Re: Time for the ASF to send an Open Letter?

2011-12-18 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: --- Sab 17/12/11, Michael Meeks ha scritto:     Sure - if it is easier for us to include an existing feature, under an acceptable license into LibreOffice why would we bother re-writing it ? conversely if it is easier

Re: OpenOffice.org on Wikipedias in various languages

2011-12-18 Thread FR web forum
OK. Now I encourage you to check the following pages. It's fun and very interesting to see what kind of OpenOffice.org logos they use on their pages. http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org For french tongue, this page is kept to historical reasons. Now, a new one has been created and named

FAQs for AOO

2011-12-18 Thread Jean Weber
There are quite a lot of existing FAQs on the OOo wiki. Someone was organising and sorting them and (I think) working through them doing updates. (I have no idea if that someone is still around.) Anyone wanting to work on FAQs should probably become familiar with what's already there (at least in

AOO How-tos

2011-12-18 Thread Jean Weber
Similar to my note about the FAQs, there is a collection of how-tos on the OOo wiki. These also need to be checked to see if they are out of date. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/How_Tos That page is also a good place to check if you're thinking of writing a how-to; perhaps

Re: OpenOffice.org on Wikipedias in various languages

2011-12-18 Thread Kazunari Hirano
Hi FR, Thanks. On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 7:51 PM, FR web forum ooofo...@free.fr wrote: For french tongue, this page is kept to historical reasons. Now, a new one has been created and named Apache OpenOffice http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/ApacheOpenOffice I see.

Re: Cleanup of Docs section of OOo wiki?

2011-12-18 Thread Jean Weber
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 12:19, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 11:40, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Jean, On Dec 17, 2011, at 8:12 PM, Jean Weber wrote: I could potentially do the same on the Docs portion of the migrated OOo website, if it's ready

Re: OpenOffice.org on Wikipedias in various languages

2011-12-18 Thread Kazunari Hirano
Hi all, I have found Simple English Wikipedia. http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_English_Wikipedia It has OpenOffice.org article. http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org Maybe we have to tell them first about Apache OpenOffice. :) Thanks, khirano

Re: Cleanup of Docs section of OOo wiki?

2011-12-18 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 2011-12-18 7:01 AM, Jean Weber wrote: ...snip... Just checking: when editing am I supposed to be in the raw HTML? (This isn't a problem; I actually prefer to edit in the code. I'm just checking that I'm not missing something.) It depends. When editing, you'll be editing the checked-in

Re: [BUILD]AOO build error in solaris

2011-12-18 Thread L'oiseau de mer
Thank you very much, this part i still build and deal with it. Now i first report another problem,when i arrive the step that make packages. It appear this message:(This is another build machine (solaris 11 express)) i check this dir unxsoli4.pro/OpenOffice/pkg/install/en-US_witherror/packages/ it

Re: [BUILD]AOO build error in solaris

2011-12-18 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi L'oiseau de mer, On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 09:21:03PM +0800, L'oiseau de mer wrote: Thank you very much, this part i still build and deal with it. Now i first report another problem,when i arrive the step that make packages. It appear this message:(This is another build machine (solaris 11

Re: [BUILD]AOO build error in solaris

2011-12-18 Thread L'oiseau de mer
I use version 4.2. from here to download and install: http://www.epmhome.org/software.php Ok,thanks, i continue tying.. 2011/12/18 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org: Hi L'oiseau de mer, On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 09:21:03PM +0800, L'oiseau de mer wrote: Thank you very much, this part

Re: Cleanup of Docs section of OOo wiki?

2011-12-18 Thread Dave Fisher
On Dec 18, 2011, at 8:20 AM, Shane Curcuru wrote: On 2011-12-18 7:01 AM, Jean Weber wrote: ...snip... Just checking: when editing am I supposed to be in the raw HTML? (This isn't a problem; I actually prefer to edit in the code. I'm just checking that I'm not missing something.) It

Re: OpenOffice.org on Wikipedias in various languages

2011-12-18 Thread Kazunari Hirano
Hi all, I have found a great feature of the Wikipedia. If you take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org you will find Languages section on the left-hand side menu. It lists 73 languages whose wikipedia page have OpenOffice.org article. 1 Afrikaans 2 Alemannisch 3

Re: Off topic

2011-12-18 Thread Graham Lauder
On Friday 16 Dec 2011 12:03:53 Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: snip The evidence actually reveals the complete opposite. A vast vibrant community with all the tension and foibles that brings with it, that produced, marketed

