Re: [oi-dev] State of development

2013-04-27 Thread Hans-Peter Carpenter
Hi all, I have had a look through the wiki and am getting stuck, first because I do not know the state of the union and have not followed what has already been done ... I only just joined. I am unsure of what has been done on the build part, we were supposed to use oi-build, which had been

Re: [oi-dev] State of development

2013-04-18 Thread Hans-Peter Carpenter
All, Luca, I sort of agree ... ok, I am just some random tech writer (with some dev skills in KSH, Java) who likes Solaris and would love to contribute to this project. The problem I see is vision - we probably need to find a way to get a FreeBSD driver wrapper, akin to ndis - it does not

Re: [oi-dev] State of development

2013-04-18 Thread Jim Klimov
On 2013-04-18 12:05, Hans-Peter Carpenter wrote: Just thought FreeBSD stole our DTRACE and ZFS, let's steal their drivers ;-) That's not stealing. The explicit licensing of both projects allows such borrowing of code to the benefits of collaboration, as well as adding extra eyeballs to review

Re: [oi-dev] State of development

2013-04-17 Thread Luca De Pandis
I think the main problem of OI is not the lack of leadership or man power. I think the main problem is the focus of this distro. Making a desktop distribution without any support of recent hardware is a no- go, because nobody will be interested in a distro that doesn't support KMS or WiFi.

Re: [oi-dev] State of development

2013-04-16 Thread Jose-Marcio Martins da Cruz
Thanks for your words, Alasdair, Strong leadership and a very very large investment in man-hours. I imagine people do want to contribute, and would, if they had an easy way to do so, with documentation and guidance and a helping hand. Absolutely yes !!! I hope the effort will continue.

Re: [oi-dev] State of development

2013-04-16 Thread Hugo
Absolutely agree with both Alasdair's and Jose's words. Obviously OI has an uphill struggle ahead, I think it's greatest problem, at least, at the moment, is lack of information for visitor's - especially first timers. OI has by far the best 'presence' on the internet thanks to google and

Re: [oi-dev] State of development

2013-04-16 Thread Garrett D'Amore
I've tried to stay away from commenting on this thread, but…. The problem with OI is lack of sufficient man power and leadership. There are other problems as well (vision is one I referred to in the past). But most urgently, to keep OI going, with any kind of cadence, it needs more

Re: [oi-dev] State of development

2013-04-15 Thread Ken Gunderson
At Mon, 15 Apr 2013 00:00:35 -0400, Magnus wrote: October 2012 was six months ago. Complaining that this was how long we've had to wait since the last oi release is directly relevant to OP's familiarity with OpenBSD. Please try to gain deeper understanding of what you're criticizing

Re: [oi-dev] State of development

2013-04-15 Thread Jose-Marcio Martins da Cruz
Alasdair Lumsden wrote: Hi GB, If you're looking to move to a new OpenSolaris derived distro (i.e. based on illumos, which is where all the kernel/core userland development takes place across all distros) then there are many choices besides OpenIndiana. I'd strongly recommend looking at

Re: [oi-dev] State of development

2013-04-15 Thread Jim Klimov
On 2013-04-15 20:56, Jose-Marcio Martins da Cruz wrote: Alasdair Lumsden wrote: OpenIndiana was started as an open source community developed distro similar to Debian, but due to a lack of interest there are only a few developers working on it part time, so updates are slow, and limited in

[oi-dev] State of development

2013-04-14 Thread G B
Presently my commercial websites and mail servers run on OpenBSD, but I am in the process of moving them to either OpenIndiana, FreeBSD, or NetBSD.  I have more than a decade using Solaris in the enterprise for some very large companies, so my knowledge of Solaris gives OI a step ahead of the

Re: [oi-dev] State of development

2013-04-14 Thread Magnus
On Apr 14, 2013, at 10:51 AM, G B wrote: OI's last release was Oct 2012, so my question is when is the next release (151a8) scheduled to be released? If you're coming from OpenBSD, this shouldn't be at all alarming. ___ oi-dev mailing list

Re: [oi-dev] State of development

2013-04-14 Thread Alasdair Lumsden
Hi GB, If you're looking to move to a new OpenSolaris derived distro (i.e. based on illumos, which is where all the kernel/core userland development takes place across all distros) then there are many choices besides OpenIndiana. I'd strongly recommend looking at SmartOS or OmniOS. SmartOS is

Re: [oi-dev] State of development

2013-04-14 Thread Ken Gunderson
At Sun, 14 Apr 2013 11:16:48 -0400, Magnus wrote: On Apr 14, 2013, at 10:51 AM, G B wrote: OI's last release was Oct 2012, so my question is when is the next release (151a8) scheduled to be released? If you're coming from OpenBSD, this shouldn't be at all alarming. This is a

Re: [oi-dev] State of development

2013-04-14 Thread Ken Gunderson
At Sun, 14 Apr 2013 07:51:37 -0700 (PDT), G B wrote: [1 multipart/alternative (7bit)] [1.1 text/plain; iso-8859-1 (quoted-printable)] [1.2 text/html; iso-8859-1 (quoted-printable)] Presently my commercial websites and mail servers run on OpenBSD, but I am in the process of moving

Re: [oi-dev] State of development

2013-04-14 Thread Dave Koelmeyer
You could also have a look at Tribblix: http://www.tribblix.org/ -- Dave Koelmeyer http://blog.davekoelmeyer.co.nz ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev

Re: [oi-dev] State of development

2013-04-14 Thread Magnus
October 2012 was six months ago. Complaining that this was how long we've had to wait since the last oi release is directly relevant to OP's familiarity with OpenBSD. Please try to gain deeper understanding of what you're criticizing before telling someone their opinion is lame, Ken. Sent from