[okular] [Bug 305915] Submit button not displayed in PDF form opened in Okular

[Peter Flynn]

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 Status|NEEDSINFO   |RESOLVED
 Resolution|WAITINGFORINFO  |NOT A BUG

--- Comment #20 from Peter Flynn  ---
My error. After Comment 8 I consider this sufficiently explained, and after
this amount of time, the matter is probably obsolete.

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[okular] [Bug 305915] Submit button not displayed in PDF form opened in Okular

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This bug has been in NEEDSINFO status with no change for at least
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[okular] [Bug 305915] Submit button not displayed in PDF form opened in Okular

[Justin Zobel]

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 Resolution|--- |WAITINGFORINFO

--- Comment #18 from Justin Zobel  ---
The Submit Form button is showing for me in Okular 21.03.70.

Can you please test and confirm if this issue is still occurring or if this bug
report can be marked as resolved. I've set the bug status to "needsinfo"
pending your response, please change back to "reported" or "resolved" when you
respond, thanks.

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[okular] [Bug 305915] Submit button not displayed in PDF form opened in Okular

[Michael Weghorn]

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[okular] [Bug 305915] Submit button not displayed in PDF form opened in Okular

[Nate Graham]

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--- Comment #17 from Nate Graham  ---
And also Uwe, I do not in any way mean to suggest that you are flaming Albert.
You are being really patient and professional here, and for that we are
appreciative!

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[okular] [Bug 305915] Submit button not displayed in PDF form opened in Okular

[Nate Graham]

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--- Comment #16 from Nate Graham  ---
For what it's worth,  too have yet to encounter a PDF with forms that I could
actually fill out with Okular. :( We might want to mark the feature in the UI
as experimental or "use at your own risk" or something. I have to agree with
Uwe that it may be better to disable or at least warn about a half-working
feature than let people try it, get frustrated with bugs that make it very
broken. They often get angry and want to flame the developers, which is very
depressing and saps people's motivation to actually fix the issues.

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[okular] [Bug 305915] Submit button not displayed in PDF form opened in Okular

[Simon Andric]

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[okular] [Bug 305915] Submit button not displayed in PDF form opened in Okular

[Uwe Stöhr]

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--- Comment #15 from Uwe Stöhr  ---
> Let me make sure i understand you, since the feature is not useful for you, 
> you think it should be disabled for everyone?

You misunderstood me. Maybe an example of my experience as a developer: For LyX
under Windows we implemented support to use EMF and WMF images in LaTeX
documents. It worked for my testcases and files I used. But it did not work for
many users. So in fact I had to disable the support. I was not happy but it was
the right decision because too many users were disappointed because we said it
could handle such files but in real life too many images failed. (Meanwhile we
found the solution to let Inkscape do the conversion and now it works properly
and I could re-enable support for these image types.)

I proposed the harsh way concerning PDF forms because it is not that there is a
particular bug but the basic features of PDF forms are missing. I mean what
helps me to fill out a form if I cannot submit the FDF file to the
administration? Moreover, many, many PDF forms have radiobuttons to choose e.g.
the sex, but this very basic feature is also not working, see bug
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=382857

So please don't be upset, I never stated that Okular is not a good program at
all. it displays even very large PDFs flawlessly. It is only about PDF forms
thta don't work for many real life applications. Evince has by the way the same
problems and I reported these bugs there too.

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[okular] [Bug 305915] Submit button not displayed in PDF form opened in Okular

[Albert Astals Cid]

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--- Comment #14 from Albert Astals Cid  ---
(In reply to Uwe Stöhr from comment #13)
> (In reply to Albert Astals Cid from comment #12)
> 
> > Or maybe you should actually try to contribute something instead of
> > attacking people that give you things for free.
> 
> I did not attack anybody. I am also an OpenSource developer (www.lyx.org).
> This doesn't matter because I think it is a fair opinion to say better don't
> promote a feature if it is not fully working.
> 
> I am new to Linux and I'm trying out how I can do my work with programs on
> this OS. PDF forms are nothing special because for everything in the
> administration in my town I have to fill forms. I googled around and Okular
> was promoted having PDF form support. After an hour of testing I had to give
> up because I could not fill and submit real life documents from the
> administration. It is not that Okular misses a particular feature but the
> basic ones. Therefore I think either offer full PDF form support and if this
> is not possible either disable support for forms or warn the users telling
> him what is missing.

Let me make sure i understand you, since the feature is not useful for you, you
think it should be disabled for everyone?

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[okular] [Bug 305915] Submit button not displayed in PDF form opened in Okular

[Uwe Stöhr]

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--- Comment #13 from Uwe Stöhr  ---
(In reply to Albert Astals Cid from comment #12)

> Or maybe you should actually try to contribute something instead of
> attacking people that give you things for free.

I did not attack anybody. I am also an OpenSource developer (www.lyx.org). This
doesn't matter because I think it is a fair opinion to say better don't promote
a feature if it is not fully working.

I am new to Linux and I'm trying out how I can do my work with programs on this
OS. PDF forms are nothing special because for everything in the administration
in my town I have to fill forms. I googled around and Okular was promoted
having PDF form support. After an hour of testing I had to give up because I
could not fill and submit real life documents from the administration. It is
not that Okular misses a particular feature but the basic ones. Therefore I
think either offer full PDF form support and if this is not possible either
disable support for forms or warn the users telling him what is missing.

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[okular] [Bug 305915] Submit button not displayed in PDF form opened in Okular

[Albert Astals Cid]

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--- Comment #12 from Albert Astals Cid  ---
(In reply to Uwe Stöhr from comment #11)
> Still in Okular 1.1.3.
> 
> Since most PDF form features are broken since 5 years, does it mean there is
> nobody in the Okular team who could have a look? If so Maybe the PDF form
> features should be disabled for the next release because Okular promises a
> feature that it basically doesn't have.

Or maybe you should actually try to contribute something instead of attacking
people that give you things for free.

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[okular] [Bug 305915] Submit button not displayed in PDF form opened in Okular

[Uwe Stöhr]

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--- Comment #11 from Uwe Stöhr  ---
Still in Okular 1.1.3.

Since most PDF form features are broken since 5 years, does it mean there is
nobody in the Okular team who could have a look? If so Maybe the PDF form
features should be disabled for the next release because Okular promises a
feature that it basically doesn't have.

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[okular] [Bug 305915] Submit button not displayed in PDF form opened in Okular

[Uwe Stöhr]

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[Okular-devel] [okular] [Bug 305915] Submit button not displayed in PDF form opened in Okular

[Albert Astals Cid]

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Version|0.14.3  |0.19.60

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