On 19 Feb 2014, at 16:45, Peter Tribble peter.trib...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Andy Stormont andyjstorm...@gmail.com
wrote:
I’d love to see an SVR4 distro that was actually supported by upstream
illumos but I won’t be the one to make it happen.
Define
Peter Tribble peter.trib...@gmail.com wrote:
First, you need to stop saying must and attempting to
dictate design and implementation decisions.
Well it would be great if some people at Illumos would not try to dictate
things but signal that there is an interest for a collaboration.
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:42:53 +0100
From: joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de
snip
Well it would be great if some people at Illumos would not try to dictate
things but signal that there is an interest for a collaboration.
illumos is collaborative. In the past year there has been around 50
Alasdair Lumsden alasdai...@gmail.com wrote:
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:42:53 +0100
From: joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de
snip
Well it would be great if some people at Illumos would not try to dictate
things but signal that there is an interest for a collaboration.
illumos is
On 19 Feb 2014, at 12:17, Alasdair Lumsden alasd...@lumsden.eu wrote:
illumos is not a distribution. It carries packaging metadata in IPS format as
a convenience for downstream distributions, but downstream distributions are
not obliged to use IPS. Perhaps in the future illumos will stop
Andy Stormont andyjstorm...@gmail.com wrote:
The IPS metadeta isn?t really that useful to non-IPS distributions but I?m
not sure removing it is a good idea. Instead I?d rather see the SVR4 data
reintegrated if it?s going to see some use and somebody cares enough to
maintain it.
This is
On 19 Feb 2014, at 12:26, Joerg Schilling wrote:
Alasdair Lumsden alasdai...@gmail.com wrote:
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:42:53 +0100
From: joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de
snip
Well it would be great if some people at Illumos would not try to dictate
things but signal that there is
On 19 Feb 2014, at 13:30, Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de
wrote:
Andy Stormont andyjstorm...@gmail.com wrote:
The IPS metadeta isn?t really that useful to non-IPS distributions but I?m
not sure removing it is a good idea. Instead I?d rather see the SVR4 data
On 19 Feb 2014, at 14:27, Igor Kozhukhov wrote:
Hi All,
it is thread about OI , but let me provide additional info.
We are talking about illumos, but I think, we have to understand, that
illumos based on sponsors who are using it for business and depend on it.
Take a look list of
Bayard Bell buffer.g.overf...@gmail.com wrote:
From my experiences Illumos is non-collaborative and non-trustworthy.
This however is something that could be easily changed. Illumos would just
need to give a sign that there is a will for collaboration.
This is tiresome and
Andy Stormont andyjstorm...@gmail.com wrote:
This is what I did in late 2010 and early 2011.
Svr4 package meta data is present and maintained on SchilliX-ON.
Feel free to take it.
I?d love to see an SVR4 distro that was actually supported by upstream
illumos but I won?t be the one
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Andy Stormont andyjstorm...@gmail.comwrote:
I'd love to see an SVR4 distro that was actually supported by upstream
illumos but I won't be the one to make it happen.
Define supported. Tribblix is a pure SVR4 distro from a vanilla
illumos-gate,
really just a
On 19 Feb 2014, at 15:19, Joerg Schilling wrote:
Bayard Bell buffer.g.overf...@gmail.com wrote:
From my experiences Illumos is non-collaborative and non-trustworthy.
This however is something that could be easily changed. Illumos would just
need to give a sign that there is a will for
Bayard Bell buffer.g.overf...@gmail.com wrote:
illumos never made any promises to you,
I am sorry to see that you are uninformed.
Jörg
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Peter Tribble peter.trib...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Alasdair Lumsden
alasdai...@gmail.comwrote:
TribbliX was a for fun desktop-oriented distro (correct me if I'm wrong)
by someone that hates IPS and loves SVR4 packaging. I got the impression
Peter never
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*From: * Jean-Pierre André jean-pierre.an...@wanadoo.fr;
*To: * oi-dev@openindiana.org;
*Subject: * Re: [oi-dev] oi_151a9 roadmap planning
On 02/12/14 11:42 PM, Jean-Pierre André wrote:
Hi,
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
On 02/12/14 12:41 PM, Peter Tribble wrote:
(Ideally, you want other communities to build and distribute software
for you. That's one area where IPS is a huge obstacle - all this
repository stuff is an intolerable
Jean-Pierre,
1. Set -Bacpi-user-options=0x0 (or 0x2) during Grub boot.
2. Use a known good Wi-fi USB stick or daughtercard for WEP.
3. Use VESA for most display things.
For the most part, most oi-devs should have working hardware with OI (or speak
up, if not).
