Re: Clarification on treatment of weak copyleft components

2011-10-23 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 10:41 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: snip Now, for our SVN, we need to host the actual source of the MPL components,

Re: Clarification on treatment of weak copyleft components

2011-10-23 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 10:41 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org

Re: Clarification on treatment of weak copyleft components

2011-10-23 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: snip There is no intent to hoard.  From talking to developers on this project I get the sense that they want to upstream patches more than was done previously.  But contributing a patch is no guarantee that it will be

Re: Clarification on treatment of weak copyleft components

2011-10-23 Thread Michael Stahl
On 20.10.2011 23:27, Sam Ruby wrote: On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Now, for our SVN, we need to host the actual source of the MPL components, since we need to build the binaries on the platforms that we support. And in several cases we have patches the

Re: [licensing] On Apache Releases [WAS Re: Clarification on treatment of weak copyleft components]

2011-10-20 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin snip At Apache, a source release is (just) what's in version control when the release is cut, is canonical and mandatory. Other artifacts follow the binary release

Re: Clarification on treatment of weak copyleft components

2011-10-20 Thread Sam Ruby
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: One last question, based on OpenOffice 3rd party dependencies. We have a good number of MPL dependencies.  I'm trying, with some difficulty, to interpret what we can do based on the description here:

Re: Clarification on treatment of weak copyleft components

2011-10-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: One last question, based on OpenOffice 3rd party dependencies. We have a good number of MPL dependencies.  I'm trying, with some difficulty, to

Re: Clarification on treatment of weak copyleft components

2011-10-20 Thread Donald Whytock
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: There is no intent to hoard.  From talking to developers on this project I get the sense that they want to upstream patches more than was done previously.  But contributing a patch is no guarantee that it will be integrated by

Re: Clarification on treatment of weak copyleft components

2011-10-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: There is no intent to hoard.  From talking to developers on this project I get the sense that they want to upstream patches more than was done

RE: Clarification on treatment of weak copyleft components

2011-10-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
. -Original Message- From: sa3r...@gmail.com [mailto:sa3r...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Sam Ruby Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 14:27 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: legal-disc...@apache.org Subject: Re: Clarification on treatment of weak copyleft components [ ... ] Now, for our SVN, we

Re: Clarification on treatment of weak copyleft components

2011-10-20 Thread Rob Weir
on treatment of weak copyleft components [ ... ] Now, for our SVN, we need to host the actual source of the MPL components, since we need to build the binaries on the platforms that we support.  And in several cases we have patches the original source.  Is this a problem? That normally is highly

RE: Clarification on treatment of weak copyleft components

2011-10-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
...@apache.org; ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: Clarification on treatment of weak copyleft components I want to point out another case that I have seen in practice, including in the construction and deployment of binary releases for OpenOffice.org. This discussion may impinge

RE: Clarification on treatment of weak copyleft components

2011-10-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Subject: Re: Clarification on treatment of weak copyleft components [ ... ] Now, for our SVN, we need to host the actual source of the MPL components, since we need to build the binaries on the platforms that we support. And in several cases we have patches the original source

Re: Clarification on treatment of weak copyleft components

2011-10-20 Thread Rob Weir
Subject: Re: Clarification on treatment of weak copyleft components [ ... ] Now, for our SVN, we need to host the actual source of the MPL components, since we need to build the binaries on the platforms that we support.  And in several cases we have patches the original source