Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-01 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Ross; I don't think it's "my turn" since my issues remain unresolved. However let me recap: 1) I think just having patches that can or cannot be applied to category-B licensed code is OK as long as it is not the default. 2) I don't think we are allowed to distribute source tarballs in subve

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-01 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Ven 1/6/12, Rob Weir ha scritto: ... > > > > And computers need electricity, which is not free and > > not available under a compatible license. I wish you > > could keep focused or at least do an effort to > > understand the issues so we can solve them. > > > > Be nice. > Couldn't resist

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-01 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Ugh ... --- Ven 1/6/12, Rob Weir ha scritto: ... > > No release is buildable on its own.  You need an > operating system, a compiler, often other pre-existing > libraries on the system, other prerequisites that need > to be installed by the developers. > And computers need electricity, which

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-01 Thread Pedro Giffuni
rom there. That would mean a further huge burden to make the development for AOO more complicate. I hope this helps Juergen On 6/1/12 11:07 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: On 1 June 2012 09:50, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 6/1/12 9:47 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: Sent from my mobile device, please forgiv

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-01 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Jürgen; On 06/01/12 03:16, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 5/31/12 6:26 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: ... First of all we should clarify what a source release is in this context. Does our source release contain Category-A tarballs? In other words, does this file: http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-05-31 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Jürgen; Let me clarify some issues too ... On 05/31/12 10:39, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: ... let me explain some details here because I think they can help to understand. 1. we have dependencies to several external libraries including category-b for some features 2. we have checked in all this s

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-05-30 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Mer 30/5/12, Rob Weir ha scritto: > > > > So *NOW* you are admitting that those tarballs are > part > > of the Release?? > > > > Not at all.  But they are referenced from build > files.  I hope this distinction is clear. No. If they are just referenced then we don't depend on having them

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-05-30 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Oh boy ... --- Mer 30/5/12, Rob Weir ha scritto: ... > > You can copy the category-b binaries someplace else, but you > must not remove the ones that are already here.  Otherwise you > will break not only the buildbots, but you will also break > every one who has downloaded the source from our

Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-05-30 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Thanks Andre! On 05/30/12 04:34, Andre Fischer wrote: ... But the binary builds have to come from somewhere. Unless we want to drop the features for which we need category-B libraries then making it harder to build them is IMHO not the right way to go. But maybe moving the offending librari

Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process

2012-05-30 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Mer 30/5/12, Louis Suárez-Potts ha scritto: > > On 2012-05-30, at 11:05 , Pedro Giffuni wrote: > > > > > I will do this next week. I will probably use Apache > extras and > > at a later time we could leave there the old GPL'd > stuff too >

Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process

2012-05-30 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Andre; --- Mer 30/5/12, Andre Fischer ha scritto: ... > > > > The idea that we have remaining issues with Category-B > > tarballs in the tree has been around since before the > > release, and one of our mentors (Ross I recall) did > > acknowledge my point of view. > > > > I did offer to step

Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process

2012-05-29 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; --- Mar 29/5/12, sebb ha scritto: ... > > > > This is admittedly a stop gap solution to comply > > better with the Apache policies, the real fix would > > be to work collectively on replacing the code that > > can be replaced: > > Alternatively, it is possible to include cat B [1] > depende

Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process

2012-05-29 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Mar 29/5/12, Rob Weir ha scritto: ... > > > > The idea that we have remaining issues with Category-B > > tarballs in the tree has been around since before the > > release, and one of our mentors (Ross I recall) did > > acknowledge my point of view. > > > > Again, I don't see an issue here. 

Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process

2012-05-29 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Dave; --- Mar 29/5/12, Dave Fisher ha scritto: ... > > There are issues with these embedded convenience packages. > > (1) Some are Category B. An issue to some more than others. > > (2) Some are patched versions of existing open-source > packages. We should attempt to push these upstream. T

Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process

2012-05-29 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Drew; --- Mar 29/5/12, drew ha scritto: > > >> >> >> >> Yes the situation was specifically postponed as a graduation >> >> issue, I am not going through that discussion again. >> >> >> >> I made a concrete proposal with two alternatives: >> >> >> >> - They are moved to a friendly ftp/http s

Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process

2012-05-28 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Lun 28/5/12, Rob Weir ha scritto: > But just to be clear, if it is found out, after > investigation, that what we're doing is within > Apache policies, will you still oppose this? > If it were declared by legal to be OK, of course I wouldn't oppose. It is not really in my agenda to have

Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process

2012-05-28 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 05/28/12 15:42, Rob Weir wrote: I won't spend any more energy on the issue but feel free to do all the consultations you want, and don't take the second alternative as a threat. How should I take it then? It's something that has to be sorted out, and in lack of a specific response my sug

Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process

2012-05-28 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 05/28/12 15:00, Rob Weir wrote: ... Yes the situation was specifically postponed as a graduation issue, I am not going through that discussion again. I made a concrete proposal with two alternatives: - They are moved to a friendly ftp/http site. - I step down from the PPMC to avoid the com

Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process

2012-05-28 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 05/28/12 14:25, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hi Rob; On 05/28/12 13:10, Rob Weir wrote: I'd like to start the graduation process, with the aim of being a TLP in time for the 3.4.1 release. The IPMC has a "Guide to Successful Graduation&

Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process

2012-05-28 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Rob; On 05/28/12 13:10, Rob Weir wrote: I'd like to start the graduation process, with the aim of being a TLP in time for the 3.4.1 release. The IPMC has a "Guide to Successful Graduation" page with a lot of detail and advice: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html The calendar

Re: Incorrect Information About AOO 3.4

2012-05-27 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Bah.. Drew got ahead of me :-P. Guy, perhaps you can help us clean this old database? http://www.openoffice.org/fr/Marketing/entreprises.html#france just let me know what to drop, I feel like grinding my axe today ;). Pedro. On 05/27/12 06:23, Guy Waterval wrote: Hi Dave, Hi all, 2012/5/27

Re: Incorrect Information About AOO 3.4

2012-05-27 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Dom 27/5/12, Guy Waterval ha scritto: > There are other problems of this type, for instance, the fr > webpage of the > AOO project : > > http://www.openoffice.org/fr/ > > You will see a link "Boutique OpenOffice.org", pointing to > the fr OOo.org former store, now in the hands of LibO :

Re: OpenSolaris/Illumos intel GCC port

2012-05-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 05/24/12 20:20, Rich Reynolds wrote: hi all - anyone know of the above port happening? rich I don't think so. My understanding is that gcc was never well supported on Solaris. We have seen reports of success (after minor changes) with Sun's compiler though. Cheers, Pedro.

Re: LibreOffice relicensing efforts

2012-05-23 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 05/23/12 14:58, Donald Whytock wrote: Um, guys? As this concerns a LibreOffice webpage over which the AOO committers largely have no control, is it better to have this argument here or on a LibreOffice-related list? Don Hmm.. yes that was my last comment :). (back to coding) Pedro.

Re: LibreOffice relicensing efforts

2012-05-23 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 05/23/12 11:49, Michael Meeks wrote: Hi Pedro, On Wed, 2012-05-23 at 10:36 -0500, Pedro Giffuni wrote: There are no details of the relicensing process but doesn't look very clean to me: - They are basically assuming that OOo 3.3.x (where they started has been relicensed under ALv2, whi

Re: [WWW] What to do with OOo related domains?

2012-05-23 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 05/23/12 11:21, Andrew Rist wrote: As part of the transfer of the web properties of OOo to the ASF, the set of related domains has also been offered to ASF. We (PPMC) need to decide what we want to do with the related domains. There are three obvious options available to us: * Ignore and

Re: LibreOffice relicensing efforts

2012-05-23 Thread Pedro Giffuni
FWIW, And with the traditional IANAL disclaimer: On 05/23/12 08:43, Shane Curcuru wrote: In case folks haven't seen this: http://legal-discuss.markmail.org/thread/mleqsm636zf5fqia Which points to: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Relicensing There are no details of the

Re: Apache license (invariant section)

