Re: [oi-dev] Resignation as OI Lead

2012-08-31 Thread Sašo Kiselkov
On 08/31/2012 11:14 AM, Volker A. Brandt wrote: garrett.dam...@dey-sys.com writes: So then, I have just a single question: What is the compelling reason for doing all this effort? Why not just load up Ubuntu on your desktop (or buy a Mac, or even run *cough* Windows) and run illumos bits in

Re: [oi-dev] Resignation as OI Lead

2012-08-31 Thread Piotr Jasiukajtis
Guys, Please, This is a developer mailing list. If you want to help OpenIndiana please go to the issue tracker :) at https://www.illumos.org/projects/openindiana/issues Thanks, -- Piotr Jasiukajtis ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org

Re: [oi-dev] Resignation as OI Lead

2012-08-31 Thread Jean-Pierre André
Milan Jurik wrote: Hi, [...] This crap I heard for years inside Sun. Rumor say half of laptops used by Sun employees (and paid by Sun) were Macs in last year. And the most of core developers were not using Solaris on their laptops. With very same excuse. Now the question - why should new

Re: [oi-dev] Resignation as OI Lead

2012-08-31 Thread Jean-Pierre André
Hi Yuri, Yuri Pankov wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:28:46 +0200, Jean-Pierre André wrote: Milan Jurik wrote: Hi, [...] This crap I heard for years inside Sun. Rumor say half of laptops used by Sun employees (and paid by Sun) were Macs in last year. And the most of core developers were not

Re: [oi-dev] Resignation as OI Lead

2012-08-31 Thread Jim Klimov
2012-08-31 19:43, Bob Friesenhahn пишет: On Thu, 30 Aug 2012, garrett.dam...@dey-sys.com wrote: So then, I have just a single question: What is the compelling reason for doing all this effort? Why not just load up Ubuntu on your desktop (or buy a Mac, or even run *cough* Windows) and run

Re: [oi-dev] Resignation as OI Lead

2012-08-31 Thread Damian Wojslaw
Am 2012-08-31 18:02, schrieb Jim Klimov: That's what I said, though you phrased it better - thanks ;) Now, there is a problem with those devices that OI does not see and can't pass through - such as USB3 ports, or use (such as my troubles with Wifi and SATA, and I'm not certain about sound

Re: [oi-dev] Resignation as OI Lead

2012-08-31 Thread Milan Jurik
Hi Bob, Bob Friesenhahn píše v pá 31. 08. 2012 v 10:43 -0500: Current OpenIndiana is satisfactory for most things that I need and it only lacks ready-made packages for Firefox, Thunderbird, OpenOffice, and the available Flash plugin. If detractors do not get in the way, forward

Re: [oi-dev] Resignation as OI Lead

2012-08-31 Thread Andrew M. Hettinger
Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us wrote on 08/31/2012 10:43:14 AM: On Thu, 30 Aug 2012, garrett.dam...@dey-sys.com wrote: So then, I have just a single question: What is the compelling reason for doing all this effort? Why not just load up Ubuntu on your desktop (or buy a

Re: [oi-dev] Resignation as OI Lead

2012-08-31 Thread ken mays
The Apache-OpenOffice SPARC build is at 3.4.1: http://adfinis-sygroup.ch/aoo-solaris-sparc https://adfinis-sygroup.ch/file-exchange-public/tag-AOO341/README.html https://adfinis-sygroup.ch/file-exchange-public/tag-AOO341/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.1_Solaris_Sparc_install-arc_en-US.tar.gz ~

Re: [oi-dev] Drivers USB 3 [Was: Resignation as OI Lead]

2012-08-31 Thread Jim Klimov
Unfortunately, I don't believe that getting good USB3 type performance is possible with our current USB stack. Having that said, is it possible to bring in a quick solution - support USB3 ports at whatever the performance hits our architecture gives7 I hope that would be enough for a mouse

Re: [oi-dev] Drivers USB 3 [Was: Resignation as OI Lead]

2012-08-31 Thread garrett . damore
USB3 at least is not solely desktop relevant. I have a backburnered plan to work on this. Unfortunately, I don't believe that getting good USB3 type performance is possible with our current USB stack. (Furthermore, our USB stack is a convoluted mess -- owing largely to the way it was

[oi-dev] Desktop Illumos Still Matters

2012-08-31 Thread Nick Zivkovic
I was just reading through the oi-dev archives (about the resignation of the OI lead) where a former Sun engineer, claimed that the efforts made by sun to port OpenSolaris to the desktop/laptop platforms (by adding wifi support, by making a new audio system, etc), only hurt Sun in the long run,