Lunar Eclipse (Quarter 2 - 3 of 2009). The Lunar Eclipse will be signalized by the designation of THE 5th ELLIOT WOLVE'S MIDNIGHT BARK (read: Elliot Wave 5) on the frontier which will bring the LORD DOW with the hang rope . To conclude, this is my new single release: `Welcome Hang Rope 2009'. And with Indonesia: I do PRAY that the GOI could anticipate and handle the problem from EXTERNAL FACTORS while decisively going on cleaning up its internal problems. Please work round the clock and predict the unpredictable. Credit financial derivative problems in the Wonderland contains invaluable lessons for our emerging market. We don't need to copy their failure. The system has failed. Tightening credit granting
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)
wogh, challenge is accepted miss el maybe you need Pak Oen help for back up and suggestions good luck we stand behind you nice lady From: pemainedan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2008 11:55:53 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3) For DJ I accept you challenge, EL. DJ will go 6k in next 12 months. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Elaine Sui elainesui83@ ... wrote: *Blah. BUY more! The statement below was valid only if been stated a year ago. Next year, when DJI breaks above 11k, you won't be so sure anymore about your 'release'... ha ha ha... Market goes up and down, so volatile you would miss the TREND. Sure, the economy stumbles, but It won't fall. Smart people, those like Buffett and Soros, would see this as a rare good opportunity. I see it too, so I'll let you guys know. Hell, IDX shouldn't fall below 2k if there' was no BUMI around. Now I challenge you, IDX will be well above 1800 over the next 6 months, DJI above 11K, crude oil around $70 - $90. Elaine** * On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Ratu Sima [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: Embah, let Aimee clarify… I am inspired to say this as I smell a major misapprehension. I need to stay poised. You can adopt it as the different version of the global market watch. Let me exclaim it out loud. THE MARKET IS STILL BEARISH. Temporary positive correction will keep on quite sometime, though. At the beginning of New Year 2009, rebalancing portfolio is STILL indispensable. HOWEVER, the quandary that we will encounter next year is much harder. Let me verify plainly as follows: 1. Oil price still remains volatile. Despite Iran's challenge of its resistance power, Arab's King's recall of $75 and OPEC's breathless effort to establish supply demand equilibrium, the sudden oil price increase is NOT likely to happen. This is due to imperfect timing and momentum. In addition, the speculators who have bubbled oil to $147 are still bearish-minded as well. How do they work? Oil commodities speculators exploit `buy roll-over strategy' in their trading tactic. It is also attributed to the market failure factor. THIS confirms how oil had bubbled in a stunningly way up to July 08. After successfully READING the recession scenario and substantial demand's decline, they cashed out, quit, and oil price crashed. Don't also forget that oil price movement is in line with GDP and stock market's growth. Both Iran and Arab have stubbornly-smart brain. Not only they produce oil massively but they have also hoarded it in their expensively- rented tankers. I giggled aloud when the President proclaimed that IRAN is safe even if the oil price goes down to $5. Regrettably, oil is the pilot for commodities, energy and agriculture sector. If oil price is still insecure, be extra cautious and alert at these LINES UP. ESPECIALLY if the company is seriously fundamentally rotten, indebted and defaulted. 2. The credit bubble in the Wonderland far away there is still ACCUTE. A few people can really comprehend how the credit bubble has brought the Wonderland into a state of coma. The bad magic of credit bubble lies on its fractional-reserve system. With easy example of reserve ratio 9 : 1, the deposit of $10.000 will create loan money of $90.000 by commercial fin parties. The ratio can be made in 20 : 1 or even 30 : 1. New dogma was then FALSELY created, MONEY = CREDIT, CREDIT = MONEY. The arrangement depends on the negotiation and charter's agreement. This has precipitated not only on individual level, but the vast majority on business and industrial sectors in the Wonderland (learn from Washington Mutual's case). Not only at banking, housing, financial, consumption and manufacturing sector, but prevalently at all sectors. This has triggered European countries urge back the world to return to Bretton Woods. To fix this avalanche, the Omama administration (the president of the Wonderland his economic team) needs long time process. 3. As my last posting was undeniably true, please now enjoy the moment of temporary up. This will consume sometime before the Lunar Eclipse (Quarter 2 - 3 of 2009). The Lunar Eclipse will be signalized by the designation of THE 5th ELLIOT WOLVE'S MIDNIGHT BARK (read: Elliot Wave 5) on the frontier which will bring the LORD DOW with the hang rope . To conclude, this is my new single release: `Welcome Hang Rope 2009'. And with Indonesia: I do PRAY that the GOI could anticipate and handle the problem from EXTERNAL FACTORS while decisively going on cleaning up its internal problems. Please work round the clock and predict the unpredictable. Credit financial derivative problems in the Wonderland contains invaluable lessons for our emerging market. We don't
