Hi Zhuoyao, I think first we need to decide the approach for this issue, either propose something new to SDC and have a fairly good chance not being able to implement in R1, or extend the existing SDC to support WAN for R1. If we can agree on this today, I think it would help us to prepare the proposals next week.
Thanks, -Yang From: huang.zhuo...@zte.com.cn [mailto:huang.zhuo...@zte.com.cn] Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 2:29 AM To: ds2...@att.com; Yang Xu (Yang, Fixed Network) Cc: meng.zhaoxi...@zte.com.cn; onap-discuss@lists.onap.org; yuan....@zte.com.cn; bo.kai...@zte.com.cn; feng.j...@zte.com.cn Subject: 答复: Fw:Re: [onap-discuss] [sdc][vfc] SDC questions from VF-C Hi, David and Yangxu I think ONAP has a different architecture from OPEN-O, it may be not suitable to use the TOSCA model directly from OPEN-O for ONAP. Besides, me and my ZTE colleague are working on a WAN descriptor based on ONAP architecture. I guess it would be pretty hard and unefficient to clarify all the detail of the WAN model in the ZOOM meeting. I suggest we'd better discuss this by email first. I believe the draft of ONAP based WAN model would be finished before next Monday, and we would send it on the email for further discussion as soon as possible. Thank you and best regards! 黄卓垚 huangzhuoyao 职位 position 承载网管开发部/有线研究院/有线产品经营部 Strategy & IT-IT Dept. [cid:image001.gif@01D3127A.582B5020] [cid:image002.gif@01D3127A.582B5020] 深圳市南山区科技南路55号中兴通讯研发大楼33楼 33/F, R&D Building, ZTE Corporation Hi-tech Road South, Hi-tech Industrial Park Nanshan District, Shenzhen, P..R.China, 518057 T: +86 755 xxxxxxxx F: +86 755 xxxxxxxx M: +86 xxxxxxxxxxx E: huang.zhuo...@zte.com.cn www.zte.com.cn<http://www.zte.com.cn/> 发件人: <yang....@huawei.com>; 收件人: <ds2...@att.com>;ZhangMaoPeng10030173; <ml6...@intl.att.com>; 抄送人: <onap-discuss@lists.onap.org>; <er4...@intl.att.com>; 日 期 :2017/08/10 22:36 主 题 :Re: [onap-discuss] [sdc][vfc] SDC questions from VF-C Hi David, Thanks for updating the table to include SDNC controller. Regarding the WAN service, as I pointed to you before, in the TOSCA example from Open-O sent by Huabin a while ago, there is a folder in that zip file called underlayL3VPN_2017_03_24/Definitions/. You can see a couple yaml files there for type definition. Please let us know if that’s good enough for you to design WAN service in SDC. We will have a meeting tomorrow (8/11) 10am EST, I’ll forward you the invite and hope you can help us solving the blocking issue. Thanks, -Yang From: SHADMI, DAVID [mailto:ds2...@att.com] Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 8:42 AM To: Yang Xu (Yang, Fixed Network); zhang.maope...@zte.com.cn; LANDO, MICHAEL Cc: onap-discuss@lists.onap.org; ROZIN, EDEN Subject: RE: [onap-discuss] [sdc][vfc] SDC questions from VF-C Hi Yang, I still haven’t seen the WAN service information and therefore can’t provide any comments about it. Here is the updated table based. See enclosed email for additional information. Service Type Category Controller Comment VoLTE Service Service No controller vIMS Service NS VFC New imperative BPMN flow which uses VFC vEPC Service NS VFC New imperative BPMN flow which uses VFC vFW/vLB, vCPE, WAN Service Service SDNC/HEAT Retain the existing OpenECOMP BPMN flow Thanks, David From: Yang Xu (Yang, Fixed Network) [mailto:yang....@huawei.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 11:44 PM To: SHADMI, DAVID <ds2...@att.com>; zhang.maope...@zte.com.cn; LANDO, MICHAEL <ml6...@intl.att.com> Cc: onap-discuss@lists.onap.org; ROZIN, EDEN <er4...@intl.att.com> Subject: RE: [onap-discuss] [sdc][vfc] SDC questions from VF-C Hi David, I missed Wednesday’s meeting due to some other conflict. Has WAN service been defined in SDC? I don’t see SDNC (the controller for WAN service) listed in the table: Service Type Category Orchestrator/Controller VoLTE Service E2E Service SO VFC vIMS Service NS VFC vEPC Service NS VFC vFW/vLB demo Service Service Heat vCPE or other service designed by SDC using declarative flow. Service All other Service Business as usual from SO perspective: SO is doing service and resource orchestration interfacing with SDNC/APPC/PO as needed APPC Could you finalize the WAN service details in SDC (i.e. how PNFs and WAN service defined in SDC)? Other modules are blocked by it. Thanks, -Yang From: onap-discuss-boun...