Re: [oi-dev] VNIC creation failure

2012-09-06 Thread Ewald Ertl
Hi, On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 5:14 AM, Nick Zivkovic zivkovic.n...@gmail.comwrote: Is it possible to get zones on an etherstub to communicate with the global zone? Yes, it's possible and I have it running since some time now. I have a WinXP running in a virtualbox, which has assigned a vnic

Re: [oi-dev] Desktop Illumos Still Matters

2012-09-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
Andrew M. Hettinger ahettin...@prominic.net wrote: That said, I think what Nick was talking about was not a build failure, but common issues IPS itself can have. I've seen a few (rare) times where it will just spit out a call-stack. Haveing a goto page of potental problems and

Re: [oi-dev] is there a vector for donating to OI?

2012-09-06 Thread Deirdre Straughan
Any further thoughts on this, anyone? On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Garrett D'Amore garrett.dam...@dey-sys.comwrote: Originally Alasdair indicated that he wanted OI to be part of the illumos foundation, so this approach of earmarking the donation makes sense. Note that in the future I hope

Re: [oi-dev] is there a vector for donating to OI?

2012-09-06 Thread Ken Gunderson
At Thu, 6 Sep 2012 11:54:31 -0700, Deirdre Straughan wrote: Any further thoughts on this, anyone? [...] Since you asked While OI and Illumos should retain and nurture a collaborative relationship, I also think OI should foster and maintain it's own independence, as imho Illumos and

Re: [oi-dev] is there a vector for donating to OI?

2012-09-06 Thread magnus
On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 13:27:02 -0600, Ken Gunderson kgund...@teamcool.net wrote: While OI and Illumos should retain and nurture a collaborative relationship, I also think OI should foster and maintain it's own independence, as imho Illumos and Nexenta have not always acted in OI's best

Re: [oi-dev] Desktop Illumos Still Matters

2012-09-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
Nick Zivkovic zivkovic.n...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 4:35 AM, Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: Andrew M. Hettinger ahettin...@prominic.net wrote: That said, I think what Nick was talking about was not a build failure, but common issues IPS itself

Re: [oi-dev] is there a vector for donating to OI?

2012-09-06 Thread Ken Gunderson
At Thu, 06 Sep 2012 15:31:21 -0400, mag...@yonderway.com wrote: On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 13:27:02 -0600, Ken Gunderson kgund...@teamcool.net wrote: While OI and Illumos should retain and nurture a collaborative relationship, I also think OI should foster and maintain it's own

Re: [oi-dev] is there a vector for donating to OI?

2012-09-06 Thread Ken Gunderson
At Thu, 06 Sep 2012 15:57:13 -0400, mag...@yonderway.com wrote: On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 13:54:02 -0600, Ken Gunderson kgund...@teamcool.net wrote: The foundation doesn't necessarily need to govern anything. Indeed, my preference is that it would not. Rather it just needs to be a

Re: [oi-dev] is there a vector for donating to OI?

2012-09-06 Thread magnus
On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 14:15:48 -0600, Ken Gunderson kgund...@teamcool.net wrote: Doesn't need to be a C corp. Keep it simple. Maybe an LLC or S corp? Not if you want to accept tax-deductible donations. The cliff's notes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501(c) A 501(c)(3) may or may not be

Re: [oi-dev] is there a vector for donating to OI?

2012-09-06 Thread Ken Gunderson
At Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:32:41 -0400, mag...@yonderway.com wrote: On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 14:15:48 -0600, Ken Gunderson kgund...@teamcool.net wrote: Doesn't need to be a C corp. Keep it simple. Maybe an LLC or S corp? Not if you want to accept tax-deductible donations. The

Re: [oi-dev] is there a vector for donating to OI?

2012-09-06 Thread Andrew M. Hettinger
I think this is alot of work for no gain. As long as the illumos foundation is willing to earmark donations for us to use (even if they want to keep a small amount to cover their expenses for doing so), and is fine with us handling our governance ourselves I see no reason to go through the

Re: [oi-dev] is there a vector for donating to OI?

2012-09-06 Thread Ken Gunderson
At Thu, 6 Sep 2012 15:46:54 -0500, Andrew M. Hettinger wrote: [1 multipart/alternative (7bit)] [1.1 text/plain; US-ASCII (quoted-printable)] [1.2 text/html; US-ASCII (quoted-printable)] [...] The Illumos Foundation has been vary generous to provide us with hosting, support, and

Re: [oi-dev] is there a vector for donating to OI?

2012-09-06 Thread Deirdre Straughan
In fact, the establishment of the illumos Foundation has been a fair amount of work and is still in progress. It is incorporated in California as a 501(c)(6), has an initial board (Garrett, Jason Hoffman of Joyent, and Even Powell of Nexenta - we expect to expand this soon), and by-laws are in

Re: [oi-dev] is there a vector for donating to OI?

2012-09-06 Thread Andrew M. Hettinger
Andrew Hettinger http://Prominic.NET || ahettin...@prominic.net Tel: 866.339.3169 (toll free) -or- +1.217.356.2888 x.110 (int'l) Fax: 866.372.3356 (toll free) -or- +1.217.356.3356(int'l) Ken Gunderson kgund...@teamcool.net wrote on 09/06/2012 03:59:54 PM: Re: [oi-dev] is

Re: [oi-dev] is there a vector for donating to OI?

2012-09-06 Thread garrett . damore
I have no problem with illumos handling earmarking. In the future, I'll want to take a percentage of such donations for illumos general use, but I expect it to be reasonable -- perhaps 20% or 25% - and that seems not inappropriate given that OI uses illumos as its base anyway. As far as

Re: [oi-dev] is there a vector for donating to OI?

2012-09-06 Thread garrett . damore
On Sep 7, 2012, at 2:59 AM, Ken Gunderson kgund...@teamcool.net wrote: At Thu, 6 Sep 2012 15:46:54 -0500, Andrew M. Hettinger wrote: [1 multipart/alternative (7bit)] [1.1 text/plain; US-ASCII (quoted-printable)] [1.2 text/html; US-ASCII (quoted-printable)] [...] The Illumos

Re: [oi-dev] is there a vector for donating to OI?

2012-09-06 Thread Nick Zivkovic
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:07 AM, garrett.dam...@dey-sys.com wrote: However I think OI and illumos have been fairly symbiotic -- indeed OI still builds upon the illumos base, and at the moment OI is the de-facto reference distribution of illumos. However, if OI is considering a different