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Saya pegang sideways/flat aja deh sementara ini. Nanti kalau udah bikin V pattern. cup'n handle atau break consolidation, baru tereak bull. Jangan kecepetan reboundnya, bikin base dulu yang mantep, biar lompatnya jauh. So far signal baik TA maupun FA udah mulai bagus, dan mudahan bagus terus kedepannya. Tinggal tunggu IHSG bikin HH di 1430, dan HL 1102 (range buat tektok). Optimis sajalah™, masih muda jgn gampang stress. Semangat terus. Saya melihat tanda-tanda penguatan di INDF, LSIP, UNTR,PTBA, dkk, spertinya sektor komo dan teman2nya lagi nyari pijakan buat loncat. Sektor banking juga menunjukkan pola flat. Kalau suku bunga beneran turun, bisa lompat dua-duanya karena: 1. Suku bunga turun, rupiah bisa agak melemah dan ini menguntungkan eksportir 2. Juga membuka sentimen pelonggaran kredit, yang dibarengi dengan kebijakan fiskal. Btw pak Agung ngapain di belakang EL, mo ngintip ya.. woy laki shaf nya didepan..heheh.. Regards, DE 2008/12/1 agung aja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wogh, challenge is accepted miss el maybe you need Pak Oen help for back up and suggestions good luck we stand behind you nice lady -- *From:* pemainedan [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, December 1, 2008 11:55:53 AM *Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3) For DJ I accept you challenge, EL. DJ will go 6k in next 12 months. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui elainesui83@ ... wrote: *Blah. BUY more! The statement below was valid only if been stated a year ago. Next year, when DJI breaks above 11k, you won't be so sure anymore about your 'release'... ha ha ha... Market goes up and down, so volatile you would miss the TREND. Sure, the economy stumbles, but It won't fall. Smart people, those like Buffett and Soros, would see this as a rare good opportunity. I see it too, so I'll let you guys know. Hell, IDX shouldn't fall below 2k if there' was no BUMI around. Now I challenge you, IDX will be well above 1800 over the next 6 months, DJI above 11K, crude oil around $70 - $90. Elaine** * On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Ratu Sima [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: Embah, let Aimee clarify… I am inspired to say this as I smell a major misapprehension. I need to stay poised. You can adopt it as the different version of the global market watch. Let me exclaim it out loud. THE MARKET IS STILL BEARISH. Temporary positive correction will keep on quite sometime, though. At the beginning of New Year 2009, rebalancing portfolio is STILL indispensable. HOWEVER, the quandary that we will encounter next year is much harder. Let me verify plainly as follows: 1. Oil price still remains volatile. Despite Iran's challenge of its resistance power, Arab's King's recall of $75 and OPEC's breathless effort to establish supply demand equilibrium, the sudden oil price increase is NOT likely to happen. This is due to imperfect timing and momentum. In addition, the speculators who have bubbled oil to $147 are still bearish-minded as well. How do they work? Oil commodities speculators exploit `buy roll-over strategy' in their trading tactic. It is also attributed to the market failure factor. THIS confirms how oil had bubbled in a stunningly way up to July 08. After successfully READING the recession scenario and substantial demand's decline, they cashed out, quit, and oil price crashed. Don't also forget that oil price movement is in line with GDP and stock market's growth. Both Iran and Arab have stubbornly-smart brain. Not only they produce oil massively but they have also hoarded it in their expensively- rented tankers. I giggled aloud when the President proclaimed that IRAN is safe even if the oil price goes down to $5. Regrettably, oil is the pilot for commodities, energy and agriculture sector. If oil price is still insecure, be extra cautious and alert at these LINES UP. ESPECIALLY if the company is seriously fundamentally rotten, indebted and defaulted. 2. The credit bubble in the Wonderland far away there is still ACCUTE. A few people can really comprehend how the credit bubble has brought the Wonderland into a state of coma. The bad magic of credit bubble lies on its fractional-reserve system. With easy example of reserve ratio 9 : 1, the deposit of $10.000 will create loan money of $90.000 by commercial fin parties. The ratio can be made in 20 : 1 or even 30 : 1. New dogma was then FALSELY created, MONEY = CREDIT, CREDIT = MONEY. The arrangement depends on the negotiation and charter's agreement. This has precipitated not only on individual level, but the vast majority on business and industrial sectors in the Wonderland (learn from Washington Mutual's case). Not only at banking, housing, financial
[obrolan-bandar] Re: THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)