2012-05-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Well ... Instead of changing the license to suit your wishes I would suggest using another Category-A license for your contribution: ASL 1.1, for example. best regards, Pedro. --- Mar 22/5/12, Guy Waterval ha scritto: > Hi all, > > Can anyone tell me if the Apache license allows, for a > doc

Re: Please review trial load of Symphony dumpfile

2012-05-21 Thread Pedro Giffuni
d the code :). cheers, Pedro. On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hi; I looked at it briefly and it was nice to see it already has some of the AOO 3.4 enhancements. I also noticed icu has been updated which is great. This is very exciting ... thanks IBM! Pedro. --- Dom 20

Re: Linux install issues

2012-05-21 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 05/20/12 11:14, Kay Schenk wrote: On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hi Dennis; --- Sab 19/5/12, Dennis E. Hamilton ha scritto: ... One enduring solution would be to break with the past and not use the same file names for the binary bits, the same registry keys, etc

Re: Please review trial load of Symphony dumpfile

2012-05-20 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; I looked at it briefly and it was nice to see it already has some of the AOO 3.4 enhancements. I also noticed icu has been updated which is great. This is very exciting ... thanks IBM! Pedro. --- Dom 20/5/12, Rob Weir ha scritto: > The JIRA issue for loading the > Symphony dump is here: >

Re: [EXT] LanguageTool extension may be included in AOO?

2012-05-20 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Dom 20/5/12, win ha scritto: > On 05/20/2012 05:55 PM, Ariel > Constenla-Haile wrote: > > Hi Marco, > > > > On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 05:09:11PM +0100, Marco > A.G.Pinto wrote: > >> Hello! > >> > >> I was wondering if the extension "LanguageTool" ( > >> http://www.languagetool.org ) could b

Re: Dealing with a large and diverse project - Native Languages and project teams

2012-05-20 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello guys.. very interesting discussion. I am new to OpenOffice.org and indeed new to Apache and I am basically the result of both organizations coming together. On 05/20/12 16:11, Paulo de Souza Lima wrote: ... Keep in mind the following: OpenOffice.org community has passed through a traumat

RE: Linux install issues

2012-05-19 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Sab 19/5/12, Dennis E. Hamilton ha scritto: > Better for who?  [;<) > Power users that may want, for example, to run two different Office suites at the same time. :-P. Pedro. > -Original Message----- > From: Pedro Giffuni [mailto:p...@apache.org] > Sent: Saturda

Re: [PATCH] Additional chart data point symbols

2012-05-19 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Sab 19/5/12, Regina Henschel ha scritto: ... > Hi, > > I have attached the patch to > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=3582. > > If someone might look at it? > > I'll try to push it myself, but need some guide, see other > mail. > Don't be afraid to give it a try .. we like t

RE: Linux install issues

2012-05-19 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Dennis; --- Sab 19/5/12, Dennis E. Hamilton ha scritto: ... > One enduring solution would be to > break with the past and not use the same file names for the > binary bits, the same registry keys, etc., any longer.  A better solution is to move to FreeBSD or PC-BSD :). Pedro.

Re: Need guide for my first 'push'

2012-05-19 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Sab 19/5/12, Ariel Constenla-Haile ha scritto: ... > Hi Dennis, > > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 11:24:22AM -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton > wrote: > > I see that you submitted the patch. > > > > There is no way to do commits to Apache OpenOffice via > > GIT. > > sorry but that's not true: I've been

Re: [DISCUSS] Remove old bugs.

2012-05-18 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 05/18/12 15:52, Kayo Hamid wrote: From ooo-qa. We can see a lot old bugs on issues.apache.org. Can we begin removing? It's a key thing for project? I volunteer to this. Eg, https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=4549 (10 years old) +1

Re: MediaWiki update (was Re: Dealing with a large and diverse project - Native Languages and project teams)

2012-05-18 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Drew; --- Ven 18/5/12, drew ha scritto: ... > > > > I opened a JIRA issue: > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4816 > > > > I think infra has actually no obligation to work > > on this as MW is not officially supported here. I > > even volunteered to help but I actually don'

MediaWiki update (was Re: Dealing with a large and diverse project - Native Languages and project teams)

