Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-27 Terurut Topik Tukang Sapu



Weleh-weleh seru banget nih tapi kok melenceng perdebatannya, kan lebih baik berdebat pakai logika dan bukan sekedar kata-kata. Ayo dong jangan dihentikan perdebatannya tapi jangan melenceng kearah saling menghina ataupun mengata-ngatai dan juga jangan berdebat ala kusir yg tanpa reasoning dan logic. .Asalkan tidak menyeret orang ke dalam jurang ya nggak apa-apa toh.Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: sharing infos in this milist is just like against a bunch of mob...who don't want to be
 criticised and could not accept someone's else opinion...  i would rather have a battle in the marketbut, i know people like pak edy1276 and effendi ang..? hehe are very smart and have big investment...so.. my apology, then..  this is my last comment please consider all of my comment as disclaimer and ignore them...  promise and swear not to give any opnion anymore...  and my best respect to embah or mbah, pak oen, and pak vibby ...keep up a good work and remind people to always be wise in investing their money in the jungle world of the equity market  peace and cheers to you all  bye  edy1276 [EMAIL PROTECTED]com wrote:  nopebut i may be looking at heavily investing some big chunk of  my fundTong
 Kosong Nyaring Bunyinya..not that funnyi stll have some at an average of IDR35so...take an easy...Menjilat ludah sendiri--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert pemainbesar@... wrote: not that funnyi stll have some at an average of IDR35so...take an easy... hehe  up_trends [EMAIL PROTECTED].. wrote: funny when some people said this stock is good but actually they   still dont invest in it. if u are sure enough bumi is going to 1200,  why u still don't have bumi? :)  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert  pemainbesar@ wrote:   nopebut i may be looking at heavily investing some big chunk of  my
 fund  and may forecast for BUMI fair value is more than 1,200 rups..but, what u said reminded me to an event when i told people that  Telkom's fair value is at 9,000 rups...at that times Telkom's share  price was at 4,400haha  peace ah..up_trends up_trends@ wrote:  I'm guessing u have bumi? well good luck :)--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubertpemainbesar@ wrote: don't have any problem with my investment...my problem now is  that   i don't understand with what you said...   peace  up_trends up_trends@ wrote:   the problem is are u strong enough to see other stocks  
 rally giving ua whooping 20%+ gain while bumi ... :)  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubertpemainbesar@ wrote:   well...come on...be realistic... and please separate corporate actionand assets as of September 30 2006 (next 9-month earnings),BUMI's assets should remain at IDR16.99 trillion,  compared with   PTBAof ONLY IDR2.68 trillion, or INCO of IDR15.23 trillion or ANTM ofIDR6.6 trillion.If BUMI CAN manage its current debts by any kind of refinancingor loan bridging or whatsoeverBUMI mabe as attractive as  Inco...   
 The question for BUMI is how they can manage their cashflow...and maintain its loyal foreign buyersSo, with or without selling KPC and ARUTMIN, which are thelargest coal miner by ASSETS and reserves, BUMI still has  potentialfor long term investment.cheersariabela@ wrote:Sepertinya, pade kalah 'senior' semua sama yg  punyanya,ya - nanti lama2juga akan terlupakan/terselesaikan dg sendirinya...Aria Asetnya BUMI keliatannya masih menarik dhe.. ie :Arutmin, KPCetc... tapi manajemennya,,yakkhh. 
- Original Message - From: up_trends To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:54 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI? what goes around comes around. boongin berita di bumi,  ketimpasial  lumpur enrg. minum deh tuh lumpur sampe kenyang. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Jamal Nasution"  jamal@ wrote:klo
 cp nya beli banyak berarti mo kesana  tapi klo belinya cuma dikit berarti barang banyak nyangkut  itu riset kapan? sesudah pembatalan KPC ya   - Original Message -  From: Handika Wisnu  To: Bandar  Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 12:43 PM  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] masih layakkah BUMI? Saya saat ini megang saham BUMI dalam jumlah yg lumayan  banyak (menurut saya) karena dulu terpikat dgn janji mo bagi dividen  Rp 200/saham.  Nah, yg mo saya tanyain...apakah BUMI masih layak  
 dipertahankan ato tidak?  Soalnya hasil dari cut loss ini akan saya alihkan untuk  invest options di US market yg return-nya rata2 10% per bulan  (strategi konservatif).   Tapi barusan saya baca review BEJ dari pusat riset Valburybilang klo 

Re: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-27 Terurut Topik gitto kurniasanto
duh bingung pada marahan yak... bulan puasa ni euy.. hmmm...BUMI menurut abdi 
teh sebaiknya nunggu di 660 or below it.. kalo ga dapet ? yo wis daripada 
BOENTOENG ngambil di harga SEKARANG.. terus kena guyur LUMPUR PANAS .. peace ah 
^^... salam hangat, gitto kurniasanto

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Weleh-weleh seru banget nih tapi kok melenceng perdebatannya, kan lebih baik 
berdebat pakai logika dan bukan sekedar kata-kata.  Ayo dong jangan dihentikan 
perdebatannya tapi jangan melenceng kearah saling menghina ataupun 
mengata-ngatai dan juga jangan berdebat ala kusir yg tanpa reasoning dan logic. 
.
Asalkan tidak menyeret orang ke dalam jurang ya nggak apa-apa toh.

Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: 
 
sharing infos in this milist is just like against a bunch of mob...who don't 
want to be criticised and could not accept someone's else opinion...
  i would rather have a battle in the marketbut, i know people like pak 
edy1276 and effendi ang..? hehe are very smart and have big investment...so.. 
my apology, then..
  this is my last comment please consider all of my comment as disclaimer and 
ignore them...
  promise and swear not to give any opnion anymore...
  and my best respect to embah or mbah, pak oen, and pak vibby ...keep up a 
good work and remind people to always be wise in investing their money in the 
jungle world of the equity market
  peace and cheers to you all
  bye
  

edy1276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  nopebut i may be looking at heavily investing some big chunk of 
 my fund
Tong Kosong Nyaring Bunyinya..
not that funnyi stll have some at an average of 
IDR35so...take an easy...
Menjilat ludah sendiri

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 not that funnyi stll have some at an average of 
IDR35so...take an easy...
 hehe
 
 up_trends [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 funny when some people said this stock is good but 
actually they 
  still dont invest in it. if u are sure enough bumi is going to 
1200, 
 why u still don't have bumi? :)
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert 
 pemainbesar@ wrote:
 
  nopebut i may be looking at heavily investing some big chunk 
of 
 my fund
  and may forecast for BUMI fair value is more than 1,200 rups..
  
  but, what u said reminded me to an event when i told people that 
 Telkom's fair value is at 9,000 rups...at that times Telkom's share 
 price was at 4,400haha
  peace ah..
  
  up_trends up_trends@ wrote:
  I'm guessing u have bumi? well good luck :)
  
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert  
  pemainbesar@ wrote:
  
   don't have any problem with my investment...my problem now is 
 that 
  i don't understand with what you said...
   peace
   
   up_trends up_trends@ wrote:
   the problem is are u strong enough to see other stocks 
  rally giving u 
   a whooping 20%+ gain while bumi ... :)
   
   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert 
   pemainbesar@ wrote:
   
well...
come on...be realistic... and please separate corporate 
action 
   and assets as of September 30 2006 (next


 
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Balasan: Re: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-27 Terurut Topik tigor matondang



Ternyata ekspansi perusahaan Malaysia tidak hanya membeli perusahaan di Indonesia, tapi mereka ada niat memindahkan ibukotanya ke Sidoarjo...Kuala Lumpur (panas) Tigor Naelgitto kurniasanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis:  duh bingung pada marahan yak... bulan puasa ni euy.. hmmm...BUMI menurut abdi teh sebaiknya nunggu di 660 or below it.. kalo ga dapet ? yo wis daripada BOENTOENG ngambil di harga SEKARANG..
 terus kena guyur LUMPUR PANAS .. peace ah ^^... salam hangat, gitto kurniasanto[tukang.sapu@yahoo.co.id] wrote:Weleh-weleh seru banget nih tapi kok melenceng perdebatannya, kan lebih baik berdebat pakai logika dan bukan sekedar kata-kata. Ayo dong jangan dihentikan perdebatannya tapi jangan melenceng kearah saling menghina ataupun mengata-ngatai dan juga jangan berdebat ala kusir yg tanpa reasoning dan logic. .Asalkan tidak menyeret orang ke dalam jurang ya nggak apa-apa toh.Frederick Schubert pemainbesar@yahoo.com menulis: sharing infos in this milist is just like against a bunch of mob...who don't want to be criticised and could not accept someone's else opinion...i would rather have a battle in the marketbut, i know people like pak edy1276 and effendi ang..? hehe are very smart and have big investment...so.. my
 apology, then..this is my last comment please consider all of my comment as disclaimer and ignore them...promise and swear not to give any opnion anymore...and my best respect to embah or mbah, pak oen, and pak vibby ...keep up a good work and remind people to always be wise in investing their money in the jungle world of the equity marketpeace and cheers to you allbyeedy1276 [EMAIL PROTECTED]com wrote:nopebut i may be looking at heavily investing some big chunk of  my fundTong Kosong Nyaring Bunyinya..not that funnyi stll have some at an average of IDR35so...take an easy...Menjilat ludah sendiri--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert pemainbesar@... wrote: not that funnyi stll have some at an average of
 IDR35so...take an easy... hehe  up_trends [EMAIL PROTECTED].. wrote: funny when some people said this stock is good but actually they  still dont invest in it. if u are sure enough bumi is going to 1200,  why u still don't have bumi? :)  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert  pemainbesar@ wrote:   nopebut i may be looking at heavily investing some big chunk of  my fund  and may forecast for BUMI fair value is more than 1,200 rups..but, what u said reminded me to an event when i told people that  Telkom's fair value is at 9,000 rups...at that times Telkom's share  price was at 4,400haha  peace ah..up_trends up_trends@
 wrote:  I'm guessing u have bumi? well good luck :)--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert   pemainbesar@ wrote: don't have any problem with my investment...my problem now is  that   i don't understand with what you said...   peace  up_trends up_trends@ wrote:   the problem is are u strong enough to see other stocks   rally giving ua whooping 20%+ gain while bumi ... :)  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubertpemainbesar@ wrote:   well...come
 on...be realistic... and please separate corporate actionand assets as of September 30 2006 (next 
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