Re: [ob] DOW IJO.KMAREN KEGOCEK

2010-04-09 Terurut Topik Andre Andre
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From: JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, April 9, 2010 9:20:19 AM
Subject: RE: [ob] DOW IJO.KMAREN KEGOCEK

  
Yg kegocek yg dengerin Tbumi, wkwkwkw

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Subject: [ob] DOW IJO.KMAREN KEGOCEK

MIND MONEY METHOD


 


  

Re: [ob] DOW IJO.KMAREN KEGOCEK

2010-04-09 Terurut Topik katrin
Akhirnya porto semua cuan :d

Sent with no Worries, Free with love

-Original Message-
From: kangduren kangdu...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 02:52:44 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] DOW IJO.KMAREN KEGOCEK

kejeduk kali?
banyak yg nefsong hajar kanan nih, indeks melorot lagi, hehehe..

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 Hati2 dipatok ular! :D
 
 Sent from my computer of course!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JT jsxtra...@...
 Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 09:20:19 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [ob] DOW IJO.KMAREN KEGOCEK
 
 Yg kegocek yg dengerin Tbumi, wkwkwkw
 
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 On Behalf Of Fans of JT
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 Subject: [ob] DOW IJO.KMAREN KEGOCEK
 
 
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Re: [ob] DOW IJO.KMAREN KEGOCEK

2010-04-09 Terurut Topik kangduren
minggu ini saya profit lumayan bersinar, dr konstruksi, kena tabok duit (kata 
pak Cleo), dr komoditas ga gitu, banyakan mondar mandir sih  :D

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 Akhirnya porto semua cuan :d
 
 Sent with no Worries, Free with love
 
 -Original Message-
 From: kangduren kangdu...@...
 Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 02:52:44 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [ob] DOW IJO.KMAREN KEGOCEK
 
 kejeduk kali?
 banyak yg nefsong hajar kanan nih, indeks melorot lagi, hehehe..
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, highwaystar91@ wrote:
 
  Hati2 dipatok ular! :D
  
  Sent from my computer of course!
  
  -Original Message-
  From: JT jsxtrader@
  Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 09:20:19 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [ob] DOW IJO.KMAREN KEGOCEK
  
  Yg kegocek yg dengerin Tbumi, wkwkwkw
  
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  Tweet : @JT_jsxtrader
  
  
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  On Behalf Of Fans of JT
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RE: [ob] DOW IJO.KMAREN KEGOCEK

2010-04-08 Terurut Topik JT
Yg kegocek yg dengerin Tbumi, wkwkwkw

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On Behalf Of Fans of JT
Sent: 09 April 2010 6:17
To: Obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] DOW IJO.KMAREN KEGOCEK


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Re: [ob] DOW IJO.KMAREN KEGOCEK

2010-04-08 Terurut Topik highwaystar91
Hati2 dipatok ular! :D

Sent from my computer of course!

-Original Message-
From: JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 09:20:19 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ob] DOW IJO.KMAREN KEGOCEK

Yg kegocek yg dengerin Tbumi, wkwkwkw

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Tweet : @JT_jsxtrader


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Subject: [ob] DOW IJO.KMAREN KEGOCEK


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Re: [ob] DOW IJO.KMAREN KEGOCEK

2010-04-08 Terurut Topik kangduren
kejeduk kali?
banyak yg nefsong hajar kanan nih, indeks melorot lagi, hehehe..

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, highwaysta...@... wrote:

 Hati2 dipatok ular! :D
 
 Sent from my computer of course!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JT jsxtra...@...
 Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 09:20:19 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [ob] DOW IJO.KMAREN KEGOCEK
 
 Yg kegocek yg dengerin Tbumi, wkwkwkw
 
 Web : www.JsxTrader.com
 Tweet : @JT_jsxtrader
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Fans of JT
 Sent: 09 April 2010 6:17
 To: Obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [ob] DOW IJO.KMAREN KEGOCEK
 
 
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Re: [ob] DOW nocan 10888 +0.95%

2010-03-23 Terurut Topik bayu_kusuma_wardhana
Klo sumi sm tlkm masih kontrarian ga ya..klo iya mah sungguh terlalu..


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From: Tommy Yu tradersej...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 23:59:29 
To: Obrolan Bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] DOW nocan 10888 +0.95%

Semoga hari ini jsx bisa bermain cantik juga :)
n yg nyangkut bisa segera keluar.


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Re: [ob] DOW nocan 10888 +0.95%

2010-03-23 Terurut Topik Tommy Yu
Nah itu terserah BD nya.. 
Mau nurunin bonex dulu kalii.krn kaga bayar karcis.
Nanti juga lompat kodok lagi.. 
TLKM menarik sih.. Boleh tuh di collect 
BUMI masih nanggung kalo koreksi masih bisa ke 2100an jadi better wait n see 
dulu lahh...

Salam Cuan,
Tommy Yu
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-Original Message-
From: bayu_kusuma_wardh...@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:02:49 
To: Obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] DOW nocan 10888 +0.95%

Klo sumi sm tlkm masih kontrarian ga ya..klo iya mah sungguh terlalu..


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-Original Message-
From: Tommy Yu tradersej...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 23:59:29 
To: Obrolan Bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] DOW nocan 10888 +0.95%

Semoga hari ini jsx bisa bermain cantik juga :)
n yg nyangkut bisa segera keluar.


Salam Cuan,
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RE: [ob] DOW nocan 10888 +0.95%

2010-03-23 Terurut Topik Aria Bela Nusa
Sptnya BUMI 'na masih mencoba2 tes support di 2,200 itu - dr pola Chart yg
ada (ROUNDINGS TOP beberapa kali) masih terlihat/terasa tekanan jual2nya

 

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From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Tommy Yu
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:11 AM
To: Obrolan Bandar
Subject: Re: [ob] DOW nocan 10888 +0.95%

Nah itu terserah BD nya.. 
Mau nurunin bonex dulu kalii.krn kaga bayar karcis.
Nanti juga lompat kodok lagi.. 
TLKM menarik sih.. Boleh tuh di collect 
BUMI masih nanggung kalo koreksi masih bisa ke 2100an jadi better wait n see
dulu lahh...

Salam Cuan,
Tommy Yu
---
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From: bayu_kusuma_wardh...@yahoo.com 

Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:02:49 +

To: Obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ob] DOW nocan 10888 +0.95%

 

Klo sumi sm tlkm masih kontrarian ga ya..klo iya mah sungguh terlalu..

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From: Tommy Yu tradersej...@gmail.com 

Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 23:59:29 +

To: Obrolan Bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [ob] DOW nocan 10888 +0.95%

 

  

Semoga hari ini jsx bisa bermain cantik juga :)
n yg nyangkut bisa segera keluar.

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Re: [ob] DOW 10,800

2010-03-22 Terurut Topik Irwan Napitupulu
DOW menuju 11500 sebelum akhir Juli 2010 masih sesuai perkiraan
perkiraan awal Pebruari lalu :)

Selama chart masih ngga bilang sell, harapan melihat DOW ke 11500
tetap terbuka. Percaya saja sama chart. Karena chart ngga bisa mikir.
Dia polos, polos banget. Jadi, chart sangat cocok bagi orang yg malas
mikir yg rumit2 :)

IAN


On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 12:12 AM,  hexam...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Barusan jam 12:07 waktu BB saya, DJI tembus 10,800.. Mudah2an awet dh 
 sehingga yg pada nyangkut bsok pada bsa keluar.. Hehe..


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RE: [ob] DOW -158

2010-02-25 Terurut Topik InfoSaham
Menarik mencermati bahwa news mengkonfirmasi TA dan demikian sebaliknya TA
mengkonfirmasi news.

 

Beberapa waktu lalu saat dow jatuh dari level tertingginya di 10700-an
dibarengi berita Obama menggebrak spekulan. Secara chart saat itu triple
zigzag DJI berakhir.

 

http://www.infosahamidx.com/index.php?option=com_content
http://www.infosahamidx.com/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=17
:djia100124-triple-zigzagcatid=4:us-marketItemid=8
view=articleid=17:djia100124-triple-zigzagcatid=4:us-marketItemid=8

 

Saat ini dikala wave B (atau wave 2) dow jones berakhir berita buruk pun
dikeluarkan untuk mengkonfirmasi chart.

 

What a coincidence!

 

 

2010/2/25 SSTrader01 febry.hariyannugr...@gmail.com

  

Dow opening langsung drop 150 point ... 

Gara-gara data pengangguran dan resesi Yunani ...



Re: [ob] Dow : VWAP MFI

2010-02-25 Terurut Topik hexamail
Ini baru menenangkan...


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-Original Message-
From: Tasrul Tanar tasru...@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 07:19:05 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com; 
jsxtrader-alu...@yahoogroups.com; seputar-...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] Dow : VWAP  MFI

Kok takut amat sama si  Dow, yang diperhatikan kalau market kita crash, lihat 
aja rupiah, saya pikir gak akan banyak bertingkah . Lagian jika koreksi sampai 
level 10,171.21 (berdasarkan VWAP dari trough tgl 5 Feb) masih wajarlah karena 
MFI nya juga turun.
Bagi saya koreksi adalah peluang, kapan lagi dapat barang murah.

Terlampir VWAP dan MFI per tgl  24 Feb 2010.


  


Re: [ob] Dow : VWAP MFI

2010-02-25 Terurut Topik Andre Andre
Si Bozz lagi liburan om jt...next week baru balik





From: JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 10:36:35 PM
Subject: RE: [ob] Dow : VWAP  MFI

   
Akur boss…, kalo liat jatuhnya saat opening gini, biasanya
Cuma buat ngehantem stop level aja aja lah, dan rasanya sih bisa tutup off 
low….,
tapi whatever lah, semalem dow Ijo, kita juga ngga ikutan tho?, so what the 
hell…..,
kumaha engke wae lah…. hehe……..  J
 
JT
 
 
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From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] 
On
Behalf Of Tasrul Tanar
Sent: 25 Februari 2010 22:19
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com; jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com;
JsxTrader-Alumni@ yahoogroups. com; seputar-idx@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [ob] Dow : VWAP  MFI
 



Kok takut amat sama si  Dow,
yang diperhatikan kalau market kita crash, lihat aja rupiah, saya pikir gak
akan banyak bertingkah . Lagian jika koreksi sampai level 10,171.21
(berdasarkan VWAP dari trough tgl 5 Feb) masih wajarlah karena MFI nya juga
turun.
Bagi saya koreksi adalah peluang,
kapan lagi dapat barang murah.
 
Terlampir VWAP dan MFI per
tgl  24 Feb 2010.




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Re: [ob] DOW IJO

2010-02-24 Terurut Topik A'BANG ®UJAK
Gak punya duit !!!

A'BANG ®UJAK : Bukan cari uang, hanya ingin senang-senang

-Original Message-
From: 5 X 20 ediesiswo...@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 06:43:13 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] DOW IJO

IJO IJO IJO  AYO,anak tambang besuk , bantuin dorong ADRO n BMRI 
saya, telkomnya buang aja
 
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Re: [ob] DOW Today

2010-02-23 Terurut Topik HepisahaM

Sharing info saja,

Low dow menjebol peak 10314,839  yg di tembus 3 hari lalu. Sekarang level peak 
tsb lagi diuji. Sementara Nasdaq sudah melemah sejak kemarin and now -1,36% di 
2211. Peak nasdaq di 2194.53. Make sure level ini tdk dijebol dulu.

DJUSCL now -4,1%.


Disc. On.

 
with kind regards
hepisaham

Buy only Stock when HEPI RISK LEVEL is LOW
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-Original Message-
From: SSTrader01 febry.hariyannugr...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:48:38 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] DOW Today

Pas opening sempet Ijo gara-gara harga rumah nai 0.3% di bulan December.
Intinya ada sign recovery.
Nggak berapa lama, dikeluarin berita sama BD sono, Consumer Confidence drop
 jadi merah deh 0.7% ...
Padahal MACY profitnya naik besar, begitu juga dengan TARGET ..  ..
Jadi rancu ...