2012-05-18 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello; --- Ven 18/5/12, Paulo de Souza Lima ha scritto: ... > > > But what do you want to do? > > > > I want to upgrade Mediawiki to MW 1.19.x or, if it's not > possible, at least to 1.17.4, and install some useful > extensions. This shall not impact any actual function, > but will provide us to

Re: hi (BZ 112701)

2012-05-17 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello bo.tian Welcome! --- Gio 17/5/12, bo.tian ha scritto: > > Hi, I am a loyal user of Openoffice.org.I am working for > cs2c now. > I am very glad to be a "bugkiller" here,making AOO better to > use. > I come up with a fix of Issue112701. > click here to see the patch: > https://issues.apa

Re: [WWW] AOOo french website

2012-05-17 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 05/11/12 17:40, Hagar Delest wrote: Le sam. 12 mai 2012 00:07:35 CEST, Pedro Giffuni a écrit : I would suggest: "User community support forum for Apache OpenOffice and all the OpenOffice.org derivatives" There's no need to favor any particular fork. This was my first

R: Outdated wiki content

2012-05-17 Thread Pedro Giffuni
I don't really use WikiMedia but you may want to add this page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Optimization_Solver That code was never part of OpenOffice and may be lead to confusion wrt to the new solver code. best regards, Pedro. --- Gio 17/5/12, Paulo de Souza Lima ha scritto:

Re: questions about the "porting" project

2012-05-16 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi, On 05/16/12 15:07, Kay Schenk wrote: On 05/16/2012 11:48 AM, � wrote: Dear Confused, My reply is long; short answer: Porting evolved, and there were those builds maintained by Sun for its clients and then there were those initiated and maintained by the community. Over time, the roster o

Re: AO 3.4: Java Extension and HeadlessException

2012-05-15 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 05/15/12 07:23, Roberto Resoli wrote: 2012/5/15 Pedro Giffuni: Hello, ... what is used of Tomcat for inside AOO? Do you mean the entire Tomcat API or the Servlet part only? I tried to find some info about this, having found Tomcat update notice inside AOO 3.4 release notes. Cold you point

Re: AO 3.4: Java Extension and HeadlessException

2012-05-15 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello, --- Mar 15/5/12, Roberto Resoli ha scritto: ... > 2012/5/14 Pedro Giffuni : > > Hello Andor; > > Hello Andor, Pedro > > > --- Lun 14/5/12, Andor E > ha scritto: > > ... > >> Data: Lunedì 14 maggio 2012, 08:35 > >> Hi, > >

Re: AO 3.4: Java Extension and HeadlessException

2012-05-14 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello Andor; --- Lun 14/5/12, Andor E ha scritto: ... > Data: Lunedì 14 maggio 2012, 08:35 > Hi, > I have just started to test AO 3.4 with our extension > (WollMux) and ran into trouble right at the start. One > part of our software is an external Swing GUI that > connects to OOo/AO via bootstrap

Re: manuals on OpenOffice

2012-05-13 Thread Pedro Giffuni
teer in Brazil for > the translation of > > manuals for Portuguese language (Brazil), I believe in > the same way these > > manuals (esttilos and formatting with some variations) > and even for > > creating these. > > 2012/5/13 Pedro Giffuni > >

Re: manuals on OpenOffice

2012-05-13 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello Raul; On 05/13/12 11:17, Raul Pacheco da Silva wrote: Good morning, I am a simple end user and fan of this software and am not very good thing in these licenses, and would assist the project with the translation of manuals as I did with the LO, manuals found on this page of the wiki: http

Re: [Heads up][code] Apache Lucene updated to version 2.9.4

2012-05-13 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 05/13/12 08:57, Rob Weir wrote: ... Whew! I thought I was the only non-perfect person here ;-) :) But seriously, no large development effort can ever rely on perfect (or near-perfect) developers. That approach doesn't scale. We need to rely on an overall process that can efficiently fi

Re: [Heads up][code] Apache Lucene updated to version 2.9.4

2012-05-13 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 05/13/12 09:10, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hi Pedro, On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 08:24:00PM -0500, Pedro Giffuni wrote: To respond your points, which are perfectly reasonable, in the case of these last two big changes: 1) The code builds on FreeBSD-amd64, which is my dev. platform. 2) The

