Re: [oi-dev] OI Foundation
Tony Brian Albers writes: > Gerard Arthus wrote: > > Should it be Illumos or Open Indiana; I guess the name has to be decided > > upon first . [...] > > Just brainstorming here: > How about just Indiana or jONEs(hehe, from Sun ONE and Indiana Jones) or > OpenSun or SunOp(as in dawn, but referring to Operating system) or > SolsticeOS(yup, Sun actually had Solstice Backup and other stuff, but > AFAIK not an OS with that name). > > I've actually always thought that OpenIndiana was a good name, but way > too long. I appreciate that people are thinking about the future of OpenIndiana. However, I believe that there are other priorities than renaming the project. Don't underestimate the effort: Securing new domains, changing the documentation, settting up new internet presences, etc. There's nothing really wrong with "OpenIndiana powered by illumos". Let's focus on finding people to contribute. Having some funds to give to individuals working on a specific task would be great, and I have some thoughts about that. But having more committed dev is paramount. Regards -- Volker -- ------------ Volker A. BrandtConsulting and Support for Solaris-based Systems Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] HP Microserver Gen8 HP Dynamic Smart Array B120i RAID Controller support
Hi Klaus! > I own an HP Microserver Gen8 and want to run OI onto it. The > Installation went smooth, but I can't get the Raid Controller running. > > I had read, that omnios (?) has driver (packages) for this controller. Not sure about that but I do know that illumos-based systems have issues with the RAID controller in the Microserver G7 and G8 versions. Do you have the license file for full RAID funcionality? I would suggest to switch the SATA controller to AHCI mode and use ZFS for RAID. Note that one of the many design peculiarities of the G8 is that disk slots #0 and #1 are 6GBit SATA, but #2 and #3 are only 3GBit. We only run SmartOS on G8 here, and it works fine in AHCI mode. Regards -- Volker -- -------- Volker A. BrandtConsulting and Support for Solaris-based Systems Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] texlive package
Hi David! Thanks for taking the time to think about TeX for OpenIndiana. > The use of the TLMGR and TL package manager, may perhaps not be incompatible > with IPS. > > I've added a pull request on github for a 'texlive' package: > > NAME (PUBLISHER) VERSION > IFO > meta-packages/texlive (userland) 1.0-2020.0.1.1 > i-- > > After installing that, you get the TeX live scripts to install TeX live: > > # pkg contents texlive > PATH > usr/share/install-tl-20210128/LICENSE.CTAN > usr/share/install-tl-20210128/LICENSE.TL > usr/share/install-tl-20210128/install-tl > ... > > Then to run "perl install-tl" it installs the TeX live system, I don't see any big win in packaging an installation tool. There is no difference to just downloading the installation tool directly, and just running it on the system where TeX is to be installed. The point is to have an IPS managed TeXlive environment that can be installed and removed with a single command, respectively. I do not know anyone who updates their TeX installation in between the yearly TeXlive releases. If a new one comes out, just install it, then wait another year. I would prefer just to install everything as a preconfigured IPS package. OmniOS already does that, except that it's a single huge package which brings some disadvantages. > And it may be possible to provide pre-packaged TeX distributions through IPS, > (for the various schemes above) that can be maintained with TLMGR as well. Absolutely. As the IPS package includes everything, the TeXlive manager will be there as well, and can be run at any time. It will change some files compared to their state in the IPS package database, which will create some leftover objects in /var/pkg/lost+found after an update. It's not hard to do at all. The effort is finding someone to do the actual work. :-) Regards -- Volker -- Volker A. BrandtConsulting and Support for Solaris-based Systems Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] Tasks to focus on
Hi Aurélien! > On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 5:35 PM Volker A. Brandt wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 02:35:01PM -0700, Nelson H. F. Beebe wrote: > > > > > > I'm part of the TeX Live team that every (northern) winter produces a > > > new release; many O/S distributions then take up that release and > > > repackage it according to their preferences. > > > > That's probably what Openindiana would do too. All software products > > installed on OI systems are installed from IPS packages, the same as > > on Solaris. The packages are built from source. Binaries are of no > > use for OI packages. > > > > First, though, there has to be demand for the software product. I, > > myself, have no interest in Tex. In fact, I don't even know what Tex > > is, except that it's used by mathematicians. I'm not one of those. I > > have some doubts about the demand. > > I use it every day. :-) TBH it's a self-built version on Solaris 11.3. > > > [...] > > > However, at Utah, I make a point of doing test builds for many more, > > > and I can report that this year, with newer compilers on Oracle > > > Solaris 11.4, there were few problems in building a complete TeX Live > > > 2021 set of binaries. > > > > > > The current status report is here: > > > > > > http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/texlive-utah/ > > > > I've read this quickly, and already see obstacles. OI packages have > > some restrictions that may not arise when the software is installed > > directly. > > TeX (in the form of TeXlive 2020) is available as an IPS package from > the OmniOS "extra" repository, so packaging is no problem. > > > Packaging TeXLive needs some scripting to split tex packages by groups, > otherwise you get a >= 1.5GB blob to install at once. > I think the Debian Sciences team had developed such scripts to maintain their > packages. True! I do have my own script for Solaris, that does exactly the same thing. This is the result: pkg://bb-c/bbc/application/texlive@1.0.0,5.11:20150514T171548Z pkg://bb-c/bbc/application/texlive/binaries@1.0.0,5.11:20150514T222435Z pkg://bb-c/bbc/application/texlive/doc-latex-1@1.0.0,5.11:20150514T170151Z pkg://bb-c/bbc/application/texlive/doc-latex-2@1.0.0,5.11:20150514T170242Z pkg://bb-c/bbc/application/texlive/doc-local@1.0.0,5.11:20150528T071726Z pkg://bb-c/bbc/application/texlive/doc-other@1.0.0,5.11:20150514T170337Z pkg://bb-c/bbc/application/texlive/formats@1.0.0,5.11:20150514T170427Z pkg://bb-c/bbc/application/texlive/local@1.0.0,5.11:20150514T210914Z pkg://bb-c/bbc/application/texlive/other@1.0.1,5.11:20150514T213612Z Seems I will need to update some time... :-) > I did package TexLive ~2015 in oi-userland but this was a lot of work to > maintain ctan packages individually so it was never integrated. > I ended up using the prepackaged TexLive suite for this reason. Exactly. That is the only sensible thing to do. I compiled my own binaries because I have "fat" packages with both SPARC and x86 contents. > Being an applied mathematician/numerician and therefore avid user of TeX I > would be very happy if TexLive were to be added to oi-userland. It's not difficult at all, just some tedious work. Regards -- Volker -- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Solaris-based Systems Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] Tasks to focus on
Hi Gary! > On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 02:35:01PM -0700, Nelson H. F. Beebe wrote: > > > > I'm part of the TeX Live team that every (northern) winter produces a > > new release; many O/S distributions then take up that release and > > repackage it according to their preferences. > > That's probably what Openindiana would do too. All software products > installed on OI systems are installed from IPS packages, the same as > on Solaris. The packages are built from source. Binaries are of no > use for OI packages. > > First, though, there has to be demand for the software product. I, > myself, have no interest in Tex. In fact, I don't even know what Tex > is, except that it's used by mathematicians. I'm not one of those. I > have some doubts about the demand. I use it every day. :-) TBH it's a self-built version on Solaris 11.3. > [...] > > However, at Utah, I make a point of doing test builds for many more, > > and I can report that this year, with newer compilers on Oracle > > Solaris 11.4, there were few problems in building a complete TeX Live > > 2021 set of binaries. > > > > The current status report is here: > > > > http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/texlive-utah/ > > I've read this quickly, and already see obstacles. OI packages have > some restrictions that may not arise when the software is installed > directly. TeX (in the form of TeXlive 2020) is available as an IPS package from the OmniOS "extra" repository, so packaging is no problem. Regards -- Volker -- Volker A. BrandtConsulting and Support for Solaris-based Systems Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] Porting of the Epiphany Browser
Hung Nguyen Gia via oi-dev writes: > Maybe I just wasted my time your time, too, with this stupid GNOME sh8t. [...] I understand your frustration and anger. Unfortunately, such is life in a Linux-centric open source world, where most developers don't care much about portability any more. However, the OpenIndiana community is so small that we don't want you to "silently go away." Instead, with a little patience and cooperation it is quite possible that you get the stuff you're interested in building to actually work. Packaging the results would be a separate step. There are several sources of patches for FOSS apps available for illumos and hence for OpenIndiana. There are many people here and in the more generic illumos mailing lists who have built things using meson. So if you have a specific problem, you are welcome to describe it here, including quoting the actual error message, and I am sure people will have a look. Regards -- Volker -- ------------ Volker A. BrandtConsulting and Support for Solaris-based Systems Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] What's wrong with Pale Moon?
Hung Nguyen Gia writes: > Well. Have read the whole discussion. Too bad, Pale Moon is the only way to > watch 4K quality videos on youtube on OI. Our outdated Firefox can't deal > with this. Then your efforts would be well-spent on helpinh to build a newer Fire- fox release, which several people are already working on IIRC. Further dividing effort on fringe browsers is not the best strategy IMHO. However, don't let that deter you. Your time is your own, and any and all interest in OpenIndiana is welcome. Regards -- Volker -- ------------ Volker A. BrandtConsulting and Support for Solaris-based Systems Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] What's wrong with Pale Moon?