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Stocks-retreat-after-apf-1353113612.html?x=0sec=topStoriespos=mainasset=ccode
=
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Home-prices-rise-03-percent-apf-3958167088.html?x=0sec=topStoriespos=1asset=ccode
=
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Macys-returns-to-4Q-profit-apf-2041227456.html?x=0sec=topStoriespos=3asset=ccode
=



Re: [ob] DOW Today

2010-02-23 Terurut Topik JsxSniper
Wah kompor neh...
Hh...

Abis lepas barang ya neng...

-One shoot-

www.financestockinfo.blogspot.com

-Original Message-
From: HepisahaM hepisa...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:13:34 
To: Obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] DOW Today


Sharing info saja,

Low dow menjebol peak 10314,839  yg di tembus 3 hari lalu. Sekarang level peak 
tsb lagi diuji. Sementara Nasdaq sudah melemah sejak kemarin and now -1,36% di 
2211. Peak nasdaq di 2194.53. Make sure level ini tdk dijebol dulu.

DJUSCL now -4,1%.


Disc. On.

 
with kind regards
hepisaham

Buy only Stock when HEPI RISK LEVEL is LOW
Powered by Risk Based Trading System (RBTS)
Facebook : hepisaham

-Original Message-
From: SSTrader01 febry.hariyannugr...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:48:38 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] DOW Today

Pas opening sempet Ijo gara-gara harga rumah nai 0.3% di bulan December.
Intinya ada sign recovery.
Nggak berapa lama, dikeluarin berita sama BD sono, Consumer Confidence drop
 jadi merah deh 0.7% ...
Padahal MACY profitnya naik besar, begitu juga dengan TARGET ..  ..
Jadi rancu ...


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Stocks-retreat-after-apf-1353113612.html?x=0sec=topStoriespos=mainasset=ccode
=
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Home-prices-rise-03-percent-apf-3958167088.html?x=0sec=topStoriespos=1asset=ccode
=
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Macys-returns-to-4Q-profit-apf-2041227456.html?x=0sec=topStoriespos=3asset=ccode
=



Re: [ob] Dow jam 22:28 +0,76%

2010-02-16 Terurut Topik Andre Andre
Baru golden cross macd si dow...moga2 lanjut sampe tembus center line





From: Tommy Yu tradersej...@gmail.com
To: Obrolan Bandar obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 10:32:24 PM
Subject: [ob] Dow jam 22:28  +0,76%

   
Moga lanjut atau bertahn ampe closing
Biar bisa panen kebunnya.

Rgds.
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Re: [ob] Dow jam 22:28 +0,76%

2010-02-16 Terurut Topik Febry Hariyannugraha
Jemuran kemaren udah ada yang ngembat lagi :(
Beli harga atas deh ...


Re: [ob] DOW AMSIONG-Selamat yg sdh Ambil ANGPAU....!

2010-02-12 Terurut Topik Andre Andre
kaga jebol om koba moga2






From: kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Cc: seputar IDX yahoo.group. seputar-...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 11:00:45 PM
Subject: [ob] DOW AMSIONG-Selamat yg sdh Ambil ANGPAU!

   
KALAU GARIS STAICASE INI 9974,80 DIJEBOL...REPOT DECH MG DEPAN..!!!
 STAICASE  koreksi =Staircase





 Dari: kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobayashi@ yahoo.co. id
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Cc: seputar IDX yahoo.group. seputar-idx@ yahoogroups. com
Terkirim: Jum, 12 Februari, 2010 22:58:13
Judul: Bls: DOW AMSIONG-Selamat yg sdh Ambil ANGPAU!


KALAU GARIS STAICASE INI 9974,80 DIJEBOL...REPOT DECH MG DEPAN..!!!
 





 Dari: kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobayashi@ yahoo.co. id
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Cc: seputar IDX yahoo.group. seputar-idx@ yahoogroups. com
Terkirim: Jum, 12 Februari, 2010 22:48:01
Judul: DOW AMSIONG-Selamat yg sdh Ambil ANGPAU!


Chart DOW 12-02-2010.saat ini AMSIONG...!
Bahgusnya besok kita sdh libur...!
Tambahkan keterangan gambar
Chart DOW 12-02-2010.saat ini AMSIONG...!
Bahgusnya besok kita sdh libur...! 
 
 
 
Chart DOW 12-02-2010.saat ini AMSIONG...!
Bahgusnya besok kita sdh libur.. 
 
 

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Re: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate

2010-02-10 Terurut Topik stock . breeder

Huhuhhuhuhuhhu Embah nyerah sebelum bertanding nih??? :( :( :(





-Original Message-
From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:17:16 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate

Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate

Saat ini -75

Istirahat dah... 




Re: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate

2010-02-10 Terurut Topik Bagus Putra Perdana
gakan dalam waktu dekat ini lah mbah., ekonominya masih empot-empot an gitu.
inflation belon pick-up. hitungan Taylor rule untuk fed rate malah saat ini
masih Minus. atau suggestive theoretical interest rate adalah minus
sebenernya

2010/2/10 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id



 Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate

 Saat ini -75

 Istirahat dah...

  




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Re: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate

2010-02-10 Terurut Topik A9


Kata neng FIFI, belum bertanding kok udah nyerah.
Hehehee..

Canda mbah. 

Jadi serius nih nyerah pake bendera putih...?

Santai aja mbah.
 
Dow masih bisa berubah, dgn DOA siapa tau DOW jadi ijo.

Istirahat aja, tidur pules.



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Re: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate

2010-02-10 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Pengumuman Suku bunga itu dari Gubernur Bank Sentral langsung,
yaitu sebuah institusi yg paling ditakuti oleh Presiden AS. Jadi 
kemungkinannya pengumuman ini sudah bocor sebelumnya KECIL
SEKALI...

Tapi kita liat aja closingnya



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 Huhuhhuhuhuhhu Embah nyerah sebelum bertanding nih??? :( :( :(
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@...
 Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:17:16 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate
 
 Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate
 
 Saat ini -75
 
 Istirahat dah...





Re: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate

2010-02-10 Terurut Topik TimurLangit
Jagoan emang selalu kalah duluan udah tradisi

tadi aja Rambo eh.. mbah pergi... langsung berdarah-darah semua... untung 
rambo udah balik lagi 

ampyuuunn mbah





From: stock.bree...@yahoo.com stock.bree...@yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, February 10, 2010 10:22:09 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate

  

Huhuhhuhuhuhhu Embah nyerah sebelum bertanding nih??? :( :( :(







From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id 
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:17:16 -
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate
  
Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate

Saat ini -75

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Re: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate

2010-02-10 Terurut Topik stock . breeder

Investment n derivatives prohibited.. Discount rate soar up.. Bank back to 
basic.. Genjot lending growth with most likely the same NIM.. Bakalan berabe 
gak yah nasib bank2 sana???.. Perhaps another eligible instrument soon be 
launched for NFI booster???^^.. Semua ada caranya lah^^.. Kang Ocoy fundamental 
picturenya please nih Uncle Sam ekonomi nya piye kedepan ne ^^




-Original Message-
From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:26:28 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate

Pengumuman Suku bunga itu dari Gubernur Bank Sentral langsung,
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 -Original Message-
 From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@...
 Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:17:16 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate
 
 Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate
 
 Saat ini -75
 
 Istirahat dah...






Re: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Negatif trade

2010-02-10 Terurut Topik FANS OF JT
Bukannya jatuhnya karena negatife trade? buak discount rate?

--- On Wed, 2/10/10, TimurLangit i4...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: TimurLangit i4...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 10:28 PM


  





Jagoan emang selalu kalah duluan udah tradisi
 
tadi aja Rambo... eh.. mbah pergi... langsung berdarah-darah semua... untung 
rambo udah balik lagi 
 
ampyuuunn mbah





From: stock.breeder@ yahoo.com stock.breeder@ yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, February 10, 2010 10:22:09 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate

  


Huhuhhuhuhuhhu Embah nyerah sebelum bertanding nih??? :( :( :(







From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id 
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:17:16 -
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate

  

Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate

Saat ini -75

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Re: [ob] DOW -88 angka hoki

2010-02-10 Terurut Topik Febry Hariyannugraha
Barusan sekilas kelihatan ketika Oil diturunin (-1.4%) .. DOW dinaikin dikit
.. (-0.58%) ..
Ada jurus Yin dan Yang juga kayaknya di DOW ...


Re: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate

2010-02-10 Terurut Topik Bagus Putra Perdana
belon dalam waktu dekat ini mbah... masa ekonominya begitu bunga mo
dinaekin...

kalo saya gak salah hitungan indikatif officialnya fed rate kan kira2
seperti ini ; i = 2.4 + 1.39π + 0.92ygap

Asumsi Core Inflation amerika saat ini = 1.5%, output gap between actual en
potential=  - 6 %,

pada saat ini posisinya, 1.39 * 1.5 % + 0.92 * 6 % + 2.4 = -1,035 %. karena
bunga fed gak bisa minus maka dikasih stimulus senilai jumlah teoritikal
minusnya tadi. hal yg bisa bikin fed naekkin fed ratenya lebih cepat hanya 2
hal ;

1. output gap menipis (ekonomi recover lebih cepat dan lebih kuat).
2. inflasi pick up.


untuk saat ini saya skeptis bernanke bener mau naikkin bunga fed, maksudnya
mungkin kata dia nanti kalo ekonomi udah mulai ok dan pulih, kita tarik
stimulusnya or kita naekin fed rate nya, salah satu tools indikator fed
nentuin suku bunga teoritisnya ya formula diatas yg saya kasih tadi.





2010/2/10 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id



 Pengumuman Suku bunga itu dari Gubernur Bank Sentral langsung,
 yaitu sebuah institusi yg paling ditakuti oleh Presiden AS. Jadi
 kemungkinannya pengumuman ini sudah bocor sebelumnya KECIL
 SEKALI...

 Tapi kita liat aja closingnya


 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 stock.bree...@... wrote:
 
 
  Huhuhhuhuhuhhu Embah nyerah sebelum bertanding nih??? :( :( :(
 
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@...
  Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:17:16
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate
 
  Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate
 
  Saat ini -75
 
  Istirahat dah...
 

  




-- 
Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the
complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact,
everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that
we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only
to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all
knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific truth.
- Richard Feynman


Re: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Negatif trade

2010-02-10 Terurut Topik Bagus Putra Perdana
kalo jatuh karena negative trade, memperkuat alasan untuk Fed rate stays low
karena output gap masih besar (kecuali inflasi pick-up duluan)

2010/2/10 FANS OF JT ediesiswo...@yahoo.com



 Bukannya jatuhnya karena negatife trade? buak discount rate?

 --- On *Wed, 2/10/10, TimurLangit i4...@yahoo.com* wrote:


 From: TimurLangit i4...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 10:28 PM


  Jagoan emang selalu kalah duluan udah tradisi

 tadi aja Rambo... eh.. mbah pergi... langsung berdarah-darah semua...
 untung rambo udah balik lagi

 ampyuuunn mbah

  --
 *From:* stock.breeder@ yahoo.com stock.breeder@ yahoo.com
 *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 *Sent:* Wed, February 10, 2010 10:22:09 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate



 Huhuhhuhuhuhhu Embah nyerah sebelum bertanding nih??? :( :( :(




 --
 *From: *jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id
 *Date: *Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:17:16 -
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 *Subject: *[ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate


 Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate

 Saat ini -75

 Istirahat dah...



  




-- 
Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the
complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact,
everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that
we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only
to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all
knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”.
- Richard Feynman


Re: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Negatif trade

2010-02-10 Terurut Topik Febry Hariyannugraha
NEW YORK (AP) -- The stock market is falling as Federal Reserve Chairman Ben
Bernanke details plans for dismantling the central bank's economic support
measures.

Bernanke says in prepared remarks to a House committee Wednesday that the
Fed likely will begin tightening credit by raising the interest rate it pays
to banks on the money they have deposited at the Fed.

That would lead to an increase in borrowing rates for consumers and
businesses. The Fed chief cautioned that the central bank is not yet ready
to boost interest rates.

The Dow Jones industrial average is down 75 at 9,983 after being flat ahead
of Bernanke's comments. The Standard  Poor's 500 index is down 9 at 1,062.
The Nasdaq composite index is down 16 at 2,135.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information.
AP's earlier story is below.