Re: [Heads up][code] Apache Lucene updated to version 2.9.4

2012-05-12 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Ariel; On 05/12/12 16:10, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hi Pedro, ... IMO when updating external dependencies, the tests should not only include the fact that it can be built on all the platforms we support, but mainly regressions tests that test if the functionality of the code that dependes

[Heads up][code] Apache Lucene updated to version 2.9.4

2012-05-12 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello; Revision 1337602 updates Apache Lucene to version 2.9.4. It's the last update for Apache based packages that I have planned. It also brings in a patch so that more modern versions can be used as external libraries. The change is rather big and I have a lot of unrelated patches in my build

R: 答复: 答复: about dmake question

2012-05-11 Thread Pedro Giffuni
e to the content. > > My question is  Under $SRC_ROOT Directory,  dmake > is compiled which file . > > > -邮件原件- > 发件人: Pedro Giffuni [mailto:p...@apache.org] > 发送时间: 2012年5月12日 11:06 > 收件人: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; > jianlizhao > 主题: R: 答复: abo

R: 答复: about dmake question

2012-05-11 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello Jianlizhao, --- Ven 11/5/12, jianlizhao ha scritto: > Hi Pedro, > I'm sorry, I did not describe my question clearly. > Re-description as follows: >  > When we entered the dmake, > dmake is compiled which file . >  It depends on the description in makefile.mk. For example: writerfilter/so

R: about dmake question

2012-05-11 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; Hi Jianlizhao, --- Ven 11/5/12, laser laser ha scritto: > > hello  Pedro Giffuni > Thank you for your reply. > I would also like to know, > Build OOo we are using dmake, which file is damke calls the > first file? I don't understand well what you mean by firs

Re: Another special Thanks for the Apache infra structure team

2012-05-11 Thread Pedro Giffuni
+1 Of course !! Pedro. On 05/10/12 10:26, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, before we (the AOO project) move on with future work (and we have a lot in front of us) I would nevertheless send a big THANK YOU to the infra structure team. The infra team had a lot of extra work with our project becaus

Re: about dmake question

2012-05-11 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 05/11/12 19:38, laser laser wrote: > Build OOo we are using dmake, which file is damke calls the first file? > The dmake compiler uses what parameters, How are these parameters passed to > damke. > > > jianlizhao Hi; There is a legacy homepage for dmak

Re: [WWW] AOOo french website

2012-05-11 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Ven 11/5/12, Hagar Delest ha scritto: ... > Le ven. 11 mai 2012 20:06:45 CEST, FR > web forum > a écrit : > > >> Do you see them mentionned on the banneer ? > >> LINK  : http://user.services.openoffice.org/fr/forum/ > > And what so? This is not a fact. > > We have mentioned only the main p

Re: Build broken at SVX ?

2012-05-11 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 05/11/12 03:11, Armin wrote: Hi Pedro, xbitmap.hxx is gone, you have old dependencies. use 'make clean' in svx and be sure to build incompatible from svx. Sincerely, Armin Thanks, I will start a new (clean) build Pedro.

Re: hsqldb19: Updating HyperSQL

2012-05-10 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Drew; On 05/10/12 16:35, drew jensen wrote: On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 16:24 -0500, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hi guys; For 4.0 we have a task without owner to bring in the hsqldb CWS. I would like to help in that but I am not good at using Hg and there appears to be some sort of a mess ... Looking

Build broken at SVX ?