Hung Nguyen Gia via oi-dev writes: > Our Firefox is way too outdated. Pale Moon is the only browser working well > on OI. I came across a page on their site but can't find it again, it > basically stated that the packaging of Pale Moon on OI was resisted by OI > developers. So what's wrong with Pale Moon? > > I know their branding issue. But we could easily overcome it by not build > with their official branding, our browser will be named New Moon and > everything is fine. Please let me know more about your decision. Thanks. There was a long discussion on this mailing list in December 2019. Please check the list archives for details. Basically, the Pale Moon developers insist that one use private copies of a large number of libraries. If the system version of these libs are used instead, the Pale Moon devs consider that a license violation. Also, they came across as arrogant and high-handed, which was not well- received in the OI community. Regards -- Volker -- ------------ Volker A. BrandtConsulting and Support for Solaris-based Systems Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] IPS package
G B via oi-dev writes: > root@pluto:/# pkg install racket > > pkg install: The following pattern(s) only matched packages that are not > available > for the current image's architecture, zone type, and/or other variant: > racket It's always a good idea to do a verbose run, and give the specific version of the package you want to install. In your case: # pkg install -v racket@7.7,5.11-0 This should give you more detailed error messages. Maybe we can then figure out what the problem is. Regards -- Volker -- ------------ Volker A. BrandtConsulting and Support for Solaris-based Systems Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] Where should SPARC go?
Hi Andrew! > I have been discussing my options for what OS to install on a Sun > T5140. I plan to use this as a multi-user OS, virtualization host, > and ZFS file server. The T5140 are nice machines. > It will be exposed to the Internet so other users can log in to the > base OS or their VM's. I will therefore harden the system and deploy > it in a network environment such as a DMZ and/or allow access via a > hardened VPN or jump box. Depending on what hardware you have available, you may want to use a LDOM for this. > My current plan is first to install Oracle Solaris 11.3 and evaluate > Solaris as an option. Before 11.3 reaches EOL I would re-evaluate > whether to invest in newer, supported hardware to run a newer and > supported version of Solaris. Solaris 11.3 has already reached EOL. If you have a support contract, you can still get security updates, but even those will stop soon. [...] > It would be ideal and preferable if I could use an illumos-derived OS > as a user. The aim would be to develop my skills and ultimately > contribute to SPARC support. This is a more productive goal I think. That is certainly possible. > This thread has given me the impression that OpenIndiana has (some?) > SPARC support. However according to the OI FAQ I would have to run a > different illumos-derived OS for SPARC support ( > https://www.openindiana.org/documentation/faq/#does-openindiana-provide-a-sparc-release > ). This FAQ does not reflect recent developments. Gary Mills has success- fully compiled a subset of OpenIndiana to run on SPARC. > Please could somebody clarify for me? Also, would OpenIndiana run on > my T5140? That subset would, yes. > I am looking for the most direct way to get started running *nix on > this T5140. Also I am investigating opportunities for contributing to > SPARC ports -- on various OS'es -- of particular user-level libraries > and applications. I have been discussing this with potential > collaborators. > > Thank you for any advice! I would suggest that you investigate LDOMs a.k.a. "Oracle VM for SPARC", and install Solaris 11.3 in a control domain on your T5140. Then, you can create LDOMs (= SPARC VMs) and install the Illumos-based OS of your choice inside those LDOMs. Currently, there are: - Solaris 11.3 - Tribblix (a minimal system using the SVR4 package format) - OpenIndiana (a subset of Openindiana using IPS packages) - v9os (an older version of OmniOS, using IPS packages) - Dilos, running Debian userland on an Illumos-based kernel Unfortuately, OpenSXCE is not developed any more. Feel free to ask any questions you might have. The Illumos mailing list is also worth joining, if you aren't on it already. Regards -- Volker -- Volker A. BrandtConsulting and Support for Solaris-based Systems Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] Would OI be interested in Pale Moon?
Till Wegmüller writes: > I concur. Some politeness goes a long way. This problem with the license > requirements however stems from firefox originally. Only that in > firefox'es case they fought with the debian community and lost. It seems > like the Palemoon community needs to have the same experience. Sadly To me, the problem looks slightly different: The Pale Moon devs insist on having private copies of a huge number of libraries in their source tree. If a distro changes that to use the system version of those libs instead, the PM people consider that a license violation. IIRC the original Debian ./. Firefox dispute was about logos and icons. It is understandable that OpenBSD does not want apps to be using separate non-audited and possibly outdated copies of system libraries. The arrogant and high-handed way in which the PM people phrased their demands were no help either. They have not realized that they are driving users away, a very stupid thing to do. Not sure if Jeremy should continue calling his build "Pale Moon". Maybe "New Moon" would be better, just to avoid sudden abuse coming from the PM people over some build flag. Regards -- Volker -- -------- Volker A. BrandtConsulting and Support for Solaris-based Systems Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] Where should SPARC go?
