Emmm iya sih...
Kl menurut pemahamanku, intinya ya uang sendiri jangan
diperdagangkan... valuenya harus stabil...
Dan menghilangkan tambahan yang ga ada
produktifitasnya (riba)...
kayanya jadi tengah2 antara kapitalis dan sosialis..
--- kang_ocoy_maen_saham
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ya itu, mereka kaya at expense of "weak-side" macem
> kita.. sistem
> ekonomi syariah itu adil dan menenteramkan
> sebenernya kalo
> diterapin., tp susah banget kali yah
> implementasinya..
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Steve
> Kosasih"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Sistem tidak ada yang sempurna.
> >
> > Tapi kadang-kadang kita kurang mengerti esensi
> sesungguhnya dari
> sistem
> > EKONOMI kapitalis atau sosialis. Esensinya adalah
> kadar kebebasan
> > perekonomian dan kebebasan dalan berbisnis.
> Kapitalis cenderung
> diatur agar
> > lebih bebas, sementara sosialis cenderung diatur
> agar lebih "sesuai
> dengan
> > keinginan mayoritas" (yang belum tentu sesuai
> dengan kaidah bisnis).
> >
> > Sejauh ini, terbukti dari indeks yang dibikin dari
> badan pengamat
> korupsi
> > dan badan riset kesejahteraan dunia global "2007
> Index of World
> Economic
> > Freedom", negara-negara yang menganut faham
> kapitalis SELALU jauh
> lebih
> > makmur masyarakatnya (baik yang bekerja di pasar
> modal maupun yang
> tidak)
> > dibanding yang menganut faham sosialis.
> >
> > Orang-orang miskin di negara-negara Kapitalis pun
> lebih "makmur"
> daripada
> > orang-orang miskin di negara-negara Sosialis
> >
> > Saya cuma ingat TOP 7 dari TOP 25 yang EKONOMI-nya
> Paling Kapitalis
> (higher
> > economic freedom):
> >
> > Nomor 1 adalah......... Hong Kong (tetap dihitung
> "negara" karena
> punya mata
> > uang sendiri)
> > Nomor 2 adalah......... Singapura (hehehe...)
> > Nomor 3 adalah......... Australia
> > Nomor 4 adalah......... Selandia Baru
> > Nomor 5 adalah......... Amerika (bukan nomor 1 tuh
> ternyata...)
> > Nomor 6 adalah......... Inggris & Irlandia
> (skor-nya sama)
> > Nomor 7 adalah......... Luxemburg & Swiss
> (skor-nya sama)
> >
> > Juga TOP 7 dari TOP 25 yang EKONOMI-nya Paling
> Sosialis (lower
> economic
> > freedom):
> >
> > Nomor 1 adalah......... Kuba (paling ancur)
> > Nomor 2 adalah......... Libya
> > Nomor 3 adalah......... Zimbabwe
> > Nomor 4 adalah......... Burma
> > Nomor 5 adalah......... Turkmenistan
> > Nomor 6 adalah......... Kongo
> > Nomor 7 adalah......... Iran
> >
> > Di situ jelas terlihat bahwa negara-negara yang
> paling tidak bebas
> > perekonomiannya (bukan pergaulannya) alias yang
> Paling Tidak
> Kapitalistik
> > perekonomiannya adalah juga yang paling miskin
> masyarakatnya,
> meskipun
> > sumberdaya negaranya berlimpah-limpah.
> >
> > Juga tidak ada hubungannya apakah negara itu bekas
> jajahan atau
> bukan.
> >
> > Indonesia sendiri bagaimana? Apakah kita sudah
> benar-benar memiliki
> > perekonomian yang benar-benar mendukung dunia
> bisnis? Silakan teman-
> teman
> > kaji sendiri.
> >
> > Salam OB...
> >
> > *Penjelasan soal Economic Freedom silakan lihat di
> bawah, saya
> kutip buat
> > teman-teman OB:
> > *
> > The "2007 Index of Economic Freedom" displays a
> color-coded map
> showing
> > countries that are free, mostly free, moderately
> free, mostly
> unfree and
> > repressed.
> >
> > Guess where one finds the world's most miserably
> poor people? If
> you guessed
> > the mostly unfree and repressed countries, you
> guessed correctly.
> >
> > Some people claim that some countries are rich
> because of abundant
> natural
> > resources. That's nonsense! Africa and South
> America are probably
> the
> > richest continents in natural resources, but are
> home to some of
> the world's
> > poorest people. By contrast, countries like
> England, Japan and Hong
> Kong are
> > poor in natural resources, but their people are
> among the world's
> > wealthiest. Hong Kong even has to import its food
> and water.
> >
> > Some people use the history of colonialism as an
> excuse for
> poverty. That's
> > also nonsense. The United States was a colony. So
> were Canada,
> Australia,
> > New Zealand and Hong Kong, but they're rich
> countries.
> >
> > The reason some countries are rich while others
> are poor is best
> explained
> > by the amount of economic freedom its peoples
> enjoy and the extent
> of
> > government control over economic matters.
> >
> > Don't make the mistake of equating economic
> freedom with democracy.
> After
> > all, India, politically, is a democracy, but
> economically it is
> mostly
> > unfree and poor, ranking 104th in economic
> freedom. There are
> countries on
> > the economic freedom index that do not have much
> of a history of
> democracy,
> > such as Chile, ranking 11th, and Taiwan, 26th, and
> yet these
> countries are
> > far wealthier than some of their more democratic
> counterparts.
> > Why?
> > It's because their economic systems are free or
> mostly free, which
> is not
> > guaranteed by a democratic political system.
> > The economic development lesson is clear: Have a
> system of economic
> freedom
> > and grow rich.
> >
> > *Extensive government control, weak property
> rights and government
> > corruption almost guarantee poverty*. A country's
> institutional
> > infrastructure is critical to its economic growth
> and the well-
> being of its
> > citizens. *The most critical are protection of
> private property,
> enforcement
> > of contracts and rule of law.*
> >
> >
> > *On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:02 PM,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:*
> > Kapitalisme banyak wrongnya Pak.
> >
> > Khususnya untuk komunitas NON BARAT ... Bahkan
> untuk dunia Barat
> > juga... someday in the near future
>
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