2012-05-10 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Doesn't look like one of my changes ;) gmake: *** No rule to make target `/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-3-devel/work/ooo/main/svx/inc/svx/xbitmap.hxx', needed by `/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-3-devel/work/ooo/main/solver/340/unxfbsdx.pro/workdir/CxxObject/svx/source/engine3d/obj3d.o'.

hsqldb19: Updating HyperSQL

2012-05-10 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi guys; For 4.0 we have a task without owner to bring in the hsqldb CWS. I would like to help in that but I am not good at using Hg and there appears to be some sort of a mess ... Looking at the web interface: http://hg.services.openoffice.org/cws/hsqldb19/ It would appear like there is only

Re: Introduction

2012-05-09 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 05/09/12 12:47, Giuseppe Castagno wrote: Ciao Pedro, sorry for the delay but I first had to build AOO, just to be re-acquainted with it No problem ... I've been rather busy on other stuff too :). On 05/01/2012 04:32 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: ... I have a wishlist for that m

Re: Special Thanks to Andrew Rist

2012-05-09 Thread Pedro Giffuni
+1000 We wouldn't have made it without Andrew! On 05/09/12 11:46, Rob Weir wrote: As we celebrate the release of Apache OpenOffice 3.4, I want to just take moment to recognize one project member who has been very busy, but also very quiet. The transition from Oracle to Apache did not end with O

Re: Help updating Apache Commons

2012-05-08 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi again; There are other, more interesting, matters that I want to work on so I moved this to BZ 119319. I may come back to it later but perhaps having more eyes looking for the issue helps ;). Best regards, Pedro. On 05/07/12 22:11, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hello; I have a patch to update

Re: [WWW] OOO-Site Publishing Blackout

2012-05-07 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello ... --- Lun 7/5/12, Fernando Cassia ha scritto: > > > > We'll need an ooo-site publishing blackout until the > release is announced. > > > When is the release expected to happen?. > Shortly after the blackout ;). Pedro.

Help updating Apache Commons

2012-05-07 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello; I have a patch to update Apache Commons to the latest versions that don't break the API. I also included a patch for some openjdk issue in httpclient. Unfortunately the build system is playing some tricks on me and it breaks like this: _ ... Buildfile: /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-3

Re: System or bundled: Which font is used?

2012-05-05 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Sab 5/5/12, RGB ES ha scritto: ... > AOO installs several fonts but not > system wide, it install those fonts > on /opt/openoffice.org/basis3.4/share/fonts/truetype/ > > Some of those font (DejaVu family, Gentium Basic) are > already installed on my system so the question is: > which fonts u

Re: Propose testlink

2012-05-04 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello; --- Ven 4/5/12, Raphael Bircher ha scritto: > Hi Ji Yan > > You can upload the VM samewhere? so asfinfra people can have > a look on it. But you have to install the same at the ASF > Infrastructure again, because infra setup only clean VM's. > Join the IRC-Channel #asfinfra and > subscri

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1

2012-05-02 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 05/02/12 00:46, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: The vote period for releasing Apache OpenOffice (incubator) RC1 has concluded. The ballot passed. VOTE TALLY +1: IPMC members: +1 Marvin Humphrey +1 Dave Fisher +1 Jim Jagielski For reference see also the vote thread on ooo-dev http://mail-archive

Re: Legal question about (re)licensing

2012-05-02 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 05/01/12 23:58, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: I think you are just trying to find some silly excuse to complain about code that *you* clearly didn't write or own. All the code either from version control or bugzilla was provided by O

Re: Legal question about (re)licensing

2012-05-01 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 05/01/12 21:42, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: On 05/01/12 12:20, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: ... For larger contributions, an ICLA (or an SGA) is in order. Ditto for smaller ones, if there are questions/concerns. Remember, any committer can

Re: CWS licensing query ...

2012-05-01 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 05/01/12 12:07, Michael Meeks wrote: ... or something - though, clearly there are prolly some interesting new files there too - which would fall foul of the list in the SGA I guess. Anyhow - most interested in the status of those. Of course we don't "release" CWSs at all, those

Re: Legal question about (re)licensing

2012-05-01 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Michael, Michael ... On 05/01/12 11:38, Michael Meeks wrote: Hi Rob, So what exactly LO has is "license soup" as far as I am concerned. The situation is reasonably simple currently; yet it is of course made un-necessarily difficult by IBM& Oracle's insistence on choosing yet ano

Re: Legal question about (re)licensing

2012-05-01 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 05/01/12 12:20, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: ... For larger contributions, an ICLA (or an SGA) is in order. Ditto for smaller ones, if there are questions/concerns. Remember, any committer can veto a patch. So incoming patches without an ICLA need to meet a high bar to get into the code. My de

Re: Introduction

2012-05-01 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Benvenuto Giuseppe! On 05/01/12 06:25, Giuseppe Castagno wrote: Hi there, a few words to introduce myself. My name is Giuseppe Castagno, I live in very small town near Turin, Italy. I'm 56 years old and I work as a free-lance programmer. I participated in OpenOffice.org, there I was known a

ooo-site/license .. getting rid of the references to category-x.

