Re: [DISCUSS] RE: SVN and bringing the total end-to-end OOo project under Configuration Management

2011-08-30 Thread Raphael Bircher
Hi Rob Am 30.08.11 20:52, schrieb Rob Weir: On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: Hi Rob So you want to split the community into a official apache and a inofficial extendet community? That will happend if you will fellow strictly the apache way. Then we will have the Develop

Re: [DISCUSS] RE: SVN and bringing the total end-to-end OOo project under Configuration Management

2011-08-30 Thread Rob Weir
is always the ability to submit a >> proposal to the PPMC.  They could also make their own incubation >> proposal to Apache.  Since Apache, not this project, owns the >> trademark, logo and domain name, Apache could then mediate access to >> these assets among the Apache projects that request them.  That i

Re: [DISCUSS] RE: SVN and bringing the total end-to-end OOo project under Configuration Management

2011-08-30 Thread Raphael Bircher
with material that is not so pure. Another way to look at it is a web-site/-service version of an Apache Extra, visible to the world on a non-Apache domain name. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 14:33 To: ooo-dev@incu

Re: [DISCUSS] RE: SVN and bringing the total end-to-end OOo project under Configuration Management

2011-08-30 Thread Terry Ellison
.org URI. Am I getting warmer? Quite. Regards, Dave - Dennis -Original Message- From: Terry Ellison [mailto:te...@ellisons.org.uk] Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 18:13 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Dennis E. Hamilton Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] RE: SVN and bringing the total end-to-en

Re: [DISCUSS] RE: SVN and bringing the total end-to-end OOo project under Configuration Management

2011-08-29 Thread Dave Fisher
nis > > > > -Original Message- > From: Terry Ellison [mailto:te...@ellisons.org.uk] > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 18:13 > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > Cc: Dennis E. Hamilton > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] RE: SVN and bringing the total end-to-end OOo proj

RE: [DISCUSS] RE: SVN and bringing the total end-to-end OOo project under Configuration Management

2011-08-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
1 18:13 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Dennis E. Hamilton Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] RE: SVN and bringing the total end-to-end OOo project under Configuration Management Dennis, I just want to emphasise one of the key points that I made in my original post and which seems to have got lost in

Re: [DISCUSS] RE: SVN and bringing the total end-to-end OOo project under Configuration Management

2011-08-29 Thread Terry Ellison
Dennis, I just want to emphasise one of the key points that I made in my original post and which seems to have got lost in the subsequent dialogue. I differentiated between the "application" -- that is the S/W configuration based on the customisation of a FLOSS package -- which supports a se

Re: [DISCUSS] RE: SVN and bringing the total end-to-end OOo project under Configuration Management

2011-08-29 Thread Andy Brown
Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Andy Brown wrote: Rob Weir wrote: Much clipped to save space. Look at http://www.oooforum.org They get tons of traffic though they are independent of the OOo and get no advantage from the URL or any official relationship to the project. I

Re: [DISCUSS] RE: SVN and bringing the total end-to-end OOo project under Configuration Management

2011-08-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Andy Brown wrote: > Rob Weir wrote: > > > Much clipped to save space. >> >> Look at http://www.oooforum.org  They get tons of traffic though they >> are independent of the OOo and get no advantage from the URL or any >> official relationship to the project. >> > >

RE: [DISCUSS] RE: SVN and bringing the total end-to-end OOo project under Configuration Management

2011-08-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
gust 29, 2011 16:55 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] RE: SVN and bringing the total end-to-end OOo project under Configuration Management On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Rob, I completely disagree with embracing everything under ALv2 and exclusive &g

Re: [DISCUSS] RE: SVN and bringing the total end-to-end OOo project under Configuration Management

2011-08-29 Thread Andy Brown
Rob Weir wrote: Much clipped to save space. Look at http://www.oooforum.org They get tons of traffic though they are independent of the OOo and get no advantage from the URL or any official relationship to the project. If you look on the support page at OOo you will find the oooforum liste

Re: [DISCUSS] RE: SVN and bringing the total end-to-end OOo project under Configuration Management

2011-08-29 Thread Rob Weir
project SVN with material that is > not so pure. > > Another way to look at it is a web-site/-service version of an Apache Extra, > visible to the world on a non-Apache domain name. > >  - Dennis > > > > > > -----Original Message- > From: Rob Weir [mai

RE: [DISCUSS] RE: SVN and bringing the total end-to-end OOo project under Configuration Management

2011-08-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 14:33 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] RE: SVN and bringing the total end-to-end OOo project under Configuration Management On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > I've been mulling this over and I am wondering ab

Re: [DISCUSS] RE: SVN and bringing the total end-to-end OOo project under Configuration Management

2011-08-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > I've been mulling this over and I am wondering about another way to look at > the problem, building on Eike's suggestion too. > > This is not a proposal.  It is too high-level and not concrete enough with a > viable roadmap.  We need t

[DISCUSS] RE: SVN and bringing the total end-to-end OOo project under Configuration Management

2011-08-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I've been mulling this over and I am wondering about another way to look at the problem, building on Eike's suggestion too. This is not a proposal. It is too high-level and not concrete enough with a viable roadmap. We need to see if we can find a consensus in principle and then see what kind