Re: selling open office

2012-03-01 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Rob, Good questions. I'll play. You are seeking the boundary of what is permissible to be called AOO, powered by AOO and not permitted. Possible answers below: On Feb 29, 2012, at 8:48 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: FWIW; On

Re: selling open office

2012-02-29 Thread Ross Gardler
On 28 February 2012 20:01, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: There was talk of a Powered by AOO logo.  Maybe this should be propogated up to the foundation to have an Apache Inside logo? No, that is not how it (currently) works around here. Providing a foundation wide Apache inside logo

Re: selling open office

2012-02-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 4:34 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: On 28 February 2012 20:01, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: There was talk of a Powered by AOO logo.  Maybe this should be propogated up to the foundation to have an Apache Inside logo? No, that is not how

Powered by AOO (was Re: selling open office)

2012-02-29 Thread Ross Gardler
On 29 February 2012 12:54, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 4:34 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: On 28 February 2012 20:01, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: There was talk of a Powered by AOO logo.  Maybe this should be propogated up to the

Re: Powered by AOO (was Re: selling open office)

2012-02-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: On 29 February 2012 12:54, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 4:34 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: On 28 February 2012 20:01, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Powered by AOO (was Re: selling open office)

2012-02-29 Thread Dave Fisher
I agree with Ross that the Powered by Logo and Policy is needed. I won't have time to say more for a day or two, Regards, Dave On Feb 29, 2012, at 5:55 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: On 29 February 2012 13:48, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Ross Gardler

Re: selling open office

2012-02-29 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 2012-02-28 12:23 PM, flamin hotdog wrote: hi, i was wondering where you stand on people selling open office. i know of somebody who is selling open office on ebay for profit. thanks andy As other folks have commented, the Apache License is designed to be permissive, in that third parties

Re: selling open office

2012-02-29 Thread Pedro Giffuni
FWIW; On 02/29/12 07:54, Rob Weir wrote: I don't see how this would have helped with Team OOo. Surely, the logo issue was only a small part of the problem, a very small part. Even if we had a powered by logo, there would have been the other issues that were entirely irreconcilable with any

Re: selling open office

2012-02-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: FWIW; On 02/29/12 07:54, Rob Weir wrote: I don't see how this would have helped with Team OOo.  Surely, the logo issue was only a small part of the problem, a very small part. Even if we had a powered by logo, there

Re: selling open office

2012-02-29 Thread Raphael Bircher
Am 29.02.12 17:48, schrieb Rob Weir: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Pedro Giffunip...@apache.org wrote: FWIW; On 02/29/12 07:54, Rob Weir wrote: I don't see how this would have helped with Team OOo. Surely, the logo issue was only a small part of the problem, a very small part. Even if

Re: selling open office

2012-02-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Raphael Bircher rbircher_...@bluewin.ch wrote: Am 29.02.12 17:48, schrieb Rob Weir: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Pedro Giffunip...@apache.org  wrote: FWIW; On 02/29/12 07:54, Rob Weir wrote: I don't see how this would have helped with Team OOo.  

Re: selling open office

2012-02-29 Thread Phillip Rhodes
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: But the question is where do we draw the line? Agreed. At one pole, I think we all agree that released versions of AOO, approved by the PMC and made available on the Apache mirrors,are properly called Apache OpenOffice.

Re: selling open office

2012-02-29 Thread Wolf Halton
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote: On 2012-02-28 12:23 PM, flamin hotdog wrote: hi, i was wondering where you stand on people selling open office. i know of somebody who is selling open office on ebay for profit. thanks andy As other folks have

Re: selling open office

2012-02-29 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 02/29/12 11:48, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Pedro Giffunip...@apache.org wrote: FWIW; On 02/29/12 07:54, Rob Weir wrote: I don't see how this would have helped with Team OOo. Surely, the logo issue was only a small part of the problem, a very small part. Even if

selling open office

2012-02-28 Thread flamin hotdog
hi, i was wondering where you stand on people selling open office. i know of somebody who is selling open office on ebay for profit. thanks andy

Re: selling open office

2012-02-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:23 PM, flamin hotdog flamin_hot...@hotmail.com wrote: hi, i was wondering where you stand on people selling open office. i know of somebody who is selling open office on ebay for profit. thanks andy A similar question came up on the list last week. My response

Re: selling open office

2012-02-28 Thread Ross Gardler
wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:23 PM, flamin hotdog flamin_hot...@hotmail.com wrote: hi, i was wondering where you stand on people selling open office. i know of somebody who is selling open office on ebay for profit. thanks andy A similar question came up on the list last week. My response

Re: selling open office

2012-02-28 Thread Donald Whytock
stand on people selling open office. i know of somebody who is selling open office on ebay for profit. thanks andy A similar question came up on the list last week. My response is here: http://markmail.org/message/g6viii4ito6hhwim In summary, the open source license permits selling CD's

Re: selling open office

2012-02-28 Thread Rob Weir
...@hotmail.com wrote: hi, i was wondering where you stand on people selling open office. i know of somebody who is selling open office on ebay for profit. thanks andy A similar question came up on the list last week. My response is here: http://markmail.org/message/g6viii4ito6hhwim

Re: selling open office

2012-02-28 Thread Phillip Rhodes
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:23 PM, flamin hotdog flamin_hot...@hotmail.com wrote: hi, i was wondering where you stand on people selling open office. i know of somebody who is selling open office on ebay for profit. thanks andy Generally speaking, it's fine to take the code, compile

Re: selling open office

2012-02-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Phillip Rhodes motley.crue@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:23 PM, flamin hotdog flamin_hot...@hotmail.com wrote: hi, i was wondering where you stand on people selling open office. i know of somebody who is selling open office on ebay

Re: selling open office

2012-02-28 Thread Donald Whytock
Rhodes motley.crue@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:23 PM, flamin hotdog flamin_hot...@hotmail.com wrote: hi, i was wondering where you stand on people selling open office. i know of somebody who is selling open office on ebay for profit. thanks andy Generally speaking, it's