2012-04-30 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello; Checking the licenses in the website: http://www.openoffice.org/licenses/ I will be getting rid of the GPL and LGPL. I will leave some old stuff (OCA, SCA, PDL) just for reference. ~/Documents/ooo-licenses% svn status D gpl_license.html D lgpl_license.html D newlicense20

Re: After AOO 3.4?

2012-04-30 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 04/29/12 23:55, Juergen Schmidt wrote: ... I think it all depends on how fast we plan to release 4.0. It looks likely that merging Symophony may be easy for the IBM guys, since symphony already updated theit base OOo, so a release may be fast and the 3.x branch may be short lived. (I don't k

Re: Legal question about (re)licensing

2012-04-29 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Claudio; First of all the mandatory disclaimer that I am not a lawyer either :-). ... --- Dom 29/4/12, Claudio Filho ha scritto: ... > Hi > > I am not a lawer but i did a work of licenses some time > ago[1], and i read many of main licenses, and a thing > that i listened in all was that on

Re: After AOO 3.4?

2012-04-29 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Sab 28/4/12, Rob Weir ha scritto: ... > > > > All in all, I think we should focus on stability and > > not on features. > > > What I am meaning here is that our users should not expect false promises like adding an "import Visio documents feature" that simply doesn't work. Of course feat

Re: After AOO 3.4?

2012-04-29 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Sab 28/4/12, Dave Fisher ha scritto: ... > > > > We also have to update some components. Anything with > > an Apache tag on it, like Apache Commons or Apache Lucene > > comes first because working with other Apache projects > > is key for our graduation. > > The amount of "Apache" product

Re: After AOO 3.4?

2012-04-28 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello; On 04/28/12 11:32, Rob Weir wrote: I'm already starting to get questions on what we'll be doing after AOO 3.4 is released. Based on previous conversations on this list, I'm able to speak confidently about a few things: 1) We'll probably graduate to a Top Level Project 2) IBM says they

RE: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1

2012-04-21 Thread Pedro Giffuni
+1 (PPMC) I think in it's current state the code has the level required to be considered the qualified successor of OpenOffice.org. Considering the size of the task I want to congratulate our developers and the Apache infra team for working so hard to make this wonderful release in such a short t

R: Python in Windows version of Apache OpenOffice

2012-04-21 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Yakov; --- Sab 21/4/12, Yakov Reztsov ha scritto: ... > I review Apache OpenOffice 3.4 > (incubating) release candidate 1 (RC1) is based on the svn > revision 1327774 (Windows version) > > Python operator license()  type Apache license in this > version. > I am not sure I understand but

Re: Mirroring both OOo and AOOo Fwd: [Daniel Shahaf: Opt-out from mirroring resource-intensive projects]

2012-04-20 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Dave; --- Ven 20/4/12, Dave Fisher ha scritto: ... > > On Apr 20, 2012, at 10:14 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > > Pedro Giffuni wrote on Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 07:41:19 > -0700: ... > >> > >> We are specifically warning people that the older > >>

Re: Mirroring both OOo and AOOo Fwd: [Daniel Shahaf: Opt-out from mirroring resource-intensive projects]

2012-04-20 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello; --- Ven 20/4/12, Daniel Shahaf ha scritto: ... > OOo PPMC: > > Several mirror operators have asked whether they are > expected to carry > both their preexisting/legacy OOo mirrors and the AOOo > mirror. > > We're assuming the legacy OOo mirrors can be dropped once an > AOOo > release is

R: [RELEASE][CODE]: please don't check in anything at the moment that is not release relevant

