Re: [OM Cooker] Newer Thoughts

2014-03-14 Thread Tomasz Gajc
Thanks Robert for these thoughts, please fill bugs for easily tracking of
progress.

Speaking of 1,6 GB of RAM needed, this is because we use livecd-tools in
stead of anything that support overlay. We adressed this issues on 2014.0
specification list. Task was assigned on Bero and Arisel, unfortunately we
run out of time, not to mention we are short on manpower :(

Ad 1.  Hmm this is somehow related to livecd-tools - someone need to
investigate it.
Ad 2. Nice to know that someone likes my idea of join and donate desktop
entries :) Speaking of Install this entry already exists on
draklive-install but somehow does not show on KDE desktop.
Ad 3. Well this can be easily removed, by default cups is enabled by
systemd, i can do the same for smb.
Ad4. I'd suggest to stick with current ads.




2014-03-14 6:29 GMT+01:00 Robert Xu rob...@gmail.com:

 Yes, yes, I'm being noisy again.

 But I have to remark on the current state of 2014.0 (from a build I
 downloaded from ABF, dated yesterday). While the previous alpha could
 not do anything remotely useful in live mode, I can get this one to
 finally boot to live mode, and be useful. And it feels like it's
 running at a decent speed.

 Granted, I must still confirm that my environment still requires about
 1536 MB of memory to run. But I think I'm going to begin to correlate
 ISO size to required amount of memory... (sanity reasons).

 Kudos to everyone!

 Aesthetic-wise, a few requests/questions - I'll file bugs for
 requests, but they're not urgent:

 1. Can we add quiet to the boot parameters on the LiveCD and/or
 desktop? Just because the verbose output may be unappealing to people.
 2. I saw the donate and join desktop entries, which are great! Can we
 also have an Install entry for Live mode?
 3. The services screen from drakx's firstboot seems completely
 unnecessary. Those services should probably be on by default anyway...
 or triggered by systemd socket actvation, which IIRC Samba and CUPS
 should fall into that category. Can we have that removed? I wonder if
 it confuses users.
 4. Should we update the installer slides to reflect the new artwork,
 instead of a plain blue background? Could also be used to promote the
 community.

 Again, kudos!

 --
 cheers, Robert :: protocol.by/rxu





[OM Cooker] Newer Thoughts

2014-03-13 Thread Robert Xu
Yes, yes, I'm being noisy again.

But I have to remark on the current state of 2014.0 (from a build I
downloaded from ABF, dated yesterday). While the previous alpha could
not do anything remotely useful in live mode, I can get this one to
finally boot to live mode, and be useful. And it feels like it's
running at a decent speed.

Granted, I must still confirm that my environment still requires about
1536 MB of memory to run. But I think I'm going to begin to correlate
ISO size to required amount of memory... (sanity reasons).

Kudos to everyone!

Aesthetic-wise, a few requests/questions - I'll file bugs for
requests, but they're not urgent:

1. Can we add quiet to the boot parameters on the LiveCD and/or
desktop? Just because the verbose output may be unappealing to people.
2. I saw the donate and join desktop entries, which are great! Can we
also have an Install entry for Live mode?
3. The services screen from drakx's firstboot seems completely
unnecessary. Those services should probably be on by default anyway...
or triggered by systemd socket actvation, which IIRC Samba and CUPS
should fall into that category. Can we have that removed? I wonder if
it confuses users.
4. Should we update the installer slides to reflect the new artwork,
instead of a plain blue background? Could also be used to promote the
community.

Again, kudos!

-- 
cheers, Robert :: protocol.by/rxu