Olaf Bohlen writes: > Gary Mills writes: > > > What we really need right now is remote access to the package > > repository. I believe that pkg.depotd will do that, but I've never > > tried it. > > Oh, I already serve your repo (internally) with pkg.depotd, I can > set up a public repo, but I'd prefer to have it on the "official" > mirrors. Same here. :-) Of course I haven't actually *installed* something off it yet... Regards -- Volker -- -------- Volker A. BrandtConsulting and Support for Solaris-based Systems Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] How to create an ISO correctly?
Hi Gary! > Another progress report and some questions: I have now replaced all > v9os packages with oi-userland packages. There are no v9os packages > left. My T2000 has only oi-userland packages, ones that I have built. Nice! > It boots correctly. The publisher name is oi-userland, not the usual > userland or openindiana.org . That difference raises my first > question. > > I've read the information on distribution-constructor: > > http://docs.openindiana.org/dev/distribution-constructor/ > > as well as the man page for distro_const . Neither of them answered > my questions completely. > > Will distro_const change the publisher in the ISO file, both for the > packages and the `pkg publisher' command? How do I do this? Good question! Haven't used the Distro Constructor for years... Have you looked at the XML files in the /usr/share/distro_const tree? Maybe it is enough just to replace the current publisher and origin with the values of your new repository? > If not, can the publisher be changed on the host system? Does the > publisher in `pkg publisher' have to match the one in the file > repository? Not sure if I understand this... you have installed lots of oi-userland packages but your publisher is still v9os? Surely you *also* have oi-userland as a publisher. Just delete all references to v9os. If all else fails you can manually edit the "master" file located in /var/pkg/pkg5.image, clean all the caches and do a "pkg refresh --full". That might kill your kitten^WT2000 though. YMMV :-) > I see that the XML file used by distro_const specifies `entire' as the > package that includes all the packages to install to the ISO file. > My system has no package `entire'. How do I create and populate it? > Will it include some packages that do not exist? Will this be a > problem? The "entire" package just lists all consolidations as dependencies. If you have a file with all the consolidation names, it could be generated by a script. Look at some examples (don't have an OI system running ATM). The lines basically have the format depend fmri= type= where is "require" when the consolidation must be installed, and "incorporate" when just the matching version is specified. (Someone more knowledgeable with IPS please correct me if I'm wrong please.) > Finally, how do I create a USB image from the CD image? Another good question. Not sure if this is possible for SPARC. Regards -- Volker -- Volker A. BrandtConsulting and Support for Solaris-based Systems Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] Am I stuck?
Hi Gary! > These are my publishers: > > # pkg publisher > PUBLISHER TYPE STATUS P LOCATION > oi-userland origin online F > file:///export/home/mills/Downloads/code/oi-userland/sparc/repo/ > v9os (non-sticky) origin online F file:///data/ips/ > > I just published all of illumos-gate to the oi-userland repository. > There are now two copies of the > consolidation/osnet/osnet-incorporation package. This is the > installed one: > > # pkg info consolidation/osnet/osnet-incorporation > Name: consolidation/osnet/osnet-incorporation >Summary: OS/Net consolidation incorporation >Description: This incorporation constrains packages from the OS/Net > consolidation. > State: Installed > Publisher: v9os >Version: 0.5.11 > Branch: 0.151100 > Packaging Date: Wed Jul 27 07:12:37 2016 > Size: 0.00 B > FMRI: > pkg://v9os/consolidation/osnet/osnet-incorporation@0.5.11-0.151100:20160727T071237Z > > This is the new one: > > # pkg info -r consolidation/osnet/osnet-incorporation > Name: consolidation/osnet/osnet-incorporation >Summary: OS/Net consolidation incorporation >Description: This incorporation constrains packages from the OS/Net > consolidation. > State: Not installed > Publisher: oi-userland >Version: 0.5.11 > Branch: 2018.0.0.0 > Packaging Date: Sun Jun 23 22:35:19 2019 > Size: 0.00 B > FMRI: > pkg://oi-userland/consolidation/osnet/osnet-incorporation@0.5.11-2018.0.0.0:20190623T223519Z > > I expected that `pkg update -nv' would offer to remove the installed > incorporation and replace all of the old illumos-gate packages, over > 200 of them, with the new illumos-gate packages. It didn't do that. > It did report that it would replace ten packages from the v9os > publisher with newer versions from the oi-userland publisher, but this > list didn't include any of the illumos-gate packages. So it appears that pkg does not recognize the fact that version 0.5.11-2018.0.0.0:20190623T223519Z is newer than version 0.5.11-0.151100:20160727T071237Z -- correct? > When I tried to remove the incorporation with pkg, I got this result: [...] I don't think that you are supposed to be able to remove the package altogether. You should, hovewer, be able to update it. Do you also have an "entire" package? If so, what version does it have? Regards -- Volker -- Volker A. BrandtConsulting and Support for Solaris-based Systems Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] OI Hipster 2018.10 snapshot
Bob Friesenhahn writes: > On Wed, 31 Oct 2018, Volker A. Brandt wrote: > > > > John is absolutely right. The numbers speak for themselves. :-) > > I see only relatively small compression gains so the content must be > partially compressed already, or does not compress well. Well, >100 MB per file seems not so small to me. As others have pointed out, the files themselves are compressed already, but the USB format has some fluff. > Lzma type compression (e.g from xz, lzip, or 7z) will do better than > zip for this purpose. Note that I used bzip2. Not everyone has xz or 7z around. The format does not really matter in the end, as the relative gains per format are indeed small. Regards -- Volker -- -------- Volker A. BrandtConsulting and Support for Solaris-based Systems Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] OI Hipster 2018.10 snapshot
Till Wegmüller writes: > They actually are already compressed. Just not wrapped into a compressed > archive. Both the USB and ISO files are just a container for the > compressed files. for e.g. solaris.zlib or the Boot Archive. These > Compressed files will be decompressed on load by the Boot loader or OS > respectively. > > On 31.10.18 04:33, John Howard wrote: > > The USB files should be compressed for downloads to save gigabytes of > > bandwidth. I just did a test on the .usb files using pbzip2: OI-hipster-gui-20181023.usb 1.9G OI-hipster-gui-20181023.usb.bz2 1.5G OI-hipster-minimal-20181023.usb 486M OI-hipster-minimal-20181023.usb.bz2 360M OI-hipster-text-20181023.usb 845M OI-hipster-text-20181023.usb.bz2 661M John is absolutely right. The numbers speak for themselves. :-) Regards -- Volker -- -------- Volker A. BrandtConsulting and Support for Solaris-based Systems Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] Packages only in the main repository
Alan Coopersmith writes: > > driver/network/ce > > This was the Cassini Ethernet driver for old SPARC systems, I don't > remember if source ever got published. No, it wasn't. Many years ago Garrett D'Amore mused about writing GLDv3 versions of the ce and ge drivers, but I am not holding my breath... :-) [...] > > library/medialib > > Source was available once upon a time: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaLib -r--r--r-- 1 4388222 Sep 15 2007 common.SUNWmlibd.2.5.tar.gz -r--r--r-- 1 1248 Sep 15 2007 common.SUNWmlibk.2.5.tar.gz -r--r--r-- 1 30898690 Sep 15 2007 i386.SUNWmlib.2.5.tar.gz -r--r--r-- 1 33971429 Sep 15 2007 i386.SUNWmliba.2.5.tar.gz -r--r--r-- 1406990 Sep 15 2007 i386.SUNWmlibe.2.5.tar.gz -r--r--r-- 1 31996 Sep 15 2007 i386.SUNWmlibh.2.5.tar.gz -r--r--r-- 1 1323 Sep 15 2007 i386.SUNWmlibl.2.5.tar.gz -r--r--r-- 1852548 Sep 15 2007 i386.SUNWmlibt.2.5.tar.gz -r--r--r-- 1 2782196 Sep 19 2007 mediaLibwrapper.2.5.tar.gz -r--r--r-- 1 33609 Sep 20 2007 README.mlib.2.5.txt -r--r--r-- 1 116396682 Sep 15 2007 sparc.SUNWmlib.2.5.tar.gz -r--r--r-- 1 123247092 Sep 15 2007 sparc.SUNWmliba.2.5.tar.gz -r--r--r-- 1527794 Sep 15 2007 sparc.SUNWmlibe.2.5.tar.gz -r--r--r-- 1 31981 Sep 15 2007 sparc.SUNWmlibh.2.5.tar.gz -r--r--r-- 1 1554 Sep 15 2007 sparc.SUNWmlibl.2.5.tar.gz -r--r--r-- 1943558 Sep 15 2007 sparc.SUNWmlibt.2.5.tar.gz Note that these are the "real" timestamps. Cheers -- Volker -- ------------ Volker A. BrandtConsulting and Support for Solaris-based Systems Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] How to kill old sfe package meta-data?