Re: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate

2010-02-10 Terurut Topik Febry Hariyannugraha
Buy On Weakness Kang Ocoy ?
Ayo dong Kang .. sekali-kali kasih komando atuh .. :) :) :)


Re: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate

2010-02-10 Terurut Topik Dean Earwicker
beda sama p boyz yang tukang nyangkul, kalo kang ocoy yang punya sawah..
wkwkwk

Pada 10 Februari 2010 22:52, Febry Hariyannugraha 
febry.hariyannugr...@gmail.com menulis:



 Buy On Weakness Kang Ocoy ?
 Ayo dong Kang .. sekali-kali kasih komando atuh .. :) :) :)




Re: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Negatif trade

2010-02-10 Terurut Topik Dean Earwicker
dollar menguat terus dari awal taun, mestinya inflasi ga issue dong kang?

2010/2/10 Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.com


 kalo jatuh karena negative trade, memperkuat alasan untuk Fed rate stays low 
 karena output gap masih besar (kecuali inflasi pick-up duluan)


Re: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate

2010-02-10 Terurut Topik Bagus Putra Perdana
kalo perkiraan bego2an saya mungkin baru H2 2010 mulai ada kenaikan fed
rate, dengan asumsi GDP mulai meningkat, Output gap turun, dan inflasi
sedikit pick up mendekati 2-2.5% di paruh ke2 2010.

but i'm bad with macroeconomy though. yang saya tahu pasti beberapa emiten
di Indonesia dari mulai sales sampe bottomline sampe FCFnya tetep solid
dengan mint balance sheet structure dan net cash per share position gede.
should they go down i'd gladly switch my Bonds to equity at an even deeper
bargain.

2010/2/10 Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.com

 belon dalam waktu dekat ini mbah... masa ekonominya begitu bunga mo
 dinaekin...

 kalo saya gak salah hitungan indikatif officialnya fed rate kan kira2
 seperti ini ; i = 2.4 + 1.39π + 0.92ygap

 Asumsi Core Inflation amerika saat ini = 1.5%, output gap between actual en
 potential=  - 6 %,

 pada saat ini posisinya, 1.39 * 1.5 % + 0.92 * 6 % + 2.4 = -1,035 %. karena
 bunga fed gak bisa minus maka dikasih stimulus senilai jumlah teoritikal
 minusnya tadi. hal yg bisa bikin fed naekkin fed ratenya lebih cepat hanya 2
 hal ;

 1. output gap menipis (ekonomi recover lebih cepat dan lebih kuat).
 2. inflasi pick up.


 untuk saat ini saya skeptis bernanke bener mau naikkin bunga fed, maksudnya
 mungkin kata dia nanti kalo ekonomi udah mulai ok dan pulih, kita tarik
 stimulusnya or kita naekin fed rate nya, salah satu tools indikator fed
 nentuin suku bunga teoritisnya ya formula diatas yg saya kasih tadi.





 2010/2/10 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id



 Pengumuman Suku bunga itu dari Gubernur Bank Sentral langsung,
 yaitu sebuah institusi yg paling ditakuti oleh Presiden AS. Jadi
 kemungkinannya pengumuman ini sudah bocor sebelumnya KECIL
 SEKALI...

 Tapi kita liat aja closingnya


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 stock.bree...@... wrote:
 
 
  Huhuhhuhuhuhhu Embah nyerah sebelum bertanding nih??? :( :( :(
 
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@...
  Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:17:16
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate
 
  Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate
 
  Saat ini -75
 
  Istirahat dah...
 

  




 --
 Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the
 complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact,
 everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that
 we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only
 to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all
 knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific truth.
 - Richard Feynman




-- 
Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the
complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact,
everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that
we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only
to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all
knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific truth.
- Richard Feynman


Re: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Negatif trade

2010-02-10 Terurut Topik Bagus Putra Perdana
makanya set core inflation saya masih 1.5%. consensus kan 2% keatas kang DE,
tp sampe saat ini inflation threatsnya blon nyata deh, sementara
unemployment masih tinggi, GDP letoy. masa iye si botak mo naekkin Fed rate
sekarang2?...

2010/2/10 Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com



 dollar menguat terus dari awal taun, mestinya inflasi ga issue dong kang?

 2010/2/10 Bagus Putra Perdana 
 disclosure@gmail.comdisclosure.inc%40gmail.com
 

 
 
  kalo jatuh karena negative trade, memperkuat alasan untuk Fed rate stays
 low karena output gap masih besar (kecuali inflasi pick-up duluan)
  




-- 
Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the
complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact,
everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that
we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only
to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all
knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”.
- Richard Feynman


Re: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate

2010-02-10 Terurut Topik stock . breeder

Akurr Kang Ocoy.. 2 basic deal.. Low cost economic n CPI PPI related.. 
CMIIW tapi bukannya biasa emang DISC RATE nyolong start duluan seblm FED RATE 
jalan???^^


BTW Kang Ocoy sekolahnya dimana sih kok PINTERnya AMIT2.. Si 
AMIT tetangga gue aja GAK PINTER2^^





-Original Message-
From: Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:45:11 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate

belon dalam waktu dekat ini mbah... masa ekonominya begitu bunga mo
dinaekin...

kalo saya gak salah hitungan indikatif officialnya fed rate kan kira2
seperti ini ; i = 2.4 + 1.39π + 0.92ygap

Asumsi Core Inflation amerika saat ini = 1.5%, output gap between actual en
potential=  - 6 %,

pada saat ini posisinya, 1.39 * 1.5 % + 0.92 * 6 % + 2.4 = -1,035 %. karena
bunga fed gak bisa minus maka dikasih stimulus senilai jumlah teoritikal
minusnya tadi. hal yg bisa bikin fed naekkin fed ratenya lebih cepat hanya 2
hal ;

1. output gap menipis (ekonomi recover lebih cepat dan lebih kuat).
2. inflasi pick up.


untuk saat ini saya skeptis bernanke bener mau naikkin bunga fed, maksudnya
mungkin kata dia nanti kalo ekonomi udah mulai ok dan pulih, kita tarik
stimulusnya or kita naekin fed rate nya, salah satu tools indikator fed
nentuin suku bunga teoritisnya ya formula diatas yg saya kasih tadi.





2010/2/10 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id



 Pengumuman Suku bunga itu dari Gubernur Bank Sentral langsung,
 yaitu sebuah institusi yg paling ditakuti oleh Presiden AS. Jadi
 kemungkinannya pengumuman ini sudah bocor sebelumnya KECIL
 SEKALI...

 Tapi kita liat aja closingnya


 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 stock.bree...@... wrote:
 
 
  Huhuhhuhuhuhhu Embah nyerah sebelum bertanding nih??? :( :( :(
 
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@...
  Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:17:16
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate
 
  Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate
 
  Saat ini -75
 
  Istirahat dah...
 

  




-- 
Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the
complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact,
everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that
we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only
to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all
knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific truth.
- Richard Feynman



Re: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate

2010-02-10 Terurut Topik Febry Hariyannugraha
STAN dnng ... :)
Dulu ane suruh masuk STAN nggak mau .. :(


Re: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate

2010-02-10 Terurut Topik Bagus Putra Perdana
nah justru itu, boleh gak kita simpulkan kalo the fed udah pede naekkin suku
bunga berarti leading indicatornya bernanke udah nunjukkin data positif or
dia konfiden en yakin ekonomi sudah aman dan kembali ke jalur pertumbuhan,
gdp tumbuh mendekati potentialnya hingga output gap menipis, unemployment
akan mulai turun dan inflasi bisa mulai datang (sehingga harus dicounter
dengan kenaikan suku bunga).

sampai saat ini data kita semua belum menunjukkan hal itu, tapi kalo beneran
si botak mo naekkin berarti dia paling engga punya data solid bahwa dalam
waktu dekat 1. inflasi bakal menyerang or 2. ekonomi sudah aman dan siap
dilepas Stimulusnya. karena yang no 1 kayanya gak gitu nyata, yg ke 2
mungkin yang lebih jadi pertimbangannya. lalu, sudah priced-in kah kondisi
no 2?. kalo belum, mungkin yang terasa adalah alasan no.2 belum cukup nyata
untuk dirasakan oleh kita semua. hingga seharusnya tidak dalam waktu dekat
ini fed rate dinaikkan.


aduh jgn ngomongin sekolah pak, jadi malu nih saya, s1 aje blon lulus
lulus...



2010/2/10 stock.bree...@yahoo.com




 Akurr Kang Ocoy.. 2 basic deal.. Low cost economic n CPI PPI related..
 CMIIW tapi bukannya biasa emang DISC RATE nyolong start duluan seblm FED
 RATE jalan???^^


 BTW Kang Ocoy sekolahnya dimana sih kok PINTERnya AMIT2..
 Si AMIT tetangga gue aja GAK PINTER2^^




 --
 *From: * Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.com
 *Date: *Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:45:11 +0700
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate



 belon dalam waktu dekat ini mbah... masa ekonominya begitu bunga mo
 dinaekin...

 kalo saya gak salah hitungan indikatif officialnya fed rate kan kira2
 seperti ini ; i = 2.4 + 1.39π + 0.92ygap

 Asumsi Core Inflation amerika saat ini = 1.5%, output gap between actual en
 potential=  - 6 %,

 pada saat ini posisinya, 1.39 * 1.5 % + 0.92 * 6 % + 2.4 = -1,035 %. karena
 bunga fed gak bisa minus maka dikasih stimulus senilai jumlah teoritikal
 minusnya tadi. hal yg bisa bikin fed naekkin fed ratenya lebih cepat hanya 2
 hal ;

 1. output gap menipis (ekonomi recover lebih cepat dan lebih kuat).
 2. inflasi pick up.


 untuk saat ini saya skeptis bernanke bener mau naikkin bunga fed, maksudnya
 mungkin kata dia nanti kalo ekonomi udah mulai ok dan pulih, kita tarik
 stimulusnya or kita naekin fed rate nya, salah satu tools indikator fed
 nentuin suku bunga teoritisnya ya formula diatas yg saya kasih tadi.





 2010/2/10 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id



 Pengumuman Suku bunga itu dari Gubernur Bank Sentral langsung,
 yaitu sebuah institusi yg paling ditakuti oleh Presiden AS. Jadi
 kemungkinannya pengumuman ini sudah bocor sebelumnya KECIL
 SEKALI...

 Tapi kita liat aja closingnya


 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 stock.bree...@... wrote:
 
 
  Huhuhhuhuhuhhu Embah nyerah sebelum bertanding nih??? :( :( :(
 
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@...
  Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:17:16
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate
 
  Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate
 
  Saat ini -75
 
  Istirahat dah...
 




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 Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the
 complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact,
 everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that
 we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only
 to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all
 knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific truth.
 - Richard Feynman
   




-- 
Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the
complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact,
everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that
we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only
to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all
knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific truth.
- Richard Feynman


Re: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate

2010-02-10 Terurut Topik -Candra Wu
Untuk fed rate, rumor nya ada yang bilang katanya belum tentu  naik tahun ini 
dan kemungkinan pertengahan tahun depan.
-Original Message-
From: Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:56:57 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate

kalo perkiraan bego2an saya mungkin baru H2 2010 mulai ada kenaikan fed
rate, dengan asumsi GDP mulai meningkat, Output gap turun, dan inflasi
sedikit pick up mendekati 2-2.5% di paruh ke2 2010.

but i'm bad with macroeconomy though. yang saya tahu pasti beberapa emiten
di Indonesia dari mulai sales sampe bottomline sampe FCFnya tetep solid
dengan mint balance sheet structure dan net cash per share position gede.
should they go down i'd gladly switch my Bonds to equity at an even deeper
bargain.

