Re: [BUILD] EPM for building packages - was [BUG] AOO cannot be installed

2012-01-05 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
and repeatable, then they are ready for deploy as a buildbot. I am wary of steps that include building and deploying patched software outside of this process. EPM is currently in this category. What is our best solution for EPM? 1. find a dependency that can be repeatably loaded

Re: [BUILD] EPM for building packages - was [BUG] AOO cannot be installed

2012-01-04 Thread Andrew Rist
, then they are ready for deploy as a buildbot. I am wary of steps that include building and deploying patched software outside of this process. EPM is currently in this category. What is our best solution for EPM? 1. find a dependency that can be repeatably loaded in the dependencies list 2. create

Re: [BUILD] I miss epm

2011-12-13 Thread Raphael Bircher
Am 13.12.11 08:14, schrieb Ariel Constenla-Haile: Hi Raphael, On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 07:41:15AM +0100, Raphael Bircher wrote: Hi at all I beleve I miss same information. My configure says: configure: error: no. Install ESP Package Manager (www.easysw.com/epm) and/or specify the path

Re: [BUILD] I miss epm

2011-12-13 Thread Raphael Bircher
(www.easysw.com/epm) and/or specify the path to the right epm I was installing a EPM over MacPorts, and point it --with-epm, but it does not work. Can sameone help me. not sure if it will work for you, but I downloaded EPM 3.7 from http://www.epmhome.org/software.php The problem is, I can't realy

Re: [BUILD] I miss epm

2011-12-13 Thread Raphael Bircher
: error: no. Install ESP Package Manager (www.easysw.com/epm) and/or specify the path to the right epm I was installing a EPM over MacPorts, and point it --with-epm, but it does not work. Can sameone help me. not sure if it will work for you, but I downloaded EPM 3.7 from http://www.epmhome.org

Re: [BUILD] I miss epm

2011-12-13 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
: error: no. Install ESP Package Manager (www.easysw.com/epm) and/or specify the path to the right epm I was installing a EPM over MacPorts, and point it --with-epm, but it does not work. Can sameone help me. not sure if it will work for you, but I downloaded EPM 3.7 from http://www.epmhome.org

[BUILD] I miss epm

2011-12-12 Thread Raphael Bircher
Hi at all I beleve I miss same information. My configure says: configure: error: no. Install ESP Package Manager (www.easysw.com/epm) and/or specify the path to the right epm I was installing a EPM over MacPorts, and point it --with-epm, but it does not work. Can sameone help me

Re: [BUILD] I miss epm

2011-12-12 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Raphael, On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 07:41:15AM +0100, Raphael Bircher wrote: Hi at all I beleve I miss same information. My configure says: configure: error: no. Install ESP Package Manager (www.easysw.com/epm) and/or specify the path to the right epm I was installing a EPM over

Re: [CODE]: 118605 remove epm?

2011-11-23 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 11/22/11 11:18 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:25:43PM +0100, Michael Stahl wrote: On 22.11.2011 11:57, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: I stumbled over problems using a downloaded epm 4.2 (http://www.epmhome.org), build and install it on a Fedora 16 system (rpm based

Re: [CODE]: 118605 remove epm?

2011-11-23 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
-Haile wrote: On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:25:43PM +0100, Michael Stahl wrote: On 22.11.2011 11:57, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: I stumbled over problems using a downloaded epm 4.2 (http://www.epmhome.org), build and install it on a Fedora 16 system (rpm based). The epm call failed to build the rpm

Re: [CODE]: 118605 remove epm?

2011-11-23 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
the hint with rpmbuild was good, it seems that my built epm (no special configure switches) haven't found rpmbuild during the configure step and switched back to rpm. I will check this but i assume i will run in the same problems as Ariel then. Juergen On 11/23/11 1:58 PM, Jürgen Schmidt

Re: [CODE]: 118605 remove epm?

2011-11-23 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Jürgen, On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 02:10:38PM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: the hint with rpmbuild was good, it seems that my built epm (no special configure switches) haven't found rpmbuild during the configure step and switched back to rpm. I will check this but i assume i will run

Re: [CODE]: 118605 remove epm?

2011-11-23 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 11/23/11 2:47 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hi Jürgen, On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 02:10:38PM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: the hint with rpmbuild was good, it seems that my built epm (no special configure switches) haven't found rpmbuild during the configure step and switched back to rpm. I

Re: [CODE]: 118605 remove epm?

2011-11-22 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
Hi, i would like to gave a short update. I stumbled over problems using a downloaded epm 4.2 (http://www.epmhome.org), build and install it on a Fedora 16 system (rpm based). The epm call failed to build the rpm packages. It seems that epm triggers /bin/rpm with some parameters

Re: [CODE]: 118605 remove epm?

2011-11-22 Thread eric b
Le 22 nov. 11 à 11:57, Jürgen Schmidt a écrit : Hi, Hi, i would like to gave a short update. I stumbled over problems using a downloaded epm 4.2 (http:// www.epmhome.org), build and install it on a Fedora 16 system (rpm based). The epm call failed to build the rpm packages

Re: [CODE]: 118605 remove epm?