Hi Gordon! > tried pkg update too: > # pkg -R /mnt update library/mpc > No updates available for this image. > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 5:43 PM Till Wegmüller wrote: > > Hrmm ips does aparently not keep any Manifests locally. Which is not > nice. One would assume that IPS would keep more data in it's sate > database. Considering it always tries to ensure the system is in a > specific state. > > I think there might be a way IPS could continue working even if the > remote deletes manifests. > > try pkg update first before installing or uninstalling anything > > lets see if the makers of IPS had the same Idea i just had. > > On 8/30/18 11:23 PM, Gordon Ross wrote: > > root@vm530gwr# pkg -R /mnt publisher > > PUBLISHER TYPE STATUS P LOCATION > > userland origin online F > > file:///tank/ws/oi-userland/i386/repo/ > > openindiana.org <http://openindiana.org> (non-sticky) origin online F > > http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster/ > > sfe (disabled) origin online F > > http://sfe.opencsw.org/localhostoih/ > > root@vm530gwr# pkg -R /mnt uninstall library/mpc > > > > Errors were encountered while attempting to retrieve package or file > > data for > > the requested operation. > > Details follow: > > > > http protocol error: Unknown error code: 404 reason: Not Found > > URL: > > 'http://sfe.opencsw.org/localhostoih/manifest/0/ > sfe%2Flibrary%2Fmpc@1.0%2C5.11-0.151.1.5%3A20120727T204712Z' > > (happened 4 times) Have you considered editing the file /var/pkg/pkg5.image directly, and removing the SFE authority completely? Regards -- Volker -- Volker A. BrandtConsulting and Support for Solaris-based Systems Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] X packages to deprecate
Alan Coopersmith writes: > But if you're building them from source today, then you're using > libxaw7, not libxaw4 or libxaw5 right? I only saw 4 & 5 on the > proposed deprecation list, not 7. Correct, it is using libXaw7. FWIW 4 & 5 can go IMHO. :-) Regards -- Volker -- ------------ Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] X packages to deprecate
Udo Grabowski (IMK) writes: > On 27/08/2016 20:30, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > >> pkg:/x11/library/toolkit/libxaw4@0.5.11,5.11-2013.0.0.0 > >> pkg:/x11/library/toolkit/libxaw5@0.5.11,5.11-2013.0.0.0 > > > > These provide backwards binary compatibility for Xaw apps compiled on older > > Solaris releases - libXaw4 for those built on Solaris 2.2 or prior (yes, > > 1992ish), libXaw5 for those build on Solaris 2.3 through 10. > > > > libXaw7 is the current version of this, introduced to OpenSolaris in 2008. > > > > > > There are a few programs out there needed that use this library, > xfig being the most prominent of these. The xdvi viewer from the TeXlive system also (still) uses libXaw. Regards -- Volker -- -------- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Code of Conduct
Hello all! Мартин Бохниг via oi-dev writes: > Unbelievable and I won't comment on that any further, except: > > > > > Понедельник, 25 июля 2016, 10:01 UTC от Volker A. Brandt : > > -- > ------------ > Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris > Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ > Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANY Email: v...@bb-c.de > Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 > Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt > > "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" > > > > > > Why in God's name are such 100% clear capitalist commercial advertisemnets by > non-code-contributors not a problem? Please be aware that, as a (co-)owner of a company, I am required by German law to give certain information about that company in all email communications that could be construed by anyone to be work-related. If I leave out this information, I am liable to fines and demands of "punitive damage" payments by "competitors". Since my work is supporting Solaris-oid systems, and their users, I include this information in postings to mailing lists. Rather be safe than sorry. My one weak protest against this policy is to include my shoe size in this information. Other than that, I will not respond to these ad-hominem attacks, nor take part in any public discussion of individual persons. Regards -- Volker -- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] OpenIndiana Code of Conduct
Dear Nikola! > I just received threats from Adam in the form of "warning", [...] > On personal level, it hurts more to recognize that long-standing, importand > and > capable guy like Adam, makes so much of mistakes and misuse, the minute it > gets > to real community dealings. The same thing could be said about you. Please relax, calm down, and do some other things for a few days. Nobody wants to forbid you from stating your opinion, but the way you do it, and the way you attack people personally, is very exhausting. Just imagine what someone else might feel when he reads your emails describing him *before* you send it. Words like "dumb", "misuse", and "fascist" are really not appropriate in this discussion. >From reading this list, on IRC, and looking at commits, I know that you are a smart and motivated long-time contributur to OI. Please listen to the rest of us when we ask you to relax a bit. Thanks -- Volker A. Brandt -- -------- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] AI ISO images
Hi alp! > I want to ask if someone tried creating and using AI or AI ISO images > with OpenIndiana Hipster. > Do we want to start preparing them again? Has someone real need in such > images? I don't have any need but it would be nice to be able to install OI from an AI server. I want to install an OI system anyway, so if you prepare something I will be happy to test. Regards -- Volker -- -------- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] Making VIM run in a modern mode by default