2010/2/10 Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.com

 belon dalam waktu dekat ini mbah... masa ekonominya begitu bunga mo
 dinaekin...

 kalo saya gak salah hitungan indikatif officialnya fed rate kan kira2
 seperti ini ; i = 2.4 + 1.39π + 0.92ygap

 Asumsi Core Inflation amerika saat ini = 1.5%, output gap between actual en
 potential=  - 6 %,

 pada saat ini posisinya, 1.39 * 1.5 % + 0.92 * 6 % + 2.4 = -1,035 %. karena
 bunga fed gak bisa minus maka dikasih stimulus senilai jumlah teoritikal
 minusnya tadi. hal yg bisa bikin fed naekkin fed ratenya lebih cepat hanya 2
 hal ;

 1. output gap menipis (ekonomi recover lebih cepat dan lebih kuat).
 2. inflasi pick up.


 untuk saat ini saya skeptis bernanke bener mau naikkin bunga fed, maksudnya
 mungkin kata dia nanti kalo ekonomi udah mulai ok dan pulih, kita tarik
 stimulusnya or kita naekin fed rate nya, salah satu tools indikator fed
 nentuin suku bunga teoritisnya ya formula diatas yg saya kasih tadi.





 2010/2/10 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id



 Pengumuman Suku bunga itu dari Gubernur Bank Sentral langsung,
 yaitu sebuah institusi yg paling ditakuti oleh Presiden AS. Jadi
 kemungkinannya pengumuman ini sudah bocor sebelumnya KECIL
 SEKALI...

 Tapi kita liat aja closingnya


 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 stock.bree...@... wrote:
 
 
  Huhuhhuhuhuhhu Embah nyerah sebelum bertanding nih??? :( :( :(
 
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@...
  Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:17:16
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ob] Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate
 
  Dow open jatuh, Bernanke mau naekin Discount Rate
 
  Saat ini -75
 
  Istirahat dah...
 

  




 --
 Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the
 complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact,
 everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that
 we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only
 to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all
 knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific truth.
 - Richard Feynman




-- 
Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the
complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact,
everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that
we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only
to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all
knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific truth.
- Richard Feynman



Re: [ob] Dow +2.06% at 12:18 am

2010-02-09 Terurut Topik Febry Hariyannugraha
Nggak tutup 2% .. cuma 1.5% ...
Lumayan lah ... :) Mudah-mudahan BD nggak iseng kontrarian ...

2010/2/9 Tommy Yu tradersej...@gmail.com



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Re: [ob] Dow +2.06% at 12:18 am

2010-02-09 Terurut Topik Tommy Yu
gak apa lah yg penting bisa close diatas ceban.
Semoga Hari ini ihsg bisa naik kenceng, n lepas dari gocekan. (hehe bagi yg 
nyangkut)

Cheers 
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-Original Message-
From: Febry Hariyannugraha febry.hariyannugr...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 15:06:51 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow +2.06% at 12:18 am

Nggak tutup 2% .. cuma 1.5% ...
Lumayan lah ... :) Mudah-mudahan BD nggak iseng kontrarian ...

2010/2/9 Tommy Yu tradersej...@gmail.com



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Re: [ob] Dow minus..

2010-02-08 Terurut Topik Febry Hariyannugraha
Pembuktian candle dow kemaren, reversal with volume, valid atau nggak neh
...
We'll see .. masih ada beberapa jam lagi ...
Baru juga ronde 1 .. baru pemanasan ... :)


Re: [ob] Dow minus..

2010-02-08 Terurut Topik didit kristo
Balik lagi tu om..mudah-mudahn ijo deh.

On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Herry Panatta p_...@yahoo.co.id wrote:



 Minus 0.70% o ... :(


 [herry]
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 *From: * JsxSniper jsxsni...@yahoo.co.id
 *Date: *Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:42:06 +
 *To: *Obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *[ob] Dow minus..



 9.39 am
 9,976 (0.36%)

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Re: [ob] Dow minus..

2010-02-08 Terurut Topik indeksbei3000
Udah, pada tidur aja...
Emang pada Trading di Dow ???
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-Original Message-
From: Febry Hariyannugraha febry.hariyannugr...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:00:05 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Pembuktian candle dow kemaren, reversal with volume, valid atau nggak neh
...
We'll see .. masih ada beberapa jam lagi ...
Baru juga ronde 1 .. baru pemanasan ... :)



Re: [ob] Dow minus..

2010-02-08 Terurut Topik jkunci
Dow ijo aja kita bisa minus 3%. So tenang aja lah :)



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-Original Message-
From: Herry Panatta p_...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:50:58 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Minus 0.70% o ... :(


[herry]


-Original Message-
From: JsxSniper jsxsni...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:42:06 
To: Obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] Dow minus..

9.39 am
9,976 (0.36%)

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Re: [ob] Dow minus..

2010-02-08 Terurut Topik Andre Andre
Msh blm keliatan jam segini...final hour aja baru liat




From: Febry Hariyannugraha febry.hariyannugr...@gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 10:00:05 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

  
Pembuktian candle dow kemaren, reversal with volume, valid atau nggak neh ... 
We'll see .. masih ada beberapa jam lagi ... 
Baru juga ronde 1 .. baru pemanasan ... :) 


 


  

Re: [ob] Dow minus..

2010-02-08 Terurut Topik Herry Panatta
Ok de bos.. Jadi kita ngarep dow minus 3% besok kita ijo 3% ya...hehehehe 


[herry]


-Original Message-
From: jku...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:03:23 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Dow ijo aja kita bisa minus 3%. So tenang aja lah :)



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-Original Message-
From: Herry Panatta p_...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:50:58 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Minus 0.70% o ... :(


[herry]


-Original Message-
From: JsxSniper jsxsni...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:42:06 
To: Obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] Dow minus..

9.39 am
9,976 (0.36%)

-One shoot-

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Re: [ob] Dow minus..

2010-02-08 Terurut Topik Andre Andre
trading dnk iseng2...lagi murah neh PCX.swingnya yahud!




From: indeksbei3...@gmail.com indeksbei3...@gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 10:01:35 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

  
 Udah, pada tidur aja...
Emang pada Trading di Dow ???
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From:  Febry Hariyannugraha febry.hariyannugrah a...@gmail.com 
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:00:05 -0600
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..
  
Pembuktian candle dow kemaren, reversal with volume, valid atau nggak neh ... 
We'll see .. masih ada beberapa jam lagi ... 
Baru juga ronde 1 .. baru pemanasan ... :) 


 


  

Re: [ob] Dow minus..

2010-02-08 Terurut Topik jkunci
Ya begitulah bro 
Lebih nyaman kalo ngarep merah  dapat ijo, daripada ngarep ijo malah dapat 
merah.
Hehehe


Salam,

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-Original Message-
From: Herry Panatta p_...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:10:19 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Ok de bos.. Jadi kita ngarep dow minus 3% besok kita ijo 3% ya...hehehehe 


[herry]


-Original Message-
From: jku...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:03:23 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Dow ijo aja kita bisa minus 3%. So tenang aja lah :)



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-Original Message-
From: Herry Panatta p_...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:50:58 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Minus 0.70% o ... :(


[herry]


-Original Message-
From: JsxSniper jsxsni...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:42:06 
To: Obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] Dow minus..

9.39 am
9,976 (0.36%)

-One shoot-

www.financestockinfo.blogspot.com




Re: [ob] Dow minus..

2010-02-08 Terurut Topik billyfrelly
Bener.. Mendingan nanti dow close di 9800.. Tapi bsk kita ijo
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-Original Message-
From: jku...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:31:22 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Ya begitulah bro 
Lebih nyaman kalo ngarep merah  dapat ijo, daripada ngarep ijo malah dapat 
merah.
Hehehe


Salam,

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-Original Message-
From: Herry Panatta p_...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:10:19 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Ok de bos.. Jadi kita ngarep dow minus 3% besok kita ijo 3% ya...hehehehe 


[herry]


-Original Message-
From: jku...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:03:23 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Dow ijo aja kita bisa minus 3%. So tenang aja lah :)



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-Original Message-
From: Herry Panatta p_...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:50:58 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Minus 0.70% o ... :(


[herry]


-Original Message-
From: JsxSniper jsxsni...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:42:06 
To: Obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] Dow minus..

9.39 am
9,976 (0.36%)

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Re: [ob] Dow minus..

2010-02-08 Terurut Topik pyriel . pyriel
Hihi da tgl -15 tuh
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-Original Message-
From: billyfre...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:36:17 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Bener.. Mendingan nanti dow close di 9800.. Tapi bsk kita ijo
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-Original Message-
From: jku...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:31:22 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Ya begitulah bro 
Lebih nyaman kalo ngarep merah  dapat ijo, daripada ngarep ijo malah dapat 
merah.
Hehehe


Salam,

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-Original Message-
From: Herry Panatta p_...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:10:19 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Ok de bos.. Jadi kita ngarep dow minus 3% besok kita ijo 3% ya...hehehehe 


[herry]


-Original Message-
From: jku...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:03:23 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Dow ijo aja kita bisa minus 3%. So tenang aja lah :)



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-Original Message-
From: Herry Panatta p_...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:50:58 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Minus 0.70% o ... :(


[herry]


-Original Message-
From: JsxSniper jsxsni...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:42:06 
To: Obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] Dow minus..

9.39 am
9,976 (0.36%)

-One shoot-

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Re: [ob] Dow minus..

2010-02-08 Terurut Topik billyfrelly
Kok hihi?? Xixixixixixiixiii
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-Original Message-
From: pyriel.pyr...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:54:54 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Hihi da tgl -15 tuh
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-Original Message-
From: billyfre...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:36:17 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Bener.. Mendingan nanti dow close di 9800.. Tapi bsk kita ijo
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-Original Message-
From: jku...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:31:22 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Ya begitulah bro 
Lebih nyaman kalo ngarep merah  dapat ijo, daripada ngarep ijo malah dapat 
merah.
Hehehe


Salam,

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-Original Message-
From: Herry Panatta p_...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:10:19 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Ok de bos.. Jadi kita ngarep dow minus 3% besok kita ijo 3% ya...hehehehe 


[herry]


-Original Message-
From: jku...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:03:23 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Dow ijo aja kita bisa minus 3%. So tenang aja lah :)



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-Original Message-
From: Herry Panatta p_...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:50:58 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Minus 0.70% o ... :(


[herry]


-Original Message-
From: JsxSniper jsxsni...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:42:06 
To: Obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] Dow minus..

9.39 am
9,976 (0.36%)

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Re: [ob] Dow minus..

2010-02-08 Terurut Topik caberawit_007
Khikikikikikiki... 
Asyik besok bisa keluar...
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From: billyfre...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:57:31 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Kok hihi?? Xixixixixixiixiii
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-Original Message-
From: pyriel.pyr...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:54:54 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Hihi da tgl -15 tuh
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-Original Message-
From: billyfre...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:36:17 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Bener.. Mendingan nanti dow close di 9800.. Tapi bsk kita ijo
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-Original Message-
From: jku...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:31:22 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Ya begitulah bro 
Lebih nyaman kalo ngarep merah  dapat ijo, daripada ngarep ijo malah dapat 
merah.
Hehehe


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-Original Message-
From: Herry Panatta p_...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:10:19 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Ok de bos.. Jadi kita ngarep dow minus 3% besok kita ijo 3% ya...hehehehe 


[herry]


-Original Message-
From: jku...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:03:23 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Dow ijo aja kita bisa minus 3%. So tenang aja lah :)



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-Original Message-
From: Herry Panatta p_...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:50:58 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Minus 0.70% o ... :(


[herry]


-Original Message-
From: JsxSniper jsxsni...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:42:06 
To: Obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] Dow minus..

9.39 am
9,976 (0.36%)

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Re: [ob] Dow minus..

2010-02-08 Terurut Topik JsxSniper
Loh.. Bahaya donk kl sampe plus..
Katanya enak minus..
Ђåª•ђåª•ђåª ...

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-Original Message-
From: pyriel.pyr...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:54:54 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Hihi da tgl -15 tuh
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-Original Message-
From: billyfre...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:36:17 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Bener.. Mendingan nanti dow close di 9800.. Tapi bsk kita ijo
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-Original Message-
From: jku...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:31:22 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Ya begitulah bro 
Lebih nyaman kalo ngarep merah  dapat ijo, daripada ngarep ijo malah dapat 
merah.
Hehehe


Salam,

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-Original Message-
From: Herry Panatta p_...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:10:19 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Ok de bos.. Jadi kita ngarep dow minus 3% besok kita ijo 3% ya...hehehehe 


[herry]


-Original Message-
From: jku...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:03:23 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Dow ijo aja kita bisa minus 3%. So tenang aja lah :)



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-Original Message-
From: Herry Panatta p_...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:50:58 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Minus 0.70% o ... :(


[herry]


-Original Message-
From: JsxSniper jsxsni...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:42:06 
To: Obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] Dow minus..