@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-discuss-boun...@lists.onap.org> [mailto:onap-discuss-boun...@lists.onap.org] On Behalf Of SHADMI, DAVID Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 12:04 AM To: zhang.maope...@zte.com.cn<mailto:zhang.maope...@zte.com.cn>; LANDO, MICHAEL Cc: onap-discuss@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-discuss@lists.onap.org>; ROZIN, EDEN Subject: Re: [onap-discuss] [sdc][vfc] SDC questions from VF-C Hello, #2 - SDC is planning to allow onboarding VNFSDK0-validated TOSCA VNF packages in R1. Also, SDC is planning to add Open-O TOSCA types. #3 – @Michael – Could you please make sure we the node type definition file(s) for VF and Service exist in the wiki. @Maopeng - could you please elaborate more on the node type you would like to add. #5 – Please see enclosed email. Thanks, David From: zhang.maope...@zte.com.cn<mailto:zhang.maope...@zte.com.cn> [mailto:zhang.maope...@zte.com.cn] Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 9:15 PM To: LANDO, MICHAEL <ml6...@intl.att.com<mailto:ml6...@intl.att.com>>; SHADMI, DAVID <ds2...@att.com<mailto:ds2...@att.com>> Cc: yangya...@chinamobile.com<mailto:yangya...@chinamobile.com>; denglin...@chinamobile.com<mailto:denglin...@chinamobile.com>; meng.zhaoxi...@zte.com.cn<mailto:meng.zhaoxi...@zte.com.cn>; onap-discuss@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-discuss@lists.onap.org>; ROZIN, EDEN <er4...@intl.att.com<mailto:er4...@intl.att.com>> Subject: 答复: RE: RE: [sdc][vfc] SDC questions from VF-C hi micheal & david Thanks micheal Now many advices need David to answer. If the email can reply, it will be OK. Possible, meeting & email may be more effective way. The service package and vnf package CSAR in the SDC catalog, please share them. Thanks About the parser, VFC written in python can not use the java lib directly. Oneway: If in the SDC can provide the REST API & JSON output, it will be welcome for R1 The other way: the CSAR output of SDC follow the OASIS tosca simple profile, it can be parsed by other parsers. If the output is not standard, we need to know which part is not standard, and can it be fixed in the R1? Best Regards Maopeng 原始邮件 发件人: <ml6...@intl.att.com<mailto:ml6...@intl.att.com>>; 收件人:张茂鹏10030173; 抄送人: <yangya...@chinamobile.com<mailto:yangya...@chinamobile.com>>; <ds2...@att.com<mailto:ds2...@att.com>>; <denglin...@chinamobile.com<mailto:denglin...@chinamobile.com>>;孟照星10024238; <onap-discuss@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-discuss@lists.onap.org>>; <er4...@intl.att.com<mailto:er4...@intl.att.com>>; 日 期 :2017年08月10日 03:27 主 题 :RE: RE: [sdc][vfc] SDC questions from VF-C BR, Michael Lando Opensource & Frontend Team Lead, SDC AT&T Network Application Development · NetCom Tel Aviv | Tampa | Atlanta | New Jersey |Chicago ··········································································· Office: +972 (3) 5451487 Mobile: +972 (54) 7833603 e-mail: ml6...@intl.att.com<mailto:ml6...@intl.att.com> From: zhang.maope...@zte.com.cn<mailto:zhang.maope...@zte.com.cn> [mailto:zhang.maope...@zte.com.cn] Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 7:09 PM To: Lando,Michael <ml6...@intl.att.com<mailto:ml6...@intl.att.com>> Cc: yangya...@chinamobile.com<mailto:yangya...@chinamobile.com>; SHADMI, DAVID <ds2...@att.com<mailto:ds2...@att.com>>; denglin...@chinamobile.com<mailto:denglin...@chinamobile.com>; meng.zhaoxi...@zte.com.cn<mailto:meng.zhaoxi...@zte.com.cn>; onap-discuss@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-discuss@lists.onap.org> Subject: 答复: RE: [sdc][vfc] SDC questions from VF-C Hi Michael thanks for your reply. 