Hello all! > The list of gains is huge but the most obvious to me are: > a) syntax highlighting makes it easier to read code and configuration > files > b) navigation is possible with arrow keys, page-up/down, home/end > c) selecting blocks of texts and running regexps over them is trivial > > And I see not a single downside in the non-compatible vim mode. > > > Maybe my question was stupid but: are there environment for which using "vim" > as "vi" breaks things ? (serial consoles ?) > If it is the case then Volker has a point. Wow, interesting discussion. Maybe I should clarify my concern. When I log in as root via the system console on a newly installed system, I do not want to be distracted by anything "non-standard". I have not experienced any problems yet simply because I have never used vim in non-compatible mode as root. In my "normal" user account, I have a .vimrc file. The simple presence of this file makes vim switch to non-compatible mode. I don't really care because obviously I use Emacs for most things. :-) The problem I see with your suggestion is simply the fact that it will also change the behaviour for the root user. Regards -- Volker -- ---- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] Making VIM run in a modern mode by default
Hello Denys! > VIM runs in non-compatible mode by default on many if not all Linux > distributions and frankly I see no reasons why would someone want to > have it in "compatible" mode. Because this is not Linux, and the "system" vi should be as close to the original Solaris vi it replaced. Why can't you just set that for your user account? What is the gain? Remember that the system vi may be used in a limited environment, such as a serial system console. Don't fix things that aren't broken. Regards -- Volker -- ------------ Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] zeromq versions --> please stop :-)
Hello all! I get a new copy of Jim's old mail (and a reply by Alexander Pyhalov) from March 30th *per minute*. It seems that the mailer at everycity insists on resending it: > Received: from w01.openindiana.everycity.co.uk > (w01.openindiana.everycity.co.uk [95.131.249.92]) > (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) > (No client certificate requested) > by mail.bb-c.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27D9A71B7C; > Mon, 11 Apr 2016 12:15:22 +0200 (CEST) > Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=w01.openindiana.everycity.co.uk) > by w01.openindiana.everycity.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) > (envelope-from ) > id 1apYs8-000Iql-Ki; Mon, 11 Apr 2016 11:15:08 +0100 > Received: from [93.175.31.8] (helo=relay-mta.cos.ru) > by w01.openindiana.everycity.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) > (envelope-from ) id 1allKb-000Mws-4V > for oi-dev@openindiana.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 23:44:49 +0100 > Received: from sunmail.cos.ru (mail.cos.ru [81.5.113.73]) > by relay-mtc.cos.ru (8.14.3+Sun/8.14.3) with ESMTP id u2UH4iWJ011350 > for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 20:04:50 +0300 (MSK) > MIME-version: 1.0 > Received: from [192.168.2.153] ([31.7.243.238]) > by sunmail.cos.ru (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built > Sep 26 > 2008; 64bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0o4v0034e3li0...@sunmail.cos.ru> for > oi-dev@openindiana.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 20:08:29 +0300 (MSK) Is this just me? Alasdair, are you still managing openindiana.everycity.co.uk? Could you have a look? Please? :-) Thanks -- Volker -- -------- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] [developer] SPARC development environment available
Hi Olaf! > it took me some months more than originally planned, but I give > free access to Zones running a more-or-less-complete OI 151a8. > These Zones run on a LDOM which is located on a T5220. The > Development LDOM has 24 Threads at 1.4GHz and 10G RAM. This is very cool. Did you document the way you set up this environment? I would be interested in replicating it. Thanks -- Volker -- -------- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim Email: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J. H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] Building pkg
> When attempting to build pkg I get: user@host:/export/builds/pkg$ hg > clone http://hg.opensolaris.org/sustaining/oi_151a/pkg-gate/ All subdomains of opensolaris.org redirect to solaris.java.net. There is no mercurial repo there. :-) So you need to use hg clone https://hg.java.net/hg/ips~pkg-gate if you want to clone the official Oracle Solaris hg repo of the IPS sources. Is this what you are trying to do? Regards -- Volker -- ---- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] [HEADSUP] IPS update in OpenIndiana Hipster
Hi Alexander! > I'm glad to inform you that I've just updated IPS to version close > to 2015 Oracle IPS, based on work which Igor Kozhukhov has done for > EveryCity (https://github.com/everycity/pkg5/tree/ec-py27-ec-zones > ). This is very nice! Sorry that I cannot test this at the moment. However, I have one question: Which cherrypy version is in there? The reason I ask is that I am using publisher names with a dash (minus sign, '-'). The cherrypy version Oracle is using (3.1.2) works fine. The cherrypy in OmniOS (3.2.2) is broken and will not serve packages for such publishers. Dan McD has asked me to test with 3.5.0, which I will do as soon as I can. Thanks -- Volker -- ------------ Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] Resignation
