Re: [oi-dev] [discuss] Re: oi_151a9 roadmap & planning

2014-02-12 Thread Alasdair Lumsden
> From: darth.seri...@gmail.com > > Thank you all for your response. I am driving you to re-think. It is > my personal dream to see our community finally take off and overcome > this "heritage of missing collaboration" from Sun in illumos and > OpenIndiana. With all due respect Seth, you do

Re: [oi-dev] oi_151a9 roadmap & planning

2014-02-12 Thread Jean-Pierre André
Hi, Alan Coopersmith wrote: On 02/12/14 12:41 PM, Peter Tribble wrote: (Ideally, you want other communities to build and distribute software for you. That's one area where IPS is a huge obstacle - all this repository stuff is an intolerable burden on third parties, Nearly all package systems

Re: [oi-dev] oi_151a9 roadmap & planning

2014-02-12 Thread seth Nimbosa
I think the general idea is to get to a minimum criteria as basis for wider collaboration. We have to start small and manageable and agreeable. Then others will follow if they see the benefits of that working together for a healthier code and healthier community guidelines, then there will be lowe

Re: [oi-dev] oi_151a9 roadmap & planning

2014-02-12 Thread ken mays
Vincent, The manufacturers provide the drivers and chose whether to support their newer products on S11 or illumos-based OSes. You can use /hipster for modern server installs: http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/OI-hipster-text-20140124.iso oi_151a8: http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/151a8/o

Re: [oi-dev] oi_151a9 roadmap & planning

2014-02-12 Thread Alan Coopersmith
On 02/12/14 12:41 PM, Peter Tribble wrote: (Ideally, you want other communities to build and distribute software for you. That's one area where IPS is a huge obstacle - all this repository stuff is an intolerable burden on third parties, Nearly all package systems have repositories, what makes

Re: [oi-dev] oi_151a9 roadmap & planning

2014-02-12 Thread Peter Tribble
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Alasdair Lumsden wrote: > > TribbliX was a for fun desktop-oriented distro (correct me if I'm wrong) > by someone that hates IPS and loves SVR4 packaging. I got the impression > Peter never seemed to want to help OI out directly because of the IPS issue. > That's

Re: [oi-dev] oi_151a9 roadmap & planning

2014-02-12 Thread Bryan N Iotti
Besides, isn't a9 a bugfix only release that hasn't been spun as an ISO? If so, that's why it's not directly listed on the download page. The pkg.openindiana‎.org/dev address is the default publisher for OI, so just installing from the latest iso and running pkg update should get you to 151a9.

Re: [oi-dev] oi_151a9 roadmap & planning

2014-02-12 Thread Milan Jurik
Hi, On st, 2014-02-12 at 19:48 +0100, Vincent Torri wrote: > On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:43 PM, Milan Jurik wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On st, 2014-02-12 at 19:38 +0100, Vincent Torri wrote: > >> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) > >> wrote: > >> > On 12/02/2014 14:25, Andri L. Vicko

Re: [oi-dev] oi_151a9 roadmap & planning

2014-02-12 Thread Vincent Torri
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:43 PM, Milan Jurik wrote: > Hi, > > On st, 2014-02-12 at 19:38 +0100, Vincent Torri wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) >> wrote: >> > On 12/02/2014 14:25, Andri L. Vicko wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I Hope on Next OpenIndiana oi_151a9 wi

Re: [oi-dev] oi_151a9 roadmap & planning

2014-02-12 Thread Milan Jurik
Hi, On st, 2014-02-12 at 19:38 +0100, Vincent Torri wrote: > On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) > wrote: > > On 12/02/2014 14:25, Andri L. Vicko wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> I Hope on Next OpenIndiana oi_151a9 will be support Emulex 16 Gbps and > >> Qlogic 16 Gbps for comstar