9.39 am
9,976 (0.36%)

-One shoot-

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Re: [ob] Dow minus..

2010-02-08 Terurut Topik Bagus Putra Perdana
eits belon tentu.,  putusan hakim untuk praperadilan KPC dikeluarin besok.
tapi kayanya sih KPC diatas angin. ya merah lagi aja lah, kan besok barengan
sama lelang SBN kalo merah kan gak usah jadi masang bid FR, jadi beliin
saham lagi aja... ato sekalian dimerahin idx nya, idx masuk trus lelang jg
ikut pasang FR 31 TTM 10 taon di yield 10.5-11%. kali kali aja kena. hehe
(ngarep).

2010/2/8 caberawit_...@yahoo.com



 Khikikikikikiki...
 Asyik besok bisa keluar...

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 Hihi da tgl -15 tuh

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 Bener.. Mendingan nanti dow close di 9800.. Tapi bsk kita ijo

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 *From: * jku...@yahoo.com
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 Ya begitulah bro
 Lebih nyaman kalo ngarep merah  dapat ijo, daripada ngarep ijo malah
 dapat merah.
 Hehehe


 Salam,

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 Ok de bos.. Jadi kita ngarep dow minus 3% besok kita ijo 3% ya...hehehehe


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 *From: * jku...@yahoo.com
 *Date: *Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:03:23 +
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow minus..



 Dow ijo aja kita bisa minus 3%. So tenang aja lah :)



 Salam,

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 Minus 0.70% o ... :(


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 *From: * JsxSniper jsxsni...@yahoo.co.id
 *Date: *Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:42:06 +
 *To: *Obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *[ob] Dow minus..



 9.39 am
 9,976 (0.36%)

 -One shoot-

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-- 
Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the
complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact,
everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that
we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only
to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all
knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”.
- Richard Feynman


Re: [ob] Dow minus..

2010-02-08 Terurut Topik caberawit_007
Ini masalah pelor bang...
Khikikikikikiki... 
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From: Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 23:11:51 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

eits belon tentu.,  putusan hakim untuk praperadilan KPC dikeluarin besok.
tapi kayanya sih KPC diatas angin. ya merah lagi aja lah, kan besok barengan
sama lelang SBN kalo merah kan gak usah jadi masang bid FR, jadi beliin
saham lagi aja... ato sekalian dimerahin idx nya, idx masuk trus lelang jg
ikut pasang FR 31 TTM 10 taon di yield 10.5-11%. kali kali aja kena. hehe
(ngarep).

2010/2/8 caberawit_...@yahoo.com



 Khikikikikikiki...
 Asyik besok bisa keluar...

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 *From: * billyfre...@yahoo.com
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 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow minus..



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 *From: * pyriel.pyr...@gmail.com
 *Date: *Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:54:54 +
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 *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow minus..



 Hihi da tgl -15 tuh

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 *From: * billyfre...@yahoo.com
 *Date: *Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:36:17 +
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 *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow minus..



 Bener.. Mendingan nanti dow close di 9800.. Tapi bsk kita ijo

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 *From: * jku...@yahoo.com
 *Date: *Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:31:22 +
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 *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow minus..



 Ya begitulah bro
 Lebih nyaman kalo ngarep merah  dapat ijo, daripada ngarep ijo malah
 dapat merah.
 Hehehe


 Salam,

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 *From: * Herry Panatta p_...@yahoo.co.id
 *Date: *Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:10:19 +
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 *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow minus..



 Ok de bos.. Jadi kita ngarep dow minus 3% besok kita ijo 3% ya...hehehehe


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 *From: * jku...@yahoo.com
 *Date: *Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:03:23 +
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow minus..



 Dow ijo aja kita bisa minus 3%. So tenang aja lah :)



 Salam,

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 *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow minus..



 Minus 0.70% o ... :(


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 *From: * JsxSniper jsxsni...@yahoo.co.id
 *Date: *Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:42:06 +
 *To: *Obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *[ob] Dow minus..



 9.39 am
 9,976 (0.36%)

 -One shoot-

 www.financestockinfo.blogspot.com
   




-- 
Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the
complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact,
everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that
we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only
to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all
knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”.
- Richard Feynman



Re: [ob] Dow minus..

2010-02-08 Terurut Topik pyriel . pyriel
Masa posisi long mulu bill
Kapan ane short nya

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From: billyfre...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:57:31 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Kok hihi?? Xixixixixixiixiii
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From: pyriel.pyr...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:54:54 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Hihi da tgl -15 tuh
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-Original Message-
From: billyfre...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:36:17 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Bener.. Mendingan nanti dow close di 9800.. Tapi bsk kita ijo
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-Original Message-
From: jku...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:31:22 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Ya begitulah bro 
Lebih nyaman kalo ngarep merah  dapat ijo, daripada ngarep ijo malah dapat 
merah.
Hehehe


Salam,

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From: Herry Panatta p_...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:10:19 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Ok de bos.. Jadi kita ngarep dow minus 3% besok kita ijo 3% ya...hehehehe 


[herry]


-Original Message-
From: jku...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:03:23 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Dow ijo aja kita bisa minus 3%. So tenang aja lah :)



Salam,

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From: Herry Panatta p_...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:50:58 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Minus 0.70% o ... :(


[herry]


-Original Message-
From: JsxSniper jsxsni...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:42:06 
To: Obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] Dow minus..

9.39 am
9,976 (0.36%)

-One shoot-

www.financestockinfo.blogspot.com




Re: [ob] Dow minus..

2010-02-08 Terurut Topik billyfrelly
Iya dehh.. Di atur bung.. ;)

Kan kalo dow +.. Kita merah dalem.. Mau short kan? Done!! :p 
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From: pyriel.pyr...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 16:27:01 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Masa posisi long mulu bill
Kapan ane short nya

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-Original Message-
From: billyfre...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:57:31 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Kok hihi?? Xixixixixixiixiii
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From: pyriel.pyr...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:54:54 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Hihi da tgl -15 tuh
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-Original Message-
From: billyfre...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:36:17 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Bener.. Mendingan nanti dow close di 9800.. Tapi bsk kita ijo
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-Original Message-
From: jku...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:31:22 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Ya begitulah bro 
Lebih nyaman kalo ngarep merah  dapat ijo, daripada ngarep ijo malah dapat 
merah.
Hehehe


Salam,

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From: Herry Panatta p_...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:10:19 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Ok de bos.. Jadi kita ngarep dow minus 3% besok kita ijo 3% ya...hehehehe 


[herry]


-Original Message-
From: jku...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:03:23 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Dow ijo aja kita bisa minus 3%. So tenang aja lah :)



Salam,

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-Original Message-
From: Herry Panatta p_...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:50:58 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

Minus 0.70% o ... :(


[herry]


-Original Message-
From: JsxSniper jsxsni...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:42:06 
To: Obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] Dow minus..

9.39 am
9,976 (0.36%)

-One shoot-

www.financestockinfo.blogspot.com




Re: [ob] Dow minus..

2010-02-08 Terurut Topik Bagus Putra Perdana
makin turun makin sip. PTBA closing hari ini aja di 11 % Current FCF Yield,
ITMG di 10.3% FCF yield, SMGR di 7.8% FCF Yield. ini 3 barang yang mo
amrik-eropa termehek2 aja sales en bottomline ga bakal kenapa2. tadi malahan
pas siang FCF Yield nya sempet lebih gede lagi. SUN tenor 5 taon yieldnya
sampe penutupan sore paling bagus cuman 8.5%, tenor 10 taon cuman 9.8%. kalo
besok turun maning ya mending sekalian minta jualin SUN ke bos masukin ke
saham saham FCF generator sekalian...

On 8 February 2010 23:19, caberawit_...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Ini masalah pelor bang...
 Khikikikikikiki...

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 *From: * Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.com
 *Date: *Mon, 8 Feb 2010 23:11:51 +0700
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow minus..



 eits belon tentu.,  putusan hakim untuk praperadilan KPC dikeluarin besok.
 tapi kayanya sih KPC diatas angin. ya merah lagi aja lah, kan besok barengan
 sama lelang SBN kalo merah kan gak usah jadi masang bid FR, jadi beliin
 saham lagi aja... ato sekalian dimerahin idx nya, idx masuk trus lelang jg
 ikut pasang FR 31 TTM 10 taon di yield 10.5-11%. kali kali aja kena. hehe
 (ngarep).

 2010/2/8 caberawit_...@yahoo.com



 Khikikikikikiki...
 Asyik besok bisa keluar...

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 *From: * billyfre...@yahoo.com
 *Date: *Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:57:31 +
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow minus..



 Kok hihi?? Xixixixixixiixiii

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 *From: * pyriel.pyr...@gmail.com
 *Date: *Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:54:54 +
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow minus..



 Hihi da tgl -15 tuh

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 *From: * billyfre...@yahoo.com
 *Date: *Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:36:17 +
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow minus..



 Bener.. Mendingan nanti dow close di 9800.. Tapi bsk kita ijo

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 *From: * jku...@yahoo.com
 *Date: *Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:31:22 +
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 *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow minus..



 Ya begitulah bro
 Lebih nyaman kalo ngarep merah  dapat ijo, daripada ngarep ijo malah
 dapat merah.
 Hehehe


 Salam,

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 *From: * Herry Panatta p_...@yahoo.co.id
 *Date: *Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:10:19 +
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow minus..



 Ok de bos.. Jadi kita ngarep dow minus 3% besok kita ijo 3% ya...hehehehe


 [herry]
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 *From: * jku...@yahoo.com
 *Date: *Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:03:23 +
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow minus..



 Dow ijo aja kita bisa minus 3%. So tenang aja lah :)



 Salam,

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 *From: * Herry Panatta p_...@yahoo.co.id
 *Date: *Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:50:58 +
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 *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow minus..



 Minus 0.70% o ... :(


 [herry]
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 *From: * JsxSniper jsxsni...@yahoo.co.id
 *Date: *Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:42:06 +
 *To: *Obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *[ob] Dow minus..



 9.39 am
 9,976 (0.36%)

 -One shoot-

 www.financestockinfo.blogspot.com




 --
 Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the
 complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact,
 everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that
 we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only
 to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all
 knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”.
 - Richard Feynman
   




-- 
Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the
complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact,
everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that
we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only
to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all
knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”.
- Richard Feynman


Re: [ob] Dow minus..

2010-02-08 Terurut Topik bayu_kusuma_wardhana
Ane mau nanya ni kang tolong jelasin donk kang bagus soal makin turun makin 
sip. PTBA closing hari ini aja di 11 % Current FCF Yield, ITMG di 10.3% FCF 
yield, SMGR di 7.8% FCF Yield itu FCF itu apa ya kang? Td kang bagus jg 
bandingin sm yield SUN, apakah penerapannya sama kayak kita bandingin imbal 
hasil surat utang dengan imbal hasil saham jd yg paling bagus yieldnya yg 
dipilih?  Sori ni kang bagus pertanyaan ane pertanyaan orang yg ga terlalu 
mendalami fundamental analisis, ane cuma taunya ROE,ROI,PER,EPS sama hajar 
kanan klo mang tu harga harus diudak2.. Jangan diketawain ya kang bagus :D


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From: Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 23:28:55 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow minus..

makin turun makin sip. PTBA closing hari ini aja di 11 % Current FCF Yield,
ITMG di 10.3% FCF yield, SMGR di 7.8% FCF Yield. ini 3 barang yang mo
amrik-eropa termehek2 aja sales en bottomline ga bakal kenapa2. tadi malahan
pas siang FCF Yield nya sempet lebih gede lagi. SUN tenor 5 taon yieldnya
sampe penutupan sore paling bagus cuman 8.5%, tenor 10 taon cuman 9.8%. kalo
besok turun maning ya mending sekalian minta jualin SUN ke bos masukin ke
saham saham FCF generator sekalian...