~ Ken Mays
On Thursday,
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:30 AM, seth Nimbosa darth.seri...@gmail.com wrote:
Basically, we need to take one step back so we can move forward.
the OpenSolaris community as it is has always been small from the start
after Sun was swallowed by Oracle and all official development ceased
we had
*Joerg Schilling* wrote:
I am not sure whether you are aware about the fact that OpenSoaris has few
contributors and that Illumos is trying to frighten developers by not being
a sure partner you may trust
Please take that with a pinch of salt. Joerg is an experienced and prolific
programmer, who
Hi,
I Hope on Next OpenIndiana oi_151a9 will be support Emulex 16 Gbps and
Qlogic 16 Gbps for comstar target.
Currently if we used 16 Gbps, comstar speed still 8 Gbps.
Thanks,
Andri L. Vicko
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Jonathan Adams t12nsloo...@gmail.com wrote:
*Joerg Schilling* wrote:
I am not sure whether you are aware about the fact that OpenSoaris has few
contributors and that Illumos is trying to frighten developers by not being
a sure partner you may trust
Wow, a reply after more than 5 months
Alasdair Lumsden alasdai...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Seth,
When I started OpenIndiana, I wanted to avoid the Linux Distribution
Fragmentation issue, so I created a community distro and tried to solicit
input from everyone and try to keep everyone happy.
I failed miserably. Nobody wants to
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014, Alasdair Lumsden wrote:
There is no community. Only self centered individuals who think their way is
best. Fragmentation was inevitable. I stated very
clearly that I thought fragmentation would kill illumos. I still feel that
today - fragmentation is killing illumos.
On 12/02/2014 14:25, Andri L. Vicko wrote:
Hi,
I Hope on Next OpenIndiana oi_151a9 will be support Emulex 16 Gbps and
Qlogic 16 Gbps for comstar target.
?? A9 is already released.
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On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK)
udo.grabow...@kit.edu wrote:
On 12/02/2014 14:25, Andri L. Vicko wrote:
Hi,
I Hope on Next OpenIndiana oi_151a9 will be support Emulex 16 Gbps and
Qlogic 16 Gbps for comstar target.
?? A9 is already released.
really ?
Hi,
On st, 2014-02-12 at 19:38 +0100, Vincent Torri wrote:
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK)
udo.grabow...@kit.edu wrote:
On 12/02/2014 14:25, Andri L. Vicko wrote:
Hi,
I Hope on Next OpenIndiana oi_151a9 will be support Emulex 16 Gbps and
Qlogic 16 Gbps for
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:43 PM, Milan Jurik milan.ju...@xylab.cz wrote:
Hi,
On st, 2014-02-12 at 19:38 +0100, Vincent Torri wrote:
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK)
udo.grabow...@kit.edu wrote:
On 12/02/2014 14:25, Andri L. Vicko wrote:
Hi,
I Hope on Next
Hi,
On st, 2014-02-12 at 19:48 +0100, Vincent Torri wrote:
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:43 PM, Milan Jurik milan.ju...@xylab.cz wrote:
Hi,
On st, 2014-02-12 at 19:38 +0100, Vincent Torri wrote:
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK)
udo.grabow...@kit.edu wrote:
On
: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 20:00
To: OpenIndiana Developer mailing list
Reply To: OpenIndiana Developer mailing list
Subject: Re: [oi-dev] oi_151a9 roadmap planning
Hi,
On st, 2014-02-12 at 19:48 +0100, Vincent Torri wrote:
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:43 PM, Milan Jurik milan.ju...@xylab.cz
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Alasdair Lumsden alasdai...@gmail.comwrote:
TribbliX was a for fun desktop-oriented distro (correct me if I'm wrong)
by someone that hates IPS and loves SVR4 packaging. I got the impression
Peter never seemed to want to help OI out directly because of the IPS
On 02/12/14 12:41 PM, Peter Tribble wrote:
(Ideally, you want other communities to build and distribute software
for you. That's one area where IPS is a huge obstacle - all this
repository stuff is an intolerable burden on third parties,
Nearly all package systems have repositories, what makes
Vincent,
The manufacturers provide the drivers and chose whether to support their newer
products on S11 or illumos-based OSes.