Igor Kozhukhov writes: [...] > And I want to add my 2c: I can see thread about management of > project. With management and without contributors - management can > try manage managers :) But with contributors - we will find the way > how to manage project :) You are right. But for normal people with just a bit of time it is to complicated. Sometimes I build packages for Solaris 10 & 11. If I had a working build environment and knew what to check out and where to upload things, I would not mind updating those packages for OI from time to time, especially for SPARC. But as things stand it is too much work to get to a point where one could start contributing. Regards -- Volker -- -------- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] Resignation as OI Lead
garrett.dam...@dey-sys.com writes: > So then, I have just a single question: What is the compelling > reason for doing all this effort? Why not just load up Ubuntu on > your desktop (or buy a Mac, or even run *cough* Windows) and run > illumos bits in a VM? http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2012/Aug-29.html :-) -- -------- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] Resignation as OI Lead
Hello Alasdair! > It is with much sadness that I hereby resign as project lead. This is sad news indeed. Thank you for all your work. It has not gone unnoticed, and it stands as an example to others. I personally hope that OI continues in one form or another. Best regards -- Volker -- ---- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim Email: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J. H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] illumos-userland update
Hi Alasdair! This all sounds very interesting. > 1. Primary compiler will be GCC 4.4, with 4.5 and 4.6 support (4.5 for compat > with S11) > 2. OpenSSL 1.0 > 3. OpenJDK > 4. Updated Firefox & Thunderbird > 5. Updated Python & Ruby > 6. Latest Apache, lighttpd, nginx, PHP, MySQL and Postgresql packages > 7. Chromium > 8. VirtualBox open source edition 9. Thorougly document the entire process of contributing on the userland level so that people interested in packaging specific applications, libraries etc. but without sufficient time to master the entire system still have a chance to join. Yes, that describes me. :-) Best regards -- Volker -- ------------ Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] Documentation Systems
Hello Tobias! > I summarized information about reStructuredText, DocBook and DITA. This is very interesting information, thank you. One thing that should also be investigated for each format is licensing, both things like definitions, DTDs, etc., and the licenses of the tools. In our company, we are using docbook + dblatex + pdflatex with very good results. The dblatex is actively and very well maintained by its original author. Regards -- Volker -- ---- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim Email: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J. H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] Fwd: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Documentation-Project
> I think we need tools that then turn into getting people involved in > documentation, this is an opportunity where we need to understand how we > capitalise on that for further opportunity. You've expressed some interest > in contributing to documentation: what would get you to become involved in > this capacity? While the question was directed at Ken Gunderson, I can answer for myself that it's a question of available time. So the best tools would be those that provide easy access, a not-too-steep learning curve, and the opportunity to work on things on and off, not having to do elaborate setup tasks each time. Regards -- Volker -- -------- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim Email: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J. H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] Fwd: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Documentation-Project
> Iirc, Sphinx supported export to a variety of formats. Since > documentation is something developers are historically far less keen on > than writing code and we've got someone interested stepping up and > contributing in this much neglected capacity, barring any technical > reasons to the contrary, my vote would be to give Tobias the thumbs up. Having glanced at the Sphinx web site, it is not obvious to me if there are options to generate docbook output. Sphinx seems very Python-centric to me, which I'd rather avoid. Of course when Tobias does the work he gets to decide what tool to use. I'd feel better if all the time and effort spent on the content can be reused when the documentation is re-tooled to something more common, like docbook. Regards -- Volker -- ------------ Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim Email: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J. H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] illumos based OpenIndiana DVD
> It seems to have been moved to the /148/ sub-directory: > http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/148/oi-dev-148a-x86-20100218-1.iso > > Btw, the date on the ISO is wrong, we are in 2011 ;) Ah, so that was the trick... I looked in 148 but only for things that said "2011"... :-) Thanks -- Volker -- ------------ Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim Email: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J. H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
Re: [oi-dev] illumos based OpenIndiana DVD
Hello Andrzej! > http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/oi-dev-148a-x86-20100218-1.iso I wanted to give this a spin but could not find it. Has it been removed? Thanks -- Volker -- ---- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim Email: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J. H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt ___ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
