Re: [oi-dev] OI project reboot required

2013-05-12 Thread David Höppner
I actually get a permissions error. $ sudo pkg set-publisher -O http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster/ openindiana.org pkg set-publisher: Could not refresh the catalog for openindiana.org http protocol error: code: 403 reason: Forbidden URL:

Re: [oi-dev] OI project reboot required

2013-05-12 Thread Andrzej Szeszo
pkg.depotd is misbehaving when you publish packages directly to it. I am looking at it now. Andrzej On 12 May 2013 14:19, David Höppner 0xf...@gmail.com wrote: I actually get a permissions error. $ sudo pkg set-publisher -O http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster/ openindiana.org pkg

Re: [oi-dev] OI project reboot required

2013-05-12 Thread ken mays
Hello, Just so we can tack up a goal for the visionaries who like roadmaps and such... Proposed list of 'core' updates for oi_151a(8-9): *   Bump illumos to 19e11862653b     Implement accept4()     stack overflow due to zfs lz4 compression     Fast reboot support in ixgbe

Re: [oi-dev] OI project reboot required

2013-05-12 Thread Alan Coopersmith
On 05/12/13 05:19 AM, David Höppner wrote: I noticed Oracle upstream moves aggressively to amd64 only; installing amd64 just in bin not in bin/$(MACH64). It has been a few years since Oracle upstream dropped 32-bit i386 support, so that's just one of the decisions OI has to make - track

Re: [oi-dev] OI project reboot required

2013-05-12 Thread Jim Klimov
On 2013-05-12 16:54, ken mays wrote: Hello, Just so we can tack up a goal for the visionaries who like roadmaps and such... Proposed list of 'core' updates for oi_151a(8-9): * Bump illumos to 19e11862653b Implement accept4() stack overflow due to zfs lz4 compression

Re: [oi-dev] OI project reboot required

2013-05-12 Thread Jim Klimov
On 2013-05-12 17:51, Alan Coopersmith wrote: On 05/12/13 05:19 AM, David Höppner wrote: I noticed Oracle upstream moves aggressively to amd64 only; installing amd64 just in bin not in bin/$(MACH64). It has been a few years since Oracle upstream dropped 32-bit i386 support, so that's just one

Re: [oi-dev] OI project reboot required

2013-05-12 Thread Magnus
On May 12, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Jim Klimov wrote: I believe, 32-bit should be retained. While it is of little utility for ZFS and other huge-RAM jobs, it may be required for some netbooks, older hardware repurposed for tests and SOHO servers, as well as for resource-constrained testing VMs.

Re: [oi-dev] OI project reboot required

2013-05-12 Thread Garrett D'Amore
On May 12, 2013, at 9:05 AM, Magnus mag...@yonderway.com wrote: On May 12, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Jim Klimov wrote: I believe, 32-bit should be retained. While it is of little utility for ZFS and other huge-RAM jobs, it may be required for some netbooks, older hardware repurposed for tests

Re: [oi-dev] OI project reboot required

2013-05-12 Thread Jim Klimov
On 2013-05-12 19:06, Garrett D'Amore wrote: So, out of curiosity -- *who* is actively running illumos on 32-bit kit today? I'm not interested in hypothetical uses or kit that is sitting around in your garage waiting for you to do something with it…. I'm interested in people who would be

Re: [oi-dev] OI project reboot required

2013-05-12 Thread Garrett D'Amore
On May 12, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru wrote: On 2013-05-12 19:06, Garrett D'Amore wrote: So, out of curiosity -- *who* is actively running illumos on 32-bit kit today? I'm not interested in hypothetical uses or kit that is sitting around in your garage waiting for you

Re: [oi-dev] OI project reboot required

2013-05-12 Thread Peter Tribble
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Garrett D'Amore garrett.dam...@dey-sys.com wrote: On May 12, 2013, at 8:51 AM, Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@oracle.com wrote: It has been a few years since Oracle upstream dropped 32-bit i386 support, so that's just one of the decisions OI has to

Re: [oi-dev] OI project reboot required

2013-05-12 Thread Dmitry Kozhinov
I am running a small web and ftp server at university on a 32-bit AMD Athlon. So I would be affected. However I cannot argue for retaining 32-bit support in OI, because any baggage certainly should be dropped in order for OI project to proceed. I can upgrade the hardware (unlikely); I can

Re: [oi-dev] OI project reboot required

2013-05-12 Thread Nikola M.
On 05/12/13 07:10 PM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: On May 12, 2013, at 9:02 AM, Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru wrote: I believe, 32-bit should be retained. While it is of little utility for ZFS and other huge-RAM jobs, it may be required for some netbooks, older hardware repurposed for tests and SOHO

Re: [oi-dev] OI project reboot required

2013-05-12 Thread Nikola M.
On 05/12/13 07:06 PM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: We're going to have to support a 32-bit userland for some time to come, unfortunately, but we should no longer make that the default, and we should deliver all of our system utilities in 64-bit only form, IMO; and we could entirely kill off the

Re: [oi-dev] OI project reboot required

2013-05-12 Thread Garrett D'Amore
I have a hard time believing you would choose to switch to Linux instead of taking the time to upgrade the hardware. A two or three year or even five year old system will probably be a big upgrade and cost less than the labor to switch to Linux. Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2013, at 12:13

Re: [oi-dev] OI project reboot required

2013-05-12 Thread Garrett D'Amore
Don't misunderstand me. I want to eliminate 32 bit kernels and delivery of certain 32 bit versions of system utilities. This should in no way affect any 3rd party apps. We need to keep the 32 bit app runtime for the foreseeable future. Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2013, at 12:51 PM,

Re: [oi-dev] OI project reboot required

2013-05-12 Thread G B
To move OI forward I think 32-bit kernels should be dropped.  I had been looking for alternatives for my web/mail servers but have always liked Solaris and would like to continue to leverage my knowledge and have mostly decided to go with OI. From: Garrett

Re: [oi-dev] OI project reboot required

2013-05-12 Thread G B
To move OI forward I think 32-bit kernels should be dropped.  I had been looking for alternatives for my web/mail servers but have always liked Solaris and would like to continue to leverage my knowledge and have mostly decided to go with OI. From: Garrett

Re: [oi-dev] OI project reboot required

2013-05-12 Thread Christopher Chan
On Sunday, May 12, 2013 06:17 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: The exception here is the Chromebook experience and OLPC…. they were able to do something cool and make a compelling argument. But nobody else has built a compelling Linux or Unix desktop with a reason to exist besides being free. And