2011-11-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hmmm ... Nevermind, OpenPKG is rather bulky. Unfortunately portable packagers seem not to be too common anymore. Pedro. --- On Tue, 11/22/11, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: From: Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org Subject: Re: [CODE]: 118605 remove epm? To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org

Re: [CODE]: 118605 remove epm?

2011-11-22 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
possible to use a system epm. Sometimes things become easier over time or even obsolete. But in this case it seems that we have to stick with the 3.7 epm and the patches we have because they are very specific for OOo. I hope that we can simplify this packaging process in the future a little bit

Re: [CODE]: 118605 remove epm?

2011-11-22 Thread eric b
process better. I thought it was worse to check if it's possible to use a system epm. Sometimes things become easier over time or even obsolete. But in this case it seems that we have to stick with the 3.7 epm and the patches we have because they are very specific for OOo. I don't think so

Re: [CODE]: 118605 remove epm?

2011-11-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
seem not to be too common anymore. the point is simply that we have to understand the whole packaging process better. I thought it was worse to check if it's possible to use a system epm. Sometimes things become easier over time or even obsolete. But in this case it seems that we have

Re: [CODE]: 118605 remove epm?

2011-11-22 Thread Michael Stahl
On 22.11.2011 11:57, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: I stumbled over problems using a downloaded epm 4.2 (http://www.epmhome.org), build and install it on a Fedora 16 system (rpm based). The epm call failed to build the rpm packages. It seems that epm triggers /bin/rpm with some parameters

Re: [CODE]: 118605 remove epm?

2011-11-22 Thread eric b
Hi Michael, Le 22 nov. 11 à 22:25, Michael Stahl a écrit : On 22.11.2011 11:57, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: I stumbled over problems using a downloaded epm 4.2 (http:// www.epmhome.org), build and install it on a Fedora 16 system (rpm based). The epm call failed to build the rpm packages

Re: [CODE]: 118605 remove epm?

2011-11-22 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:25:43PM +0100, Michael Stahl wrote: On 22.11.2011 11:57, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: I stumbled over problems using a downloaded epm 4.2 (http://www.epmhome.org), build and install it on a Fedora 16 system (rpm based). The epm call failed to build the rpm

Re: agg and epm are still in svn repo.

2011-11-16 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
@ noticed that agg and epm are still in svn repo. is it correct? Should we remove them? epm is needed to build deb and rpm packages for Linux (at least, didn't try BSD, etc). Now that copy-left is disabled by default, I'm building with --with-epm=/home/ariel/bin/epm --with-package-format=installed rpm

Re: [CODE]: 118605 remove epm?

2011-11-16 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 11/15/11 5:00 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, i am currently trying to build with a system available epm tool. And i am right now building on a Ubuntu 11.10 with epm 4.2. Does anybody have built with a system epm on a Linux system? a short update on this topic. I was able to build an office

[CODE]: 118605 remove epm?

2011-11-15 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
Hi, i am currently trying to build with a system available epm tool. And i am right now building on a Ubuntu 11.10 with epm 4.2. Does anybody have built with a system epm on a Linux system? Juergen 

Re: agg and epm are still in svn repo.

2011-11-15 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 11/10/11 6:03 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hello Maho, On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 09:47:23AM +0900, Maho NAKATA wrote: Hi, while porting AOOo to FreeBSD, pgf@ noticed that agg and epm are still in svn repo. is it correct? Should we remove them? epm is needed to build deb and rpm packages

Re: agg and epm are still in svn repo.

2011-11-15 Thread Pedro Giffuni
FWIW, The problem we are seeing in FreeBSD is a bit weird, and I think it has to do with the build environment (AKA ports tree). When built inside the ports tree, EPM and agg get built. We are not not turning them on, they just build. There are other issues: FreeBSD's gbuild stuff

Re: agg and epm are still in svn repo.

2011-11-15 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 11/15/11 5:03 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 11/10/11 6:03 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hello Maho, On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 09:47:23AM +0900, Maho NAKATA wrote: Hi, while porting AOOo to FreeBSD, pgf@ noticed that agg and epm are still in svn repo. is it correct? Should we remove them

Re: agg and epm are still in svn repo.

2011-11-15 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Jürgen, On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 05:03:37PM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 11/10/11 6:03 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hello Maho, On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 09:47:23AM +0900, Maho NAKATA wrote: Hi, while porting AOOo to FreeBSD, pgf@ noticed that agg and epm are still in svn repo

Re: agg and epm are still in svn repo.

2011-11-11 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 11/10/11 7:56 PM, Mathias Bauer wrote: Am 10.11.2011 16:52, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: ok, drop counterproductive but i still don't understand why you have checked in it at all. The update if necessary could have been done at a later time as well. You seem to misunderstand what Pedro did.

Re: agg and epm are still in svn repo.

