RE: License implications of build-time or test-time dependencies?

2011-10-23 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Subject: Re: License implications of build-time or test-time dependencies? On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: Hmm ... We

Re: License implications of build-time or test-time dependencies?

2011-10-21 Thread Ian Lynch
On 21 October 2011 16:01, Herbert Dürr h...@apache.org wrote: On 2011/10/20 11:12 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Sam Rubyru...@intertwingly.net wrote: On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Pedro

Re: License implications of build-time or test-time dependencies?

2011-10-21 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 05:01:24PM +0200, Herbert Dürr wrote: The gtk/qt issue is rather critcal: I do not think there is previous history among Apache projects depending on them but if we cannot consider those system provided libraries it would be a serious setback to an early Apache release.

Re: License implications of build-time or test-time dependencies?

2011-10-21 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: Hmm ... We have discussed some of the things that must be replaced but we have not

[licensing] Re: License implications of build-time or test-time dependencies?

2011-10-20 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Another question that has come up based on review of OpenOffice code. If a 3rd party module is used as part of the build or test automation, but is not part of our release, do we care about whether it is copyleft?  Or do we

Re: License implications of build-time or test-time dependencies?

2011-10-20 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote:  One observation, before it slips through. Depending on gpl#39;d compilers and tools that we don#39;t carry in the release is fine AFAICT. In our bootstrap procedure we use Dmake (gplv1), which we must remove in favor of

Re: License implications of build-time or test-time dependencies?

2011-10-20 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hmm ... We have discussed some of the things that must be replaced but we have not drawn a roadmap about it beyond the initial migration list. I think we will have to open BZ issues for those. The gtk/qt issue is rather critcal: I do not think there is previous history among Apache projects

Re: License implications of build-time or test-time dependencies?

2011-10-20 Thread Sam Ruby
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: Hmm ... We have discussed some of the things that must be replaced but we have not drawn a roadmap about it beyond the initial migration list. I think we will have to open BZ issues for those. The gtk/qt issue is rather

Re: License implications of build-time or test-time dependencies?

2011-10-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: Hmm ... We have discussed some of the things that must be replaced but we have not drawn a roadmap about it beyond the initial migration list. I think

Re: License implications of build-time or test-time dependencies?

2011-10-20 Thread Sam Ruby
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: Hmm ... We have discussed some of the things that must be replaced but we have not

Re: License implications of build-time or test-time dependencies?

2011-10-18 Thread Pedro Giffuni
One observation, before it slips through. Depending on gpl#39;d compilers and tools that we don#39;t carry in the release is fine AFAICT. In our bootstrap procedure we use Dmake (gplv1), which we must remove in favor of the external package, just like other OpenOffice forks do. A more