On 8 February 2010 23:19, caberawit_...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Ini masalah pelor bang...
 Khikikikikikiki...

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 *From: * Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.com
 *Date: *Mon, 8 Feb 2010 23:11:51 +0700
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow minus..



 eits belon tentu.,  putusan hakim untuk praperadilan KPC dikeluarin besok.
 tapi kayanya sih KPC diatas angin. ya merah lagi aja lah, kan besok barengan
 sama lelang SBN kalo merah kan gak usah jadi masang bid FR, jadi beliin
 saham lagi aja... ato sekalian dimerahin idx nya, idx masuk trus lelang jg
 ikut pasang FR 31 TTM 10 taon di yield 10.5-11%. kali kali aja kena. hehe
 (ngarep).

 2010/2/8 caberawit_...@yahoo.com



 Khikikikikikiki...
 Asyik besok bisa keluar...

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 *From: * billyfre...@yahoo.com
 *Date: *Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:57:31 +
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow minus..



 Kok hihi?? Xixixixixixiixiii

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 *From: * pyriel.pyr...@gmail.com
 *Date: *Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:54:54 +
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow minus..



 Hihi da tgl -15 tuh

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 *From: * billyfre...@yahoo.com
 *Date: *Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:36:17 +
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow minus..



 Bener.. Mendingan nanti dow close di 9800.. Tapi bsk kita ijo

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 *From: * jku...@yahoo.com
 *Date: *Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:31:22 +
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow minus..



 Ya begitulah bro
 Lebih nyaman kalo ngarep merah  dapat ijo, daripada ngarep ijo malah
 dapat merah.
 Hehehe


 Salam,

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 *From: * Herry Panatta p_...@yahoo.co.id
 *Date: *Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:10:19 +
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow minus..



 Ok de bos.. Jadi kita ngarep dow minus 3% besok kita ijo 3% ya...hehehehe


 [herry]
 --
 *From: * jku...@yahoo.com
 *Date: *Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:03:23 +
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow minus..



 Dow ijo aja kita bisa minus 3%. So tenang aja lah :)



 Salam,

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 *From: * Herry Panatta p_...@yahoo.co.id
 *Date: *Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:50:58 +
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 *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow minus..



 Minus 0.70% o ... :(


 [herry]
 --
 *From: * JsxSniper jsxsni...@yahoo.co.id
 *Date: *Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:42:06 +
 *To: *Obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *[ob] Dow minus..



 9.39 am
 9,976 (0.36%)

 -One shoot-

 www.financestockinfo.blogspot.com




 --
 Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the
 complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact,
 everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that
 we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only
 to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all
 knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”.
 - Richard Feynman
   




-- 
Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always

Re: [ob] Dow minus..

2010-02-08 Terurut Topik Bagus Putra Perdana
simpel lah, owner earning ato yg murni didapat ama pemegang saham = Free
Cash Flow.

FCF ini cari yang sustainable, visible en reliable. begitu dapet perusahaan
yang FCF generating dan reliable.

compare yieldnya sama asset class lain. Govt Bond, Obligasi Korporat etc.


ingat. Saham = lebih beresiko tapi ada growth, Fixed Income = enggak terlalu
beresiko tapi no growth.



saat yield nya setara. dan kondisi ekonomi gak terlalu mengkhawatirkan
secara riil. equity bisa bargain drpd fixed income. apalagi kalo yg FCF
Yield rolling forwardnya positif growth en lebih gede dari current yield.

kalo ekonomi diforecast akan memburuk. orang akan flight to safety dan
membuat ada gap premi resiko antara yield FCF equity dan yield govt bond.

kalo ekonomi gak ada masalah, trus FCF dari perusahaannya reliable dan
sustainable. narrowing gap antara Yield FCF Equity dan asset class lain jadi
peluang untuk tambah porsi di equity. particularly yg current yield dan
forward yieldnya dekat, setara, atau bahkan sudah lebih tinggi dari yield
govt bond ato obligasi korporat grade AA.


Simpel toh? tell u what. BigShots player is playing on this kind of basic
equation. Yield of 1 asset class vs other asset class... kalo yield Govt
bond ga naik dan gak ada flight keluar dari kepemilikan SUN oleh asing. maka
kalo equity drop dan FCF yieldnya naik itu jadi peluang masuk yang sangat
menggiurkan.



2010/2/8 bayu_kusuma_wardh...@yahoo.com



 Ane mau nanya ni kang tolong jelasin donk kang bagus soal makin turun
 makin sip. PTBA closing hari ini aja di 11 % Current FCF Yield, ITMG di
 10.3% FCF yield, SMGR di 7.8% FCF Yield itu FCF itu apa ya kang? Td kang
 bagus jg bandingin sm yield SUN, apakah penerapannya sama kayak kita
 bandingin imbal hasil surat utang dengan imbal hasil saham jd yg paling
 bagus yieldnya yg dipilih? Sori ni kang bagus pertanyaan ane pertanyaan
 orang yg ga terlalu mendalami fundamental analisis, ane cuma taunya
 ROE,ROI,PER,EPS sama hajar kanan klo mang tu harga harus diudak2.. Jangan
 diketawain ya kang bagus :D


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 makin turun makin sip. PTBA closing hari ini aja di 11 % Current FCF Yield,
 ITMG di 10.3% FCF yield, SMGR di 7.8% FCF Yield. ini 3 barang yang mo
 amrik-eropa termehek2 aja sales en bottomline ga bakal kenapa2. tadi malahan
 pas siang FCF Yield nya sempet lebih gede lagi. SUN tenor 5 taon yieldnya
 sampe penutupan sore paling bagus cuman 8.5%, tenor 10 taon cuman 9.8%. kalo
 besok turun maning ya mending sekalian minta jualin SUN ke bos masukin ke
 saham saham FCF generator sekalian...

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 Ini masalah pelor bang...
 Khikikikikikiki...

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 eits belon tentu.,  putusan hakim untuk praperadilan KPC dikeluarin besok.
 tapi kayanya sih KPC diatas angin. ya merah lagi aja lah, kan besok barengan
 sama lelang SBN kalo merah kan gak usah jadi masang bid FR, jadi beliin
 saham lagi aja... ato sekalian dimerahin idx nya, idx masuk trus lelang jg
 ikut pasang FR 31 TTM 10 taon di yield 10.5-11%. kali kali aja kena. hehe
 (ngarep).

 2010/2/8 caberawit_...@yahoo.com



 Khikikikikikiki...
 Asyik besok bisa keluar...

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 Kok hihi?? Xixixixixixiixiii

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 Hihi da tgl -15 tuh

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 Bener.. Mendingan nanti dow close di 9800.. Tapi bsk kita ijo

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 Ya begitulah bro
 Lebih nyaman kalo ngarep merah  dapat ijo, daripada ngarep ijo malah
 dapat merah.
 Hehehe


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Re: [ob] Dow +

2010-02-08 Terurut Topik Febry Hariyannugraha
Sayang seribu sayang saudara-saudara ..
Sekilas pandangan mata dari Wall Street .. DOW Jones ditutup -1% lagi malem
ini ...
Apakah BEI akan contrarian nanti pagi ..
Kita saksikan saja saudara-saudara ..


Re: [ob] Dow +

2010-02-08 Terurut Topik kokolato
Sante aja bos..dow boleh minus, tapi harga commodity positif tuh..IDX kan 
isinya komoditi..jadi ada peluang tutup positif lah hari ini..moga aja..

Sell dow buy ihsg!!!
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From: Febry Hariyannugraha febry.hariyannugr...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:05:31 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow +

Sayang seribu sayang saudara-saudara ..
Sekilas pandangan mata dari Wall Street .. DOW Jones ditutup -1% lagi malem
ini ...
Apakah BEI akan contrarian nanti pagi ..
Kita saksikan saja saudara-saudara ..



Re: [ob] Dow +

2010-02-08 Terurut Topik -Candra Wu
Tadi oil sempat sentuh terendah sebelum ribon.

-Original Message-
From: kokol...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 21:15:55 
To: Milis OBobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow +

Sante aja bos..dow boleh minus, tapi harga commodity positif tuh..IDX kan 
isinya komoditi..jadi ada peluang tutup positif lah hari ini..moga aja..

Sell dow buy ihsg!!!
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From: Febry Hariyannugraha febry.hariyannugr...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:05:31 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow +

Sayang seribu sayang saudara-saudara ..
Sekilas pandangan mata dari Wall Street .. DOW Jones ditutup -1% lagi malem
ini ...
Apakah BEI akan contrarian nanti pagi ..
Kita saksikan saja saudara-saudara ..



Re: [ob] Dow +

2010-02-08 Terurut Topik victor_sperandeo
jangan contrarian deh, soalnya baru ember kecil yg keluar. lagipula n225 open 
minus tuh.




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 Sayang seribu sayang saudara-saudara ..
 Sekilas pandangan mata dari Wall Street .. DOW Jones ditutup -1% lagi malem
 ini ...
 Apakah BEI akan contrarian nanti pagi ..
 Kita saksikan saja saudara-saudara ..





Re: [ob] DOW, IHSG, and Candlestick

2010-02-07 Terurut Topik Rei
Wah sptnya bu Katrin tahu sesuatu yg kita semua tidak nih...

2010/2/7 katrin kusu...@gmail.com




 Kalau turun lagi you might have to consider changing that nickname :d

 Tapi bei3000 is not about would it be, but when's it going to be...

 This year for sure lah :d

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 *Date: *Sun, 7 Feb 2010 13:45:33 +
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] DOW, IHSG, and Candlestick



 Boss, kalau IHSG Senin Turun lagi...
 Wassalam..:P

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 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com;
 'Metastock Id Groups'metastock...@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *[ob] DOW, IHSG, and Candlestick



  meskipun tdk persis sama, tapi ada kemiripan pola candle DOW kemarin dgn
 bentuk candle IHSG pada tgl 29/10/2009



 [image: jsc.png][image: dow.png]





 IHSG bergerak naik setelah koreksi tgl 29/10/2009 .



 [image: jsc2.png]



 IHSG menguji support MA yg relative belum pernah ditembus (close below)
 sejak memulai uptrend bulan March 2009



 [image: jsc.png]





 My View :



 DOW :  No Question we have a very STRONG short term BOTTOM reversal
 signal…., indicators, Trend  SAR analysis memperkuat signal reversal dari
 Candle…, tapi statusnya masih “potensi”, masih diperlukan konfirmasi lebih
 lanjut dgn melihat satu dua bar berikutnya.



 IHSG :  sampai dgn bar terakhir, masih belum terlihat adanya signal
 reversal. Namun kejatuhan hari jumat kemarin, polanya mirip-mirip dgn pola
 koreksi sebelum-sebelumnya, dimana harga MENTAL pada support MA.  So we have
 to wait apakah besok bisa mental balik seperti sebelum-sebelumnya atau
 tidak, jika ya, we can expect another up move to TEST swing Hi terdekat….





 JT
















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Re: [ob] Dow fut ijo

2010-02-07 Terurut Topik boyz®
ijo nya plus brp?
trus angka dow fut-nya brp?
bandingin dgn penutupan DJIA  jumat kemarin.

Salam,



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 Ijo tu.smoga ntar mlm ijo





 

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Re: [ob] Dow fut ijo

2010-02-07 Terurut Topik Rei
+13 pak...emang pengaruh ya? [?]

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 Ijo brp poin pak?

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Re: [ob] Dow fut ijo

2010-02-07 Terurut Topik ANDIK MUSTIKA
13 poin di 9954

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To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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Ijo brp poin pak?
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comSubject: [ob] Dow fut ijo

 




  
  
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Re: [ob] Dow fut ijo

2010-02-07 Terurut Topik dario kurniawan
sabardogfut yg confirm 1-2 jam sebelum dow openDarioAmran--- Pada Sen, 8/2/10, Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com menulis:
Dari: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.comJudul: Re: [ob] Dow fut ijoKepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comTanggal: Senin, 8 Februari, 2010, 11:40 AM
 

+13 pak...emang pengaruh ya?
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Ijo brp poin pak?
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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 20:36:25 -0800 (PST)
To: Obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [ob] Dow fut ijo

 

Ijo tu.smoga ntar mlm ijo

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Re: [ob] Dow fut ijo

2010-02-07 Terurut Topik datasahamku
bukanya + 100 pak ?