Re: A timeline for an Apache OO release

2011-12-18 Thread Guenter Marxen
Am 18.12.2011 01:06, schrieb Jean Weber: On 18/12/2011, at 7:58, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: The user is free to pick another directory at install time, right? So they can make the choice that works best for them. My (often faulty) memory of recent OOo installs on Windows is that

Re: Off topic

2011-12-18 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 16 Dec 2011 12:03:53 Rob Weir wrote: snip Well, that corporate subsidy is gone.  The question is how we can create a sustainable model for this project.  What worked before, based on corporate charity, is not

Re:Off topic

2011-12-18 Thread Ross Gardler
if this thread is to continue can we return to the original point... Ian: look even 15 year old schoolkids do really cool stuff Louis: yeah, we need to empower everyone That sounds like a great message to me. Our job is to decide how in the future, not endlesdly debate the past Ross (yes, I

Re: Time for the ASF to send an Open Letter?

2011-12-18 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Dom 18/12/11, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com ha scritto: ... On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: --- Sab 17/12/11, Michael Meeks ha scritto:     Sure - if it is easier for us to include an existing feature, under an acceptable license

Re: Off topic

2011-12-18 Thread Ian Lynch
On 18 December 2011 14:57, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 16 Dec 2011 12:03:53 Rob Weir wrote: snip In other words you think my views are heretical. No, they are a political perspective dressed up as

Re: Off topic

2011-12-18 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 December 2011 14:57, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 16 Dec 2011 12:03:53 Rob Weir wrote: snip In other words you think my

Re: AOO How-tos

2011-12-18 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 6:37 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: Similar to my note about the FAQs, there is a collection of how-tos on the OOo wiki. These also need to be checked to see if they are out of date. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/How_Tos That page

Re: A timeline for an Apache OO release

2011-12-18 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: On 18/12/2011, at 9:56, Allen Pulsifer apulsi...@apache.org wrote: The Apache OpenOffice (incubating) project has tentatively identified the first quarter of 2012 for a Version 3.4 release. I think I would prefer

Re: Off topic

2011-12-18 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: snip Well one thing that definitely didn't work in the past was alienating community members with ill-thought out arguments no matter how logical those arguments might appear to an individual. The community is made of

Re: Off topic

2011-12-18 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 13:31:19 -0500 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: snip Well one thing that definitely didn't work in the past was alienating community members with ill-thought out arguments no matter how

Re: Off topic

2011-12-18 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 13:31:19 -0500 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: snip Well one thing that definitely didn't work in the past was alienating

RE: Cleanup of Docs section of OOo wiki?

2011-12-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Jean, Backing up a little. A sketch of the situation just in case there are blanks that need to be filled in [;). I think you may already be familiar with all of this, but I want to make sure your question is answered in context. The way the site is to be maintained, it starts on SVN first

Re: Cleanup of Docs section of OOo wiki?

2011-12-18 Thread Joe Schaefer
Ah no. Jean is trying to get a feel for the web interface to the documentation.  Jean, the typical workflow is to go to the live document on the ooo-site.apache.org page, then click on the ASF CMS bookmarklet you installed from the cms.apache.org site.  That will take you (after maybe a minute

[OT] Use of the GPL under fast decline

2011-12-18 Thread Pedro Giffuni
JIC you missed it in Slashdot: http://www.itworld.com/it-managementstrategy/233753/gpl-copyleft-use-declining-faster-ever Quoting the article: ... I don't think projects are moving away from GPL, but that new vendors are choosing community approaches enabled by permissive licenses, rather than

Re: Off topic

2011-12-18 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 14:48:39 -0500 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Rory O'Farrell Quite honestly I am astounded at the amount of infighting and petty point-scoring that goes on on the Apache OpenOffice lists.  Are you grown, rational beings, or sub

Re: Off topic

2011-12-18 Thread Jean Weber
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 05:48, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 13:31:19 -0500 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: snip Well

Re: Off topic

2011-12-18 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 05:48, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 13:31:19 -0500 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Dec

Re: Time for the ASF to send an Open Letter?

2011-12-18 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 17/12/2011 eric b wrote: the french version pretends Apache OpenOffice.org ( http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org ) is a fork We probably should take an eye on the Italian and the German versions. The Italian one has a terse but accurate description. Regards, Andrea.