You can use /hipster for modern server installs:
http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/OI-hipster-text-20140124.iso
oi_151a8:
I think the general idea is to get to a minimum criteria as basis for wider
collaboration. We have to start small and manageable and agreeable. Then
others will follow if they see the benefits of that working together for a
healthier code and healthier community guidelines, then there will be
Hi,
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
On 02/12/14 12:41 PM, Peter Tribble wrote:
(Ideally, you want other communities to build and distribute software
for you. That's one area where IPS is a huge obstacle - all this
repository stuff is an intolerable burden on third parties,
Nearly all package systems
On 09/02/2013 09:00 PM, Andrew M. Hettinger wrote:
USB-3 is most likely going to have to come from Illumos-ON.
Sadly so, but this is my biggest need for OI so far. I don't care that
much about video drivers, though I'm sure plenty do.
Does SATA 6G not work properly? Personally, all my gear
, September 3, 2013 5:11 AM
Subject: Re: [oi-dev] oi_151a9 roadmap planning
Ray Arachelian r...@arachelian.com wrote:
Since oi_151a9 was scheduled for release this month, some initial
Could someone explain why you udr 151a9?
- It is not based on onnv_151
- It is most likely
Well played Garrett.On a more positive note I wish to thank everyone who has contributed directly or indirectly to OI and I'm sure there are many others like me who are adamant users but generally voiceless.Regards
Hi,
On ne, 2013-09-01 at 15:38 -0500, Bob Friesenhahn wrote:
On Sun, 1 Sep 2013, ken mays wrote:
Add more...or less...
Was ksh93 ever updated to fix known bugs (e.g. 'rm -f' with no
argument produes error) which were fixed in upstream?
find some mad man to do that at first :-(
Bob
On 2 September 2013 19:42, Milan Jurik milan.ju...@xylab.cz wrote:
Hi,
On ne, 2013-09-01 at 15:38 -0500, Bob Friesenhahn wrote:
On Sun, 1 Sep 2013, ken mays wrote:
Add more...or less...
Was ksh93 ever updated to fix known bugs (e.g. 'rm -f' with no
argument produes error) which were
On 09/01/2013 10:00 AM, ken mays wrote:
Hello,
Since oi_151a9 was scheduled for release this month, some initial
thoughts:
1. bump illumos to b02c4a353739
2. bump oi-jds to ee8cf112eec2 (hg.opensolaris.cz/oi-jds)
3. Nvidia 304.108 video driver
4. Xnv_161 integration (Alasdair ?)
Can
USB-3 is most likely going to have to come from Illumos-ON.
Does SATA 6G not work properly? Personally, all my gear is SAS (and I can
attest, that SAS 6G does work just fine)
Andrew Hettinger
http://Prominic.NET | Skype: AndrewProminic
Tel: 866.339.3169 (toll free) -or- +1.217.356.2888 x.110
Hi,
ken mays wrote:
Hello,
Since oi_151a9 was scheduled for release this month, some initial thoughts:
1. bump illumos to b02c4a353739
2. bump oi-jds to ee8cf112eec2 (hg.opensolaris.cz/oi-jds)
3. Nvidia 304.108 video driver
4. Xnv_161 integration (Alasdair ?)
Add more...or less...
Is
Hello,
The mentioned change is the latest including your changeset as well as the
'ncsd' spurious condition for Illumos. Whatever it translates to in git or
elsewhere.
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On Sun, 1 Sep 2013, ken mays wrote:
Add more...or less...
Was ksh93 ever updated to fix known bugs (e.g. 'rm -f' with no
argument produes error) which were fixed in upstream?
Bob
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Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us wrote:
On Sun, 1 Sep 2013, ken mays wrote:
Add more...or less...
Was ksh93 ever updated to fix known bugs (e.g. 'rm -f' with no
argument produes error) which were fixed in upstream?
If it is possible to just fix bugs and to avoid to extend
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