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 +13 pak...emang pengaruh ya? [?]
 
 On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:39 AM, hexam...@... wrote:
 
 
 
  Ijo brp poin pak?
 
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Re: [ob] Dow fut ijo

2010-02-07 Terurut Topik boyz®
penutupan DJIA jumat kemarin brp yah?  10.012 ya.?
Kalo dari 10.012 ke 9.954 bukannya kudunya merah? :)

Salam,



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  13 poin di 9954

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 Ijo brp poin pak?

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 Ijo tu.smoga ntar mlm ijo




 



Re: [ob] Dow fut ijo

2010-02-07 Terurut Topik tirta8588
di 9947, bukanya nanti -21


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 penutupan DJIA jumat kemarin brp yah?  10.012 ya.?
 Kalo dari 10.012 ke 9.954 bukannya kudunya merah? :)
 
 Salam,
 
 
 
 On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:43 AM, ANDIK MUSTIKA ahmust...@... wrote:
 
 
 
   13 poin di 9954
 
  --- On *Sun, 2/7/10, hexam...@... hexam...@...* wrote:
 
 
  From: hexam...@... hexam...@...
  Subject: Re: [ob] Dow fut ijo
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 8:39 PM
 
 
 
 
  Ijo brp poin pak?
 
  Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung
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  *To: *Obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  *Subject: *[ob] Dow fut ijo
 
 
 
  Ijo tu.smoga ntar mlm ijo
 
 
 
 
  
 





Re: [ob] Dow fut ijo

2010-02-07 Terurut Topik hexamail
Kalo tebel, lebih tenang pak.. Soalnya klo tipis, kmungkinan brtahan kcil.. 
Hehe..


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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 11:40:18 
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Subject: Re: [ob] Dow fut ijo

+13 pak...emang pengaruh ya? [?]

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Re: [ob] DOW for 05-02-2010.

2010-02-05 Terurut Topik tommy_yap99
Mantap nih suhu prediksinya
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From: kobayashi mitsukuni ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 21:12:23 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Cc: seputar IDX yahoo.group.seputar-...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] DOW for 05-02-2010.

Hmmm...malam ini pasti Banyak yg memperhatikan DOW,..! 
yg sdh copet2 barang tadi sore yg sdh dianggap murah... 
pasti mengharapkan DOW I J O 
dan yg tadi sore Buang barang..juga pasti mengharapkan DOW MERAH 
hahahhahaha ini baru seru 
yup..nanti kita sama perhatikan DOW. 
SALAM.
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bagaimna kalau sebelum DOW buka pada kasih KOMEN DOW akan merah atau IJO nanti 
malam...
dan dimulai saat ini sampai sebelum DOW open...
jadi ADIL...???
SEKEDAR MENGISI WAKTU utk yg Hobby dan juga yg lagi sempat.
hahhaahha...
SETUJUKAH?... 
---
kemaren Dow hampir dikatakan 99% Candle adalah RED marubozu.
tanda Kuat bearishnya,dan candle sdh menerobos harga terendah 2~3 hr 
sebelumnya(10044,7)
kemaren close di 10002,2.(-2,6%)
prediksi sy utk hari ini akan Turun lagi,dgn Support fibo di-127% = 9875,17.
Atau kalau dilihat dari  Candle 
S1 =   9961.52. 
S2=    9875,17
S3=    9802,14.
Disclamer on.
-
dan kalau situasi Global masih gawat,
kemungkinan senn masih bisa berlanjut penurunannya ke 161% Fibo=9643,29.
atau kl dari candle 9664,89 ~9649,78.
nah yg ini harus dilihat reaksi DOW malam ini...
Disclaimer on.
Terlampir Chart DOW tgl 04-02-2010.
Salam.

Maaf ; kalau ada yg salah prediksi ataupun salah tulis.
  Sekedar mengisi waktu aja..
  dan harap dimaklumi,sy masih tahap belajar.
  Terima kasih.



  Apakah demonstrasi  turun ke jalan itu hal yang wajar? Temukan 
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Re: [ob] DOW - Intraday

2010-02-05 Terurut Topik Andre Andre
rusak dah



From: hidayat.ru...@yahoo.com hidayat.ru...@yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, February 6, 2010 1:57:08 AM
Subject: Re: [ob] DOW - Intraday

   
Serem.dow minus 143...  Prof ... yg turun gunung bukan tuyul lagi nich... 
Tapi mbahnya tuyul. Ini mata kok nggak mau tidur yaa apa pengaruh biji 
mengkeret... . Ampun dach... 
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From:  Win edwin...@gmail. com 
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 00:05:40 +0700
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ob] DOW - Intraday
  
OIL suddenly jeblok bos...



2010/2/5 FANS OF JT ediesiswoyoa@ yahoo.com

ALHAMDULILAH. . MARI KITA TIDUR..

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From: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com
Subject: [ob] DOW - Intraday
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Friday, February 5, 2010, 10:52 PM



  
Intraday 15 menit mulai GC.., trend strength index mulai nanjak…, rasanya 
tutup bisa ijo lah…..
 
 
 

Dailynya juga cakep tuw…., belom jadi sih, tetep kudu tunggu closing…… 
 
 
 

  


 


  

Re: [ob] DOW - Intraday

2010-02-05 Terurut Topik Hexa Andreas
berantakan ini mah judulnya...
ancuuur

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From: Andre Andre andre...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [ob] DOW - Intraday
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, February 6, 2010, 1:58 AM


  





rusak dah



From: hidayat.rusdi@ yahoo.com hidayat.rusdi@ yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sat, February 6, 2010 1:57:08 AM
Subject: Re: [ob] DOW - Intraday

  

Serem.dow minus 143... Prof ... yg turun gunung bukan tuyul lagi nich... 
Tapi mbahnya tuyul. Ini mata kok nggak mau tidur yaa apa pengaruh biji 
mengkeret... . Ampun dach 
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From: Win edwin...@gmail. com 
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 00:05:40 +0700
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ob] DOW - Intraday

  

OIL suddenly jeblok bos...



2010/2/5 FANS OF JT ediesiswoyoa@ yahoo.com





ALHAMDULILAH. . MARI KITA TIDUR..

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From: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com
Subject: [ob] DOW - Intraday
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Friday, February 5, 2010, 10:52 PM



  



Intraday 15 menit mulai GC.., trend strength index mulai nanjak…, rasanya tutup 
bisa ijo lah…..
 

 
  
Dailynya juga cakep tuw…., belom jadi sih, tetep kudu tunggu closing…… 
  
 
  
 















  

RE: [ob] DOW - Intraday

2010-02-05 Terurut Topik JT
Wow…, rupanya semalem banyak yg nonton DOW ya…, hehehe…., dibilangin mending 
nonton pilem aje…..hehe

 

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Behalf Of Hexa Andreas
Sent: 06 Februari 2010 2:09
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] DOW - Intraday

 

 


berantakan ini mah judulnya...

ancuuur

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From: Andre Andre andre...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [ob] DOW - Intraday
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, February 6, 2010, 1:58 AM

  

rusak dah


  _  


From: hidayat.rusdi@ yahoo.com hidayat.rusdi@ yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sat, February 6, 2010 1:57:08 AM
Subject: Re: [ob] DOW - Intraday

  

Serem.dow minus 143... Prof ... yg turun gunung bukan tuyul lagi nich... 
Tapi mbahnya tuyul. Ini mata kok nggak mau tidur yaa apa pengaruh biji 
mengkeret... . Ampun dach 

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From: Win edwin...@gmail. com 

Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 00:05:40 +0700

To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: [ob] DOW - Intraday

 

  

OIL suddenly jeblok bos...

 

2010/2/5 FANS OF JT ediesiswoyoa@ yahoo.com 
http://us.mc516.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ediesiswo...@yahoo.com 


ALHAMDULILAH. . MARI KITA TIDUR..

--- On Fri, 2/5/10, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com 
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From: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com 
http://us.mc516.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jsxtra...@yahoo.com 
Subject: [ob] DOW - Intraday
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
http://us.mc516.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com , 
jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com 
http://us.mc516.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Friday, February 5, 2010, 10:52 PM 

 

  

Intraday 15 menit mulai GC.., trend strength index mulai nanjak…, rasanya tutup 
bisa ijo lah…..

 

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Dailynya juga cakep tuw…., belom jadi sih, tetep kudu tunggu closing…… 

  

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Re: [ob] Dow fut ijo

2010-02-04 Terurut Topik Win
ijo buat dimerahin:P


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Re: [ob] DOW IJO

2010-02-01 Terurut Topik JsxSniper
Ssstttsss... Biarin aja..

-One shoot-

www.financestockinfo.blogspot.com

-Original Message-
From: FANS OF JT ediesiswo...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 06:38:44 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] DOW IJO


 
DOW buakannya OK nih .. plus 74 ... Besuk copetan BUMI dongak nih..Td ikutan 
komando Prof JT..


  


Re: [ob] DOW IJO

2010-02-01 Terurut Topik ivan
Prof blum komando lo yaa... Hehehe...
Ati2 ntar mendahului aba2 dipentungin lg kayak DEWA! Ampoen... Kabur whusss 
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From: FANS OF JT ediesiswo...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 06:38:44 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] DOW IJO


 
DOW buakannya OK nih .. plus 74 ... Besuk copetan BUMI dongak nih..Td ikutan 
komando Prof JT..


  


Re: [ob] DOW IJO

2010-02-01 Terurut Topik FANS OF JT
UPSSS... SORRY ..SSTTT

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From: JsxSniper jsxsni...@yahoo.co.id
Subject: Re: [ob] DOW IJO
To: Obrolan bandar obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 10:05 PM


  



Ssstttsss. .. Biarin aja..

-One shoot-

www.financestockinf o.blogspot. com


From: FANS OF JT ediesiswoyoa@ yahoo.com 
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 06:38:44 -0800 (PST)
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [ob] DOW IJO

  







 
DOW buakannya OK nih .. plus 74 ... Besuk copetan BUMI dongak nih..Td ikutan 
komando Prof JT..








  

Re: [ob] DOW IJO

2010-02-01 Terurut Topik FANS OF JT
Ya sih.. konfirmasinya besuk.. he he he.. nyolong start

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From: ivan ipan...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [ob] DOW IJO
To: Obrolan bandar obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 10:12 PM


  



Prof blum komando lo yaa... Hehehe...
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From: FANS OF JT ediesiswoyoa@ yahoo.com 
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 06:38:44 -0800 (PST)
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [ob] DOW IJO

  







 
DOW buakannya OK nih .. plus 74 ... Besuk copetan BUMI dongak nih..Td ikutan 
komando Prof JT..








  

Re: [ob] DOW IJO

2010-02-01 Terurut Topik dario kurniawan
B7 mana mau ikutan main kalo LQ45 jalannot now...tugas B7 biar wave-nya 
mbah ga failed


DarioAmran

--- Pada Sen, 1/2/10, FANS OF JT ediesiswo...@yahoo.com menulis:

Dari: FANS OF JT ediesiswo...@yahoo.com
Judul: Re: [ob] DOW IJO
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Senin, 1 Februari, 2010, 10:12 PM







 



  



  
  
  Ya sih.. konfirmasinya besuk.. he he he.. nyolong start

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From: ivan ipan...@yahoo. com
Subject: Re: [ob] DOW IJO
To: Obrolan bandar obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 10:12 PM


  

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From: FANS OF JT ediesiswoyoa@ yahoo.com 
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 06:38:44 -0800 (PST)
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [ob] DOW IJO

  







 
DOW buakannya OK nih .. plus 74 ... Besuk copetan BUMI dongak nih..Td ikutan 
komando Prof JT..



  


 





 



  






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RE: [JT] Re: [ob] Dow Update

2010-01-31 Terurut Topik Tasrul
Seperti kita ketahui moving averages adalah trend indicator, jadi memang
diharapkan buy and hold harus lebih besar dibanding trading. Nah jika
indikator yg oscillator diharapkan buy and hold  trading. Nah jika kita
cek saat ini moving averages dimana buy and hold lebih besar dan
oscillator hasil trading juga lebih besar artinya koreksi ini masih
wajar, dlam arti kata koreksi dalam trend yang naik.