Re: PNG Security Vulnerability fixed in 3.3.0

2011-12-18 Thread tora - Takamichi Akiyama
Marcus, Thank you for your reply. On 12/18/2011 10:09 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: *IMHO* to create a patch or update for OpenOffice.org and to guarantee the binary compatibility, you need to use the original environment for developing, builing, testing. That is right! Even so, there are some

Re: OpenOffice.org on Wikipedias in various languages

2011-12-18 Thread eric b
Hi, Le 18 déc. 11 à 11:51, FR web forum a écrit : OK. Now I encourage you to check the following pages. It's fun and very interesting to see what kind of OpenOffice.org logos they use on their pages. http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org For french tongue, this page is kept to

Re: PNG Security Vulnerability fixed in 3.3.0

2011-12-18 Thread tora - Takamichi Akiyama
Pedro, Thank you for your reply. --- Ven 16/12/11, tora - Takamichi Akiyamat...@openoffice.org ha scritto: Why not 3.3.0? They say 3.2.1 is conceptually stabler than 3.3.0 since 3.2.1 is a minor, bug-fixed version while 3.3.0 is a major version. On 12/18/2011 10:29 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:

Re: PNG Security Vulnerability fixed in 3.3.0

2011-12-18 Thread eric b
Hi, Le 18 déc. 11 à 22:33, tora - Takamichi Akiyama a écrit : They do not really need new functionality of office suite. What they really need is the software on which they can do their daily work. In other words, I am typing this email on my Windows XP laptop. I know Windows Vista and

RE: Off topic

2011-12-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I'm reluctant to add any chaff to the threads that are running around here. Yet, related to Jean's point, it is important to internalize that here in Apache territory, forking is a feature, not a failure. It might be a failure of someone's ambitions, but that is for them to sort out. Adopting

Re: OpenOffice.org on Wikipedias in various languages

2011-12-18 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 1:34 PM, eric b eric.bach...@free.fr wrote: Hi, Le 18 déc. 11 à 11:51, FR web forum a écrit : OK. Now I encourage you to check the following pages. It's fun and very interesting to see what kind of OpenOffice.org logos they use on their pages.

Re: Build flags

2011-12-18 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Could we agree on some place where we can post what build flags we're using? If we really want to avoid build breakages, I think we need to start building in the same way. This includes our desk builds, but also the

Re: OpenOffice.org on Wikipedias in various languages

2011-12-18 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: snip Eric-- Register and get a WP account and fix it! :) You don't even need an account. Anyone can edit a Wikipedia article. However, inserting a point of view regarding what is and isn't a 'fork is not something that

Re: Help! JunitTest_framework_unoapi.mk:28: *** Malformed target-specific variable definition. Stop.

2011-12-18 Thread Michael Stahl
On 16/12/11 18:24, Mathias Bauer wrote: On 16.12.2011 03:43, Zhe Liu wrote: Hi All, I always break because of the error when build on Windows XP. I mentioned before, nobody responsed on it. I did a little search and found someone also encountered the problem. I still have no clue how to

Re: gnumake4 integration (was: Re: [Code] strategy for child works spaces)

2011-12-18 Thread Michael Stahl
On 17/12/11 06:27, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: This way we can use branches/gbuild to create further feature branches for gbuild conversion that can not be done on trunk directly (here I can imagine the desktop module, for example). errm, yes, converting the desktop module on master (not on a

Re: Help! JunitTest_framework_unoapi.mk:28: *** Malformed target-specific variable definition. Stop.

2011-12-18 Thread Mathias Bauer
Am 19.12.2011 00:19, schrieb Michael Stahl: On 16/12/11 18:24, Mathias Bauer wrote: On 16.12.2011 03:43, Zhe Liu wrote: Hi All, I always break because of the error when build on Windows XP. I mentioned before, nobody responsed on it. I did a little search and found someone also encountered

Support page of website - work planned

2011-12-18 Thread Jean Weber
I am going to update the support page (currently at http://ooo-site.apache.org/support/index.html). FYI, here is what I intend to do. (If there is a place on the planning wiki for this info, I'll put it there too.) * Check all the links and remove or correct any out of date ones. * Remove all

RE: Support page of website - work planned

2011-12-18 Thread Gavin McDonald
-Original Message- From: Jean Weber [mailto:jeanwe...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 10:35 AM To: OOo-dev Apache Incubator Subject: Support page of website - work planned I am going to update the support page (currently at http://ooo-

Re: Off topic

2011-12-18 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 2011-12-15 6:03 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Graham Lauderg.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: snip The evidence actually reveals the complete opposite. A vast vibrant community with all the tension and foibles that brings with it, that produced, marketed and distributed