he he ... Ratu Sima dikeroyok lo .. Tapi dia masih ada lho pendukungnya: Pak Oen sama Pak Niko Jonckhere (valbury) .. gak bisa dipandang enteng tuh mereka berdua. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Tasrul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ikut dukung Elanie.. Ini saya kirim performance IHSG vs DJIA dengan starting point DJIA terdeteksi berpola acak sejak 25 Jan 06 sampai Jumat kemarin.. IHSG Go..!! From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elaine Sui Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 11:06 AM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3) Blah. BUY more! The statement below was valid only if been stated a year ago. Next year, when DJI breaks above 11k, you won't be so sure anymore about your 'release'... ha ha ha... Market goes up and down, so volatile you would miss the TREND. Sure, the economy stumbles, but It won't fall. Smart people, those like Buffett and Soros, would see this as a rare good opportunity. I see it too, so I'll let you guys know. Hell, IDX shouldn't fall below 2k if there' was no BUMI around. Now I challenge you, IDX will be well above 1800 over the next 6 months, DJI above 11K, crude oil around $70 - $90. Elaine On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Ratu Sima [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Embah, let Aimee clarify... I am inspired to say this as I smell a major misapprehension. I need to stay poised. You can adopt it as the different version of the global market watch. Let me exclaim it out loud. THE MARKET IS STILL BEARISH. Temporary positive correction will keep on quite sometime, though. At the beginning of New Year 2009, rebalancing portfolio is STILL indispensable. HOWEVER, the quandary that we will encounter next year is much harder. Let me verify plainly as follows: 1. Oil price still remains volatile. Despite Iran's challenge of its resistance power, Arab's King's recall of $75 and OPEC's breathless effort to establish supply demand equilibrium, the sudden oil price increase is NOT likely to happen. This is due to imperfect timing and momentum. In addition, the speculators who have bubbled oil to $147 are still bearish-minded as well. How do they work? Oil commodities speculators exploit `buy roll-over strategy' in their trading tactic. It is also attributed to the market failure factor. THIS confirms how oil had bubbled in a stunningly way up to July 08. After successfully READING the recession scenario and substantial demand's decline, they cashed out, quit, and oil price crashed. Don't also forget that oil price movement is in line with GDP and stock market's growth. Both Iran and Arab have stubbornly-smart brain. Not only they produce oil massively but they have also hoarded it in their expensively- rented tankers. I giggled aloud when the President proclaimed that IRAN is safe even if the oil price goes down to $5. Regrettably, oil is the pilot for commodities, energy and agriculture sector. If oil price is still insecure, be extra cautious and alert at these LINES UP. ESPECIALLY if the company is seriously fundamentally rotten, indebted and defaulted. 2. The credit bubble in the Wonderland far away there is still ACCUTE. A few people can really comprehend how the credit bubble has brought the Wonderland into a state of coma. The bad magic of credit bubble lies on its fractional-reserve system. With easy example of reserve ratio 9 : 1, the deposit of $10.000 will create loan money of $90.000 by commercial fin parties. The ratio can be made in 20 : 1 or even 30 : 1. New dogma was then FALSELY created, MONEY = CREDIT, CREDIT = MONEY. The arrangement depends on the negotiation and charter's agreement. This has precipitated not only on individual level, but the vast majority on business and industrial sectors in the Wonderland (learn from Washington Mutual's case). Not only at banking, housing, financial, consumption and manufacturing sector, but prevalently at all sectors. This has triggered European countries urge back the world to return to Bretton Woods. To fix this avalanche, the Omama administration (the president of the Wonderland his economic team) needs long time process. 3. As my last posting was undeniably true, please now enjoy the moment of temporary up. This will consume sometime before the Lunar Eclipse (Quarter 2 - 3 of 2009). The Lunar Eclipse will be signalized by the designation of THE 5th ELLIOT WOLVE'S MIDNIGHT BARK (read: Elliot Wave 5) on the frontier which will bring the LORD DOW with the hang rope . To conclude, this is my new single release: `Welcome Hang Rope 2009'. And with Indonesia: I do PRAY that the GOI could anticipate and handle the problem from EXTERNAL FACTORS while decisively
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Pak DE silahkan ke depan jadi imamyang laen makmuman di belakang hehehe sideways agak lamaan donk biar manta ke index 3000 +++ mo cuan makmum pak DE hehe, mude tampen kaye...caile di doain mudah-2an dapet pahe (dewi sandre,...) --- On Sun, 11/30/08, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saya pegang sideways/flat aja deh sementara ini. Nanti kalau udah bikin V pattern. cup'n handle atau break consolidation, baru tereak bull. Jangan kecepetan reboundnya, bikin base dulu yang mantep, biar lompatnya jauh.