 



From: jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Febry Hariyannugraha
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 10:50 AM
To: jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [JT] Re: [ob] Dow Update

 

  

Pak Tasrul,

Mau tanya technical dikit nih .. :)
Di email Pak Tasrul mengatakan hasil optimisasi Buy and Hold Strategy 
Trading .. yang berarti indeks masih dalam posisi uptrend ..
Terus terang saya nggak ngerti Pak Tasrul .. bisa diperjelas ? 
Terima kasih sebelumnya .. 

Salam,
Febry





Re: [ob] dow

2010-01-29 Terurut Topik hexamail
Ga bosen apa si Dow merah mulu?
Sebel...


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From: swan silo swan_gro...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 06:20:45 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; my_...@yahoogroups.com; 
sa...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] dow

dow merah lagiii.eropa juga...gimana nihh ihsg kita?..



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RE: [ob] dow

2010-01-29 Terurut Topik JoLind
Buat  doble bottom at hourly chart. Kalo udah bosan, ijo lah. So senin dow
ijo.

 

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On Behalf Of hexam...@yahoo.com
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To: swan silo; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; my_...@yahoogroups.com;
sa...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] dow

 

  

Ga bosen apa si Dow merah mulu?
Sebel...

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From: swan silo swan_gro...@yahoo.com 

Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 06:20:45 +0800 (SGT)

To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; my_...@yahoogroups.com;
sa...@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [ob] dow

 

  

dow merah lagiii.eropa juga...gimana nihh ihsg
kita?..

 

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Re: [ob] dow

2010-01-29 Terurut Topik tommy_yap99
Soalnya Blum dalam Dow nya , tehnik isep darah sedikit2 supaya retial percaya 
ini cuma kolexsi sehat . . .
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-Original Message-
From: JoLind jems...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 08:27:01 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ob] dow

Buat  doble bottom at hourly chart. Kalo udah bosan, ijo lah. So senin dow
ijo.

 

Regards,

JoLind

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Subject: Re: [ob] dow

 

  

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To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; my_...@yahoogroups.com;
sa...@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [ob] dow

 

  

dow merah lagiii.eropa juga...gimana nihh ihsg
kita?..

 

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Re: [ob] Dow merah ..................................................

2010-01-28 Terurut Topik Febry Hariyannugraha
NEW YORK (AP) -- Stocks slipped in early trading Thursday as upbeat earnings
failed to offset uncertainty still swirling around government involvement in
the market and disappointing jobless and durable goods orders reports.

Overseas markets rose on hopes the U.S. economy will continue to strengthen.

Politics, not the economy, had been dictating trading over the past week.
Concerns about President Barack Obama's plan to overhaul banking regulation
and restrict trading at large financial institutions spooked the market. The
possibility Federal Reserve Board chairman Ben Bernanke wouldn't be
confirmed for a second term had investors on edge, though those worries have
subsided. Stocks have declined five of the past eight days.

During his State of the Union address Wednesday night, Obama avoided talking
about the banking overhaul plan. Uncertainty over details of how that plan
might be enacted and how strong trading restrictions would be had helped
push the market to its worst three-day stretch since stocks bottomed last
March.

Focus on the economy is creeping back to the forefront. The Fed said
Wednesday afternoon it would keep interest rates at historic lows and the
economy was showing signs of improvement. That helped stocks rally late in
the day.

Investors welcomed a new round of earnings Thursday that showed signs of a
strengthening economy. However, the Labor Department said weekly jobless
claims fell by less than expected last week and the Commerce Department
reported durable goods orders didn't rise as fast as anticipated last month,
providing a reminder the economic recovery is likely to be slow.

In early morning trading, the Dow Jones industrial average fell 42.77, or
0.4 percent, to 10,193.39. The Standard  Poor's 500 index fell 2.58, or 0.2
percent, to 1,094.92, while the Nasdaq composite index fell 16.28, or 0.7
percent, to 2,205.13.

Ford Motor Co. said it recorded a profit in 2009 -- its first annual profit
in four years. The auto maker, which avoided bankruptcy and government
bailout money, said it expects to again be profitable in 2010.

Consumer products makers Colgate-Palmolive and Procter  Gamble Co. both
said quarterly sales improved as consumers continue to spend on necessary
goods. The two reports topped analysts' expectations.

Pharmaceutical company Eli Lilly  Co. recorded a profit during the fourth
quarter as sales of its two top-selling drugs rose sharply.

ATT's profit was in line with expectations, though the telecommunications
company added a near-record 2.7 million wireless customers.

New requests for unemployment benefits fell modestly, dropping to 470,000
last week. Economists polled by Thomson Reuters had been expecting a bigger
drop to 450,000 new unemployment filings.

Orders to U.S. factories for big-ticket manufactured goods rose less than
expected in December, increasing just 0.3 percent. Economists had been
expecting a 2 percent increase in orders.

For all of 2009, durable goods orders -- items expected to last at least
three years -- tumbled 20.2 percent. It was the largest drop on records that
go back to 1992


Re: [ob] Dow merah ..................................................

2010-01-28 Terurut Topik ivan
Turunnya terlalu dipaksakan!!! Bandar amrik ternyata suka contrarian juga... 
Niru bandar indo neh... ‎​(•̯͡.•̯͡ªªKªªKªª  =D 
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-Original Message-
From: Febry Hariyannugraha febry.hariyannugr...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:14:01 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow merah ..

NEW YORK (AP) -- Stocks slipped in early trading Thursday as upbeat earnings
failed to offset uncertainty still swirling around government involvement in
the market and disappointing jobless and durable goods orders reports.

Overseas markets rose on hopes the U.S. economy will continue to strengthen.

Politics, not the economy, had been dictating trading over the past week.
Concerns about President Barack Obama's plan to overhaul banking regulation
and restrict trading at large financial institutions spooked the market. The
possibility Federal Reserve Board chairman Ben Bernanke wouldn't be
confirmed for a second term had investors on edge, though those worries have
subsided. Stocks have declined five of the past eight days.

During his State of the Union address Wednesday night, Obama avoided talking
about the banking overhaul plan. Uncertainty over details of how that plan
might be enacted and how strong trading restrictions would be had helped
push the market to its worst three-day stretch since stocks bottomed last
March.

Focus on the economy is creeping back to the forefront. The Fed said
Wednesday afternoon it would keep interest rates at historic lows and the
economy was showing signs of improvement. That helped stocks rally late in
the day.

Investors welcomed a new round of earnings Thursday that showed signs of a
strengthening economy. However, the Labor Department said weekly jobless
claims fell by less than expected last week and the Commerce Department
reported durable goods orders didn't rise as fast as anticipated last month,
providing a reminder the economic recovery is likely to be slow.

In early morning trading, the Dow Jones industrial average fell 42.77, or
0.4 percent, to 10,193.39. The Standard  Poor's 500 index fell 2.58, or 0.2
percent, to 1,094.92, while the Nasdaq composite index fell 16.28, or 0.7
percent, to 2,205.13.

Ford Motor Co. said it recorded a profit in 2009 -- its first annual profit
in four years. The auto maker, which avoided bankruptcy and government
bailout money, said it expects to again be profitable in 2010.

Consumer products makers Colgate-Palmolive and Procter  Gamble Co. both
said quarterly sales improved as consumers continue to spend on necessary
goods. The two reports topped analysts' expectations.

Pharmaceutical company Eli Lilly  Co. recorded a profit during the fourth
quarter as sales of its two top-selling drugs rose sharply.

ATT's profit was in line with expectations, though the telecommunications
company added a near-record 2.7 million wireless customers.

New requests for unemployment benefits fell modestly, dropping to 470,000
last week. Economists polled by Thomson Reuters had been expecting a bigger
drop to 450,000 new unemployment filings.

Orders to U.S. factories for big-ticket manufactured goods rose less than
expected in December, increasing just 0.3 percent. Economists had been
expecting a 2 percent increase in orders.

For all of 2009, durable goods orders -- items expected to last at least
three years -- tumbled 20.2 percent. It was the largest drop on records that
go back to 1992



Re: [ob] Dow merah ..................................................

2010-01-28 Terurut Topik Tommy Yu
Semoga close jadi ijo

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Re: [ob] Dow merah ..................................................

2010-01-28 Terurut Topik tommy_yap99
Yg beli tadi n blum jual , KEGOCEK dong 

Hahahahahaha
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-Original Message-
From: Tommy Yu tradersej...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 22:21:52 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow merah ..

Semoga close jadi ijo

On 1/28/10, Harry Wijaya harrywijay...@yahoo.com wrote:







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Re: [ob] Dow merah ..................................................

2010-01-28 Terurut Topik Febry Hariyannugraha
Seperti biasa .. DOW merah .. BEI Ijo .. (ngarep.com hehehehe )


Re: [ob] Dow merah ..................................................

2010-01-28 Terurut Topik nyaham . dong
Kalo kegocek, gue ikut engkong SB aja dah:)
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From: tommy_ya...@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:23:52 
To: Obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow merah ..

Yg beli tadi n blum jual , KEGOCEK dong 

Hahahahahaha
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-Original Message-
From: Tommy Yu tradersej...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 22:21:52 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow merah ..

Semoga close jadi ijo

On 1/28/10, Harry Wijaya harrywijay...@yahoo.com wrote:







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Re: [ob] Dow merah .ANCUR LG

2010-01-28 Terurut Topik FANS OF JT
Wah.. trend nya turun.. ijo2 nya sehari dong kecil2

--- On Thu, 1/28/10, Tommy Yu tradersej...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Tommy Yu tradersej...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow merah ..
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 28, 2010, 10:21 PM


  



Semoga close jadi ijo

On 1/28/10, Harry Wijaya harrywijaya81@ yahoo.com wrote:






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Re: [ob] Dow merah ..................................................

2010-01-28 Terurut Topik Febry Hariyannugraha
Ane cari temen sependeritaan aja dah ..
Ada nyangkut di BUMI ?
Ane di 27XX  :(


Re: [ob] Dow merah ..................................................

2010-01-28 Terurut Topik nyaham . dong
Aye temenin deh, :) 

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From: Febry Hariyannugraha febry.hariyannugr...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:32:59 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow merah ..

Ane cari temen sependeritaan aja dah ..
Ada nyangkut di BUMI ?
Ane di 27XX  :(



Re: [ob] Dow merah ..................................................

2010-01-28 Terurut Topik SbudianaYCS

Ada di 72..
Mo dilkasih Reward ?
Hehehe.





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-Original Message-
From: Febry Hariyannugraha febry.hariyannugr...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:32:59 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow merah ..

Ane cari temen sependeritaan aja dah ..
Ada nyangkut di BUMI ?
Ane di 27XX  :(



Re: [ob] Dow merah..

2010-01-28 Terurut Topik -Saham.Indonesia-
Yaiiy.. Baru liat Dow,ternyata dalem jg ye.. retail BEI digocek lg.. Advise nya 
dong senior.. 

Chart nya pak Tasrul harusnya GC hari ini tuh Dow nya.. Selip lg kek nya..


Regards,

-Welcome 2010-

-Original Message-
From: Febry Hariyannugraha febry.hariyannugr...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:32:59 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Dow merah ..

Ane cari temen sependeritaan aja dah ..
Ada nyangkut di BUMI ?
Ane di 27XX  :(



Re: [ob] Dow merah..

2010-01-28 Terurut Topik jkunci
Mudah2an 10100 cukup kuat menahan kejatuhan. Perlu energi lebih untuk menjebol 
support 10100. :)


Salam,

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, -Saham.Indonesia- sahami...@... 
wrote:

 Yaiiy.. Baru liat Dow,ternyata dalem jg ye.. retail BEI digocek lg.. Advise 
 nya dong senior.. 
 
 Chart nya pak Tasrul harusnya GC hari ini tuh Dow nya.. Selip lg kek nya..
 
 
 Regards,
 
 -Welcome 2010-
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Febry Hariyannugraha febry.hariyannugr...@...
 Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:32:59 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [ob] Dow merah ..
 
 Ane cari temen sependeritaan aja dah ..
 Ada nyangkut di BUMI ?
 Ane di 27XX  :(





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