2012-04-16 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Lun 16/4/12, Jürgen Schmidt ha scritto: ... > > I am uncertain about the changes relating the icon sets. I > would prefer if we revert the last changes because I don't > see them as critical, at least when they cause a build > breaker. > I am running the code of course, and the icons can be

Re: buildbot exception in ASF Buildbot on aoo-win7

2012-04-16 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Lun 16/4/12, Andrew Rist ha scritto: ... > > > > Can someone with access to the Buildbot have a look? > > The exception with the upload is fixed (the multiple > versioning of the exe files also) > There is still an issue with the build - both win and > linux64 are running into issues. > win

Re: Cannot select a different icon set

2012-04-16 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 04/16/12 05:06, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hi Pedro, On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:18:13AM -0500, Pedro Giffuni wrote: IMHO we shouldn't remove anything, on the contrary we should revert all changes: the list of icon styles is filled in the constructor of OfaViewTabPage. Ultimately

Re: buildbot exception in ASF Buildbot on aoo-win7

2012-04-15 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello; On 04/16/12 00:38, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, ... But the previous Buildbot also did not succeed. There occurs en exception on the "upload" step Thus, from my opinion it is still needed to have a look at the Buildbot. Best regards, Oliver. Well, the FreeBSD buildbot did detec

Re: buildbot exception in ASF Buildbot on aoo-win7

2012-04-15 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; It was likely a missing commit that is solved by Revision 1326484. Sorry, Pedro. --- Lun 16/4/12, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann ha scritto: > Da: Oliver-Rainer Wittmann > Oggetto: Re: buildbot exception in ASF Buildbot on aoo-win7 > A: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > Data: Lunedì 16 Aprile 2012

Re: Cannot select a different icon set

2012-04-15 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 04/15/12 23:08, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hi Pedro, On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 09:47:30PM -0500, Pedro Giffuni wrote: On 04/15/12 21:06, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: ... I committed the fix (I had a blackout between the commit and the moment I did the followup on BZ). Hope you don't

Re: Cannot select a different icon set

2012-04-15 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 04/15/12 21:06, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: ... I committed the fix (I had a blackout between the commit and the moment I did the followup on BZ). Hope you don't mind As far as you built and tested the fix before committing it, I don't mind :) Actually .. the fix that I committed (removin

Re: Cannot select a different icon set

2012-04-15 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 04/15/12 13:33, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hi Andrea, On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:59:29AM +0200, Andrea Pescetti wrote: While trying to verify if an old problem (i.e., Crystal still listed in the icon sets, see http://s.apache.org/eI ) was still around - and honestly I expected it was, beca

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution?

2012-04-12 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Gio 12/4/12, drew ha scritto: ... > > > > Because we just have no basis for rejecting mirrors. > > Sure we do, groups; particularly non-profits turn down > offers from commercial operators all the time. Lets be > clear the SF offer is not all about contributing to > the project it is also t

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution?

2012-04-12 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Drew; --- Gio 12/4/12, drew ha scritto: > On Thu, 2012-04-12 at 21:09 -0500, > Pedro Giffuni wrote: > > Peter; > > > > it's really amazing to see level of support and general > > service that mirrorbrain has provided historically for > > OpenOffice.

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution?

2012-04-12 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Peter; it's really amazing to see level of support and general service that mirrorbrain has provided historically for OpenOffice. We haven't said no to mirrorbrain but you do understand that we just couldn't turn down the extra support offered by sourceforge. Everyone that offers to help is alway

RC vs. Release ( was Re: [RELEASE]: showstopper Bug 119215 )

2012-04-12 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Just wondering how the eelease process will be ... Will people have to vote twice ... one for the RC and again for the Release? Or is there a RC and then the vote so that it becomes the Release? I don't care about the RC so what will define when we really have a Release? cheers, Pedro. --- Gi

Re: Sal Shadow API on Solaris

2012-04-11 Thread Pedro Giffuni
ity.c : #include "system.h" #include cheers, Pedro. On 02.04.2012, at 17:32, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hmm... this sounds wrong:for Solaris you should be including sal/osl/unx/system.hnot the OS2 header. Pedro. --- Lun 2/4/12, Jean-Louis 'Hans' Fuchs ha scritto:

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