Re: Support page of website - work planned

2011-12-18 Thread Jean Weber
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 11:00, Gavin McDonald ga...@16degrees.com.au wrote: -Original Message- From: Jean Weber [mailto:jeanwe...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 10:35 AM To: OOo-dev Apache Incubator Subject: Support page of website - work planned I am going to update the

Re: Support page of website - work planned

2011-12-18 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Jean, Great! Thanks for the heads up. I did tweak that page in the last 24 hours. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone On Dec 18, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: I am going to update the support page (currently at http://ooo-site.apache.org/support/index.html). FYI,

Re: [BUILD]AOO build error in solaris

2011-12-18 Thread L'oiseau de mer
Build Success in Solaris 10 with binfilter. I modify this file main/solenv/inc/unxsoli4.mk in line 47: ARCH_FLAGS*=-features=rvalueref = But i also modify these file for building pass.

Re: [BUILD]AOO build error in solaris

2011-12-18 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi, I can fix No. 2, but No. 1 doesnt seem right. Maybe there is a related patch in Solaris repositories? Alternatively you could use the system python. Cheers, Pedro. --- Dom 18/12/11, L'oiseau de mer oiseau...@gmail.com ha scritto: Da: L'oiseau de mer oiseau...@gmail.com Oggetto: Re:

What do we want to do with spam on lists?

2011-12-18 Thread Rob Weir
Some spam on the ooo-users list this evening: http://markmail.org/message/hqvtj76howq5kmjv The poster is subscribed to the list. This was not moderated in. What do we want moderators to do in this case? Warn the user? Unsubscribe them? We should probably have a common understanding about how

Re: What do we want to do with spam on lists?

2011-12-18 Thread Jean Weber
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 12:42, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Some spam on the ooo-users list this evening: http://markmail.org/message/hqvtj76howq5kmjv The poster is subscribed to the list.  This was not moderated in. What do we want moderators to do in this case? Warn the user?

Re: What do we want to do with spam on lists?

2011-12-18 Thread TJ Frazier
On 12/18/2011 21:55, Jean Weber wrote: On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 12:42, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: Some spam on the ooo-users list this evening: http://markmail.org/message/hqvtj76howq5kmjv The poster is subscribed to the list. This was not moderated in. What do we want moderators to

RE: What do we want to do with spam on lists?

2011-12-18 Thread Gavin McDonald
-Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 12:42 PM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: What do we want to do with spam on lists? Some spam on the ooo-users list this evening: http://markmail.org/message/hqvtj76howq5kmjv

RE: What do we want to do with spam on lists?

2011-12-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I took care of it as soon as I saw it (after being away all day and returning about an hour ago). The user is unsubscribed. Unsubscribing an user is not the same as banning. Subscription requests are not moderated on ooo-users, so there is not much else to do instead. My only concern is how

Re: Pootle (was Re: About the Former Native Language projects)

2011-12-18 Thread Dwayne Bailey
On 2011-12-16 07:07, Dave Fisher wrote: On Dec 14, 2011, at 7:38 AM, Dwayne Bailey wrote: On 2011-12-13 23:49, Gavin McDonald wrote: -Original Message- From: Ross Gardler [mailto:rgard...@opendirective.com] Sent: Wednesday, 14 December 2011 12:39 AM To:

Re: [BUILD]AOO build error in solaris

2011-12-18 Thread Andrew Rist
On 12/18/2011 5:54 PM, L'oiseau de mer wrote: Build Success in Solaris 10 with binfilter. Can you share your complete build 'recipe' for Solaris? - What is the full version of you OS and what packages have you added in order to build AOO? - What are the exact commands you run to build? -

Re: PNG Security Vulnerability fixed in 3.3.0

2011-12-18 Thread Herbert Duerr
On 12/18/2011 10:33 PM, tora - Takamichi Akiyama wrote: Again, does anyone know any information or the best person to contact? CVE-2010-4253 Security Vulnerability in OpenOffice.org related to PNG file processing http://www.openoffice.org/security/cves/CVE-2010-4253.html I identified the

Re: PNG Security Vulnerability fixed in 3.3.0

2011-12-18 Thread tora - Takamichi Akiyama
Hi Herbert, On 12/19/2011 3:24 PM, Herbert Duerr wrote: CVE-2010-4253 Security Vulnerability in OpenOffice.org related to PNG file processing http://www.openoffice.org/security/cves/CVE-2010-4253.html I identified the relevant patch and sent it to Tora. Thanks a lot! Tora