Re: [oi-dev] oi_151a9 roadmap & planning

2014-02-12 Thread Vincent Torri
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: > On 12/02/2014 14:25, Andri L. Vicko wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I Hope on Next OpenIndiana oi_151a9 will be support Emulex 16 Gbps and >> Qlogic 16 Gbps for comstar target. >> > ?? A9 is already released. really ? http://openindiana.org/

Re: [oi-dev] oi_151a9 roadmap & planning

2014-02-12 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMK)
On 12/02/2014 14:25, Andri L. Vicko wrote: Hi, I Hope on Next OpenIndiana oi_151a9 will be support Emulex 16 Gbps and Qlogic 16 Gbps for comstar target. ?? A9 is already released. -- Dr.Udo GrabowskiInst.f.Meteorology a.Climate Research IMK-ASF-SAT www.imk-asf.kit.edu/english/sat.php KIT

Re: [oi-dev] oi_151a9 roadmap & planning

2014-02-12 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014, Alasdair Lumsden wrote: There is no community. Only self centered individuals who think their way is best. Fragmentation was inevitable. I stated very clearly that I thought fragmentation would kill illumos. I still feel that today - fragmentation is killing illumos. Inste

Re: [oi-dev] oi_151a9 roadmap & planning

2014-02-12 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alasdair Lumsden wrote: > Hi Seth, > > When I started OpenIndiana, I wanted to avoid the "Linux Distribution > Fragmentation" issue, so I created a community distro and tried to solicit > input from everyone and try to keep everyone happy. > > I failed miserably. Nobody wants to collaborate, ever

Re: [oi-dev] oi_151a9 roadmap & planning

2014-02-12 Thread Joerg Schilling
Jonathan Adams wrote: > *Joerg Schilling* wrote: > > "I am not sure whether you are aware about the fact that OpenSoaris has few > contributors and that Illumos is trying to frighten developers by not being > a sure partner you may trust" Wow, a reply after more than 5 months > Please take

[oi-dev] oi_151a9 roadmap & planning

2014-02-12 Thread Andri L. Vicko
Hi, I Hope on Next OpenIndiana oi_151a9 will be support Emulex 16 Gbps and Qlogic 16 Gbps for comstar target. Currently if we used 16 Gbps, comstar speed still 8 Gbps. Thanks, Andri L. Vicko ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org http://open

Re: [oi-dev] [discuss] Re: oi_151a9 roadmap & planning

2014-02-12 Thread Joerg Schilling
seth Nimbosa wrote: > Basically, we need to take one step back so we can move forward. > > the OpenSolaris community as it is has always been small from the start > after Sun was swallowed by Oracle and all official development ceased > > we had to start over with illumos and OpenIndiana, > howev

Re: [oi-dev] oi_151a9 roadmap & planning

2014-02-12 Thread Alasdair Lumsden
Hi Seth, When I started OpenIndiana, I wanted to avoid the "Linux Distribution Fragmentation" issue, so I created a community distro and tried to solicit input from everyone and try to keep everyone happy. I failed miserably. Nobody wants to collaborate, everyone wants to do their own thing. Henc

Re: [oi-dev] oi_151a9 roadmap & planning

2014-02-12 Thread Jonathan Adams
*Joerg Schilling* wrote: "I am not sure whether you are aware about the fact that OpenSoaris has few contributors and that Illumos is trying to frighten developers by not being a sure partner you may trust" Please take that with a pinch of salt. Joerg is an experienced and prolific programmer, wh

Re: [oi-dev] oi_151a9 roadmap & planning

2014-02-12 Thread Vincent Torri
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:30 AM, seth Nimbosa wrote: > Basically, we need to take one step back so we can move forward. > > the OpenSolaris community as it is has always been small from the start > after Sun was swallowed by Oracle and all official development ceased > > we had to start over with

Re: [oi-dev] oi_151a9 roadmap & planning

2014-02-12 Thread seth Nimbosa
Basically, we need to take one step back so we can move forward. the OpenSolaris community as it is has always been small from the start after Sun was swallowed by Oracle and all official development ceased we had to start over with illumos and OpenIndiana, however, there has not been much collab