1. For the api document, I really need more time to read it. For R1, the VFC team main funciton is to get the distributed Service CSAR and VF CSAR from SDC catalog. thanks. 2. About the VNF package, thanks for sharing the vFW/vDNS CSAR. Is the Tosca onboarding function release on R1? which tosca profile does the SDC follows in R1? does the VNF vendor need to follow it? thanks. [Michael: David please advise] 3. About the service package, please provide the CSAR example for R1. In the wiki page, SDC_TOSCA_AID_1710 document has no nodes definitions, such as service, VF, VL,etc. could you provide the nodes definition for R1 in the wiki? could SDC support adding new node type? such as VF, could we add a new VFXX extending from VF via SDC GUI, and not changing the SDC code? [Michael: David please advise] 4. Parser is also an issue. Now there are many parsers. but which one can match the SDC output? is the SDC output CSAR align with OASIS tosca simple profile 1.0? Could the SDC parser provide the REST API? [Michael: the SDC parser can match our output I cannot speak for the other parsers. The SDC parser comes in the form of a jar that you will need to integrate as a library into your code so no rest api is needed here] 5. The NS package questions about VL and parameter controlinfo and vnfminfo, please DAVID help me. [Michael: David please advise] If possible, I will reserve a zoom meeting in 21:00 2017/810 (UTC+8). I can prepare an slide from VFC side and needs the SDC team help us. [MIcheal: what would you need from us for this call?] Thanks Maopeng 发件人: <ml6...@intl.att.com<mailto:ml6...@intl.att.com>>; 收件人:张茂鹏10030173; <yangya...@chinamobile.com<mailto:yangya...@chinamobile.com>>; <ds2...@att.com<mailto:ds2...@att.com>>; 抄送人: <denglin...@chinamobile.com<mailto:denglin...@chinamobile.com>>;孟照星10024238; <onap-discuss@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-discuss@lists.onap.org>>; 日 期 :2017年08月09日 20:00 主 题 :RE: [sdc][vfc] SDC questions from VF-C BR, Michael Lando Opensource & Frontend Team Lead, SDC AT&T Network Application Development · NetCom Tel Aviv | Tampa | Atlanta | New Jersey |Chicago ··········································································· Office: +972 (3) 5451487 Mobile: +972 (54) 7833603 e-mail: ml6...@intl.att.com<mailto:ml6...@intl.att.com> From: zhang.maope...@zte.com.cn<mailto:zhang.maope...@zte.com.cn> [mailto:zhang.maope...@zte.com.cn] Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 2:05 PM To: yangya...@chinamobile.com<mailto:yangya...@chinamobile.com>; Lando,Michael <ml6...@intl.att.com<mailto:ml6...@intl.att.com>>; SHADMI, DAVID <ds2...@att.com<mailto:ds2...@att.com>> Cc: denglin...@chinamobile.com<mailto:denglin...@chinamobile.com>; meng.zhaoxi...@zte.com.cn<mailto:meng.zhaoxi...@zte.com.cn>; onap-discuss@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-discuss@lists.onap.org> Subject: 答复: [sdc][vfc] SDC questions from VF-C Hi Michael & David & Yan, I refesh the questions, and hope the SDC team can give some answers. I also think we need an meeting to discuss these issues. Thanks. In SDC API document, we didn’t see the registration and notification API ,can you provide this API for us. [Maopeng ] thanks for micheal share the document, https://wiki.onap.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=11929307<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.onap.org_pages_viewpage.action-3FpageId-3D11929307&d=DwMGaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=FYvXSElfSmWIXOeZxWIxQysejuz9-TXmaL6uftBh8MY&m=uJND4m1oNEI0RFpacCzxVywElxL1N8f-hcYOCwMyml4&s=BO0Yo_OpMnHpvuLXRXc4qal5EQoXcEJWh_NGKQNLWMQ&e=> we will review it and It is very complicated api document. If Micheal can give an example to the VFC team, it will be great for the whole team. [Michael] I can give an explanation after you review the document. If you can provide me in advance what exactly are you interested in I will be able to prepper for the meeting. [Maopeng] There are two ways to get the package from the SDC: one is by the distribution api; the other is by the catalog api. For R1, the distribution api is dependon the client How does the SDC Resource / Service Categories fits to the VoLTE case? for exmaple spgw/ims etc in which Categories/subCategory? [Maopeng ] Service categories can be defined by the administrator via the GUI. I think if we need new categories or subcategories, we can add it via the GUI. Right? [MIchael] categories can be add using the UI but that will mean that for each new system you will need to manually add them. The correct approach for this is to add them to our pre load script so that on startup the configuration will be available. 2. VNF package We want to know the VNF CSAR package format exported from SDC, can you give us an example, we want to confirm whether the package has some format restrictions. [Maopeng ] In the R1, VNFSDK bundles a VNF package, and import to the SDC. VFC get the VNF package from the SDC catalog. Is the VNF package defined in the VNFSDK or SDC for R1? What's the VNF package format for VFC in R1? [Michael] since we are now still developing the Tosca onboarding I cannot provide you the exact output. I can share an example of the CSAR we currently create for the vFW/vDNS use case. [maopeng] OK, thanks for sharing the vFW/vDNS CSAR. Is the Tosca onboarding function release on R1? which tosca profile does the SDC follows in R1? does the VNF vendor need to follow it? thanks. 2. NS package Whether to support ELAN VL, which can be shared among VNFs. [Maopeng ] now the SDC supports VL, but it is automatically produced. Now I can design the Eline type VL, but for the VoLTE case , we need multiple VNFs share one VL. what's the automatic rule of VL creating? How to design it? could you show with us. thanks. [Michael: David can you respond?] Whether the metadata can be extended, from VF-C side we need some fields ,such as controlinfo, vnfminfo,..etc, so we want to know Whether SDC support metadata extension [Maopeng ] In VoLTE case we need the conrollerinfo in service to identify the NS and need the VNFM info in VF to identify the SVNFM. If the SDC team can add the parameter in the metadata, it will be useful for the VFC team. In the meeting of SO and SDC, DAVID suggests use the category parameter of metadata. It can work, but not clear for user. [Michael: David can you assist?] Best Regards Maopeng 原始邮件 发件人: <yangya...@chinamobile.com<mailto:yangya...@chinamobile.com>>; 收件人: <ml6...@intl.att.com<mailto:ml6...@intl.att.com>>;张茂鹏10030173; <denglin...@chinamobile.com<mailto:denglin...@chinamobile.com>>;孟照星10024238; <onap-discuss@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-discuss@lists.onap.org>>; 日 期 :2017年08月08日 18:13 主 题 :[sdc][vfc] SDC questions from VF-C Hi Michael, VF-C team has some issues that need to be confirmed by SDC team. 1. About SDC API(This has been listed in the blokers wiki page) In SDC API document, we didn’t see the registration and notification API ,can you provide this API for us. How does the SDC Resource / Service Categories fits to the VoLTE case? for exmaple spgw/ims etc in which Categories/subCategory? 2. VNF package We want to know the VNF CSAR package format exported from SDC, can you give us an example, we want to confirm whether the package has some format restrictions. 2. NS package Whether to support ELAN VL, which can be shared among VNFs. Whether the metadata can be extended, from VF-C side we need some fields ,such as controlinfo, vnfminfo,..etc, so we want to know Whether SDC support metadata extension Whether the NS package exported from SDC support TOSCA simple profile and standard, we want to confirm that these packages can be handled by parsers. Hopefully we can get feedback from SDC team asap. If you want to know more details about these questions, we can also set a conf call. I suggest one time on Wednesday UTC 12:00/China 20:00. If you think it’s ok, I will send an invitation to you. Best Regards, Yan
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