2011-11-11 Thread Pedro Giffuni
No need to apologize, OOo (or AOO? ,looks like a tie from here), is a huge monster and it's difficult to keep up with all the changes that are in progress ! best regards, Pedro. --- On Fri, 11/11/11, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 11/10/11 7:56 PM, Mathias Bauer wrote: Am 10.11.2011 16:52,

Re: agg and epm are still in svn repo.

2011-11-10 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
it would make sense if we follow all the same rules. Juergen I did notice it's still getting built on our port and I have to look at why. I think when I attempt to build AOOo from the tarball it doesn't get built but there are other ugly issues with icu there. About epm I don't know, I guess we

Re: agg and epm are still in svn repo.

2011-11-10 Thread Pedro Giffuni
but there are other ugly issues with icu there. About epm I don't know, I guess we can remove that directory now. Pedro. --- On Wed, 11/9/11, Maho NAKATAm...@apache.org  wrote: From: Maho NAKATAm...@apache.org Subject: agg and epm are still in svn repo. To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org

Re: agg and epm are still in svn repo.

2011-11-10 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
issues with icu there. About epm I don't know, I guess we can remove that directory now. Pedro. --- On Wed, 11/9/11, Maho NAKATAm...@apache.org wrote: From: Maho NAKATAm...@apache.org Subject: agg and epm are still in svn repo. To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: p...@apache.org Date: Wednesday

Re: agg and epm are still in svn repo.

2011-11-10 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Jürgen; --- On Thu, 11/10/11, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com wrote: my main concern here is why you haven't updated the tar file with a newer version and used the same mechanism as for all other 3rd party libs. There has never been any tarball for this. Maybe we should move

Re: agg and epm are still in svn repo.

2011-11-10 Thread Mathias Bauer
Am 10.11.2011 16:52, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: ok, drop counterproductive but i still don't understand why you have checked in it at all. The update if necessary could have been done at a later time as well. You seem to misunderstand what Pedro did. agg was always part of the source tree.

agg and epm are still in svn repo.

2011-11-09 Thread Maho NAKATA
Hi, while porting AOOo to FreeBSD, pgf@ noticed that agg and epm are still in svn repo. is it correct? Should we remove them? thanks Nakata Maho

Re: agg and epm are still in svn repo.

2011-11-09 Thread Pedro Giffuni
but there are other ugly issues with icu there. About epm I don't know, I guess we can remove that directory now. Pedro. --- On Wed, 11/9/11, Maho NAKATA m...@apache.org wrote: From: Maho NAKATA m...@apache.org Subject: agg and epm are still in svn repo. To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc

Re: agg and epm are still in svn repo.

2011-11-09 Thread Maho NAKATA
From: Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org Subject: Re: agg and epm are still in svn repo. Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 17:43:19 -0800 (PST) I personally didn't plan to remove agg. I like it as option and license wise it's OK so I have no pland to remove it, at least for now. I see. I did notice it's

Re: agg and epm are still in svn repo.

2011-11-09 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hello Maho, On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 09:47:23AM +0900, Maho NAKATA wrote: Hi, while porting AOOo to FreeBSD, pgf@ noticed that agg and epm are still in svn repo. is it correct? Should we remove them? epm is needed to build deb and rpm packages for Linux (at least, didn't try BSD, etc). Now

Re: agg and epm are still in svn repo.

2011-11-09 Thread eric b
Hi Maho, Le 10 nov. 11 à 01:47, Maho NAKATA a écrit : Hi, while porting AOOo to FreeBSD, pgf@ noticed that agg and epm are still in svn repo. is it correct? Should we remove them? If this can help, I know how to build Debian archives using dh_make (this is the true debian way

Re: EPM

2011-08-29 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:16:03 +0200, Mathias Bauer mathias_ba...@gmx.net wrote: Moin, ... I committed a patch that enables EPM as installed in the system. Of course that makes EPM a build requirement. Hmmm ... of course some of us don't use linux and create our own packages without EPM

Re: EPM

2011-08-29 Thread Mathias Bauer
On 29.08.2011 15:45, Pedro Giffuni wrote: On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:16:03 +0200, Mathias Bauer mathias_ba...@gmx.net wrote: Moin, ... I committed a patch that enables EPM as installed in the system. Of course that makes EPM a build requirement. Hmmm ... of course some of us don't use linux

Re: EPM

2011-08-29 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Mon, 8/29/11, Mathias Bauer mathias_ba...@gmx.net wrote: ... On Linux it always was needed in OOo, either from system or - in case BUILD_EPM=YES - from the ooo module epm. If you want to do it differently, send patches. :-) If I ever work on the build system, it will be very

Re: EPM

2011-08-29 Thread Mathias Bauer
Am 29.08.2011 17:50, schrieb Pedro F. Giffuni: --- On Mon, 8/29/11, Mathias Bauer mathias_ba...@gmx.net wrote: ... On Linux it always was needed in OOo, either from system or - in case BUILD_EPM=YES - from the ooo module epm. If you want to do it differently, send patches. :-) If I