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i like your level of confident el.. Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean 12k in 6 months? llloolll.. ^_^ kinda too much to ask but who knows? Elaine On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:55 AM, pemainedan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For DJ I accept you challenge, EL. DJ will go 6k in next 12 months. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Blah. BUY more! The statement below was valid only if been stated a year ago. Next year, when DJI breaks above 11k, you won't be so sure anymore about your 'release'... ha ha ha... Market goes up and down, so volatile you would miss the TREND. Sure, the economy stumbles, but It won't fall. Smart people, those like Buffett and Soros, would see this as a rare good opportunity. I see it too, so I'll let you guys know. Hell, IDX shouldn't fall below 2k if there' was no BUMI around. Now I challenge you, IDX will be well above 1800 over the next 6 months, DJI above 11K, crude oil around $70 - $90. Elaine** * On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Ratu Sima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Embah, let Aimee clarify I am inspired to say this as I smell a major misapprehension. I need to stay poised. You can adopt it as the different version of the global market watch. Let me exclaim it out loud. THE MARKET IS STILL BEARISH. Temporary positive correction will keep on quite sometime, though. At the beginning of New Year 2009, rebalancing portfolio is STILL indispensable. HOWEVER, the quandary that we will encounter next year is much harder. Let me verify plainly as follows: 1. Oil price still remains volatile. Despite Iran's challenge of its resistance power, Arab's King's recall of $75 and OPEC's breathless effort to establish supply demand equilibrium, the sudden oil price increase is NOT likely to happen. This is due to imperfect timing and momentum. In addition, the speculators who have bubbled oil to $147 are still bearish-minded as well. How do they work? Oil commodities speculators exploit `buy roll-over strategy' in their trading tactic. It is also attributed to the market failure factor. THIS confirms how oil had bubbled in a stunningly way up to July 08. After successfully READING the recession scenario and substantial demand's decline, they cashed out, quit, and oil price crashed. Don't also forget that oil price movement is in line with GDP and stock market's growth. Both Iran and Arab have stubbornly-smart brain. Not only they produce oil massively but they have also hoarded it in their expensively- rented tankers. I giggled aloud when the President proclaimed that IRAN is safe even if the oil price goes down to $5. Regrettably, oil is the pilot for commodities, energy and agriculture sector. If oil price is still insecure, be extra cautious and alert at these LINES UP. ESPECIALLY if the company is seriously fundamentally rotten, indebted and defaulted. 2. The credit bubble in the Wonderland far away there is still ACCUTE. A few people can really comprehend how the credit bubble has brought the Wonderland into a state of coma. The bad magic of credit bubble lies on its fractional-reserve system. With easy example of reserve ratio 9 : 1, the deposit of $10.000 will create loan money of $90.000 by commercial fin parties. The ratio can be made in 20 : 1 or even 30 : 1. New dogma was then FALSELY created, MONEY = CREDIT, CREDIT = MONEY. The arrangement depends on the negotiation and charter's agreement. This has precipitated not only on individual level, but the vast majority on business and industrial sectors in the Wonderland (learn from Washington Mutual's case). Not only at banking, housing, financial, consumption and manufacturing sector, but prevalently at all sectors. This has triggered European countries urge back the world to return to Bretton Woods. To fix this avalanche, the Omama administration (the president of the Wonderland his economic team) needs long time process. 3. As my last posting was undeniably true, please now enjoy the moment of temporary up. This will consume sometime before the Lunar Eclipse (Quarter 2 - 3 of 2009). The Lunar Eclipse will be signalized by the designation of THE 5th ELLIOT WOLVE'S MIDNIGHT BARK (read: Elliot Wave 5) on the frontier which will bring the LORD DOW with the hang rope . To conclude, this is my new single release: `Welcome Hang Rope 2009'. And with Indonesia: I do PRAY that the GOI could anticipate and handle the problem from EXTERNAL FACTORS while decisively going on cleaning up its internal problems. Please work round the clock and predict the unpredictable. Credit financial derivative problems in the Wonderland contains
